On 02/17/2018 06:31 PM, bartc wrote:
> It could well do all that. But it surely cannot need 18,000 lines' worth
> to do it; that much should be obvious to anyone. And in fact, for
> building with MS's Visual Studio, it doesn't use that file at all, but
> something smaller. (Although the MS build
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM, bartc wrote:
> On 18/02/2018 00:45, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:13 AM, bartc wrote:
>
>
>> It's text, but it is an intermediate or "object" file. It's not doing
>> pointless stuff; it's coping with the myriad platforms and variants
>> t
On 18/02/2018 00:45, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:13 AM, bartc wrote:
It's text, but it is an intermediate or "object" file. It's not doing
pointless stuff; it's coping with the myriad platforms and variants
that Python has support for.
It could well do all that. But it
I've been dreading this moment for a couple years: it looks like
gmane.org is gone. The original operator/maintainer gave up a couple
years ago and pulled the plug. Somebody else took over at that point.
The Web UI was never revived, but the basic NNTP<->mailing-list gateway
continue to work -- un
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:13 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 17/02/2018 22:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:50 AM, bartc wrote:
>
>
>>> That's a very interesting observation.
>>>
>>> I've frequently made the complaint about systems that I consider large
>>> and
>>> complex also le
On 17/02/2018 22:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:50 AM, bartc wrote:
That's a very interesting observation.
I've frequently made the complaint about systems that I consider large and
complex also leading to such issues, where no one individual can see the
whole picture.
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:50 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 17/02/2018 20:11, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>
>
>>> Okay, I'm curious. How did C# force you to make extra HTTP requests
>>> that were no longer necessary when you rewrote in Python?
>>
>>
>> It
On 17/02/2018 20:11, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
Okay, I'm curious. How did C# force you to make extra HTTP requests
that were no longer necessary when you rewrote in Python?
It didn't *force* those requests to be made, but the code was so large
a
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:25:15 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> 1) Type safety.
>>
>> This is often touted as a necessity for industrial-grade software. It
>> isn't. There are many things that a type system, no matter how
>> sophisticated, c
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:53:08 +0100, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>>
>>> I just found Twython. I managed to post a tweet with:
>>> from twython import Twython
>>> twitter = Twython(APP_KEY, APP_SECRET,
>>> OAUTH_TOKEN
Il giorno sabato 17 febbraio 2018 20:21:53 UTC+1, Peter Otten ha scritto:
> Beppe wrote:
>
> > I would validate values input, on key, in multiple Entry widgets create at
> > run time
> >
> > I wrote this snip but even if the entry are created and the callback work
> > well the relative value is m
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 9:32 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> You'd be surprised how rarely that kind of performance even matters.
>> The author of that article cites C# as a superior language, but in the
>> rewrite from C# to Python (the same one I
Beppe wrote:
> I would validate values input, on key, in multiple Entry widgets create at
> run time
>
> I wrote this snip but even if the entry are created and the callback work
> well the relative value is missing
> my_list = (2.14,18.3,76.4,2.38,0.425,2.68,1.09,382,8.59,0.495)
hi all,
I would validate values input, on key, in multiple Entry widgets create at run
time
I wrote this snip but even if the entry are created and the callback work well
the relative value is missing
#!/usr/bin/python3
import tkinter as tk
class Application(tk.Frame):
def __init__(self, m
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:25:15 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> 1) Type safety.
>
> This is often touted as a necessity for industrial-grade software. It
> isn't. There are many things that a type system, no matter how
> sophisticated, cannot catch;
The usual response to that is to make ever-finer-
On 17/02/18 09:29, Gregory Ewing wrote:
boB Stepp wrote:
"Python is viewed as a ubiquitous programming language; however, its
design limits its potential as a reliable and high performance systems
language. Unfortunately, not every developer is aware of its
limitations."
"The Toyota Corolla is
On 17/02/2018 14:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
And ironically, in a *modern* statically typed language, you may not even
need the type declarations. After all, in a modern type-checker, the
compiler can infer that since foo returns 'hello world', it must return a
string; it can probably even infer
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:18:16 -0800, windhorn wrote about running scripts
from the interpreter:
[...]
> That works, but nothing is very convenient for debugging simple scripts.
> If I run the script from a command prompt it works, but I lose all my
> other stuff (debugging functions, variables, e
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 9:32 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> You'd be surprised how rarely that kind of performance even matters.
> The author of that article cites C# as a superior language, but in the
> rewrite from C# to Python (the same one I mentioned in the other
> post), I sped the program up i
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 03:29:49 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
> His dreadful strawperson code snippet should not be allowed even in a
> beginning programming class, let alone in professional programs.
>
> def foo(x):
> if is_valid(x):
> return "hello world"
> else:
> return b
Has anybody else been getting unexpected/unsolicited emails from the
Python bug-tracker?
I'm not associated with (didn't submit/lurk/follow/sign-up-for) this
bug or its notifications but somehow I'm getting messages on this
particular issue. I've now received two notifications (both on this
same
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:53:08 +0100, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>
>> I just found Twython. I managed to post a tweet with:
>> from twython import Twython
>> twitter = Twython(APP_KEY, APP_SECRET,
>> OAUTH_TOKEN, OAUTH_TOKEN_SECRET)
>> posted
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Marko Rauhamaa writes:
>
>> Many people think static typing is key to high quality. I tend to think
>> the reverse is true: the boilerplate of static typing hampers
>> expressivity so much that, on the net, quality suffers.
>
> I don't fin
Cecil Westerhof writes:
> I just found Twython. I managed to post a tweet with:
> from twython import Twython
> twitter = Twython(APP_KEY, APP_SECRET,
> OAUTH_TOKEN, OAUTH_TOKEN_SECRET)
> posted = twitter.update_status(status = quote)
>
> But I want to send a rep
Marko Rauhamaa writes:
> Many people think static typing is key to high quality. I tend to think
> the reverse is true: the boilerplate of static typing hampers
> expressivity so much that, on the net, quality suffers.
I don't find that with Haskell. It's statically typed but the types are
almo
Gregory Ewing :
> boB Stepp wrote:
>> "Python is viewed as a ubiquitous programming language; however, its
>> design limits its potential as a reliable and high performance
>> systems language. Unfortunately, not every developer is aware of its
>> limitations."
>
> "The Toyota Corolla is viewed as
I just found Twython. I managed to post a tweet with:
from twython import Twython
twitter = Twython(APP_KEY, APP_SECRET,
OAUTH_TOKEN, OAUTH_TOKEN_SECRET)
posted = twitter.update_status(status = quote)
But I want to send a reply on this tweet. I tried:
post
boB Stepp wrote:
"Python is viewed as a ubiquitous programming language; however, its
design limits its potential as a reliable and high performance systems
language. Unfortunately, not every developer is aware of its
limitations."
"The Toyota Corolla is viewed as a ubiquitous family car; howev
Anyone else having problems with interacting with
http://code.enthought.com/pages/mayavi-project.html
?
All I can see is the front page. Clicking on anything
in that page results in nothing or 404. I have
tried several browsers.
/Martin
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On 2/16/2018 10:22 PM, boB Stepp wrote:
This article is written by Nathan Murthy, a staff software engineer at
Tesla. The article is found at:
https://medium.com/@natemurthy/all-the-things-i-hate-about-python-5c5ff5fda95e
To add to what other have said:
Here is what the author said about word
Am 17.02.18 um 05:54 schrieb boB Stepp:
And this is one I
am still puzzling over: Are statically-typed languages inherently
"safer" than properly implemented dynamically-typed languages? I can
see the advantages of catching type errors at compile time versus run
time.
If you haven't tried s
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