Authomatic - New Authorization / Authentication Client Package for Python WEB Applications

2013-05-15 Thread Peter Hudec
Hi there, I would like to introduce Authomatic, an authorization / authentication client library for Python WEB applications. project home: http://peterhudec.github.io/authomatic code: https://github.com/peterhudec/authomatic live demo: http://authomatic-example.appspot.com/ Features: *

Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError.

2013-05-15 Thread dieter
Mr. Joe titani...@gmail.com writes: ... Sorry for digging this old topic back. I see that my 'property' does not play well with polymorphic code comment generated some controversy. So here's something in my defense: I did not intend to attack you. ... Yes, I like decorators and

Re: PDF generator decision

2013-05-15 Thread dieter
Christian Jurk co...@commx.ws writes: ... So far I'd like to ask which is the (probably) best way to create PDFs in Python (3)? It is important for me that I am able to specify not only background graphics, paragaphs, tables and so on but also to specify page headers/footers. The reason

Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Henry Leyh
Hello, I am writing a program that gets its parameters from a combination of config file (using configparser) and command line arguments (using argparse). Now I would also like the program to be able to _write_ a configparser config file that contains only the parameters actually given on

RE: PDF generator decision

2013-05-15 Thread Carlos Nepomuceno
Christian, have you tried pod[1]? You can use create templates in OpenDocument format and then create the PDFs just passing the arguments, like: args = {'name':'John', 'email':'j...@example.com'} renderer = Renderer('template.odt', args, 'result.odt')renderer.run() [1]

Fractal

2013-05-15 Thread Sharon COUKA
Hello, I'm new to python and i have to make a Mandelbrot fractal image for school but I don't know how to zoom in my image. Thank you for helping me. Envoyé de mon iPad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:14 AM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: It costs $10K for a car which goes at around 80 kmph Now if I want to move at 800 kmph I need to switch from car to plane and that will cost me in millions And if I want to move at 8000 kmph I need to be in a rocket in outer

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Mark Janssen dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote: You're very right. But that is what has made it sort of a test-bed for internet collaboration. The project I'm working on is aimed to solve that problem and take the Wiki philosophy to its next or even ultimate

Python 2.7.x - problem with obejct.__init__() not accepting *args and **kwargs

2013-05-15 Thread wzab
I had to implement in Python 2.7.x a system which heavily relies on multiple inheritance. Working on that, I have came to very simplistic code which isolates the problem: (The essential thing is that each base class receives all arguments and uses only those, which it understands). class

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Colin J. Williams
On 15/05/2013 2:34 AM, Henry Leyh wrote: Hello, I am writing a program that gets its parameters from a combination of config file (using configparser) and command line arguments (using argparse). Now I would also like the program to be able to _write_ a configparser config file that contains

Re: Fractal

2013-05-15 Thread Colin J. Williams
On 13/05/2013 11:41 AM, Sharon COUKA wrote: Hello, I'm new to python and i have to make a Mandelbrot fractal image for school but I don't know how to zoom in my image. Thank you for helping me. Envoyé de mon iPad Google is your friend. Try Mandelbrot Python Colin W. --

Re: Python 2.7.x - problem with obejct.__init__() not accepting *args and **kwargs

2013-05-15 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 15 May 2013 12:18, wzab wza...@gmail.com wrote: I had to implement in Python 2.7.x a system which heavily relies on multiple inheritance. Working on that, I have came to very simplistic code which isolates the problem: (The essential thing is that each base class receives all arguments

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Roy Smith
In article kmva9j$1hbk$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: Is there a simple way to determine which command line arguments were actually given on the commandline, i.e. does argparse.ArgumentParser() know which of its namespace members were actually hit during

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Angel
On 05/15/2013 08:24 AM, Roy Smith wrote: In article kmva9j$1hbk$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: Is there a simple way to determine which command line arguments were actually given on the commandline, i.e. does argparse.ArgumentParser() know which of its

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Jussi Piitulainen
Colin J. Williams writes: On 15/05/2013 2:34 AM, Henry Leyh wrote: Hello, I am writing a program that gets its parameters from a combination of config file (using configparser) and command line arguments (using argparse). Now I would also like the program to be able to _write_ a

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Henry Leyh
On 15.05.2013 14:24, Roy Smith wrote: In article kmva9j$1hbk$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: Is there a simple way to determine which command line arguments were actually given on the commandline, i.e. does argparse.ArgumentParser() know which of its namespace

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 15 May 2013 13:52, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: On 15.05.2013 14:24, Roy Smith wrote: In article kmva9j$1hbk$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: Is there a simple way to determine which command line arguments were actually given on the commandline,

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant British humour includes double

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Henry Leyh
On 15.05.2013 15:00, Oscar Benjamin wrote: On 15 May 2013 13:52, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: On 15.05.2013 14:24, Roy Smith wrote: In article kmva9j$1hbk$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: Is there a simple way to determine which command line

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Skip Montanaro
Yes, I was trying that and it sort of works with strings if I use something sufficiently improbable like __UNSELECTED__ as default. But it gets difficult with boolean or even number arguments where you just may not have valid improbable defaults. You could now say, so what, it's the

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-15 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote: British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. It's sort of like when Bush said The French don't even have

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Wayne Werner
On Wed, 15 May 2013, Henry Leyh wrote: Yes, I was trying that and it sort of works with strings if I use something sufficiently improbable like __UNSELECTED__ as default. But it gets difficult with boolean or even number arguments where you just may not have valid improbable defaults. You

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-15 Thread MRAB
On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode

Re: Fractal

2013-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-05-13, Sharon COUKA sharon_co...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm new to python and i have to make a Mandelbrot fractal image for school but I don't know how to zoom in my image. Thank you for helping me. It's a fractal image, so you zoom in/out with the following Python instruction:

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Henry Leyh
On 15.05.2013 16:08, Skip Montanaro wrote: Yes, I was trying that and it sort of works with strings if I use something sufficiently improbable like __UNSELECTED__ as default. But it gets difficult with boolean or even number arguments where you just may not have valid improbable defaults.

Re: Fwd: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-05-14, Citizen Kant citizenk...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/5/14 Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info On Tue, 14 May 2013 01:32:43 +0200, Citizen Kant wrote: An entity named Python must be somehow as a serpent. Don't forget that I'm with the freeing up of my memory, now

Re: Differences of != operator behavior in python3 and python2 [ bug? ]

2013-05-15 Thread Alister
!= is explicit. There is no ambiguity that needs to be guessed. Which is why i said it thought X != Y is cleaner i guess i wasn't totally clear, I would write X != Y its because the OP preferred to use the other format I recommended that he made the operator ordering explicit. --

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Skip Montanaro
However, maybe I could ... ... switch to getopt? wink Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Fractal

2013-05-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Sharon COUKA sharon_co...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm new to python and i have to make a Mandelbrot fractal image for school but I don't know how to zoom in my image. Thank you for helping me. Is this a GUI application or does it just write the image to a

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Roy Smith
In article kn00fb$8kc$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: On 15.05.2013 14:24, Roy Smith wrote: In article kmva9j$1hbk$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: Is there a simple way to determine which command line arguments were actually given

Re: Python 2.7.x - problem with obejct.__init__() not accepting *args and **kwargs

2013-05-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Oscar Benjamin oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com wrote: I don't generally use super() but I did see some advice about it in this article: https://fuhm.net/super-harmful/ From the conclusion: Never use positional arguments in __init__ or __new__. Always use keyword

Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError.

2013-05-15 Thread Mr. Joe
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, dieter die...@handshake.de wrote: If Python would automatically redecorate overridden methods in a derived class, I would have no control over the process. What if I need the undecorated method or a differently decorated method (an uncached or

Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Andrew Bradley
Hello everyone. I am having a good time programming with Python 3.3 and Pygame. Pygame seems like the perfect platform for the kind of simple games that I want to make. What I have currently programmed is basically a drawn rectangle filled with 200 squares, each side of the squares being 43

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
- Original Message - On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-15 Thread MRAB
On 15/05/2013 18:04, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: - Original Message - On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem

Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams

2013-05-15 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-05-13, F?bio Santos fabiosantos...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2013 19:48, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: On 2013-05-13, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: 8. A programming language is low level when its programs require attention to the irrelevant. So much a matter of

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-15 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
- Original Message - On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote: British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. It's sort of like when

Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams

2013-05-15 Thread Fábio Santos
On 15 May 2013 18:29, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: On 2013-05-13, F?bio Santos fabiosantos...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2013 19:48, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: On 2013-05-13, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: 8. A programming language is low level when its

Re: Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Angel
On 05/15/2013 12:56 PM, Andrew Bradley wrote: Hello everyone. I am having a good time programming with Python 3.3 and Pygame. Pygame seems like the perfect platform for the kind of simple games that I want to make. Pygame indeed looks pretty good to me as well. But I haven't done anything

Re: Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Andrew Bradley abradley...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. I am having a good time programming with Python 3.3 and Pygame. Pygame seems like the perfect platform for the kind of simple games that I want to make. What I have currently programmed is basically

Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams

2013-05-15 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-05-15, F?bio Santos fabiosantos...@gmail.com wrote: It is a tautology is disguise. When you use a low level language, low level details are relevant to the scope of your program. I don't see it that way. I think relevance and level are two unrelated concepts. For example, in python

Re: ssl proxy server

2013-05-15 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: I haven't touched the SpamBayes setup for the usenet-to-mail gateway in a long while. For whatever reason, this message was either held and then approved by the current list moderator(s), or (more likely) slipped through

Re: ssl proxy server

2013-05-15 Thread Zachary Ware
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick kwpol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: I haven't touched the SpamBayes setup for the usenet-to-mail gateway in a long while. For whatever reason, this message was either held and

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-15 Thread Colin J. Williams
On 15/05/2013 1:21 PM, MRAB wrote: On 15/05/2013 18:04, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: - Original Message - On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a

Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Citizen Kant
On 2013-05-14, Citizen Kant citizenk...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/5/14 Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info On Tue, 14 May 2013 01:32:43 +0200, Citizen Kant wrote: An entity named Python must be somehow as a serpent. Don't forget that I'm with the freeing up of my memory, now

Re: Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Angel
On 05/15/2013 02:14 PM, Andrew Bradley wrote: Please reply on the list, not privately, unless it's something like a simple thank-you. Typically, you'd do a reply-all, then delete the people other than the list itself. Or if you're using Thunderbird, you could just reply-list. Thank you

Re: Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Andrew Bradley
Now I want to show you what I have written: row = (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) column = (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20) SQUARESIZE = 43 grid = [] for row in range(10): row_squares = [] for column in range(20): rect = Rect(12 +

Immediate Position:::Business Analyst With BI EXP::::At Houston, TX

2013-05-15 Thread susheel kumar
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python 2.7 vs 2.5

2013-05-15 Thread inq1ltd
My web server is using python 2.5. My cgi file is trying to open a shelve. I xxx out some of the path below. I am trying to find out if this error is caused because I am using python 2.7 to write the cgi file and my web server is using python 2.5. I would appreciate a confirmation of this.

Translation API in Python

2013-05-15 Thread Hala Gamal
I want to use A translator from Arabic to English and reverse in my application which is written in pyhton, Is there any open source Translator that can be used with python, Or Any Suggestion? Please Help, Thanks In Advance :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Andrew Bradley
ok, now I have tested this more thoroughly, and it seems i can only do the grid[x][y] function up to grid[9][9], when i really should be able to be doing up to grid[10][20]. What exactly is the function of this row_squares list? On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Andrew Bradley

Re: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread alex23
On May 16, 5:55 am, Citizen Kant citizenk...@gmail.com wrote: As a matter of class, the word python names first a python snake than a Monty Python, which is 50% inspired by that python word, word that's been being considered the given name of a particular kind of snake since times in which

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-15 Thread alex23
On May 16, 12:09 am, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote: It's sort of like when Bush said The French don't even have a word for entrepreneur. Or The Russians have no word for it, therefore detente must be a one- way street. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Translation API in Python

2013-05-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Hala Gamal halagamal2...@gmail.com wrote: I want to use A translator from Arabic to English and reverse in my application which is written in pyhton, Is there any open source Translator that can be used with python, Or Any Suggestion? Please Help, Thanks In

Re: Fractal

2013-05-15 Thread alex23
On May 15, 10:07 pm, Colin J. Williams c...@ncf.ca wrote: Google is your friend.  Try Mandelbrot Python My favourite is this one: http://preshing.com/20110926/high-resolution-mandelbrot-in-obfuscated-python -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Angel
Please put new comments AFTER the part you're quoting. In other words, don't top-post. Also please trim off the stuff that's no longer relevant, so people don't have to read through it all wondering where your implied comments are. On 05/15/2013 06:48 PM, Andrew Bradley wrote: ok, now I

Re: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Fábio Santos
On 15 May 2013 20:59, Citizen Kant citizenk...@gmail.com wrote: Of course one always may want to perform random hacking and turn tables just because and treat the word python as a variable's name, setting that python equals Monty Python in order to checkmate any given conversation. In that case

Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams

2013-05-15 Thread Fábio Santos
On 15 May 2013 19:33, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: On 2013-05-15, F?bio Santos fabiosantos...@gmail.com wrote: It is a tautology is disguise. When you use a low level language, low level details are relevant to the scope of your program. I don't see it that way. I think

Re: Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Andrew Bradley
SQUARESIZE = 43 grid = [] for row in range(10): row_squares = [] for column in range(20): rect = Rect(12 + column * SQUARESIZE, 10 + row * SQUARESIZE, SQUARESIZE, SQUARESIZE) row_squares.append(rect) grid.append(row_squares) It appears to be working

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/11/2013 4:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote: Don't get me wrong. I can see the big picture and the amazing things that programmers write on Python, it's just that my question points to the lowest level of it's existence. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Python is a tool, it does what you

Re: Question re: objects and square grids

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Angel
On 05/15/2013 08:53 PM, Andrew Bradley wrote: SNIP So now, how can I utilize this new grid list? Thank you for the help so far, I feel like the entire grid is now being worked out. -Andrew That's a Pygame question, and I told you at the beginning, I can't really help with that. I'd

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 05/15/2013 08:01 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote: On 5/11/2013 4:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote: Don't get me wrong. I can see the big picture and the amazing things that programmers write on Python, it's just that my question points to the lowest level of it's existence. Sometimes a cigar is just a

python sockets question

2013-05-15 Thread Eric Miller
Can python sockets be used to capture IP traffic when the traffic is originating from a non-python source? Using a Lantronix UDS-1100 serial to IP converter. The goal is to write a small proof of concept piece in Python to capture serial data output by this device over IP. I've done a couple

Re: Python 2.7.x - problem with obejct.__init__() not accepting *args and **kwargs

2013-05-15 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:16:09 +0100, Oscar Benjamin wrote: I don't generally use super() Then you should, especially in Python 3. If you're not using super in single-inheritance classes, then you're merely making your own code harder to read and write, and unnecessarily difficult for others

Re: python sockets question

2013-05-15 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.05.15 20:47, Eric Miller wrote: Can python sockets be used to capture IP traffic when the traffic is originating from a non-python source? Python just exposes the underlying OS socket interface. There is nothing special about sockets in Python. The whole point is to connect

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Terry Jan Reedy
On 5/15/2013 9:17 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html Wikedly funny. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Software epigrams

2013-05-15 Thread rusi
On May 14, 8:08 am, Dan Sommers d...@tombstonezero.net wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2013 04:12:53 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: 8. A programming language is low level when its programs require attention to the irrelevant. I

[RELEASED] Python 2.7.5

2013-05-15 Thread Benjamin Peterson
It is my greatest pleasure to announce the release of Python 2.7.5. 2.7.5 is the latest maintenance release in the Python 2.7 series. You may be surprised to hear from me so soon, as Python 2.7.4 was released slightly more than a month ago. As it turns out, 2.7.4 had several regressions and

RE: [RELEASED] Python 2.7.5

2013-05-15 Thread Carlos Nepomuceno
test_asynchat still hangs! What it does? Should I care? Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 23:19:06 -0500 Subject: [RELEASED] Python 2.7.5 From: benja...@python.org To: python-...@python.org; python-list@python.org; python-announce-l...@python.org It is my

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread alex23
On May 16, 11:17 am, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote:    http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html Best recipe for tuna casserole ever! Cheers for this :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 05/15/2013 10:43 PM, Terry Jan Reedy wrote: On 5/15/2013 9:17 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html Wikedly funny. Today I made a Black Forest cake out of five pounds of cherries and a live beaver, --

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 05/15/2013 11:49 PM, alex23 wrote: On May 16, 11:17 am, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html Best recipe for tuna casserole ever! Cheers for this :) I have have realized that the traditional omelet form (eggs and cheese) is bourgeois.

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-15 Thread rusi
On May 16, 6:17 am, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: On 05/15/2013 08:01 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote: On 5/11/2013 4:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote: Don't get me wrong. I can see the big picture and the amazing things that programmers write on Python, it's just that my question points to

[RELEASED] Python 3.2.5 and Python 3.3.2

2013-05-15 Thread Georg Brandl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Python development team, I am pleased to announce the releases of Python 3.2.5 and 3.3.2. The releases fix a few regressions in 3.2.4 and 3.3.1 in the zipfile, gzip and xml.sax modules. Details can be found in the changelogs:

Generating multi-part emails

2013-05-15 Thread Steven D'Aprano
I wish to generate some test data for a program that deals with emails. I need something that can produce multi-part emails, including broken emails that violate email standards, especially when it comes to Unicode. Does anyone know of something like this that already exists? It's not

Re: Determine actually given command line arguments

2013-05-15 Thread Henry Leyh
On 15.05.2013 17:29, Roy Smith wrote: In article kn00fb$8kc$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: On 15.05.2013 14:24, Roy Smith wrote: In article kmva9j$1hbk$1...@gwdu112.gwdg.de, Henry Leyh henry.l...@ipp.mpg.de wrote: Is there a simple way to determine which

[issue15392] Create a unittest framework for IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Ezio Melotti
Ezio Melotti added the comment: I wonder is there is something wrong with the repository. The repo looks ok to me. You could try to run hg verify on your machine id you want to make sure your clone is ok. I wrote about the problem on the committer's list a few days ago, but got no

[issue15392] Create a unittest framework for IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Just a quick note on the directory naming: idlelib/idle_test sounds like a good option to me. Putting it under idlelib makes it easy for distros to carve it out along with the rest of Idle, as well as making it clear that it falls under the purview of PEP 434

[issue17978] Python crashes if Py_Initialize/Py_Finalize are called multiple times

2013-05-15 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: On 15.05.2013 01:28, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc wrote: Amaury Forgeot d'Arc added the comment: The official way to build without unicode is ./configure --enable-unicode=no But see issue17979. The official way to build without Unicode is: ./configure

[issue17979] Cannot build 2.7 with --enable-unicode=no

2013-05-15 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: Please note that the official way to build Python without Unicode support is (see http://bugs.python.org/issue445762): ./configure --disable-unicode See http://bugs.python.org/issue8767 for the most recent set of fixes that were supplied to make it work

[issue15392] Create a unittest framework for IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Ezio, thank you for the response. 1. I care more about where the directory of tests is than what it is called. 'idle_test' or 'idletest' or whatever would be fine. Lets make that the last bikeshed item ;-). 2. I looked as #10572. It was originally about

[issue15392] Create a unittest framework for IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: For future reference, there is an idle specific issue that I do not think has been mentioned yet. Idle can run in one process, but the default mode now, and perhaps only mode sometime in the future, is two processes communicating through a socket. Testing two

[issue15392] Create a unittest framework for IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Thanks Nick. Tomorrow I should change the directory name, delete try-except, commit, and move onward on the path laid out. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15392

[issue17979] Cannot build 2.7 with --enable-unicode=no

2013-05-15 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: I can't reproduce this when build with --disable-unicode. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue17979 ___

[issue17976] file.write doesn't raise IOError when it should

2013-05-15 Thread Jaakko Moisio
Changes by Jaakko Moisio jaakko.moi...@aalto.fi: Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file30266/fileobject-fix4.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue17976 ___

[issue17976] file.write doesn't raise IOError when it should

2013-05-15 Thread Jaakko Moisio
Jaakko Moisio added the comment: I tried to reply to the review of my last patch but this tracker software itself crashed. Is there anyone who would be interested in the traceback? Anyway, I'll reply here. On 2013/05/15 08:37:29, Charles-François Natali wrote:

[issue17979] Cannot build 2.7 with --enable-unicode=no

2013-05-15 Thread Ezio Melotti
Changes by Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com: -- nosy: +ezio.melotti type: - behavior ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue17979 ___

[issue17974] Migrate unittest to argparse

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Foord
Michael Foord added the comment: Discovery from a module importing main doesn't make sense (although from a *script* importing main it does). So long as python -m unittest -v continues to launch discovery, and the positional argument form of discovery still works, then the new patch looks

[issue17980] ssl.match_hostname() trips over crafted wildcard names

2013-05-15 Thread Florian Weimer
New submission from Florian Weimer: If the name in the certificate contains many * characters, matching the compiled regular expression against the host name can take a very long time. Certificate validation happens before host name checking, so I think this is a minor issue only because it

[issue17976] file.write doesn't raise IOError when it should

2013-05-15 Thread Jaakko Moisio
Jaakko Moisio added the comment: I tried to reply to the review of my last patch but this tracker software itself crashed. Is there anyone who would be interested in the traceback? Never mind. I found the meta tracker and posted my traceback there. --

[issue17754] test_ctypes assumes LANG=C LC_ALL=C

2013-05-15 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 4f594f9b296a by doko in branch '2.7': - Issue #17754: Make ctypes.util.find_library() independent of the locale. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4f594f9b296a -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker

[issue17981] SysLogHandler closes connection before using it

2013-05-15 Thread Julien Palard
New submission from Julien Palard: I have a script that close its socket to /dev/log immediatly before using it, causing it to fail, here is the code : {{{ #!/usr/bin/env python # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- import logging import logging.handlers import daemon from daemon.pidlockfile import

[issue15392] Create a unittest framework for IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Ezio Melotti
Ezio Melotti added the comment: Having idle_test under idlelib is fine with me if it makes your life easier. 3. Many modules have more or useless 'sanity-check' tests run with the 'if __name__' mechanism. I think *all* of these should be replaced with unittest.main(xxx, verbosity=2,

[issue15267] tempfile.TemporaryFile and httplib incompatibility

2013-05-15 Thread Геннадий Егоров
Геннадий Егоров added the comment: i think it is not good, len(fd) must raise AttributeError, not TypeError -- nosy: +Геннадий.Егоров ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15267 ___

[issue17754] test_ctypes assumes LANG=C LC_ALL=C

2013-05-15 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset d6a43a99aea3 by doko in branch '3.3': - Issue #17754: Make ctypes.util.find_library() independent of the locale. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d6a43a99aea3 New changeset 9a44f12df844 by doko in branch 'default': - Issue #17754: Make

[issue17754] test_ctypes assumes LANG=C LC_ALL=C

2013-05-15 Thread Matthias Klose
Matthias Klose added the comment: fixed in 2.7, 3.3 and trunk -- resolution: - fixed stage: needs patch - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue17754

[issue17982] Syntax Error in IDLE3 not in IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Hugh Littlejohn
New submission from Hugh Littlejohn: New to Python, acquired Raspberry PI. Upgraded and now have IDLE and IDLE3. Python 3.2.3 (default, Mar 1 2013, 11:53:50) (GNU 4.6.3] on Linux2 First task, New Window to create Hello, World! Using IDLE3, created file helloworld.py Using Run/ Check Module -

[issue17982] Syntax Error in IDLE3 not in IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Ned Batchelder
Ned Batchelder added the comment: Python 3 has no print statement, it has a print function, so you need: print(Hello, world!) -- nosy: +nedbat ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue17982

[issue15392] Create a unittest framework for IDLE

2013-05-15 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Tests have at least two very different purposes. One is test-driven development of code (and tests) by developers. The other is regression detection by buildbots. if __name__ in code modules, in addition to test modules, makes the first much easier. First,

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