Re: Generic dictionary

* Chris Angelico (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 23:35:52 +1100) > I see. So you want to be able to have something that looks and > feels > like a dictionary, but uses a different way of looking things up. > Makes reasonable sense, on the surface. > > Before you go down that route, I strongly recommend

Re: Generic dictionary

* Steve D'Aprano (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 22:40:19 +1100) > > Further thoughts come to mind, after looking more closely at your code. > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 08:27 pm, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > > def values(inst): > > if isinstance(inst._generic, dict):

Re: Generic dictionary

* Steve D'Aprano (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:10:08 +1100) > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 08:27 pm, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > > I'd like to extend the dictionary class by creating a class that acts > > like a dictionary if the class is instantiated with a dictionary and > > act

Re: Generic dictionary

* Anny Mous (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:46:25 +1100) > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 08:43 pm, Peter Otten wrote: > > > Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > > >> [Crossposted to tutor and general mailing list] > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'd like to e

Re: Generic dictionary

* Peter Otten (Sun, 20 Nov 2016 10:43:01 +0100) > > Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > > > I'd like to extend the dictionary class by creating a class that acts > > like a dictionary if the class is instantiated with a dictionary and > > acts like a "dictit

Generic dictionary

[Crossposted to tutor and general mailing list] Hi, I'd like to extend the dictionary class by creating a class that acts like a dictionary if the class is instantiated with a dictionary and acts like a "dictitem" ([(key1, value1), (key2, value2), ...]) if instantiated with a list (that is

Re: How to test for type or instance of dict_values?

* Peter Otten (Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:38:26 +0100) > > Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > > How can I test for type or instance of dictviews like dict_values? > > Why do you want to? Thanks, for the `collections.abc.ValuesView` tip. The code in question is part of an attempt

How to test for type or instance of dict_values?

How can I test for type or instance of dictviews like dict_values? `isinstance({}.values, dict_values)` gives `NameError: name 'dict_values' is not defined` """ >>> type({}.values()) """ Thorsten -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows: subprocess won't run different Python interpreter

* eryk sun (Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:55:23 +) > > If it works like cmd.exe, then it does its own search using %Path% > and %PathExt%. For example: > > C:\>cmd /c "set "PATH=" & cmd" > 'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command, > operable program or batch file. > >

Re: Windows: subprocess won't run different Python interpreter

* eryk sun (Fri, 11 Nov 2016 06:23:50 +) > > That's the application directory, which is the first place > CreateProcess looks (via the SearchPath call), as both of my examples > shows. In my case python.exe is located in the standard 3.5 system > installation path, "C:\Program

Re: Windows: subprocess won't run different Python interpreter

* Thomas Nyberg (Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:46:06 -0500) > > On 11/10/2016 05:32 PM, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > Yes. That works. But it's not like subprocess should work. > > > > It certainly is odd. I can at least confirm that when I try to run your > code I get the error t

Re: Windows: subprocess won't run different Python interpreter

* eryk sun (Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:04:02 +) > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Thorsten Kampe > <thors...@thorstenkampe.de> wrote: > > > > I'm trying to run a script with a different Python version by > > extending the path variable and executing "pyt

Re: Windows: subprocess won't run different Python interpreter

* Thomas Nyberg (Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:07:35 -0500) > > On 11/10/2016 04:58 PM, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to run a script with a different Python version by > > extending the path variable and executing "python.exe". It looks like &g

Windows: subprocess won't run different Python interpreter

Hi, I'm trying to run a script with a different Python version by extending the path variable and executing "python.exe". It looks like subprocess will always run the current executing Python. The following snippet demonstrates the problem: """ import os, subprocess os.environ['PATH'] = ''

Re: ConfigParser: use newline in INI file

* Ned Batchelder (Sat, 1 Oct 2016 17:41:28 -0700 (PDT)) > > On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 6:25:16 PM UTC-4, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > * Ben Finney (Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:12:46 +1100) > > > > > > Thorsten Kampe <thors...@thorstenkampe.de> writes: > > &

Re: ConfigParser: use newline in INI file

* Ben Finney (Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:12:46 +1100) > > Thorsten Kampe <thors...@thorstenkampe.de> writes: > > > ConfigParser escapes `\n` in ini values as `\\n`. Indenting solves the problem. I'd rather keep it one line per value but it solves the problem. Thorsten -- ht

Re: ConfigParser: use newline in INI file

* Terry Reedy (Sat, 1 Oct 2016 15:44:39 -0400) > > On 10/1/2016 10:56 AM, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > > ConfigParser escapes `\n` in ini values as `\\n`. Is there a way to > > signal to ConfigParser that there is a line break? > > Without an example or two, I don't rea

ConfigParser: use newline in INI file

Hi, ConfigParser escapes `\n` in ini values as `\\n`. Is there a way to signal to ConfigParser that there is a line break? Thorsten -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other si =?utf-8?Q?milar_things)_in_a_string??=

* Terry Reedy (Sun, 18 Sep 2016 03:51:40 -0400) > > On 9/18/2016 2:45 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > It doesn't matter whether you call them "accent" like most people do, or > > "diacritics" as linguists do. > > I am a native born American and I have never before heard or seen > non-accent

Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other si =?utf-8?Q?milar_things)_in_a_string??=

* Martin Schöön (17 Sep 2016 20:20:12 GMT) > > Den 2016-09-17 skrev Kouli : > > Hello, try the Unidecode module - https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Unidecode. > > > > Kouli > > > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Peng Yu wrote: > >> Hi, I want to convert strings in

Re: Is there something similar to `set -v` of bash in python

* Thorsten Kampe (Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:25:05 +0200) > > * Peng Yu (Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:31:37 -0500) > > > > Hi, `set -v` in bash allows the print of the command before print the > > output of the command. > > > > I want to do the similar thing --- print

Re: Is there something similar to `set -v` of bash in python

* Peng Yu (Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:31:37 -0500) > > Hi, `set -v` in bash allows the print of the command before print the > output of the command. > > I want to do the similar thing --- print a python command and then > print the output of the command. Is it possible with python? Rather easily.

Re: extending PATH on Windows?

* Ulli Horlacher (Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:38:44 + (UTC)) By the way: there is a script called `win_add2path.py` in your Python distribution which "is a simple script to add Python to the Windows search path. It modifies the current user (HKCU) tree of the registry.". That should do most of

Re: extending PATH on Windows?

* Ulli Horlacher (Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:38:44 + (UTC)) > > Thorsten Kampe <thors...@thorstenkampe.de> wrote: > > * Ulli Horlacher (Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:30:59 + (UTC)) > > > I need to extend the PATH environment variable on Windows. > > >

Re: extending PATH on Windows?

* Ulli Horlacher (Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:30:59 + (UTC)) > I need to extend the PATH environment variable on Windows. > > So far, I use: > >system('setx PATH "%PATH%;'+bindir+'"') > > The problem: In a new process (cmd.exe) PATH contains a lot of double > elements. As far as I have

Re: Run two processes in parallel

* Ian Kelly (Sun, 29 Mar 2015 03:13:31 -0600) On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote: I'd like to run two processes concurrently (either through a builtin module or a third-party). One is a background task and the other is displaying a spinner

Run two processes in parallel

Hi, I'd like to run two processes concurrently (either through a builtin module or a third-party). One is a background task and the other is displaying a spinner (for which I already found good packages). The two processes do not have to communicate with each other; only the second should be

[issue16786] argparse doesn't offer localization interface for version action

New submission from Thorsten Kampe: The - deprecated - version keyword for argparse.ArgumentParser allowed for localization of the show program's version number and exit help text for -v/--version (output of -h/--help) The new version action for add_argument does not allow this - resulting

Re: Usefulness of the not in operator

* candide (Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:41:11 +0200) After browsing source code, I realize that parenthesis are not necessary (not has higher precedence than in). Lower precedence. Thorsten -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pythonw.exe

* Chris Angelico (Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:52:05 +0100) On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Nobody nob...@nowhere.com wrote: BTW, unless you're using Windows 95/98/ME, you don't have a DOS Prompt. The command prompt in Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista/7 isn't DOS. I don't see this as any sloppier than

Re: Dialog boxes in curses

* f...@slick.airforce-one.org (13 Aug 2011 15:21:01 GMT) I want to have dialog boxes (a message with Yes/No/Cancel options, possibly with keyboard accels) in python + curses. Use Python Dialog[1] which is basically a wrapper for dialog boxes around ncurses. Thorsten [1]

Re: Inconsistencies with tab/space indentation between Cygwin/Win32?

* Christian Gelinek (Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:55:37 +0930) Any ideas on how to get the thing to run under (real) Windows, hopefully without having to edit existing sources of people who left our company ages ago? python -t Issue a warning when a source file mixes tabs and spaces for indentation in a

Re: [ANN] IPython 0.11 is officially out

* Fernando Perez (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:26:50 + (UTC)) on behalf of the IPython development team, I'm thrilled to announce, after more than two years of development work, the official release of IPython 0.11. This release brings a long list of improvements and new features (along with

Re: Deeply nested dictionaries - should I look into a database or am I just doing it wrong?

* Andrew Berg (Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:10:43 -0500) I'm looking for pointers on design. I'm inexperienced but cautious and am mostly wondering if there's an easier way to format this data or if this approach will lead to problems. The QueueItem.x264['avs']['filter']['fft3d']['ffte']) example does

Re: Deeply nested dictionaries - should I look into a database or am I just doing it wrong?

* Andrew Berg (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:36:43 -0500) On 2011.07.31 02:41 AM, Thorsten Kampe wrote: Another approach would be named tuples instead of dictionaries or flat SQL tables. What would the advantage of that be? QueueItem.x264['avs']['filter']['fft3d']['ffte'] would be QueueItem.x264

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* Anssi Saari (Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:28:49 +0300) Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de writes: The perfect programming font is just the one that looks so good that you would also use it for writing email. Dejavu Sans Mono is pretty good. Consolas looks also looks good

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* rantingrick (Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:51:02 -0700 (PDT)) 3) Tabs create freedom in the form of user controlled indention. Indention width should be a choice of the reader NOT the author. We should never code in indention width; but that is EXACTLY what we are doing with spaces! No, the reader

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* Andrew Berg (Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:29:30 -0500) Of everything I've read on tabs vs. spaces, this is what makes the most sense to me: http://www.iovene.com/61/ Interesting one, especially the - from the coder's point of view - artificial distinction between indentation and alignment. What is

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* Andrew Berg (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:36:31 -0500) Not everyone agrees on how many spaces an indent should be (whether an indent is a tab or a space-tab), which is a good reason to use tabs. Not everyone who doesn't agree on indent size actually cares enough about indent size - especially in

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* Andrew Berg (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 05:02:22 -0500) And if we work on a project together, we have to agree on formatting anyway, the indent size being the least important one. How is indent size unimportant with regard to formatting? Take some code or yours and format it with three and with six

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* Dotan Cohen (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:11:40 +0300) So long as the indentation lines up (which it does, with tabs or spaces) then I do not see any problem with variable-width. What are the counter-arguments? Alignment doesn't line up. Thorsten --

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:35:15 +0200) Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Andrew Berg (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 05:02:22 -0500) I still don't understand. Whitespace to the left of an assignment to signify an indent and whitespace around operators to align values (in a multi-line

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* gene heskett (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:29:03 -0400) On Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:28:16 AM Dotan Cohen did opine: I'm still looking for the perfect programming font. Suggestions welcomed. When you find it Dotan, let me know, I've been looking since the later '70's. The perfect programming

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* rantingrick (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:57:10 -0700 (PDT)) Choose to follow it or die of exceptions; your choice. One of the best things I've read for a long time :-). The past is bickering over selfish personal freedoms, the future of is unity. And a tab is *exactly* four spaces. Not three. Not

Re: Tabs -vs- Spaces: Tabs should have won.

* Dotan Cohen (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:20:15 +0300) On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 14:51, Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote: * Dotan Cohen (Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:11:40 +0300) So long as the indentation lines up (which it does, with tabs or spaces) then I do not see any problem

Re: An interesting beginner question: why we need colon at all in the python language?

* Dave Angel (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:36:48 -0400) On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Anthony Kong wrote: My immediate response is: it allows us to fit statements into one line. e.g. if a == 1: print a You're confusing the colon with the semi-colon. If you want two statements on the same line, you

Re: An interesting beginner question: why we need colon at all in the python language?

* Thomas Jollans (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:16:17 +0200) Basically, it looks better, and is more readable. People tend to overlook the colon for the same reason they tend to forget to set the colon in the first place: a) it's a very weak marker in comparison to indentation and b) it looks like

Re: An interesting beginner question: why we need colon at all in the python language?

* Steven D'Aprano (Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:07:17 +1000) Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Thomas Jollans (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:16:17 +0200) Basically, it looks better, and is more readable. People tend to overlook the colon for the same reason they tend to forget to set the colon in the first place

Re: An interesting beginner question: why we need colon at all in the python language?

* Grant Edwards (Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:03:22 + (UTC)) On 2011-07-13, Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote: and that that block is to be considered in relation to what was just said, before the colon. The indentation makes it abundantly clear to the human reader

Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python

* sturlamolden (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:44:22 -0700 (PDT)) On 11 Jul, 14:39, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: The Unix model is: a collection of general-purpose, customisable tools, with clear standard interfaces that work together well, and are easily replaceable without losing the

Re: Wgy isn't there a good RAD Gui tool fo python

* sturlamolden (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:21:37 -0700 (PDT)) On 11 Jul, 16:10, Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote: And as soon as developers start developing for Unix customers (say Komodo, for instance), they start following the Windows model - as you call it. You are probably

Re: Please Help with vertical histogram

* Cathy James (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:42:10 -0500) Please kindly help- i have a project where I need to plot dict results as a histogram. I just can't get the y- axis to print right. May someone please help? I have pulled my hair for the past two weeks, I am a few steps ahead, but stuck for now.

Re: String concatenation vs. string formatting

* John Gordon (Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:23:52 + (UTC)) I prefer this usage: logger.error('%s could not be stored - %s' % \ (self.preset_file, sys.exc_info()[1])) The syntax for formatting logging messages according to the documentation is: Logger.error(msg, *args) NOT

Re: windows 7 create directory with read write execute permission for everybody

* Gelonida (Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:53:15 +0200) On this machine I used os.mkdir() / os.makedirs() and I had permission problems , but only on Windows7. Windows file permissions haven't changed since 1995. The only addition was dynamic inheritance support back in 2000. I expect, that the win32

Re: windows 7 create directory with read write execute permission for everybody

* Gelonida (Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:32:45 +0200) One thing, which I would still like to know (though I don't need it for my current task) is what to do to to setup an ACE on a directory, such, that all entries below will inherit the directory's access settings. Such a thing does not exist.

Re: windows 7 create directory with read write execute permission for everybody

* Gelonida (Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:57:57 +0200) What do I have to do under python windows to create a directory with all permissions, such, that new files / directories created below will inherit the permissions. Exactly nothing (except creating the directory, of course). The reason I am asking

Re: how to write to registry without admin rights on win vista/7

* Andrew Berg (Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:02:54 -0500) On 2011.06.24 03:48 AM, Duncan Booth wrote: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/130763/request-uac-elevation-from-within-a-python-script Heh. On Windows 7, using 'runas' for the operation in os.startfile() gives me a normal UAC prompt. That is

Re: how to write to registry without admin rights on win vista/7

* miamia (Fri, 24 Jun 2011 01:08:55 -0700 (PDT)) In my program I can set to run after system startup (it writes path to Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run) Under HKLM oder HKCU? The path itself is of course irrelevant. but when normal user is logged in my application crashes.

Re: Python 2.7 and cmd on Windows 7 64 (files lost)

* Michel Claveau - MVP (Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:33:20 +0200) On Win 7 64 bits: Command-Line CD \Python27 dir C:\Windows\System32\SoundRecorder.exe:== OK Python.exe import os os.system(dir C:\\Windows\\System32\\SoundRecorder.exe) == Do not found the file !!! and

Re: Python 2.7 and cmd on Windows 7 64 (files lost)

* Tim Golden (Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:31:26 +0100) Certain commands, including dir and copy are not executables in their own right, but merely subcommands of cmd.exe. Right, internal commands. You've got two options in Python: os.system (rcmd /c dir c:\windows) os.system automatically

Re: how to avoid leading white spaces

* Roy Smith (Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:57:16 -0400) In article 94ph22frh...@mid.individual.net, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: On 2011-06-01, ru...@yahoo.com ru...@yahoo.com wrote: For some odd reason (perhaps because they are used a lot in Perl), this groups seems to have a great

Re: Beginner needs advice

* Thomas Rachel (Sat, 28 May 2011 07:06:53 +0200) Am 27.05.2011 17:52 schrieb Steven D'Aprano: On Fri, 27 May 2011 09:40:53 -0500, harrismh777 wrote: 3.x is completely incompatible with 2.x (some call it a dialect, but that is a lie). Completely incompatible? A lie? Hard word, but it

Re: Beginner needs advice

* Thorsten Kampe (Sat, 28 May 2011 08:38:54 +0200) My experience is: unless the code is especially written with Python3 compatability [...] Oops, I meant unless the code is specifically written with Python3 compatability in mind [...] Thorsten -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

* Steven D'Aprano (27 May 2011 03:07:30 GMT) Okay, I've stayed silent while people criticize me long enough. What exactly did I say that was impolite? Nothing. John threw down a distinct challenge: if Python is really so much better than Python [sic] readability wise, why do I

sys.tracebacklimit not working in Python 3.2?

Hi, type test.py import sys sys.tracebacklimit = 0 import doesnotexist python test.py ImportError: No module named doesnotexist python3 test.py Traceback (most recent call last): File test.py, line 4, in module import doesnotexist ImportError: No module named doesnotexist The 3.2

Re: changing current dir and executing a shell script

* suresh (Fri, 27 May 2011 14:25:52 -0700 (PDT)) I want to execute the following command line stuff from inside python. $cd directory $./executable I tried the following but I get errors import subprocess subprocess.check_call('cd dir_name;./executable') Due to filename path issues, I

[issue12193] Argparse does not work together with gettext and non-ASCII help text

Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de added the comment: LANG=de_De - should've been LANG=de_DE. Sorry for wasting someone's time. I shouldn't write bug reports in the middle of the night. Sorry and thanks, Thorsten -- resolution: - invalid status: open - closed

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

* John Bokma (Wed, 25 May 2011 07:01:07 -0500) Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de writes: * Chris Angelico (Wed, 25 May 2011 08:01:38 +1000) On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:39 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote: One of my favorite quotes (not sure if it was about Perl or APL

Re: English Idiom in Unix: Directory Recursively

* Steven D'Aprano (25 May 2011 21:59:58 GMT) On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:26:11 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote: Naming something in the terms of its implementation details (in this case recursion) is a classical WTF. *If* that's true, it certainly doesn't seem to apply to real-world objects

Re: English Idiom in Unix: Directory Recursively

* Steven D'Aprano (25 May 2011 22:58:21 GMT) On Wed, 25 May 2011 00:06:06 +0200, Rikishi42 wrote: What I mean is: I'm certain that over the years I've had more than one person come to me and ask what 'Do you wish to delete this directory recursively?' meant. BAut never have I been

Re: English Idiom in Unix: Directory Recursively

* Steven D'Aprano (26 May 2011 10:06:44 GMT) On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:48:07 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote: But not to digress, the /real/ problem with commands or idioms like rm -r is /not/ their choice of option names but that they explain these options in the exact same terms. No one

Re: English Idiom in Unix: Directory Recursively

* Charles (Thu, 26 May 2011 20:58:35 +1000) Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote in message news:mpg.284834d227e3acd1989...@news.individual.de... If someone has learned what a directory or folder is, you don't have to explain what include sub-folders means. Instead of creating

Re: English Idiom in Unix: Directory Recursively

* sal migondis (Thu, 26 May 2011 17:50:32 -0400) On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM, sal migondis salmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de It's unnecessary bullshit buzzword bingo from nerds which adds or helps or explains nothing. It's just that simple

[issue12193] Argparse does not work together with gettext and non-ASCII help text

New submission from Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de: Error with argparse and UTF-8 non-ASCII help text on Linux (works on Windows and on Linux with optparse): % LANG=de_De ./script.py --help Traceback (most recent call last): File ./script.py, line 26, in module args

[issue12193] Argparse does not work together with gettext and non-ASCII help text

Changes by Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de: -- type: - crash ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue12193 ___ ___ Python-bugs

[issue12193] Argparse does not work together with gettext and non-ASCII help text

Changes by Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de: Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file22139/script.de.po ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue12193

[issue12193] Argparse does not work together with gettext and non-ASCII help text

Changes by Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de: Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file22140/script.mo ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue12193

Re: English Idiom in Unix: Directory Recursively

* Rikishi42 (Wed, 25 May 2011 00:06:06 +0200) On 2011-05-24, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: I think that is a patronizing remark that under-estimates the intelligence of lay people and over-estimates the difficulty of understanding recursion. Why would

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

* Chris Angelico (Wed, 25 May 2011 08:01:38 +1000) On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:39 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote: One of my favorite quotes (not sure if it was about Perl or APL) is I refuse to use a programming language where the proponents of it stick snippets under each

Re: Customize help output from optparse (or argparse)

* Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn (Thu, 12 May 2011 22:22:20 +0200) Thorsten Kampe wrote: I'm using optparse for a little Python script. 1. The output from --help is: Usage: script.py arg script.py does something Options: -h, --help show this help message and exit I

Customize help output from optparse (or argparse)

Hi, I'm using optparse for a little Python script. 1. The output from --help is: Usage: script.py arg script.py does something Options: -h, --help show this help message and exit I would prefer to have the description before the usage, like... script.py does something Usage:

Re: How to capture all the environment variables from shell?

* Tim Chase (Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:42:24 -0500) On 07/26/10 21:26, Steven W. Orr wrote: Please! Never export anything from your .bashrc unless you really know what you're doing. Almost all exports should be done in your .bash_profile Could you elaborate on your reasoning why (or why-not)?

Re: is there a strawberry python?

* Daniel Fetchinson (Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:54:03 -0700) the reason I like strawberry perl is that I don't need to have admin right to install it. i can just unzip it and start the game. i am wondering if there is something similar in python community. any insight will be appreciated!

Re: Support for Windows 7 ?

* MRAB (Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:54:00 +0100) Pascale Mourier wrote: Martin v. Löwis a écrit : Without having seen any details, I refuse to guess. Most likely, it is a user mistake. YES IT IS! Sorry for the inconvenience. I usually start from this assumption. Yesterday this new

Re: An assessment of the Unicode standard

* r (Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:30:34 -0700 (PDT)) We don't support a Python group in Chinese or French, so why this? We do - you don't (or to be more realistic, you simply didn't know it). Makes no sense to me really. Like probably 99.9% of all things you hear, read, see and encounter during

Re: An assessment of the Unicode standard

* Neil Hodgson (Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:17:14 GMT) Chris Jones: I am not from these climes but all the same, I do find you tone of voice rather offensive, considering that you are referring to a culture that's about 3000 years older and 3000 richer than ours and certainly deserves our

Re: An assessment of the Unicode standard

* Chris Jones (Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:22:00 -0400) On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:07:17PM EDT, Neil Hodgson wrote: Sanskrit is mostly written in Devanagari these days which is also useful for selling things to people who speak Hindi and other Indian languages. Is the implication that the

Re: An assessment of the Unicode standard

* John Machin (Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:20:47 -0700 (PDT)) On Aug 30, 8:46 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote: Take for instance the Chinese language with it's thousands of characters and BS, it's more of an art than a language.  Why do we need such complicated languages in this day and time. Many

Re: (Simple?) Unicode Question

* Rami Chowdhury (Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:44:41 -0700) Further, does anything, except a printing device need to know the encoding of a piece of text? Python needs to know if you are processing the text. I may be wrong, but I believe that's part of the idea between separation of string and

Re: Colors on IDLE

* vsoler (Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:01:46 -0700 (PDT)) On Aug 29, 1:27 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried saving the files as MYScriptName.py? notice the py extension, very important ;) That was it!!! I see the colors again. Thank you. I suggest you start using familiar technical

Re: Scraping Wikipedia with Python

* Dotan Cohen (Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:29:40 +0300)    Wikipedia has an API for computer access.  See        http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API Yes, I am aware of this as well. Does anyone know of a python class for easily interacting with it, or do I need to roll my own.

Re: unicode() vs. s.decode()

* Steven D'Aprano (08 Aug 2009 03:29:43 GMT) On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:13:07 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote: One guy claims he has times between 2.7 and 5.7 seconds when benchmarking more or less randomly generated one million different lines. That *is* *exactly* nothing. We agree

Re: unicode() vs. s.decode()

* alex23 (Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT)) garabik-news-2005...@kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk wrote: I am not sure I understood that. Must be my English :-) I just parsed it as blah blah blah I won't admit I'm wrong and didn't miss anything substantive. Alex, there are still a number of

Re: unicode() vs. s.decode()

* garabik-news-2005...@kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk (Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:41:38 + (UTC)) Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote: If you increase the number of loops to one million or one billion or whatever even the slightest completely negligible difference will occur. The same

Re: unicode() vs. s.decode()

* Michael Ströder (Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:09:23 +0200) Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Steven D'Aprano (08 Aug 2009 03:29:43 GMT) But why assume that the program takes 8 minutes to run? Perhaps it takes 8 seconds to run, and 6 seconds of that is the decoding. Then halving that reduces the total

Re: unicode() vs. s.decode()

* alex23 (Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:53:22 -0700 (PDT)) Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote: Bollocks. No one will even notice whether a code sequence runs 2.7 or 5.7 seconds. That's completely artificial benchmarking. But that's not what you first claimed: I don't think any

Re: unicode() vs. s.decode()

* Michael Ströder (Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:25:03 +0200) Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Michael Ströder (Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:26:09 +0200) timeit.Timer(unicode('äöüÄÖÜß','utf-8')).timeit(1000) 17.23644495010376 timeit.Timer('äöüÄÖÜß'.decode('utf8')).timeit(1000) 72.087096929550171

Re: unicode() vs. s.decode()

* Steven D'Aprano (06 Aug 2009 19:17:30 GMT) On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:05:52 +0200, Thorsten Kampe wrote: That is significant! So the winner is: unicode('äöüÄÖÜß','utf-8') Unless you are planning to write a loop that decodes äöüÄÖÜß one million times, these benchmarks

Re: Is python buffer overflow proof?

* Neil Hodgson (Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:32:55 GMT) Thorsten Kampe: You cannot create your own buffer overflow in Python as you can in C and C++ but your code could still be vulnerable if the underlying Python construct is written in C. Python's standard library does now include unsafe

Re: unicode() vs. s.decode()

* Michael Ströder (Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:43:09 +0200) These both expressions are equivalent but which is faster or should be used for any reason? u = unicode(s,'utf-8') u = s.decode('utf-8') # looks nicer decode was added in Python 2.2 for the sake of symmetry to encode(). It's essentially

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