On 20/05/2024 10:58, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
On 2024-05-20 00:26:03 +0200, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
Skip Montanaro via Python-list schreef op 20/05/2024 om 0:08:
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local?
I'm on Manjaro
Of course, I'm not here to tell you how to use your computer, and it's
great that you're using Linux, but I'd suggest that you look into
installing Arch Linux proper.
Arch Linux isn't as difficult as people make it out to be (I'd argue
that anyone who's had to deal with the
On 2024-05-20 00:26:03 +0200, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
> Skip Montanaro via Python-list schreef op 20/05/2024 om 0:08:
> > > Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
> >
> > Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing
> > to
On 5/19/2024 6:00 PM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote:
Am Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:45:09PM +0100 schrieb Barry via Python-list:
On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
wrote:
I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block
On 5/19/2024 6:34 PM, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-05-19, Barry via Python-list wrote:
On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
wrote:
I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
On 5/19/2024 6:08 PM, Skip Montanaro via Python-list wrote:
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing
to run it as root.
I honestly haven't tried. Maybe I should... 樂 I have an old laptop
On 2024-05-19, Barry via Python-list wrote:
>
>
>> On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
>
> Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
You can't even use pip to do "user" installs?
On 2024-05-19, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
>
>> I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
>> I install stuff and it just works.
>
> Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that.
>
> I'm on Manjaro, which is a tad finicky about other
Skip Montanaro via Python-list schreef op 20/05/2024 om 0:08:
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
>
Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing
to run it as root.
I assumed pip install --user would work, but no. I tried it (on
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
>
Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing
to run it as root.
I honestly haven't tried. Maybe I should... 樂 I have an old laptop running
XUbuntu 22.04 which I generally only use to compile the
Am Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:45:09PM +0100 schrieb Barry via Python-list:
> > On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >
> > I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
>
> Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
> You must use a
> On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
You must use a venv to pip install packages from pypi now.
This is implemented in python and pip and
On 2024-05-19 at 18:13:23 +,
Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
> Was there a reason they chose the name Pip?
Package Installer for Python
https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/index.html
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On 2024-05-19 19:13, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
I install stuff and it just works.
Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that.
I'm on Manjaro, which is a tad finicky about other people
On 2024-05-19 at 18:13:23 +,
Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
> Was there a reason they chose the name Pip?
Package Installer for Python
https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/index.html
Every time I see PIP, I think Peripheral Interchange Program, but I'm
old.
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On 5/19/2024 3:32 AM, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
[snip]
The dependency nightmare created by python, pip
and all the rest cannot be resolved otherwise.
I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
I install stuff
On 2024-05-19, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
>> The dependency nightmare created by python, pip
>> and all the rest cannot be resolved otherwise.
>
> I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
> I install stuff and it just works.
Same here. I occasonlly use pip to install something
On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
>> So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's
>> so down on venvs...
Not so much down on them, they are just one extra step that's
mostly not needed(in my use case)
> Only people which are *not* using
On 2024-05-18 20:12:33 +0200, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
> On 18/05/2024 20.04, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's
> > so down on venvs...
>
> Only people which are *not* using python... :-)
>
> In my experience, venvs
On 18/05/2024 20.04, Mats Wichmann wrote:
[...]
So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's
so down on venvs...
Only people which are *not* using python... :-)
In my experience, venvs is the only possible
way to use python properly.
The dependency nightmare
On 2024-05-18, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
> Distros have do offer a good selection of packaged Python bits, yes, but
> only for the version of Python that's "native" to that distro release.
> If you need to test other versions of Python, you're mostly on your own.
For a few years I
On 5/18/24 10:48, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-05-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I
guess Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're
On 2024-05-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
>
>> To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I
>> guess Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're even.
>
> I don't think Linux users have to deal
On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
> To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I guess Linux
> users have to deal with venvs, so we're even.
I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs any more than Windows
users. Maybe even less because
On 16/05/2024 01:12, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On 15 May 2024 10:31:25 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:
We need somethin like a portable curses module (plus colorama) and
it has got to work on both Windoze and Linux straight out of the box
in standard Python.
Something else for Windows Python users
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