Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-08-02 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:19:05PM +0700, Lie Ryan wrote: But until the dictionary is rewritten, it is incorrect usage. That's complete nonsense, much like the rest of your argument. People use words all the time that aren't even IN a dictionary. Their absence from any dictionary makes them

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-31 Thread Ross Ridge
Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It gets even worse... No Windows-based PC has ever used the PowerPC processor -- which had been a staple of the Macintosh before they went Intel... Actually the were personal computers sold using PowerPC processors that ran Windows NT. I even

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-30 Thread Antoon Pardon
On 2008-07-21, Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:56:07AM -0700, Lie wrote: On Jul 19, 6:14=A0am, Derek Martin [EMAIL

RE: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-22 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
From: Derek Martin The term PC is commonly used in English, in the United States and other English speaking countries, to mean a computer running Microsoft Windows. That isn't quite true. My kids are heading off to college and are in the market for laptops. The question they had for

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-22 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 02:47:31PM -0700, Lie wrote: Common usage isn't always correct. Actually it is, inherently... When usage becomes common, the language becomes redefined, and its correctness is therefore true by identity (to borrow a mathematical term). The scholars complain for a

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-22 Thread Lie Ryan
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 18:50 -0400, Derek Martin wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 02:47:31PM -0700, Lie wrote: Common usage isn't always correct. Actually it is, inherently... When usage becomes common, the language becomes redefined, and its correctness is therefore true by identity (to

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-21 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:34:41PM -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:14:43 -0400, Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote: Calling Windows PC seems to be something that

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-21 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0700, Lie wrote: The term PC is commonly used in English, in the United States and other English speaking countries, to mean a computer running Microsoft Windows. As far as I am aware, they're like that because most people aren't even aware that there

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-21 Thread Lie
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 16:45 -0400, Derek Martin wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0700, Lie wrote: The term PC is commonly used in English, in the United States and other English speaking countries, to mean a computer running Microsoft Windows. As far as I am aware, they're

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-19 Thread Lie
On Jul 19, 6:14 am, Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote: Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so they would not have to directly mention Windows. Actually it's something IBM did when they created the IBM PC.

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-07-19, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:14:43 -0400, Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote: Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-19 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Grant Edwards schrieb: Not that I remember. I had a homebrew S-100 bus system, worked with varioius Commodore machines, My C64 has a label that says Personal Computer on it. So a C64 is a PC. Sebastian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-19 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:02:51 -0500, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-19, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which term applied to the TRS-80, the Apple II, Altair even... Not that I remember. I had a homebrew S-100 bus system, worked with varioius Commodore machines, a few Apples,

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-19 Thread Duncan Booth
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:02:51 -0500, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-07-19, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which term applied to the TRS-80, the Apple II, Altair even... Not that I remember. I had a homebrew S-100 bus system,

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-19 Thread Michiel Overtoom
On Saturday 19 July 2008 22:30:29 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: I still wonder who came up with the Commodore PET -- Personal Electronic Transactor... yeesh... But the Personal was already in play way back then. Probably Chuck Peddle, Jack Tramiel or Leonard Tramiel. For your amusement:

Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-18 Thread Joel Teichroeb
In trunk of the svn there is a folder called PCbuild. Now lets say that I am running linux on my Personal Computer and want to build python. I go into the PCbuild directory, but wait. This is for windows not for any personal computer. Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-18 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:46:13PM -0700, Joel Teichroeb wrote: Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so they would not have to directly mention Windows. Actually it's something IBM did when they created the IBM PC. Of course, all IBM PCs ran MS-DOS, since that's how IBM

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so they would not have to directly mention Windows. Could all the places that say PC that are not referring to Personal Computers in general be changed to Win or Windows. That's bikeshedding. If the name stops you from building your

Re: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-07-18, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Calling Windows PC seems to be something that Apple did so they would not have to directly mention Windows. Could all the places that say PC that are not referring to Personal Computers in general be changed to Win or Windows. That's