Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 18:00, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:17 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> Most people just quietly change the filename and move on > > > There are over a billion people in China, almost a billion more in India, > about 140 million people

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 22:57, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> - and making band names look ǨØØĻ and annoy old fuddy- >> duddies. > > So now we've even included graffiti artists in our little > "inclusivity

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-30 Thread Mikhail V
On 30 March 2017 at 16:14, Steve D'Aprano <steve+pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 03:21 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 2:53:49 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-30 Thread Mikhail V
On 30 March 2017 at 07:43, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Rick Johnson > <rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 2:53:49 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:25 AM

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 21:53, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 26 March 2017 at 20:10, Steve D'Aprano <steve+pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: >>> On Mon, 2

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 20:10, Steve D'Aprano <steve+pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:57 am, Mikhail V wrote: > > [...] >>>> And more important: can one use binary (bitmap) fonts in default modern >>>> linux console? If ye

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 17:37, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:17 AM, Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Why? IIRC I can do good pseudographics on linux only with extended >>>> unicode character sets, so ye

Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 16:28, Wildman via Python-list <python-list@python.org> wrote: > On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 15:18:06 +0200, Mikhail V wrote: > >> On 26 March 2017 at 06:16, Wildman via Python-list >> <python-list@python.org> wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 M

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 06:16, Wildman via Python-list <python-list@python.org> wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:15:14 +0100, Mikhail V wrote: > >> And on linux console, by default one does not even have good >> possibilities for text-mode pseudographics, it was more relevant

Re: PEOPLE! PLEASE! [ WAS: Re: Who are the "spacists"? ]

2017-03-25 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 00:01, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 03/25/2017 01:40 PM, Gilmeh Serda wrote: >> So Python supports both spaces and tabs for indentation. >> >> People! >> >> This is as far from normal conversation about Python as it gets! >> >> Keep this shit to

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 16:42, Michael Torrie <torr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 03/21/2017 08:15 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> Didn't want to say this, but you know it was quite predictable from >> the beginning that >> the arguments will end up somewhere in "linux console is

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 22:40, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'd just tell one thing since I am a bit tired: if you wish, >> take an advice: avoid *any* monospaced fonts as plague

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 17:41, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > On Tuesday 21 March 2017 11:04:58 Mikhail V wrote: > >> On 21 March 2017 at 15:49, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> > On 2017-03-21, Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 15:49, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2017-03-21, Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Didn't want to say this, but you know it was quite predictable from >> the beginning that the arguments will end up somewhere in &

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 14:42, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Wildman : > >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 06:01:26 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Can you ask your workmates to elaborate? I'd love to hear. >> >> I would love to hear also. I've been using Linux for about 10

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-20 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 March 2017 at 16:19, BartC wrote: > On 20/03/2017 14:32, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:24 AM, BartC wrote: >>> >>> But it would be better IMO if tabs were used, with some scheme for >>> suggesting the tab width (or set of tab stops)

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 19 March 2017 at 22:54, Gregory Ewing <greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote: > Mikhail V wrote: >> >> Monospaced text rendering is an artifact, >> which exist on a very short time period in history. >> At best, one should just imagine it should not exist, and is

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 18 March 2017 at 22:50, Nathan Ernst wrote: > My issue with using spaces instead of tabs, is that, as mentioned earlier in > the thread, everyone has their own preferences on indentation. I've worked > on teams where different developers used 2, 3 & 4 spaces as

Re: Tabs are a security vulnerabilty [was Re: Who are the "spacists"?]

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 19 March 2017 at 01:32, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:30 am, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> tabs are a major security vulnerability and should be outlawed >> in all source code. > > > I've heard many arguments both in favour of and against tabs, but I've

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 19 March 2017 at 02:05, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Steve D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> Is it also ridiculous to use several newlines to space paragraphs >>> vertically? >> >> At least

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-18 Thread Mikhail V
> On 19 March 2017 at 01:39, Steve D'Aprano <steve+pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:24 am, Mikhail V wrote: >> >> I've noticed a tendency that more and more users >> choose tabs. >Have you really? I've noticed the opposite. Not *really*

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-18 Thread Mikhail V
On 18 March 2017 at 21:19, Bob Gailer <bgai...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 17, 2017 9:23 PM, "Mikhail V" <mikhail...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> So Python supports both spaces and tabs for indentation. >> >> I just wonder, why not forbid spaces

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-18 Thread Mikhail V
On 18 March 2017 at 16:54, Lutz Horn <lutz.h...@posteo.de> wrote: > Am 18.03.17 um 16:18 schrieb Mikhail V: >> On 18 March 2017 at 05:02, Ben Finney <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> >> wrote: >>> Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.com> writes: >>> &g

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-18 Thread Mikhail V
On 18 March 2017 at 05:02, Ben Finney <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.com> writes: > >> I think it would be a salvation to forbid spaces for indentation, did >> such attemps take place? > > Feel free to start your own discu

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-18 Thread Mikhail V
On 18 March 2017 at 03:09, Joel Goldstick <joel.goldst...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Mikhail V <mikhail...@gmail.com> wrote: >> So Python supports both spaces and tabs for indentation. >> >> I just wonder, why not forbid spaces in the beg

Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-17 Thread Mikhail V
So Python supports both spaces and tabs for indentation. I just wonder, why not forbid spaces in the beginning of lines? How would one come to the idea to use spaces for indentation at all? Space is not even a control/format character, but a word separator. And when editors will be proportional

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