Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-24 Thread cl
Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote: Monte Milanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: Aaaannnd here we have a good example of why it would be really nice to be able to filter/score based on the message *body*, not just the headers. 8( Actually, here we have the reason why Usenet died.

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-23 Thread Sturla Molden
Monte Milanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: Aaaannnd here we have a good example of why it would be really nice to be able to filter/score based on the message *body*, not just the headers. 8( Actually, here we have the reason why Usenet died. --

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Anssi Saari
memilanuk memila...@gmail.com writes: I'm on Ubuntu (14.04 LTS, if it matters) and I've been using Thunderbird for a lng time... I've tinkered with slrn off and on over the years, tried pan occasionally due to recommendations... but I keep ending up back @ Thunderbird. About the only

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Anssi Saari
Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net writes: Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com: Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. Well, here you are at URL: news:comp.lang.python, in the middle of all that noise. Besides,

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Martin S
Aye I found a couple of groups that are still active. Most of it seems to be a digital ghost town though. A bit sad, I was once actively involved in setting up the se. * hierarchy. /martin s On 22 Jul 2014, Anssi Saari a...@sci.fi wrote: Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net writes: Martin S

Re: OT: usenet reader software

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Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Neil D. Cerutti
On 7/22/2014 11:14 AM, Anssi Saari wrote: I don't really know about about html and slrn since I don't see much of it but links in a terminal application is usually something for the terminal to handle. I run Gnus on a remote machine and use a local terminal for display, Konsole in Linux and

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Monte Milanuk
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Re: OT: usenet reader software

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Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Monte Milanuk
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Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Monte Milanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: Other people posting from google groups are not malicious/trolls/jerks/spammers - and honestly until I started using slrn again, I didn't understand what all the fuss was about - gui news readers like Thunderbird handle

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-22 Thread Grant Edwards
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Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-21 Thread Paul Rudin
Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com writes: c...@isbd.net wrote: That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news reader. The problem was that Thunderbird does not support killfiles when used as a newsreader. Leafnode adds filtering capabilities which Thunderbird

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-21 Thread Martin S
I'm trying gnus again, and immediately see the beauty of it. Actually Usenet is fast and commercial free, and easier to secure from prying NSA etc al (?) so maybe it will receive a general revival eventually. /martin s On 21 Jul 2014, Paul Rudin paul.nos...@rudin.co.uk wrote: Sturla Molden

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-21 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-21, Paul Rudin paul.nos...@rudin.co.uk wrote: Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com writes: c...@isbd.net wrote: That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news reader. The problem was that Thunderbird does not support killfiles when used as a newsreader.

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-20 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-20, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Ctrl-X in Angband, Ah-HAH! I've been trying to remember what the name was of an old CLI game that I used to play via a dialup ssh connection (using PuTTY) to a Panix.com account (they ran on NetBSD). Screen was my friend due to dropped

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Monte Milanuk memila...@invalid.com wrote: On 2014-07-20, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Ctrl-X in Angband, Ah-HAH! I've been trying to remember what the name was of an old CLI game that I used to play via a dialup ssh connection (using PuTTY) to a

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com: Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. Well, here you are at URL: news:comp.lang.python, in the middle of all that noise. Marko --

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com: Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. Well, here you are at URL: news:comp.lang.python, in the middle of

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com: Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. Well, here you are at URL:

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com: Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: There's a lot of hot air but I have yet to encounter spam. That means you have good filtering. Interesting. Who's filtering comp.lang.python? Marko --

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: There's a lot of hot air but I have yet to encounter spam. That means you have good filtering. Interesting. Who's

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: Interesting. Who's filtering comp.lang.python? Possibly your provider, possibly your client, hard to say. But I'm pretty confident you do NOT see all the spam that goes through, because

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread cl
memilanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? If slrn was a maybe then there's also tin for text mode news readers, it's what I have always used. I don't know what it does with HTML as none

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread cl
Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote: Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? leafnode That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news reader. -- Chris Green ยท --

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Sturla Molden
Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. news.gmane.org can be a convinient way to read mailing lists instead of getting tons of mail. Sturla --

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Sturla Molden
c...@isbd.net wrote: That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news reader. The problem was that Thunderbird does not support killfiles when used as a newsreader. Leafnode adds filtering capabilities which Thunderbird (supposedly) does not have. Sturla --

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/07/2014 23:38, Sturla Molden wrote: c...@isbd.net wrote: That doesn't address the problem at all! :-) You still need a news reader. The problem was that Thunderbird does not support killfiles when used as a newsreader. Leafnode adds filtering capabilities which Thunderbird

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Martin S
From what I've seen so far it's more like your limited standard mail filtering tool. IIRC when I used Usenet much gnus on Emacs had much more powerful capabilities. /martin s On 20 Jul 2014, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 19/07/2014 23:38, Sturla Molden wrote:

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Martin S
From what I've seen so far it's more like your limited standard mail filtering tool. IIRC when I used Usenet much gnus on Emacs had much more powerful capabilities. /martin s On 20 Jul 2014, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 19/07/2014 23:38, Sturla Molden wrote: c...@isbd.net

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-19, Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelm ed signal by a factor of something close to 542. Martin, Fair enough question. Seems like a lot of usenet groups have become spam-fests, and using it to d/l various

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 2014-07-19, c...@isbd.net c...@isbd.net wrote: memilanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? If slrn was a maybe then there's also tin for text mode news readers, it's what I have

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Monte Milanuk memila...@invalid.com wrote: That said, the irony that there seems to be a distinct *lack* of GUI usenet reader programs for Linux just kills me. Seems like its either Pan, or knode if you're into KDE. Otherwise... you get to go dredge up old CLI

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Monte Milanuk memila...@invalid.com wrote: For whatever reason I never really tried tin (or trn). I might have to give them a whirl... though I must say that using slrn seems kind of like riding a bicycle... my fingers apparently remember more than my brain

OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread memilanuk
Given the ongoing hub-bub about Google Groups and some recent long threads where I *really* wanted to be able to mute/ignore certain individuals/subjects... I started looking into other choices for Usenet reader software again. I use news.gmane.org as a mail2news gateway for reading a lot of

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
memilanuk memila...@gmail.com: Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? I use GNUS under emacs for both news and mail. Its main selling point is that the same keyboard commands work for news, mail, Python, C, gdb, pdb,

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2014.07.18 14:10, memilanuk wrote: I'm on Ubuntu (14.04 LTS, if it matters) and I've been using Thunderbird for a lng time... I've tinkered with slrn off and on over the years, tried pan occasionally due to recommendations... but I keep ending up back @ Thunderbird. About the only

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Warren Post
On 07/18/2014 01:10 PM, memilanuk wrote: ... is there anything out there worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? You've already tried them, but I bounce between Thunderbird and Pan. The former because it's integrated with the most of the rest of my messaging (mail, RSS); the latter for

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread alister
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:10:02 -0700, memilanuk wrote: Given the ongoing hub-bub about Google Groups and some recent long threads where I *really* wanted to be able to mute/ignore certain individuals/subjects... I started looking into other choices for Usenet reader software again. I use

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Sturla Molden
Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? leafnode -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread memilanuk
On 07/18/2014 12:34 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2014.07.18 14:10, memilanuk wrote: I'm on Ubuntu (14.04 LTS, if it matters) and I've been using Thunderbird for a lng time... I've tinkered with slrn off and on over the years, tried pan occasionally due to recommendations... but I keep ending

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Paul Rudin
memilanuk memila...@gmail.com writes: Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? emacs/gnus. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread memilanuk
On 07/18/2014 01:46 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: Guess where I'm going with this is... is there anything out there worth trying - on Linux - that I'm missing? leafnode Used leafnode way back when... correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves its a small news spool /server, not really a

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Sturla Molden
memilanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: Used leafnode way back when... correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves its a small news spool /server, not really a client/reader type application. Used to be popular back before slrnpull came about. Leafnode is an NNTP proxy server. It allows you

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread memilanuk
On 07/18/2014 02:45 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: memilanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: Used leafnode way back when... correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves its a small news spool /server, not really a client/reader type application. Used to be popular back before slrnpull came about.

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Martin S
Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. (Just curiou) /martin s On 18 Jul 2014, memilanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/18/2014 02:45 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: memilanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: Used

Re: OT: usenet reader software

2014-07-18 Thread Ben Finney
Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com writes: Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542. My experience is quite the opposite; Usenet discussions are far easier to filter for useful content than e.g. Google Groups. So that's