Objects with __name__ attribute

2017-10-24 Thread ast
Hi, I know two Python's objects which have an intrinsic name, classes and functions. def f(): pass f.__name__ 'f' g = f g.__name__ 'f' class Test: pass Test.__name__ 'Test' Test2 = Test Test2.__name__ 'Test' Are there others objects with a __name__ attribute and what is it us

Re: h5py.File() gives error message

2017-10-24 Thread Rob Gaddi
On 10/24/2017 10:58 AM, C W wrote: Dear list, The following Python code gives an error message # Python code starts here: import numpy as np import h5py train_dataset = h5py.File('datasets/train_catvnoncat.h5', "r") # Python code ends The error message: train_dataset = h5py.File('train_catvn

h5py.File() gives error message

2017-10-24 Thread C W
Dear list, The following Python code gives an error message # Python code starts here: import numpy as np import h5py train_dataset = h5py.File('datasets/train_catvnoncat.h5', "r") # Python code ends The error message: train_dataset = h5py.File('train_catvnoncat.h5', "r") Traceback (most recen

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Richard Damon
On 10/24/17 6:30 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:09 am, Peter J. Holzer wrote: On 2017-10-23 04:21, Steve D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 02:29 pm, Stefan Ram wrote: If the probability of certain codes (either single codes, or sequences of codes) are non-equal, then yo

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:40 am, Lele Gaifax wrote: > >> Steve D'Aprano writes: >> >>> But given an empty file, how do you distinguish the empty file you get >>> from 'music.mp3' and the identical empty file you get from 'movie.avi'? >> >> Tha

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:09 am, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > On 2017-10-23 04:21, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 02:29 pm, Stefan Ram wrote: >>> >> If the probability of certain codes (either single codes, or sequences of >> codes) are non-equal, then you can take advantage of that by enc

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:40 am, Lele Gaifax wrote: > Steve D'Aprano writes: > >> But given an empty file, how do you distinguish the empty file you get >> from 'music.mp3' and the identical empty file you get from 'movie.avi'? > > That's simple enough: of course one empty file would be > "music.m

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > danceswithnumb...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I did that quite a while ago. 352,954 kb. > > > Are you sure? Does that include the size of all the > code, lookup tables, etc. needed to decompress it? My bet is that danceswithnumbers does indeed h

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Peter Pearson
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:51:37 +1100, Steve D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 01:27 pm, danceswithnumb...@gmail.com wrote: > Yes! Decode reverse is easy..sorry so excited i could shout. Then this should be easy for you: http://marknelson.us/2012/10/09/the-random-compression-challenge-

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2017-10-23 04:21, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 02:29 pm, Stefan Ram wrote: >> > If the probability of certain codes (either single codes, or sequences of > codes) are non-equal, then you can take advantage of that by encoding the > common cases into a short representation, and th

Re: right list for SIGABRT python binary question ?

2017-10-24 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 22.10.2017 22:15, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 07:10:31PM +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >>> Running a debug build of py27 gave me a first lead: this >>> Debian system (Testing, upgraded all the way from various >>> releases ago) carries an incompatible mxDateTime which I'l

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Tim Golden
On 24/10/2017 16:40, Lele Gaifax wrote: Steve D'Aprano writes: But given an empty file, how do you distinguish the empty file you get from 'music.mp3' and the identical empty file you get from 'movie.avi'? That's simple enough: of course one empty file would be "music.mp3.zip.zip.zip", while

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Lele Gaifax
Steve D'Aprano writes: > But given an empty file, how do you distinguish the empty file you get > from 'music.mp3' and the identical empty file you get from 'movie.avi'? That's simple enough: of course one empty file would be "music.mp3.zip.zip.zip", while the other would be "movie.avi.zip.zip.z

Re: choice of web-framework

2017-10-24 Thread John Black
In article , ros...@gmail.com says... > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Chris Warrick wrote: > > On 23 October 2017 at 21:37, John Black wrote: > >> Chris, thanks for all this detailed information. I am confused though > >> with your database recommendation. You say you teach SQLAlchemy bu

Re: choice of web-framework

2017-10-24 Thread justin walters
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > (There are other ORMs than SQLAlchemy, of course; I can't recall the > exact syntax for Django's off the top of my head, but it's going to be > broadly similar to this.) > > ChrisA > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-li

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Ben Bacarisse
Steve D'Aprano writes: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 06:46 pm, danceswithnumb...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Greg, you're very smart, but you are missing a big key. I'm not padding, >> you are still thinking inside the box, and will never solve this by doing >> so. Yes! At least you see my accomplishment, thi

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Ben Bacarisse
Steve D'Aprano writes: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 09:23 pm, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > >> Forget random data. For one thing it's hard to define, > > That bit is true. > >> but more importantly no one cares about it. > > But that's wrong. All generalisations are false. I was being hyperbolic. > For in

Re: Installing tkinter on FreeBSD

2017-10-24 Thread Stephan Houben
Op 2017-10-23, Thomas Jollans schreef : > On 24/10/17 00:16, Dick Holmes wrote: >> I am trying to use tkinter on a FreeBSD system but the installed >> versions of Python (2.7 and 3.6) don't have thinter configured. I tried >> to download the source (no binaries available for FreeBSD). What versi

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 06:46 pm, danceswithnumb...@gmail.com wrote: > Greg, you're very smart, but you are missing a big key. I'm not padding, > you are still thinking inside the box, and will never solve this by doing > so. Yes! At least you see my accomplishment, this will compress any random > fi

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 09:23 pm, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > Forget random data. For one thing it's hard to define, That bit is true. > but more importantly no one cares about it. But that's wrong. For instance: - Encrypted data looks very much like random noise. With more and more data traversin

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Moore
On 24 October 2017 at 12:04, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > Paul Moore writes: > >> On 24 October 2017 at 11:23, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>> For example, run the complete works of Shakespeare through your program. >>> The result is very much not random data, but that's the sort of data >>> people want to c

Re: choice of web-framework

2017-10-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Chris Warrick wrote: > On 23 October 2017 at 21:37, John Black wrote: >> Chris, thanks for all this detailed information. I am confused though >> with your database recommendation. You say you teach SQLAlchemy but >> generally use PostgreSQL yourself. I can may

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Ben Bacarisse
Paul Moore writes: > On 24 October 2017 at 11:23, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> For example, run the complete works of Shakespeare through your program. >> The result is very much not random data, but that's the sort of data >> people want to compress. If you can compress the output of your >> compre

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Moore
On 24 October 2017 at 11:23, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > For example, run the complete works of Shakespeare through your program. > The result is very much not random data, but that's the sort of data > people want to compress. If you can compress the output of your > compressor you have made a good s

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:20 pm, Gregory Ewing wrote: > danceswithnumb...@gmail.com wrote: >> I did that quite a while ago. 352,954 kb. > > Are you sure? Does that include the size of all the > code, lookup tables, etc. needed to decompress it? > > But even if you have, you haven't disproved the th

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Ben Bacarisse
danceswithnumb...@gmail.com writes: > Finally figured out how to turn this into a random binary compression > program. Since my transform can compress more than dec to binary. Then > i took a random binary stream, Forget random data. For one thing it's hard to define, but more importantly no one

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Moore
On 24 October 2017 at 09:43, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Paul Moore wrote: >> >> But that's not "compression", that's simply using a better encoding. >> In the technical sense, "compression" is about looking at redundancies >> that go beyond the case of how effectively you pack data into the >> bytes a

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Gregory Ewing
Paul Moore wrote: But that's not "compression", that's simply using a better encoding. In the technical sense, "compression" is about looking at redundancies that go beyond the case of how effectively you pack data into the bytes available. There may be a difference in the way the terms are use

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Gregory Ewing
danceswithnumb...@gmail.com wrote: My 8 year old can decode this back into base 10, Keep in mind that your 8 year old has more information than just the 32 bits you wrote down -- he can also see that there *are* 32 bits and no more. That's hidden information that you're not counting. -- Greg

[ANN] Nuclio: A scalable, open source, real-time processing platform

2017-10-24 Thread Miki Tebeka
Hi, Just wanted to share a project I'm working on. It a super fast serverless that support Python handlers as well. Check out more at https://www.iguazio.com/nuclio-new-serverless-superhero/ Code at https://github.com/nuclio/nuclio/ Happy hacking, -- Miki -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread danceswithnumbers
No leading zeroes are being dropped offwish this board has an edit button. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Christian Gollwitzer
Am 23.10.17 um 12:13 schrieb Marko Rauhamaa: Thomas Jollans : On 2017-10-23 11:32, danceswithnumb...@gmail.com wrote: According to this website. This is an uncompressable stream. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompressible_string 12344321 No, it's not. According to that article,

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread danceswithnumbers
Greg, you're very smart, but you are missing a big key. I'm not padding, you are still thinking inside the box, and will never solve this by doing so. Yes! At least you see my accomplishment, this will compress any random file. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-24 Thread Gregory Ewing
danceswithnumb...@gmail.com wrote: Compress this: 4135124325 Bin to dec...still very large 0110 0000 1101 01100101 Wait right there! You're cheating by dropping off leading 0 bits. The maximum value of a 10 digit decimal number is 99, which in hex is 2540be3ff. That's 34