JZ wrote:
I think Django is more mature than Subway or CherryPy and can quickly
become the black horse in area of pythonic frameworks.
I'm not familiar with this expression. What do you mean by black horse?
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:06:21 -0300, Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not familiar with this expression. What do you mean by black
horse?
That will help me too :)
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of pythonic frameworks (black horse on yellow
background being the symbol of Ferrari).
That's what I thought of first when I tried to parse the sentence ;-)
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Dnia Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:06:21 -0400, Peter Hansen napisał(a):
I think Django is more mature than Subway or CherryPy and can quickly
become the black horse in area of pythonic frameworks.
I'm not familiar with this expression. What do you mean by black horse?
I meant dark horse. Sorry for
Gerhard Haering wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:06:21AM -0400, Peter Hansen wrote:
I'm not familiar with this expression. What do you mean by black horse?
Maybe the Ferrari of pythonic frameworks (black horse on yellow
background being the symbol of Ferrari).
I know there are black sheep
Peter Hansen wrote:
Gerhard Haering wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:06:21AM -0400, Peter Hansen wrote:
I'm not familiar with this expression. What do you mean by black horse?
Maybe the Ferrari of pythonic frameworks (black horse on yellow
background being the symbol of Ferrari).
I
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote:
I read the expression Dark horse contender many times, and i guess it
has some reminiscence from medieval times and the cavalry stories.
It meaning is something like the unknown that could be the new champ,
someone intriguing and mysterious who doesn't unveil its skills
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote:
Peter Hansen wrote:
Gerhard Haering wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:06:21AM -0400, Peter Hansen wrote:
I'm not familiar with this expression. What do you mean by black horse?
Maybe the Ferrari of pythonic frameworks (black horse on yellow
background being the
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:21:37 -0300, Jeff Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Don't discard Zope 3 becaue of what you've heard about Zope 2. Zope 3
is a very different animal.
Are Zope 3's learning curve + speed of development a lot faster than
previous versions?
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Zope 3, far and away. There's great documentation, quite a few load
handling options (different types of caching and ZEO to distribute ZODB
caches to multiple machines). Zope 3 aggressively favors small
cooperating objects (Zope 2 was inheritance heavy, making
customization, extension, etc, a big
Admin wrote:
I am doing some research for a Python framework to build web applications.
I have discarted Zope because from what I've read, the learning curve is
too steep, and it takes more time to build applications in general with
Zope.
I've heard many good things about Zope 3, although
On 2005-07-17, Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I favor speed of development, intensive OO development, performance under
heavy load, short learning curve, good documentation and community.
I like the design of nevow (nevow.com), but I don't have any practical
experiences with other
I am doing some research for a Python framework to build web applications.
I have discarted Zope because from what I've read, the learning curve is
too steep, and it takes more time to build applications in general with
Zope.
I have kept the following:
- PyWork -
Admin enlightened us with:
But I'd like to know your opinion on what you think is best. The
Python framework I'll use will be to build an e-commerce
application looking like Amazon.com
I'm greatly in favour of Cheetah. Also see
http://www.unrealtower.org/mycheetah. I need to put up way more
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:15:49 -0300, Sybren Stuvel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.unrealtower.org/mycheetah
Error 404 while looking up your page AND when looking for a suitable
404
page. Sorry!
No such file /var/www/www.unrealtower.org/compiled/error404.py
I can't
I really like Karrigell ( http://karrigell.sourceforge.net ).
It is, IMHO, the most pythonic framework because all you need to know
is the python language.
You don't need to learn any template or special language, you only use
plain and regular python.
It also gives you a lot of freedom when
http://cheetahtemplate.org/
Admin wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:15:49 -0300, Sybren Stuvel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.unrealtower.org/mycheetah
Error 404 while looking up your page AND when looking for a suitable 404
page. Sorry!
No such file
the php backend and my python port running
as cgi-bin).
That looks like an interesting application/component.
My question is this: moinmoin runs on many python web backends
(cgi-bin/mod-python/twisted/standalone). My spell-checker backend runs
as cgi (disclaimer: I've done a bit of php and java
Thanks Paul-
I'll look into WebStack.
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is this: moinmoin runs on many python web backends
(cgi-bin/mod-python/twisted/standalone). My spell-checker backend runs
as cgi (disclaimer: I've done a bit of php and java(struts) web app
programming, but the last python related web programming I did was Zope
about 5 years ago (does that even count
FWIW there's dos2unix program that fixes this on most systems.
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From: Bill Mill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:55 AM
To: Daniel Bickett
Cc: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Yet Another Python Web Programming Question
Python using CGI
Daniel Bickett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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snip
It was his opinion that
web programming should feel no different from desktop programming.
snip
Should that ever become even remotely possible -
I'll be interested in web programming myself.
Thomas Bartkus
Python using CGI, for example, was enough for him until he started
getting 500 errors that he wasn't sure how to fix.
A common error is that python cgi files need line endings to be in
unix text file format, not windows text file format (\n instead of
\r\n) [1]. Why this is, I don't know, but
Daniel Bickett wrote:
I neglected to mention an important fact, and that is the fact that I
am limited to Apache, which elminates several suggestions (that are
appreciated none-the-less).
Do you have access to mod_python, mod_rewrite, FastCGI, or SCGI? Then
CherryPy 2.1 is still a great option
Daniel Bickett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
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I neglected to mention an important fact, and that is the fact that I
am limited to Apache, which elminates several suggestions (that are
appreciated none-the-less).
Limited to Apache is not the same as using apache in a
Robert Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Daniel Bickett wrote:
I neglected to mention an important fact, and that is the fact that I
am limited to Apache, which elminates several suggestions (that are
appreciated none-the-less).
Do you have access to
Paul Boddie wrote:
Robert Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Daniel Bickett wrote:
I neglected to mention an important fact, and that is the
fact that I am limited to Apache, which elminates several
suggestions (that are appreciated none-the-less).
Daniel Bickett enlightened us with:
It would be a long while before he would find Python, and since that
time he would have no desire to ever touch PHP again.
My thoughts exactly.
He would, however, be compelled to write a web application again,
but in Python now, of course.
Same here :)
This post started as an incredibly long winded essay, but halfway
through I decided that was a terribly bad idea, so I've trimmed it
down dramatically, and put it in the third person (for humor's sake).
Once upon a time a boy named Hypothetical programmed in PHP and made
many a web application.
Take some time to learn one of the web frameworks. If your host doesn't
already have it, ask your host if they would consider adding it.
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Daniel Bickett wrote:
He would read the documentation of Nevow, Zope, and Quixote, and would
find none of them to his liking because:
* They had a learning curve, and he was not at all interested, being
eager to fulfill his new idea for the web app. It was his opinion that
web programming
Daniel Bickett wrote:
He would read the documentation of Nevow, Zope, and Quixote, and would
find none of them to his liking because:
* They had a learning curve, and he was not at all interested, being
eager to fulfill his new idea for the web app. It was his opinion that
web programming
Try Karrigell ( http://karrigell.sourceforge.net ).
And let me know what you think...
Cheers,
Luis
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Daniel Bickett wrote:
Python using CGI, for example, was enough for him until he started
getting 500 errors that he wasn't sure how to fix.
Every time you mention web applications on this list, there will
necessarily be a flood of My Favourite Framework Is X posts.
But you* sound like you
I neglected to mention an important fact, and that is the fact that I
am limited to Apache, which elminates several suggestions (that are
appreciated none-the-less).
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Medium/small site with mod_python and sqllite or mySQL running Python
2.3.3 or later on Apache 2.x.
I can do the python and CGI, but might need a _little_ hand holding for
the rest.
Will also need SSL and a certificate.
Also mailboxes for ~12 people (to start). We don't do unsolicited
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked about Python hosting
I have been *very* happy with Hard Hat Hosting
(http://hardhathosting.com).
(I don't have any connection with them, other than being a satisfied
customer for several years.)
If you want more providers you might be interested in
I am looking for a python robot that Van Rossum released with python
0.9.8. It may have been the first web robot (see
http://www.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q1/0060.html).
I've had no luck finding the code for the robot or the 0.9.8 tarball.
Can anyone help me out?
Thanks.
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Matthijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have been trying to make a script that will download several rss
feeds to my computer. The only problem I have is that I have to go
through a proxy.
First I tried using urllib (python 2.4, win32) but I found that the
http_proxy and no_proxy code were not
I have been trying to make a script that will download several rss feeds
to my computer. The only problem I have is that I have to go through a
proxy.
First I tried using urllib (python 2.4, win32) but I found that the
http_proxy and no_proxy code were not implemented for win32. I have made
I should implement a simple http/database page, based on python. I read some texts and it´s strange how python deal with html output. It´s something like Servlet... is there any diferent way to do that? Something like just bussiness code, applied in an MVC framework, or just like it. Thanks and
kanzen wrote:
I keep telling my friends that Python rocks. Now it's time to put my
money where my mouth is. I'm about to start writing a server for a
phone based game. It needs to handle simlpe requests from some Java
code running on the phone at a fairly low transaction rate. There will
also
Larry Bates wrote:
[...] You might want to take a look a Medusa. It is the basis for the
web server that is bundled in Zope.
Medusa is just an asyncore framework, and not something you can develop
web apps with.
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Okay, thanks for your suggestions. Are there any further
recommendations as to what Python framework to use if the web server is
Apache with mod_python?
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snip
- Does threading cause any more of a hassle in Python than Java?
snip
Hello,
From the python docs, it states that the threading design is loosely
based upon the java module. Certainly, coming from Java I had little
trouble getting used to python threading. However heres some
I keep telling my friends that Python rocks. Now it's time to put my
money where my mouth is. I'm about to start writing a server for a
phone based game. It needs to handle simlpe requests from some Java
code running on the phone at a fairly low transaction rate. There will
also be a simple web
kanzen wrote:
- Does threading cause any more of a hassle in Python than Java?
What hassles have you had? I thought threads in Java
were pretty straightforward. In any case, in Python
they are generally very easy to use, provided you have
a basic knowledge of thread safety issues and/or provided
kanzen wrote:
I keep telling my friends that Python rocks. Now it's time to put my
money where my mouth is. I'm about to start writing a server for a
phone based game. It needs to handle simlpe requests from some Java
code running on the phone at a fairly low transaction rate. There will
also be a
kanzen wrote:
I keep telling my friends that Python rocks. Now it's time to put my
money where my mouth is. I'm about to start writing a server for a
phone based game. It needs to handle simlpe requests from some Java
code running on the phone at a fairly low transaction rate. There will
also be a
Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] said :
This is exactly the kind of summary that I think should be in a
WebProgrammingShootOut (see another one of my postings in this thread)
but I failed to find such a summary. Thanks, Brian! Anyone can add
to the list?
I myself am also into (very) simple web
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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If you're just trying to get a conceptual understanding of web
programming, I suggest you start with cgi.
Next you might want to read Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing:
http://philip.greenspun.com/panda/
Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This matches pretty much what I've decided to do. I'll start with cgi and
CGIHTTPServer because I'll learn more from that and then move to a
framework, quite likely CherryPy, although by that time I may change my
choice. Philip Greenspun's book looks
You might also want to try out Spyce.
http://spyce.sourceforge.net/index.html
It works in proxy mode, with mod_python, or even as cgi.
Some examples:
http://spyce.sourceforge.net/eg.html
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You might also look at the docs for HTML::Mason (www.masonhq.com) to
get a look at a reasonably mature template system, even if you don't
plan to use it (because it's in Perl and not Python). I'm not sure
if
CherryPy is directly comparable. I haven't yet used any of the
Python
template
At 8:51 AM -0800 2/4/05, Paul Rubin wrote:
Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This matches pretty much what I've decided to do. I'll start with cgi and
CGIHTTPServer because I'll learn more from that and then move to a
framework, quite likely CherryPy, although by that time I may change my
On 03 Feb 2005 22:31:43 -0800, rumours say that Paul Rubin
http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] might have written:
[Dan Perl thinks about publishing to the web a script that could be misused by
spammers, so Paul advises him to watch out.]
There used
to be some similar perl scripts running all over the
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Basically, what I'm looking for is a web server that accepts an HTTP
request and invokes a python script. But I would like a pythonic
solution so a web server like Apache is a
M.E.Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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I am no web expert but have recently used cherrypy to 'webify' a
script. It is very easy to get going and has its own server or can be
run behind Apache.
The only real problem I see is that the docs are still a little lite
Dan Perl:
The application is just something I'm playing with to learn a little
bit on
web apps. It uses an HTML form to send an email. The form takes
inputs
like the From:, To: and Subject: fields and a text field.
It is difficult to beat CGI + CGIHTTPServer for conceptual simplificity
and
Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The application is just something I'm playing with to learn a little bit on
web apps. It uses an HTML form to send an email. The form takes inputs
like the From:, To: and Subject: fields and a text field.
Be careful of exposing that script to the
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The application is just something I'm playing with to learn a little bit
on
web apps. It uses an HTML form to send an email. The form takes inputs
like the From:, To: and
Michele Simionato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Dan Perl:
The application is just something I'm playing with to learn a little
bit on
web apps. It uses an HTML form to send an email. The form takes
inputs
like the From:, To: and Subject: fields and a text
Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Be careful of exposing that script to the internet. Spammers will
exploit it.
Do you mean publishing the script for other people to copy it or exposing
the web app so that other people may access it?
I mean installing the script on a server where
Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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From my experience, this appears to be the order from low-level to
high-level interfaces:
1. mod_python: As complex as you need it to be, since you can control
anything about the request response process. But more
Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is exactly the kind of summary that I think should be in a
WebProgrammingShootOut (see another one of my postings in this
thread) but I failed to find such a summary. Thanks, Brian! Anyone
can add to the list?
If you're just trying to get a conceptual
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:47:53 +, andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody like to comment on which editor they use for python web app
development - for both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
I use DrPython, because:
It is open source, written in python and wxPython and use
Emacs
For both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
There's no reason to use anything else.
Although I tested and will keep testing other editors/ide, I also went
back to emacs and am quite happy with it. However, I sometimes use
snavigator
Anybody like to comment on which editor they use for python web app
development - for both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
I'm comfortable with IDLE (used it for years) but of course it lacks ftp
or webDAV abilities, obviously because it's not intended for that type
of use
Try to use Eclipse + pydev
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:47:53 +, andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody like to comment on which editor they use for python web app
development - for both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
I'm comfortable with IDLE (used it for years
to comment on which editor they use for python web app
development - for both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
I'm comfortable with IDLE (used it for years) but of course it lacks ftp
or webDAV abilities, obviously because it's not intended for that type
of use.
I've had
to comment on which editor they use for python web app
development - for both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
I'm comfortable with IDLE (used it for years) but of course it lacks ftp
or webDAV abilities, obviously because it's not intended for that type
of use.
I've had
I only use Windows and I only ever use Textpad. It gives nice syntax
highlighting, indentation and you can run your script with it too.
andy wrote:
Anybody like to comment on which editor they use for python web app
development - for both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
I'm
how about editplus ?
imho it's excelent
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:47:53 +, andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody like to comment on which editor they use for python web app
development - for both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
I'm comfortable with IDLE (used
andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anybody like to comment on which editor they use for python web app
development -
Emacs
For both discrete and mixed python and html code, and why?
There's no reason to use anything else.
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