Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-11-06 Thread alphadog
On Oct 5, 4:13 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another way is to de-activate UAC. Please don't be stupid! How about a compromise: Disable UAC. Install Python for all. Re-

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-11-06 Thread Steve Holden
alphadog wrote: On Oct 5, 4:13 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another way is to de-activate UAC. Please don't be stupid! How about a compromise: Disable UAC. Install Python

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I'm not a developer, just a lowly end user. I'm not in a position to be able to fix anything. All I can do is report it and if it's legitimate, then hopefully someone who knows what he's doing will fix it. Ok. It's then still unfortunate that nobody reported the problem; your message to

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I know for a fact that the implementation is incomplete. In Windows Installer, there is no way (that I know of) to create an MSI file that conditionally turns on UAC, only when the installation actually needs privilege elevation. You cannot turn on (or turn off) UAC for a single application

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-10 Thread Michael Shih
no mind ! bad vista ... -- From: Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 2:28 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista? I'm not a developer, just a lowly end user. I'm

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:47:54 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:18:10 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Mensanator (Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:58:24 -0700 (PDT)) On Oct 7, 12:40 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:18:10 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Mensanator
On Oct 9, 12:36 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mensanator (Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:58:24 -0700 (PDT)) On Oct 7, 12:40 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:18:10 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote:

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Mensanator (Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT)) On Oct 9, 12:36 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mensanator (Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:58:24 -0700 (PDT)) On Oct 7, 12:40 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:18:10 +1300) In

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Mensanator
On Oct 9, 2:09 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mensanator (Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT)) On Oct 9, 12:36 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mensanator (Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:58:24 -0700 (PDT)) On Oct 7, 12:40 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Jerry Hill
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Mensanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine. Can you then see to it that this is mentioned on the Python download page? I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it in all of the invective, but the right thing to do is to report a bug on http://bugs.python.org. If the

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I say, ignore this advice and disable UAC. Fine. Can you then see to it that this is mentioned on the Python download page? I think Thorsten's advice is helpful (in the sense that it solves the problem, and is IMO pragmatic also), but I *still* wouldn't put it on the Python download page,

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Martin v. Löwis
You can believe what you want. The people who developed UAC don't have to support it. I know for a fact that the implementation is incomplete. In Windows Installer, there is no way (that I know of) to create an MSI file that conditionally turns on UAC, only when the installation actually needs

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Martin v. Löwis (Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:32:42 +0200) I say, ignore this advice and disable UAC. Fine. Can you then see to it that this is mentioned on the Python download page? I think Thorsten's advice is helpful (in the sense that it solves the problem, and is IMO pragmatic also), I

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Mensanator
On Oct 9, 4:41 pm, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can believe what you want. The people who developed UAC don't have to support it. I know for a fact that the implementation is incomplete. In Windows Installer, there is no way (that I know of) to create an MSI file that

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I posted a problem with Vista on Jul 6 concerning not being able to run IDLE in 2.6b1. No replies. Where did you post that? On python-dev? What am I supposed to do? File bug reports on things I don't even know are bugs? You mean, it might have been intentional that IDLE won't run on Vista?

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Martin v. Löwis (Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:41:44 +0200) You can believe what you want. The people who developed UAC don't have to support it. I know for a fact that the implementation is incomplete. In Windows Installer, there is no way (that I know of) to create an MSI file that

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Mensanator
On Oct 9, 5:48 pm, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted a problem with Vista on Jul 6 concerning not being able to run IDLE in 2.6b1. No replies. Where did you post that? On python-dev? No, right here on comp.lang.python. I don't even know what you're referring to. What am

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-09 Thread Craig Allen
as a 20 year observer of microsoft, I have to say this is not amazing at all... and I do not mean that as a random put down of Microsoft. Microsoft often develops things in response to demand... but they don't always fit in their system well, and thus are not really used in the spirit of the

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-07 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:18:10 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another way is to de-activate UAC.

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-07 Thread Mensanator
On Oct 7, 12:40 pm, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:18:10 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-07 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Roberts wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-07 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:18:10 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote:

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-07 Thread Steve Holden
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:18:10 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-07 Thread Steve Holden
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: [...] Is that why Dimdows device drivers are so crap? Because they're written by people like you, who think they know better than Microsoft? Why the hostility? Dimdows device drivers are crap because they live in a crap operating system. Which the majority of computer

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-06 Thread Steve Holden
Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another way is to de-activate UAC. Please don't be stupid! He's not stupid. Disabling UAC is the recommended way to get rid of these

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-06 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another way is to de-activate UAC. Please don't be stupid! He's not stupid. Disabling UAC is the

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-06 Thread Tim Roberts
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another way is to de-activate UAC. Please don't be stupid!

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-05 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another way is to de-activate UAC. Please don't be stupid! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-05 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Lawrence D'Oliveiro (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:13:46 +1300) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci wrote: Another way is to de-activate UAC. Please don't be stupid! He's not stupid. Disabling UAC is the recommended way to get rid of these problems. Thorsten --

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-04 Thread Michel Claveau - NoSpam SVP ; merci
Hi! Another way is to de-activate UAC. @-salutations -- Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-02 Thread process
i just downloaded 2.6 and when running the gui nothing happens. anyone else with the same problem? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 2, 2:27 pm, process [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just downloaded 2.6 and when running the gui nothing happens. anyone else with the same problem? I have no idea what gui you're referring to. However, when I try to run Python on vista, I get: The application has failed to start because

Re: Python 2.6, GUI not working on vista?

2008-10-02 Thread Mensanator
On Oct 2, 1:27 pm, process [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just downloaded 2.6 and when running the gui nothing happens. I assume you mean IDLE won't run. anyone else with the same problem? Yes. Here's how I fixed it: First of all, there's a note on the Python page that says quote Vista Note