adrien oyono writes:
> I have recently read the documentation about how imports work on python,
> and I was wondering why, when you execute a python file, the current
> directory is not added by default to the PYTHONPATH ?
Maybe, to avoid surprises?
You can invoke a script from different positio
On Monday, 26 March 2018 11:32:51 UTC+5:30, dieter wrote:
> Fürther inspection utilities: "dir", "vars" and the "inspect" module.
> Read the documentation to find out what they do.
Thanks, Dieter, That is really helpful!
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Arshpreet Singh writes:
> ...
> As debugging the code I got at line 10. I am sending a request to particular
> API and returning a request_object . further deep down it generates the
> "response_object" as from my requirements that should be JSON object but I am
> only getting Python-Object in
Peter J. Holzer wrote:
(Historically, many unixes allowed all users to read the environment
variables of all processes. I don't know if this is still the case for
e.g. Solaris or AIX - or macOS)
A quick test suggests it's still true in MacOSX 10.6:
% ps aeuww
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ
On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 12:55:43 AM UTC+5:30, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2018-03-25 19:18:23 +0200, ast wrote:
> > Le 25/03/2018 à 03:47, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
> > > The Original Poster (OP) is concerned about saving, what, a tenth of a
> > > microsecond in total? Hardly seems worth the e
I imagine pygame could do this, if you give it:
https://freesound.org/people/pinkyfinger/packs/4409/
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Bernard via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Pyton Friends,
> Do you have any code that will play the notes "ABCDEFG" from my computer
> keyboard when a key is pressed ? Fo
On 3/25/18 9:37 PM, bartc wrote:
On 26/03/2018 00:27, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:32 AM, bartc wrote:
Using CPython on my machine, doing a string to int conversion that
specific number took 200 times as long as doing a normal assignment.
That conversion took 4 microseconds.
Not signi
On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 5:57:28 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> [supposed "fix" to the sample script snipped]
>
> You know Rick, every time I start to think that talking to
> you like an adult might result in a productive and
> intelligent conversation, you pull a stunt like this. Once
>
On 26/03/2018 00:27, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:32 AM, bartc wrote:
Using CPython on my machine, doing a string to int conversion that
specific number took 200 times as long as doing a normal assignment.
That conversion took 4 microseconds.
Not significant if it's only done once. But
On 3/25/18 8:32 AM, bartc wrote:
On 25/03/2018 02:47, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:05:56 +0100, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
[...]
yes, good idea
Not if you want to avoid that string to int conversion (as you stated).
That is still there, but in addition you now split the string
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:29:07 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>
> [...]
>>> >> By the way, multiple CPU machines are different from CPUs with
>>> >> multiple cores:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://smallbusiness.chron.com/multiple-cpu-vs-multicore-33195.h
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:50:27 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2018-03-25 14:49:44 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> The moniker "Python X-thousand" (Python 3000, 4000, 5000...) is usually
>> understood to mean a backwards-compatibility breaking version. Since
>> Python 4 will *not* be such a vers
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 10:33:49 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 9:11:35 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 04:49:21 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
> [...]
>> I never said anything about not allowing it. But since you've gone on
>> the defence about parens-fr
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:29:07 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
[...]
>> >> By the way, multiple CPU machines are different from CPUs with
>> >> multiple cores:
>> >>
>> >> http://smallbusiness.chron.com/multiple-cpu-vs-multicore-33195.html
>> >
>> > Yeah, it was always "multiple CPUs", not "multiple
Was "Accessing parent objects."
On 03/25/2018 12:26 PM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
>> print("I am {0.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self))
>
> I prefer keyword arguments, but if I used it that way I'd do:
>
> print("I am {0} foo".format(self.__class__.__name__))
These are contrived examples. In r
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:30:14 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
[...]
>> Especially since by your own admission, you are *giving up correctness*
>> in order to buy "consistency":
>
> "sacrificing correctness" only in a purely ideological sense.
>
> Explicit inheritance (aka: hard-coding the superclass s
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:30 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
>> Especially since by your own admission, you are *giving up
>> correctness* in order to buy "consistency":
>
> "sacrificing correctness" only in a purely ideological
> sense.
>
> Explicit inheritance (aka: hard-coding the superclass
> symbol)
On 2018-02-19 12:39:51 +0100, Adriaan Renting wrote:
> >>> On 17-2-2018 at 22:02, in message
> ,
> Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> > wrote:
> >> If you're talking about common desktop computers, I think you're
> >> forgetting how recent multicore mach
Pyton Friends,
Do you have any code that will play the notes "ABCDEFG" from my computer
keyboard when a key is pressed ? For example if I press the "a" key the note
"a" will sound out of my speaker.
Thanks,
BigB
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On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 9:52:30 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 04:49:21 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
[...]
> But refusing to use super in modern, new-style classes that
> don't have anything to do with tkinter is precisely the
> sort of *foolish* consistency that Emerson
On 2018-03-25 14:49:44 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> The moniker "Python X-thousand" (Python 3000, 4000, 5000...) is usually
> understood to mean a backwards-compatibility breaking version. Since
> Python 4 will *not* be such a version, what you are calling 4000 is
> better called "5000".
If
On 2018-03-25 19:18:23 +0200, ast wrote:
> Le 25/03/2018 à 03:47, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
> > The Original Poster (OP) is concerned about saving, what, a tenth of a
> > microsecond in total? Hardly seems worth the effort, especially if you're
> > going to end up with something even slower.
> >
>
On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 10:02:20 AM UTC-5, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
[...]
> Furthermore, the only case I'd use a positional argument is
> if I were 100% certain the code will not change, which I'm
> not.
And short of you possessing a crystal ball in good working
order (mine's currently in the s
Le 25/03/2018 à 03:47, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:05:56 +0100, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
The Original Poster (OP) is concerned about saving, what, a tenth of a
microsecond in total? Hardly seems worth the effort, especially if you're
going to end up with something even sl
On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 9:11:35 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 04:49:21 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
[...]
> I never said anything about not allowing it. But since
> you've gone on the defence about parens-free function
> calls, how is this for "consistency" in Ruby?
>
>
On 03/25/2018 12:07 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
On 03/25/2018 05:10 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
print("I am {self.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self=self))
Unrelated to the original issue but why not one of the following?
print("I am {0.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self))
I prefer k
On 03/25/2018 04:31 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar
wrote:
On 03/25/2018 03:25 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
None.foo will raise AttributeError.
Right.. As I said, I tried to assume as little as possible about OP's code
and namespace. Didn't want to include C
On 25/03/2018 16:47, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2018-03-25, bartc wrote:
On 25/03/2018 02:47, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The Original Poster (OP) is concerned about saving, what, a tenth of a
microsecond in total? Hardly seems worth the effort, especially if you're
going to end up with something eve
I have a VM in the cloud running centos that comes with python 2.7
installed on it. For my purpose, I need python 3.5 (or 6?)
However there is an issue with urlgrabber, and I believe this is due to
inconsistencies with the 2 python versions, whcih I am not able to resolve.
DETAILS
INSTALL PYTHO
bartc writes:
> On 25/03/2018 15:53, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> ast writes:
>
>>> C = int(
>>> "28871482380507712126714295971303939919776094592797"
>>> "22700926516024197432303799152733116328983144639225"
>>> "94197780311092934965557841894944174093380561511397"
>>> "42154241693397290542371100275
On 2018-03-25, bartc wrote:
> On 25/03/2018 02:47, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> The Original Poster (OP) is concerned about saving, what, a tenth of a
>> microsecond in total? Hardly seems worth the effort, especially if you're
>> going to end up with something even slower.
>
> Using CPython on my
On 3/25/2018 11:01 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
On 03/25/2018 03:25 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/25/2018 7:42 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
class C2(object):
def __init__(self, parent=None):
self.parent = parent
Since parent is required, it should not be optional.
You can still c
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar
wrote:
>
> On 03/25/2018 03:25 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>> None.foo will raise AttributeError.
>>
>
> Right.. As I said, I tried to assume as little as possible about OP's code
> and namespace. Didn't want to include C1 in __init__ signature because I
Hello everyone,
This is my first email to the python list, I'll try my best to do it well.
TL;DR
I have recently read the documentation about how imports work on python,
and I was wondering why, when you execute a python file, the current
directory is not added by default to the PYTHONPATH ?
Ex
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar
wrote:
>
> On 03/25/2018 03:25 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>
>> On 3/25/2018 7:42 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
>>
>>> class C2(object):
>>> def __init__(self, parent=None):
>>> self.parent = parent
>>
>>
>> Since parent is required, it shoul
On 25/03/2018 15:53, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
ast writes:
C = int(
"28871482380507712126714295971303939919776094592797"
"22700926516024197432303799152733116328983144639225"
"94197780311092934965557841894944174093380561511397"
"4215424169339729054237110027510420801349667317"
"551528592269629167
On 3/25/2018 10:53 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
After following the thread for a while... you will, of course, simply
have to do a string to int conversion no matter what approach you take
to writing it. The number is a string of digits; it has to be converted
to the internal representation. Even i
On 25/03/2018 15:01, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
Am 25.03.18 um 14:32 schrieb bartc:
Using CPython on my machine, doing a string to int conversion that
specific number took 200 times as long as doing a normal assignment.
That conversion took 4 microseconds.
Not significant if it's only done o
On 03/25/2018 11:57 AM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
Something like this:
class C1(object):
...
class C2(object):
def __init__(self, parent=None):
self.parent = parent
Perhaps your email client is collapsing leading spaces but that isn't
what I wrote. The C2 class is supposed to be a m
On 03/25/2018 03:25 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/25/2018 7:42 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
class C2(object):
def __init__(self, parent=None):
self.parent = parent
Since parent is required, it should not be optional.
You can still call it the way you'd call it if it were a posit
ast writes:
> Hi
>
> I found this way to put a large number in
> a variable.
>
> C = int(
> "28871482380507712126714295971303939919776094592797"
> "22700926516024197432303799152733116328983144639225"
> "94197780311092934965557841894944174093380561511397"
> "42154241693397290542371100275104208
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 04:49:21 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 11:31:38 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by
>> little statesmen and philosophers and divines."
>> >
>> > Thus, i chose to abandon super
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 08:09:02 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 06:11:53 -0500, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
>>> It accesses the parent class. I want to access the parent object.
>>
>> Ah. Well, no wonder it doesn't work: you're confu
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 04:49:21 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
[...]
> Ruby is fundamentally _opposed_ to the idea of multiple inheritance --
> as MI is rife with issues (technical, practical, and intuitive in
> nature) and thus, not a wise solution -- but you would have known that
> Steven
I know that
On 3/25/2018 7:42 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
class C2(object):
def __init__(self, parent=None):
self.parent = parent
Since parent is required, it should not be optional.
def foo(self):
print("I am {self.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self=self))
self.par
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 04:49:21 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
>> - with no arguments, using the parenthesis-free syntax,
>> Ruby automagically forwards the same arguments to the (single)
>> parent;
>
> Which is merely a natural result of Ruby's function/method call syntax.
> Not allowing a parenthe
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 06:11:53 -0500, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
>> It accesses the parent class. I want to access the parent object.
>
> Ah. Well, no wonder it doesn't work: you're confusing the OO inheritance
> concept of "parent" (a superclass) w
Am 25.03.18 um 14:32 schrieb bartc:
Using CPython on my machine, doing a string to int conversion that
specific number took 200 times as long as doing a normal assignment.
That conversion took 4 microseconds.
Not significant if it's only done once. But it might be executed a
million times.
On 25/03/2018 02:47, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:05:56 +0100, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
[...]
yes, good idea
Not if you want to avoid that string to int conversion (as you stated).
That is still there, but in addition you now split the string into a
list and then join the list
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 05:57:40 -0500, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
> That was my original solution but it seems clumsy.
>
> O2 = O1.C2(O1)
Are you intentionally trying to melt my brain with horribly obfuscated,
meaningless names? If so, you've succeeded admirably millennium hand and
shrimp buggarit.
:-)
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 06:11:53 -0500, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
> On 03/24/2018 06:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 1:20:24 PM UTC-5, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
I tried various forms of super() but that didn't seem to work.
>>
>> Define "doesn't see to work".
>
> It accesses
On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 11:31:38 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:08:47 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
[...]
> >
> > the inconsistency of using super _outside_ of Tkinter code
> > whilst simultaneously using explicit inheritance _inside_
> > Tkinter code was quite frankl
Erratum: "I can select C2, or C3 and I'll have the instance created with
my choice"
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:17:59 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Jugurtha Hadjar
> wrote:
[...]
>> I prefer to *feed* the child to the parent or vice versa.
>
> Congrats, this ranks on my list of "creative people who sound like
> psycho murderers". Digital artists and
On 03/25/2018 11:17 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Jugurtha Hadjar
wrote:
On 03/24/2018 07:14 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
class C1(dict):
class C2(object):
def f(self):
return X['field']
O1 = C1()
O1['field'] = 1
O2 = O1.C2()
print(O2.f())
I prefer
On 03/24/2018 06:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 1:20:24 PM UTC-5, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
>>> I tried various forms of super() but that didn't seem to work.
>
> Define "doesn't see to work".
It accesses the parent class. I want to access the parent object.
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On 03/25/2018 05:10 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
> print("I am {self.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self=self))
Unrelated to the original issue but why not one of the following?
print("I am {0.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self))
print(f"I am {self.__class__.__name__} foo")
--
D'Arcy J
On 03/25/2018 04:37 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
> On 03/24/2018 07:14 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
>> class C1(dict):
>> class C2(object):
>> def f(self):
>> return X['field']
>>
>> O1 = C1()
>> O1['field'] = 1
>> O2 = O1.C2()
>> print(O2.f())
>
> I prefer to *feed* the child to the parent
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Jugurtha Hadjar
wrote:
> On 03/24/2018 07:14 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
>>
>> class C1(dict):
>>class C2(object):
>> def f(self):
>>return X['field']
>>
>> O1 = C1()
>> O1['field'] = 1
>> O2 = O1.C2()
>> print(O2.f())
>
>
> I prefer to *feed* the child
There was a typo in my original reply:
<>
class C1(object):
def __init__(self):
self.child = None
def foo(self):
print("I am {self.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self=self))
def adopt(self, child=N
On 03/24/2018 07:14 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
class C1(dict):
class C2(object):
def f(self):
return X['field']
O1 = C1()
O1['field'] = 1
O2 = O1.C2()
print(O2.f())
I prefer to *feed* the child to the parent or vice versa. Simplifies
things like testing.
Something like this:
<--
I am debugging a set of code which is something like this:
http://dpaste.com/1JXTCF0
I am not able to understand that what role internet object is playing and how I
can use/call it.
As debugging the code I got at line 10. I am sending a request to particular
API and returning a request_obje
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