Tim Johnson writes:
> * Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]:
>> Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more
>> emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick to it so I
>> can get a fast workflow. Eventually I will learn
On Wednesday 04 January 2017 12:10, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 03Jan2017 12:57, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>>I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text editors, I prefer a traditional
>>GUI-based editor. So my "IDE" is:
>>- Firefox, for doing searches and looking up
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:10:04 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
> On 04.01.2017 07:54, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> > Unfortunately most of the time I am still using print and input functions.
I know that sucks, I did not use the pdb module, I guess that IDE debuggers
leverage
On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 12:32:19 PM UTC-8, fpp wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Chris Clark
> > wrote:
> >> I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say
> >> windows.
> >> Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not
On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 9:51:17 AM UTC-8, ArnoB wrote:
> On 02-01-17 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor
should I use. This can be overwhelming.
> >
> > So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Chris Clark
> wrote:
>> I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say
>> windows.
>> Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not licensed.
>> Atom, loved it until it slowed down.
>> VIM, ok the best if you
On 06.01.2017 09:40, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
So why not use the debugger interactively to develop
applications. As long as one sets the breakpoints in a meaningful way so you
can trace your code in a very productive way. Is that what you mean by
interactive environment?
Well, not
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:10:04 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
> On 04.01.2017 07:54, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> > Unfortunately most of the time I am still using print and input functions.
> > I know that sucks, I did not use the pdb module, I guess that IDE debuggers
> >
On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 9:51:17 AM UTC-8, ArnoB wrote:
> On 02-01-17 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor
> > should I use. This can be overwhelming.
> >
> > So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with
On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 12:32:19 PM UTC-8, fpp wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Chris Clark
> > wrote:
> >> I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say
> >> windows.
> >> Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not
On 04.01.2017 07:54, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> Unfortunately most of the time I am still using print and input functions. I
know that sucks, I did not use the pdb module, I guess that IDE debuggers
leverage such module.
pdb is actually quite useful. On my Windows PCs I can invoke python on
> On Jan 4, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger
wrote:
>
> On 04.01.2017 15:41, William Ray Wing wrote:
>> I use Wing, and I think you will like it. It *is* pythonic, and for what it
is worth, offers remote debugging as one of its more recently added features.
>
On 04.01.2017 15:41, William Ray Wing wrote:
> I use Wing, and I think you will like it. It *is* pythonic, and for what it
is worth, offers remote debugging as one of its more recently added features.
Obviously, you had no other choice than using Wing ;-)
The remote debugging has been around
On Montag, 2. Januar 2017 03:38:53 Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor
> should I use. This can be overwhelming.
>
> So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm,
> IntelliJ with Python plugin.
Well,
* Paul Rudin [170103 23:17]:
> Tim Johnson writes:
>
> > * Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]:
> >> Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more
> >> emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick
> On Jan 4, 2017, at 1:54 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia
wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 4:12:34 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
>> On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
>> You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less like a spacecraft. Maybe you
>>
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 4:12:34 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
> On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less like a spacecraft. Maybe you
> like it.
> Maybe the difference is that Wing is from Python people while the ones
> you
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 5:42:34 AM UTC+5:30, Dietmar Schwertberger
wrote:
> On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> > The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ,
Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that unwarranted
On Wednesday 04 January 2017 12:10, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 03Jan2017 12:57, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>>I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text editors, I prefer a traditional
>>GUI-based editor. So my "IDE" is:
>>- Firefox, for doing searches and looking up
Tim Johnson writes:
> * Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]:
>> Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more
>> emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick to it so I
>> can get a fast workflow. Eventually I will learn
On 03Jan2017 12:57, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text editors, I prefer a traditional
>GUI-based editor. So my "IDE" is:
>- Firefox, for doing searches and looking up documentation;
>- an GUI programmer's editor, preferably one with a
On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ,
Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that unwarranted
resources consumption and the unnecessary icons. You did not try Wing IDE? It
looks less
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Chris Clark
> wrote:
>> I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say
>> windows.
>> Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not licensed.
>> Atom, loved it until it slowed down.
>> VIM, ok the best if you
Chris Clark :
> I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say
> windows.
I use emacs for all of my typing, including Python programming (and
making this post).
Marko
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> Subject: Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation?
> I do not know what to choose.
>
>
>
> On 02-01-17 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE
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On 02-01-17 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wr
On 02-01-17 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor should
I use. This can be overwhelming.
So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, IntelliJ
with Python plugin.
The thing with the
> On Jan 4, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger
> wrote:
>
> On 04.01.2017 15:41, William Ray Wing wrote:
>> I use Wing, and I think you will like it. It *is* pythonic, and for what it
>> is worth, offers remote debugging as one of its more recently added
On Montag, 2. Januar 2017 03:38:53 Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor
> should I use. This can be overwhelming.
>
> So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm,
> IntelliJ with Python plugin.
Well,
On 04.01.2017 15:41, William Ray Wing wrote:
I use Wing, and I think you will like it. It *is* pythonic, and for what it is
worth, offers remote debugging as one of its more recently added features.
Obviously, you had no other choice than using Wing ;-)
The remote debugging has been around
On 04.01.2017 07:54, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
Unfortunately most of the time I am still using print and input functions. I
know that sucks, I did not use the pdb module, I guess that IDE debuggers
leverage such module.
pdb is actually quite useful. On my Windows PCs I can invoke python
* Paul Rudin [170103 23:17]:
> Tim Johnson writes:
>
> > * Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]:
> >> Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more
> >> emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick
> On Jan 4, 2017, at 1:54 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia
> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 4:12:34 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
>> On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
>> You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less like a spacecraft. Maybe you
Tried every python ide going, they either grind to a halt or just look messy.
Best one I ever used and stick with is drpython, years old, probably not
maintained but does everything I want at a blistering speed and just looks
perfect.
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:41 AM +, "Antonio Caminero
Tim Johnson writes:
> * Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]:
>> Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more
>> emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick to it so I
>> can get a fast workflow. Eventually I will learn
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 4:12:34 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
> On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less like a spacecraft. Maybe you
> like it.
> Maybe the difference is that Wing is from Python people while the ones
> you
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 5:42:34 AM UTC+5:30, Dietmar Schwertberger
wrote:
> On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> > The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ,
> > Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that
> >
On Wednesday 04 January 2017 12:10, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 03Jan2017 12:57, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>>I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text editors, I prefer a traditional
>>GUI-based editor. So my "IDE" is:
>>- Firefox, for doing searches and looking up
On 03Jan2017 12:57, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text editors, I prefer a traditional
GUI-based editor. So my "IDE" is:
- Firefox, for doing searches and looking up documentation;
- an GUI programmer's editor, preferably one with a
On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ,
Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that unwarranted
resources consumption and the unnecessary icons.
You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less
* Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]:
> Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more
> emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick to it so I
> can get a fast workflow. Eventually I will learn Vim and its
> python developing setup, I know
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 6:39:03 AM UTC-5, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor
> should I use. This can be overwhelming.
>
> So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, IntelliJ
> with Python
Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more emphasizing in
learning in depth a tool and get stick to it so I can get a fast workflow.
Eventually I will learn Vim and its python developing setup, I know people who
have been programming using Vim for almost 20 years and they
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 5:57:51 PM UTC-8, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:38 pm, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
>
> > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor
> > should I use. This can be overwhelming.
>
> Linux is my IDE.
>
>
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:38 pm, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor
> should I use. This can be overwhelming.
Linux is my IDE.
https://sanctum.geek.nz/arabesque/series/unix-as-ide/
I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text
* Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 02:50]:
<>
> Now, I am thinking about giving a try to Visual Studio Code
> Edition (take a look, it sounds good
> https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=donjayamanne.python).
> I need an editor for professional software
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 8:24:29 AM UTC-8, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 01/02/2017 04:38 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> > The problem with Vim is the learning curve, so I know the very basic
> > stuff, but obviously not enough for coding and I do not have time to
> > learn it, it is a
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia <
tonycam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse,
IntelliJ, Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that
unwarranted resources consumption and the unnecessary icons. I want
On 02Jan2017 21:30, Matt Wheeler wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 at 16:24 Michael Torrie wrote:
Really, the basic stuff is enough to be very productive in vim. In fact
just knowing how to save and quit is half the battle! A little cheat
sheet for vim by your
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 at 16:24 Michael Torrie wrote:
> Really, the basic stuff is enough to be very productive in vim. In fact
> just knowing how to save and quit is half the battle! A little cheat
> sheet for vim by your keyboard would be plenty I think. If all you knew
> was
On 2-1-2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ,
> Pycharm)
> is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that unwarranted resources
> consumption and the unnecessary icons. I want my IDE to be minimalistic but
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia <
tonycam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor
> should I use. This can be overwhelming.
>
> So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm,
> IntelliJ with
On 01/02/2017 04:38 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote:
> The problem with Vim is the learning curve, so I know the very basic
> stuff, but obviously not enough for coding and I do not have time to
> learn it, it is a pity because there are awesome plugins that turns
> Vim into a lightweight
I'd recommend you be willing to put in the time and effort to learn the
tools you want to use, if you want to do professional software
development. Pick one, use it for a month (at least 100+ hours of hands on
keyboard coding). Sublime, Vi are great for Python, since Python doesn't
require as
Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor should
I use. This can be overwhelming.
So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, IntelliJ
with Python plugin.
The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ,
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