Re: Defamation

2015-10-23 Thread John O'Hagan
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:19:14 +0200 Laura Creighton wrote: > One thing to recall is that 'who/what can be defamed' > varies a lot. In Sweden you cannot defame a corporation. The > defamation regulations in the Penal Code only apply to private > individuals. If you cannot

Re: Defamation

2015-10-23 Thread John O'Hagan
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:19:14 +0200 Laura Creighton wrote: > One thing to recall is that 'who/what can be defamed' > varies a lot. In Sweden you cannot defame a corporation. The > defamation regulations in the Penal Code only apply to private > individuals. If you cannot

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM, John O'Hagan wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100 > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > >> I don't believe that the Python mailing list archives are hosted in a >> country under the jurisdiction of European Law. If I'm

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread John O'Hagan
On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I don't believe that the Python mailing list archives are hosted in a > country under the jurisdiction of European Law. If I'm right, then > removing posts sets a dangerous precedent of obeying laws in foreign >

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 22 October 2015 at 09:05, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM, John O'Hagan wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100 >> Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> >>> I don't believe that the Python mailing list archives

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 22 October 2015 at 12:36, Laura Creighton wrote: > > The UK libel reform act of 2013, I see, may be responsible for > the decline in libel tourism. > http://www.libelreform.org/ Yes I think so. From Wikipedia: """ A court does not have jurisdiction to hear and determine any

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
The UK libel reform act of 2013, I see, may be responsible for the decline in libel tourism. http://www.libelreform.org/ Laura -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:33:13 +0100, Oscar Benjamin writes: >I have a feeling that something may have changed recently but >certainly until a few years ago we used to have lots of cases of >"libel tourism" in the UK. This is where someone decides to bring a >libel case which has

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread John O'Hagan
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:05:04 +1100 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM, John O'Hagan [...] > > > > For better or worse, that's not how defamation law works. Generally, > > the defaming is regarded as happening where the material is

Re: Defamation

2015-10-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45 am, John O'Hagan wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100 > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > >> I don't believe that the Python mailing list archives are hosted in a >> country under the jurisdiction of European Law. If I'm right, then >> removing

Re: Defamation

2015-10-21 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:30:35 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:44 am, Laura Creighton wrote: >> No, we are removing them because we want to. > >Who are "we"? You're not talking about *you and me*. Anybody who was involved in deciding whether or not to remove

Re: Defamation

2015-10-21 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
> According to Ralf, python.org is hosted in the Netherlands, One could change that. > I want to buy peanut butter, but I don't, because I know that when it comes > to peanut butter I have no self-control and would eat the entire jar in a > single sitting. So I simply don't buy it in the first

Re: Defamation

2015-10-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/21/2015 2:53 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:30:35 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:44 am, Laura Creighton wrote: No, we are removing them because we want to. Who are "we"? You're not talking about *you and me*. Anybody who was

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Laura Creighton : > Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a > year ago we were requested to remove, and did. European Law may > require us to do so. I checked, and this article wasn't one on > our list, which is why we missed this one. Note that

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:28 am, Laura Creighton wrote: > >> Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a >> year ago we were requested to remove, and did. European Law may >> require us to do so. I

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:44 am, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:09:18 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >>On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:28 am, Laura Creighton wrote: >> >>> Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a >>> year ago we were requested to

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:28 am, Laura Creighton wrote: > Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a > year ago we were requested to remove, and did. European Law may > require us to do so. I checked, and this article wasn't one on > our list, which is why we missed this

Re: Defamation

2015-10-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Steven D'Aprano : > On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:28 am, Laura Creighton wrote: > > > Actually, this one was part of a huge set of defaming articles sent a > > year ago we were requested to remove, and did. European Law may > > require us to do so. I checked, and this article

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list wrote: > Please remove the page > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/678498.html That page is just spam that someone sent to the newsgroup/mailing list. You can ignore it, same as the

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list >> wrote: >>> Please remove the page >> >> That page is just spam that someone sent

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Michael Torrie
On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list > wrote: >> Please remove the page > > That page is just spam that someone sent to the newsgroup/mailing > list. You can ignore it, same as the rest of us do. > >

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ian Kelly : > Which is the same thing the OP was told the last time he posted a > removal request publicly to this list. I do note that the subject of > the previous request appears to have since been removed. > > I've taken the liberty of forwarding this request on to >

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:14:14 +1100, Chris Angelico writes: >On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list > wrote: >> Please remove the page >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/678498.html > >That page is just spam

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:36:37 -0600, Michael Torrie writes: >On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list >> wrote: >>> Please remove the page >> >> That page is just spam that someone sent to

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: >>Even if the page were to be removed, the same content has already been >>posted to myriad news servers the world over, many of which archive >>all posts. There's no way to remove it from everywhere. >> >>ChrisA > >

Re: Defamation

2015-10-19 Thread Tim Golden
On 19/10/2015 17:29, Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:36:37 -0600, Michael Torrie writes: On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list wrote: Please remove the page That page

Re: Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread Ben Finney
silvagni gabriele.silv...@tiscali.it writes: Please remove the page: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html Thank You Gabriele Silvagni You have given no motivation for us to do so. A bald request to remove a message is unlikely to be actioned. Also, you

Re: Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/3/2015 12:37 PM, silvagni wrote: Please remove the page: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html Thank You Gabriele Silvagni You can try sending mail to python-list-ow...@python.org, but it will not do much good. Even if a post could be removed from

Re: Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread Paul Arrington
On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 18:37:33 +0200, silvagni wrote: Please remove the page: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html Thank You Gabriele Silvagni This is a primarily a Usenet group, (Google that term), and is hosted by a distributed network of servers, and

Re: Defamation

2015-04-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/04/2015 17:37, silvagni wrote: Please remove the page: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html Thank You Gabriele Silvagni I mark all of these as offensive on google groups. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what