On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 01:10:19 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> If Nikos wants to write programs that communicate using internet
>> protocols, Nikos really needs to learn where internet protocols are
>> defined, how to read and interpret those protocol definitions, and how
>> to check that the data
Op 10-10-13 03:10, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 00:31:06 +, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>
>> If Nikos can't even figure out the right queries to feed into a search
>> engine to get started on such matters as looking at the cookie jar in a
>> browser or enabling cookie logging on a s
On 10/10/2013 00:48, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> So, for the benefit of anyone, not just Nikos, who wants to learn about
> how browsers connect to web sites and how to run a web server, does
> anyone have any recommendation for tutorials, mailing lists, web forums
> or books which are suitable? Pre
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:01:25 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> There are limits to how much disruption and obstinacy this community
> should tolerate from a given individual.
I think we are in violent agreement :-)
It's possible we disagree about where to draw the line, and whether
persistent clueless
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:36:54 -0700, rusi wrote:
> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:40:19 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>>
>> I have no objection to encouraging people to read the fine manual, and
>> I don't intend to be Nikos' (or anyone else's) unpaid full-time help
>> desk and troublesho
rusi writes:
> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:40:19 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > If *anyone else* asked for help on these sorts of network and
> > browser questions, we'd give them more constructive pointers than
> > just "google it".
Someone who has so consistently demonstrated thei
On 10/10/2013 06:36, rusi wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:40:19 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I have no objection to encouraging people to read the fine manual, and I
don't intend to be Nikos' (or anyone else's) unpaid full-time help desk
and troubleshooter. But I do think it is si
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:40:19 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> I have no objection to encouraging people to read the fine manual, and I
> don't intend to be Nikos' (or anyone else's) unpaid full-time help desk
> and troubleshooter. But I do think it is simply unfair to treat him m
On 10/10/2013 02:28, Chris Angelico wrote:
Half an hour spent reading there will pay
good dividends.
That's been sadly lacking in all of these threads. With responses
coming back faster than a ball on the centre court at Wimbledon, it's
hardly surprising that progress has been conspicious
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 00:31:06 +, Denis McMahon wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:48:12 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:06:05 +, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>
Find the relevant forums and ask in them.
>>>
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 00:31:06 +, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:48:12 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:06:05 +, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>
>>> Find the relevant forums and ask in them.
>>
>> In fairness to Nikos, that may not be an easy thing to do. I
In article <5255eb3c$0$29984$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> So, for the benefit of anyone, not just Nikos, who wants to learn about
> how browsers connect to web sites and how to run a web server, does
> anyone have any recommendation for tutorials, mailing lists
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> So, for the benefit of anyone, not just Nikos, who wants to learn
> about how browsers connect to web sites and how to run a web server,
> does anyone have any recommendation for tutorials, mailing lists, web
> forums or books which are suitable? Preferably things you ha
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:48:12 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:06:05 +, Denis McMahon wrote:
>
>> Find the relevant forums and ask in them.
>
> In fairness to Nikos, that may not be an easy thing to do. I for one
> have *no idea* where to find an appropriate forum to lea
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> So, for the benefit of anyone, not just Nikos, who wants to learn about
> how browsers connect to web sites and how to run a web server, does
> anyone have any recommendation for tutorials, mailing lists, web forums
> or books which are su
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:06:05 +, Denis McMahon wrote:
> Find the relevant forums and ask in them.
In fairness to Nikos, that may not be an easy thing to do. I for one have
*no idea* where to find an appropriate forum to learn about these sorts
of web basics. comp.protocol.http doesn't exist
On 09/10/2013 23:03, Joel Goldstick wrote:
Expire is not the issue here, as i have it is working with no problem.
when i print the cookie expiration time is calculated properly.
Something else is going worng.
Indeed!
Well explained here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_error
--
Roses
>
> Expire is not the issue here, as i have it is working with no problem.
> when i print the cookie expiration time is calculated properly.
> Something else is going worng.
>
Indeed!
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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http://joelgoldstick.com
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Στις 9/10/2013 9:36 μμ, ο/η Piet van Oostrum έγραψε:
Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος writes:
# initialize cookie and retrieve cookie from clients browser
cookie = cookies.SimpleCookie( os.environ['HTTP_COOKIE'] )
if cookie.get('ID') is not None:
cookieID = cookie['ID'].value
else:
cookieID
On 09/10/2013 20:26, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2013-10-09 19:28, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 09/10/2013 19:06, Denis McMahon wrote:
Find the relevant forums and ask in them.
Why am I thinking of this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_Hole_in_My_Bucket ?
There's a bug in my program, dear newsgr
On 2013-10-09 19:28, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 09/10/2013 19:06, Denis McMahon wrote:
>> Find the relevant forums and ask in them.
>
> Why am I thinking of this
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_Hole_in_My_Bucket ?
There's a bug in my program, dear newsgroup, dear newsgroup,
There's a b
Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος writes:
>
> # initialize cookie and retrieve cookie from clients browser
> cookie = cookies.SimpleCookie( os.environ['HTTP_COOKIE'] )
>
> if cookie.get('ID') is not None:
> cookieID = cookie['ID'].value
> else:
> cookieID = random.randrange(0, )
> cookie['I
On 09/10/2013 19:06, Denis McMahon wrote:
Find the relevant forums and ask in them.
Why am I thinking of this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_Hole_in_My_Bucket ?
--
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Most poems rhyme,
But this one doesn't.
Mark Lawrence
--
https://mail.python.org/
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:00:28 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 9/10/2013 5:43 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:52:44 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>> Στις 8/10/2013 10:29 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>>
Have you checked the cookie jar in the browser to see w
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:00:28 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 9/10/2013 5:43 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:52:44 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>> Στις 8/10/2013 10:29 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>>
Have you checked the cookie jar in the browser to see w
On 09/10/2013 16:00, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
ok so then tell me where i should ask this.
Google, bing, duckduckgo, ask, yahoo ...
--
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Most poems rhyme,
But this one doesn't.
Mark Lawrence
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος
wrote:
> Στις 9/10/2013 5:43 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>
>> On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:52:44 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>> Στις 8/10/2013 10:29 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>>
>>
Have you checked the cookie jar in the browser to see
Στις 9/10/2013 5:43 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:52:44 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
Στις 8/10/2013 10:29 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
Have you checked the cookie jar in the browser to see what value the
cookie has? Is that the value you think it should have? Note
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 11:24:35 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Please someone esle try to reproduce the problem by just using cgi and
> not mod_wsgi.
I have no intention of reconfiguring my web server just to prove that
your code isn't working. We already know that your code isn't working.
--
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:52:44 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 8/10/2013 10:29 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>> Have you checked the cookie jar in the browser to see what value the
>> cookie has? Is that the value you think it should have? Note that
>> checking the cookie jar is a browser to
On 09/10/2013 09:24, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
You have been told repeatedly that your questions have nothing to do
with Python, e.g. Ben Finney just over an hour ago "None of this has to
do with Python. Please do not ask this Python doscussion forum to
educate you on how HTTP operates."
Plea
Στις 9/10/2013 4:33 πμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:52:44 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
Is there something i can try to isolate the problem and make it work?
Of course there is. That is part of the job of the developer: hard work
trying dozens, maybe hundreds of diffe
Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος writes:
> When a user hits my link on another website, for exmaple they are on
> ypsilandio.gr and they hit the link of superhost.gr then a new entry
> with a new cookie is appearing into my visitors table!
>
> Where is the old cookie that was saved in my browser so it will get
On 08/10/2013 23:52, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
Is there something i can try to isolate the problem and make it work?
As you are the problem why not try solitary confinement? :)
--
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Most poems rhyme,
But this one doesn't.
Mark Lawrence
--
https://mail.python.
Στις 9/10/2013 7:53 πμ, ο/η Ian Kelly έγραψε:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
Also i have set:
ookie['ID']['expires'] = 60*60*24*365 #this cookie will expire in
a year
The Expires attribute takes a date. If you're passing an interval in
seconds then you sho
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Also i have set:
> ookie['ID']['expires'] = 60*60*24*365 #this cookie will expire in
> a year
The Expires attribute takes a date. If you're passing an interval in
seconds then you should use the Max-Age attribute instead.
That
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:52:44 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Is there something i can try to isolate the problem and make it work?
Of course there is. That is part of the job of the developer: hard work
trying dozens, maybe hundreds of different things until you isolate the
problem. There ar
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:47:14 -0400, Joel Goldstick wrote:
> Yes! there is a very simple and comprehensive way to learn about your
> visitors. Use Google Analytics. Its free, you only need a google
> account to open an analytics account.
http://images.wikia.com/darkheresy/images/0/0c/Its_a_trap.
On 10/8/13 6:52 PM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
Στις 8/10/2013 10:29 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:04:37 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
Can you help me with this particuler problem please?
Unfortunately I can't, because I am unable to reproduce the problem you
describe.
Στις 8/10/2013 10:29 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:04:37 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
Can you help me with this particuler problem please?
Unfortunately I can't, because I am unable to reproduce the problem you
describe.
When I load my test page in the browser, then
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:04:37 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Can you help me with this particuler problem please?
Unfortunately I can't, because I am unable to reproduce the problem you
describe.
When I load my test page in the browser, then replace it with something
else by entering an addr
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος
wrote:
> Στις 8/10/2013 6:55 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>
>> On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:04:34 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>> I use this code to retrive or set a cookie to the visitor's browser if
>>> present and identify him bu it.
>>
>>
Br
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Is there any better way to identif a previous visitor? i tried cookies which
> failed for me for the reason i opened this thread and host like follows:
>
> # try to locate the visitor
> cur.execute('''SELECT
Is there any better way to identif a previous visitor? i tried cookies
which failed for me for the reason i opened this thread and host like
follows:
# try to locate the visitor
cur.execute('''SELECT * FROM visitors WHERE counterID = %s and host =
%s''', (cID, host) )
Στις 8/10/2013 6:55 μμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:04:34 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
I use this code to retrive or set a cookie to the visitor's browser if
present and identify him bu it.
You are aware that using cookies to track a user who doesn't want to be
tracked
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:04:34 +0300, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> I use this code to retrive or set a cookie to the visitor's browser if
> present and identify him bu it.
You are aware that using cookies to track a user who doesn't want to be
tracked won't work, because he'll just tell his browser
Στις 8/10/2013 2:08 μμ, ο/η Ian Kelly έγραψε:
This question is really about HTTP, not Python, so you'd have better
luck asking elsewhere. The most likely possibility is that the domain
doesn't match. For example, the cookie is set for the domain
www.foo.com, and the other webpage is linking to
Στις 8/10/2013 2:08 μμ, ο/η Ian Kelly έγραψε:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
I use this code to retrive or set a cookie to the visitor's browser if
present and identify him bu it.
All work well except the situation where the user visits my webpage by
clicking a backli
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> I use this code to retrive or set a cookie to the visitor's browser if
> present and identify him bu it.
>
> All work well except the situation where the user visits my webpage by
> clicking a backlink on another wbpage.
>
> Then for some
# initialize cookie and retrieve cookie from clients browser
cookie = cookies.SimpleCookie( os.environ.get('HTTP_COOKIE') )
if cookie.get('ID') is not None:
cookieID = cookie['ID'].value
else:
cookieID = random.randrange(0, )
cookie['ID'] = cookieID
cookie['ID'
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