dateutil 2.3 is released
What is dateutil?
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The dateutil package provides powerful extensions tothe standard datetime
module available in Python. It ships with its own timezone database, and
contains
utilities to deal with date parsing, timezones, time deltas, recurrence-rules,
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def fun():
cfun_that_creates_q_in_local_scope()
def fun2():
cfun_that_wants_to_see_if_q_is_available()
So the Python side actually doesn't see 'q' directly at all.
I think you will need to elaborate.
Ok, here goes (and thanks for listening).
The
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On 12/01/2014 05:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Put the above somewhere in your path (e.g. /usr/local/bin), make it
executable, and then instead of shebanging your
scripts with `/usr/local/bin/python` you can use `/usr/local/bin/py_main`,
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On 12/2/14 4:35 AM, Kasper Peeters wrote:
def fun():
cfun_that_creates_q_in_local_scope()
def fun2():
cfun_that_wants_to_see_if_q_is_available()
So the Python side actually doesn't see 'q' directly at all.
I think you will need to elaborate.
Ok, here goes
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 15:28, Israel Brewster wrote:
For example, I have a URL on my Cherrypy app that updates some local
caches. It is accessed at http://server/admin/updatecaches So if I
start typing http://server/a, for example, safari may auto-fill the
dmin/updatecaches, and trigger a
On Dec 2, 2014, at 4:33 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, at 15:28, Israel Brewster wrote:
For example, I have a URL on my Cherrypy app that updates some local
caches. It is accessed at http://server/admin/updatecaches So if I
start typing http://server/a, for example,
In the process of refactoring some code, I serendipitously created what I think
is an essential new bit of Python syntax. The “or else” statement. I ended up
with:
sites_string = args.sites or else self.config['sites']
which, of course, is a syntax error today, but it got me thinking
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
Wouldn’t it be neat to write:
foo == 42 or else
and have that be an synonym for:
assert foo == 42
:-)
Never going to happen, but I like it! Perhaps raise IntimidationError
instead of AssertionError when it fails?
On 12/02/2014 09:41 AM, Zachary Ware wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
Wouldn’t it be neat to write:
foo == 42 or else
and have that be an synonym for:
assert foo == 42
Never going to happen, but I like it! Perhaps raise IntimidationError
instead of
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Zachary Ware
zachary.ware+pyl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
Wouldn’t it be neat to write:
foo == 42 or else
and have that be an synonym for:
assert foo == 42
:-)
Never going to happen, but I
On 2014-12-02 11:41, Zachary Ware wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
Wouldn’t it be neat to write:
foo == 42 or else
and have that be an synonym for:
assert foo == 42
:-)
Never going to happen, but I like it! Perhaps raise
Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com:
foo == 42 or else
In light of the parallel thread discussing the assert statement and
the perils of trusting it to be present even though it can be
optimized away, this or else could be (in the altered words of Don
Corleone), I'm gonna make an
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:28 PM, python help required
19aada...@gmail.com wrote:
def penultimatePatch():
win = GraphWin(Patch1,(100), 100)
amountOfCircles = 5
#Filled Red Circles
fillCircle = Circle(Point(20,20)+100/amountOfCircles)
fillCircle.draw(win)
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 11:28:42 -0900, Israel Brewster wrote:
I'm running to a problem, specifically from
Safari on the Mac, where I start to type a URL, and Safari auto-fills the
rest of a random URL matching what I started to type, and simultaneously
sends a request for that URL to my server,
On 02Dec2014 02:17, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 12/01/2014 05:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Put the above somewhere in your path (e.g. /usr/local/bin), make it
executable, and then instead of shebanging your
scripts with
On 2014-12-02 17:41:06 +, Zachary Ware said:
foo == 42 or else
Never going to happen, but I like it! Perhaps raise IntimidationError
instead of AssertionError when it fails?
That should probably be a DONTPANICError in large, friendly terminal
font letters.
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 11:28:42 -0900, Israel Brewster wrote:
I'm running to a problem, specifically from
Safari on the Mac, where I start to type a URL, and Safari auto-fills the
rest of a random URL
I am new to Python - a few days old - and I would appreciate some help.
I want write a python code to parse the below XML as below:-
ServingCell--NeighbourCell
L41_NBR3347_1--L41_NBR3347_2
L41_NBR3347_1--L41_NBR3347_3
L41_NBR3347_1--L41_NBR3349_1
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014, at 10:59, Israel Brewster wrote:
Primary because they aren’t forms, they are links. And links are, by
definition, GET’s. That said, as I mentioned in earlier replies, if using
a form for a simple link is the Right Way to do things like this, then I
can change it.
As I
Are you interested in Python training for yourself or others? Can you get to
London on 9 December, 2014? If so I would very much like to meet you, and have
reserved a venue in Westminster with refreshments and lunch.
Starting in 2015 I plan to do more training in Europe (initially in the UK)
Hi Peter Otten
re:
There is no assignment
soup_atag = whatever
but there is one to atag. The whole session should when you omit the
offending line
atag = soup_atag.a
or insert
soup_atag = soup
before it.
In a1a70942-6740-4de5-b41e-57a71fb36...@googlegroups.com Uzoma Ojemeni
uojem...@gmail.com writes:
I am new to Python - a few days old - and I would appreciate some help.
I want write a python code to parse the below XML as below:-
ServingCell--NeighbourCell
Last year in late December, I did a brief, 9 question survey of 2.x vs
3.x usage.
I like the think the results were interesting, but I don't have the
spare cash to do it again this year. I probably shouldn't have done
it last year. ^_^
Is anyone interested in taking over the survey? It's on
Zachary Ware zachary.ware+pyl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
Wouldn’t it be neat to write:
foo == 42 or else
and have that be an synonym for:
assert foo == 42
:-)
Never going to happen, but I like it! Perhaps raise
In article mailman.16498.1417544472.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Zachary Ware
zachary.ware+pyl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
Wouldnât it be neat to write:
On 12/02/2014 10:18 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
In the process of refactoring some code, I serendipitously created what I
think is an essential new bit of Python syntax. The “or else” statement. I
ended up with:
sites_string = args.sites or else self.config['sites']
But isn't that
Excuse is: bad programming style.
I don't need snot telling me how to program after 20 years of programming
experience.
This is so far the only thing pissing me off in python.
Now I have to declare global in front of these variables every where I
want to use em:
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Skybuck Flying skybuck2...@hotmail.com wrote:
I don't need snot telling me how to program after 20 years of programming
experience.
This is so far the only thing pissing me off in python.
Now I have to declare global in front of these variables every where I
You're still young, enjoy your youth while you can.
-Original Message-
From: Python-list [mailto:python-list-
bounces+crk=godblessthe...@python.org] On Behalf Of Skybuck Flying
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 6:28 PM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Python handles globals badly.
On 12/02/2014 07:27 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Excuse is: bad programming style.
I don't need snot telling me how to program after 20 years of programming
experience.
This is so far the only thing pissing me off in python.
Now I have to declare global in front of these variables every
Skybuck Flying skybuck2...@hotmail.com writes:
I don't need snot telling me how to program after 20 years of
programming experience.
If you've already determined what advice you do or do not need, then
you're welcome to solve your problems by yourself.
We'll be here when you decide it's time
Meanwhile...
I modified my code, and added these globals in front of it.
It didn't take too long to do.
But it did add something like 300 unnecessary lines of code, which is what
kinda annoys me.
I'd like to keep my code compact.
Anyway I double checked to make sure other routines had
Some issues I'd like to address to you:
1. Structured programming requires more programming time.
2. Structured programming implies structure which might be less flexible.
3. Python objects require self keyword to be used everywhere, and other
akwardness wich leads to more
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Skybuck Flying skybuck2...@hotmail.com wrote:
I hope python one day gets rid of it;
1. To stop the confusion.
2. To stop the doubt.
3. To stop the wasted lines.
4. To program with more confidence.
5. To stop to have to inspect what's going on if one wants to
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Skybuck Flying skybuck2...@hotmail.com wrote:
Though I do hope to see a programming language some day, that is aimed at
more mature programmers that know what they are doing.
Instead of a language aimed at noobs :) a noob language which forbids
certain styles
On 12/02/2014 11:32 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Some issues I'd like to address to you:
1. Structured programming requires more programming time.
2. Structured programming implies structure which might be less flexible.
3. Python objects require self keyword to be used everywhere, and
other
On 11Nov2014 17:35, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
Okay, the explicit Python question: Clicking on a mail link in a web browser
can start an external program. I would like that external program to be a
Python script that: opens a new tab in the currently running browser (or a new
On 12/02/2014 09:32 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Some issues I'd like to address to you:
1. Structured programming requires more programming time.
2. Structured programming implies structure which might be less flexible.
3. Python objects require self keyword to be used everywhere, and other
Kasper Peeters wrote:
I could in principle decide to make these settings a proper
Python object, and ask the user to create one and pass it along at
every C-function call.
I would make the C functions methods of the object holding
the settings. Your nested function example would then look
Ned Batchelder wrote:
I would use thread locals for this:
https://docs.python.org/2/library/threading.html#threading.local
You could get dynamic scoping that way, but the OP
seems to want lexical scoping.
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Greetings,
I'm a beginner of python, I just want your help.
We'll gladly do it, however you need to invest some time and write better
questions :) See http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
How can I get the Failure values from the Console in to a txt or a csv file?
We need more
Israel Brewster wrote:
Primary because they aren’t forms, they are links. And links are, by
definition, GET’s. That said, as I mentioned in earlier replies, if using a
form for a simple link is the Right Way to do things like this, then I can
change it.
I'd look at it another way and say that
On 12/02/2014 09:32 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Some issues I'd like to address to you:
1. Structured programming requires more programming time.
2. Structured programming implies structure which might be less flexible.
3. Python objects require self keyword to be used everywhere, and other
Uzoma Ojemeni uojem...@gmail.com writes:
...
One easy option would be to use the XPath support in the lxml
package -- provided you have not problem with the installation
of external libraries (libxml2 and libxslt) and C-extensions (lxml).
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
On 12/02/2014 09:32 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Some issues I'd like to address to you:
1. Structured programming requires more programming time.
2. Structured programming implies structure which might be less
Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
foo == 42 or else
Has a PERL stink to it... like: foo == 42 or die
I think this statement needs to take ellipsis as well
foo == 42 or else ...
Sturls
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Akira Li added the comment:
Alexander Belopolsky added the comment:
I've provide the direct quote from *C* standard ...
I understand that C standard uses the word encoding, but it does so
for a reason that is completely unrelated to the choice of epoch.
Encoding is how the bytes in memory
Greg Turner added the comment:
Also:
In types.prepare_class, here is what currently happens:
we let x be, in order of preference:
(a) the explicitly given type if, one is given, else
(b) type(bases[0]), if it exists, else
(c) type
and then, if isinstance(x, type), we run
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
For now sets and frozensets are comparable with other types in Python 2.
frozenset(xrange(10)) 1
False
set(xrange(10)) 1
False
The only known to me uncomparable types in Python 2 are naive and aware
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Waldemar Parzonka added the comment:
Thanks for taking a look into that.
And yes the behaviour when invalid value is encountered is bit weird as the
rest of the cookie is being silently ignored which is probably less than ideal
in most cases.
Just wonder if there is any easy way of making
Stefan Champailler added the comment:
I'm adding a scenario for this problem, a real life one, so it gives a bit more
substance.
I use SQLALchemy. I do queries with it which returns KeyedTuples (an SQLALchemy
type). KeyedTuples inherits from tuple. KeyedTuples are, in principle, like
New submission from Radosław Szkodziński:
multiprocessing.Queue.empty() uses pipe polling on Windows. Unfortunately, pipe
semantics on windows are different from POSIX.
The result is either:
- Hang when one process tries to get() and another checks for empty()
- Falsely returning empty() ==
Stefan Champailler added the comment:
Reading bugs a bit, I see this is quite related to :
http://bugs.python.org/issue14886
stF
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Matthias Klose added the comment:
thanks for bringing this up. I don't agree that the non-availability in the
windows build should be used to close the issue. Linux distros distribute the
source, and are still affected? If it's already removed in Python3, why not
remove it here as well?
New submission from Martin Panter:
The following code generates a connection reset error on Wine (Windows
emulator, because I don’t have actual Windows to test on). Probably only a
minor issue, but the error message isn’t quite right:
s = create_connection((localhost, 8181))
# Server end
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Matthias Klose added the comment:
this looks ok to me, can we apply this for 2.7.9?
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Matthias Klose added the comment:
updated patch to use an optional parameter max_decode.
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Nick Coghlan added the comment:
As an interim step, should we add Ezio's newsmerge.py to Tools/scripts and
instructions for enabling it to the devguide?
That seems straightforward enough, and doesn't require any global workflow
changes.
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Nick Coghlan added the comment:
Given that it's only the demo directory (and a relatively obscure demo as well
these days), I'm inclined to just fix it upstream rather than making the
distros patch it.
There's also the fact that we distribute the source tarballs from python.org as
well, and
Matthias Klose added the comment:
document the new exception
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Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
In issue19361 I suggest to change error messages even more and drop end
position from Extra data error message.
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Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
Looks either you have opened a file with the backslashreplace error handler or
ran Python with PYTHONIOENCODING which sets the backslashreplace error handler.
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I suggest to close this issue as caused by a bug in third party extension.
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New submission from Maytag Metalark:
Performing a logical negation (`not`) on `NotImplemented` should return
`NotImplemented`. Currently, it returns `False`.
A common pattern for implementing __eq__ and __ne__ is to implement the
comparison in __eq__, and simply delegate to it in __ne__ with
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
I agree with Victor that two calls to confstr() should be enough. An example in
confstr manpage uses two calls and I think there is no many software (if any)
in the world which does more.
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New submission from Maytag Metalark:
`None` should never be the result of the built-in `min` and `max` functions.
When `None` is supplied as one of the values to check, it should never be
chosen as the result.
This would make it much easier to find a minimum and/or maximum while iterating
Tom Christie added the comment:
I believe the status of this should be reassessed and that python should
default to escaping '\u2028' and '\u2029'. *Strictly* speaking this isn't a bug
and is per the JSON spec.
*However* this *is* a bug in the JSON spec - which *should* be a strict subset
of
New submission from Antoine Pitrou:
Currently, C extensions are named something like _helperlib.cpython-34dm.so.
This doesn't take into account the bitness of the interpreter (32- vs. 64-bit),
which makes it awkward to use the same working copy with two different
interpreters (you have to
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
See also the PEP 3149.
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
PEP 3149 says It is not currently clear that the facilities in this PEP are
even useful for Windows. Well, it seems I have found a use for it :-)
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
Ideally, we would use distutils.util.get_platform(). However, there are two
cases where it relies on other modules:
- the re module under CygWin
- the sysconfig and _osx_support under OS X
Of course, ideally we should be able to hardcode this into the compiled
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
There is explicit note in the documentation about incompatibility with
JavaScript.
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Simeon Visser added the comment:
This doesn't happen in Python 3 as None can't be compared to other elements:
min([1,2,3,None])
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
TypeError: unorderable types: NoneType() int()
I can also imagine people now using min with the
Tom Christie added the comment:
There is explicit note in the documentation about incompatibility with
JavaScript.
That may be, but we're still unnecessarily making for a poorer user experience.
There's no good reason why we shouldn't just treat \u2028 and \u2029 as control
characters -
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Simeon Visser added the comment:
So, to clarify, as the problem no longer occurs in Python 3 (as it requires the
caller to provide only orderable objects) I'm not sure a meaningful change can
be made here. It would require changing the behaviour of min/max in Python
2.7.x in a way that could
Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
As a side-note, it is interesting to note that Python currently wrongly
identifies 32-bit builds under 64-bit Linux:
Python 3.5.0a0 (default:64a54f0c87d7, Nov 2 2014, 17:18:13)
[GCC 4.9.1] on linux
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more
R. David Murray added the comment:
This would break Python's consistency. 'not' of a value returns its boolean
inverse, and the boolean value of NotImplemented is True, just like the boolean
value of any object that does not have methods that set its boolean value is
True. Having anything
R. David Murray added the comment:
Just select your initial value as something that works with the sequence you
are iterating. If necessary, you can define custom 'always maximum' and
'always minimum' objects. (You could try proposing builtin objects with that
feature on the python-ideas
New submission from Antoine Pitrou:
This patch fixes MULTIARCH computation when using CFLAGS=-m32:
diff --git a/configure b/configure
--- a/configure
+++ b/configure
@@ -5402,7 +5402,7 @@ hp*|HP*)
esac;;
esac
-MULTIARCH=$($CC --print-multiarch 2/dev/null)
+MULTIARCH=$($CC $CFLAGS
Brett Cannon added the comment:
If it's bugging you, Terry, feel free to delete that part of the check as it's
of more use to core devs and we won't forget.
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
The MULTIARCH variable can help at least under Linux:
import sysconfig
sysconfig.get_platform()
'linux-x86_64'
sysconfig.get_config_var('MULTIARCH')
'i386-linux-gnu'
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New submission from MarkIngramUK:
If you open a text file for append, but then perform any form of seeking,
before attempting to write to the file, it will cause the BOM to be written
before you text. See the attached file for an example.
If you run the test, take a look at the output file,
Brett Cannon added the comment:
Apparently this broke under Windows:
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Windows7%203.x/builds/8999/steps/test/logs/stdio
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
There is also platform.architecture(). I don't like its implementation, it
relies on the external file program :-(
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
Buildbot failures observed on koobs-freebsd9 and koobs-freebsd10 for 3.x and
3.4, respectively.
It looks like test_asyncio pass on the last 5 builds of the following
buildbots, and so I consider the issue as closed.
Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset a4b58e779a16 by Victor Stinner in branch '3.4':
Close #22473: asyncio doc: rephrase Future with run_forever() example
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a4b58e779a16
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
I rephrase the explanation of the example and I removed the useless note.
Thanks for your feedback David. Don't hesitate to propose other enhancements to
the documentation!
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New submission from Demian Brecht:
As found in #22931, if an invalid cookie value is found while parsing, the rest
of the cookie is silently ignored. The expected behavior is undefined in RFC
6265, but does state that if unexpected values are encountered that user agents
MAY ignore an entire
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