In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've always thought that the best way to introduce new
>programmers to Python is to show them small code
>examples.
Something like this:
http://www.lava.se/sam/
Jacob Hallén
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>> Secondly, Python is nowadays not only used by
>> programmers,
>> but also by e.g. Scientific users (former MatLab
>> users),
>> who are not interested in the code itself,
>> but just in the results of that particular code.
>> For these people a lot of example programs,
>> for which they ca
--- Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
> I don't know MoinMoin,
> but the answer is Yes (although maybe not for your
> ten snippets).
> First of all I think all programmers keep there own
> collection of code snippets,
> which much more valuable then "all the code code
> snippets from everyone"
Steve Howell wrote:
> --- Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
It would even be nicer, if everybody could drop
her/his examples
in a standard way, so they would be automatically
incorporated in
something like the wxPython interactive demo.
>>> Can you elaborate?
>
--- Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> >> It would even be nicer, if everybody could drop
> >> her/his examples
> >> in a standard way, so they would be automatically
> >> incorporated in
> >> something like the wxPython interactive demo.
> >>
> >
> > Can you elaborate?
>
> Well if y
>
>> The wxPython demo program is written as an
>> interactive tutorial,
>> with a few hundred examples, nicely ordered in
>> groups.
>> The user can view the demo, the code and the help
>> text.
>> The user can also change the code and see the
>> results right away.
>>
>
> Do you have a link?
w
--- Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Steve Howell wrote:
> > I've always thought that the best way to introduce
> new
> > programmers to Python is to show them small code
> > examples.
> >
> This is really a nice piece of missing Python.
>
Thanks.
> The wxPython demo program is wr
Just for the amusement of the audience. The following is a reusable
testscript:
>>> def add_money(amounts):
... pennies = sum([round(int(amount * 100)) for amount in amounts])
... return float(pennies / 100.0)
...
>>> add_money([0.13, 0.02]) == 0.15
0.14999
>>> add_money([0.13,
Steve Howell wrote:
> I've always thought that the best way to introduce new
> programmers to Python is to show them small code
> examples.
>
This is really a nice piece of missing Python.
Sorry I didn't follow this thread accurately,
but have you considered to produce an example environment li
>
> You could try this wiki page:
>
> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
> It has a fair amount of Python examples as well as many more other
> languages (doing the same algorithm).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Adonis
THIS IS GREAT :) Thanx!
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Steve Howell wrote:
> I've always thought that the best way to introduce new
> programmers to Python is to show them small code
> examples.
You could try this wiki page:
http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Main_Page
It has a fair amount of Python examples as well as many more other
languages (doing
Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think I would rewrite the current unit-testing example to use the
> standard library unittest module::
I think these days we're supposed to like doctest better than unittest.
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--- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe this is the first good example that
> motivates a
> > hyperlink to alternatives. Would you accept the
> idea
> > that we keep my original example on the
> SimplePrograms
> > page, but we link to a UnitTestingPhilosophies
> page,
> > and
Steve Howell wrote:
> --- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Steve Howell wrote:
>>> --- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
I think I would rewrite the current unit-testing
example to use the
standard library unittest module::
# Let's write reus
--- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Howell wrote:
> > --- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> I think I would rewrite the current unit-testing
> >> example to use the
> >> standard library unittest module::
> >>
> >> # Let's write reusable code, and unit test
Steve Howell wrote:
> --- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I think I would rewrite the current unit-testing
>> example to use the
>> standard library unittest module::
>>
>> # Let's write reusable code, and unit test it.
>> def add_money(amounts):
>> # do arithmet
Steve Howell wrote:
> --- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think I would rewrite the current unit-testing
>> example to use the
>> standard library unittest module::
>>
>> # Let's write reusable code, and unit test it.
>> def add_money(amounts):
>> # do arithmetic
--- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think I would rewrite the current unit-testing
> example to use the
> standard library unittest module::
>
> # Let's write reusable code, and unit test it.
> def add_money(amounts):
> # do arithmetic in pennies so as not to
--- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I would rewrite the current unit-testing
> example to use the
> standard library unittest module::
>
> # Let's write reusable code, and unit test it.
> def add_money(amounts):
> # do arithmetic in pennies so as not to
>
Steve Howell wrote:
> --- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Very cool! Do you mind putting this up on the Wiki
>> somewhere so that we
>> can link to it more easily? Maybe something like:
>>
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/SimplePrograms
>>
>
> Done.
I think I would rewrite the cu
--- Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Steve Howell wrote:
> > # def defines a method in Python
> > def say_hello(name):
> > print 'hello', name
> > say_hello('Jack')
> > say_hello('Jill')
> >
> Doesn't def define methods *xor* functions,
> depending on
Steve Howell wrote:
> # def defines a method in Python
> def say_hello(name):
> print 'hello', name
> say_hello('Jack')
> say_hello('Jill')
>
Doesn't def define methods *xor* functions, depending on the context?
And in this example, say_hello (*yuck*, underscores ...) is
--- BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For the person new to programming (doesn't come from
> C or other
> languages), I think you need to add a separate
> explanation of string
> formatting and how it works, or at least add a
> comment that tells them
> you are using string format
--- BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On May 26, 1:43 pm, Steve Howell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --
> > # def defines a method in Python
> > def tax(itemCharge, taxRate = 0.05):
> > return itemCharge * taxRate
> > print '%.2f' % tax(11.35)
> > p
On May 26, 1:43 pm, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --
> parentRabbits, babyRabbits = (1, 1)
> while babyRabbits < 100:
> print 'This generation has %d rabbits' %
> babyRabbits
> parentRabbits, babyRabbits = (babyRabbits,
> parentRabbits + babyRabbits)
>
>
lex
>
Along the idea of not reinventing a class from the
standard library in the list of ten small Python
programs (which has since grown), I went with the
classic BankAccount example for the first program to
introduce the "class" statement.
You can
--- Steven D'Aprano
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:48:45 -0700, Steve Howell
> wrote:
>
> > It also has a ComplexNumber class, but I don't
> want to
> > scare away mathphobes.
>
> Is it as short as this one-liner?
>
> ComplexNumber = complex
>
The "It" above refers to *t
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:48:45 -0700, Steve Howell wrote:
> It also has a ComplexNumber class, but I don't want to
> scare away mathphobes.
Is it as short as this one-liner?
ComplexNumber = complex
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On May 26, 9:58 pm, Paul McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, how does this style jibe with the latest embracing
> of Unicode identifiers? Ever tried to type an underscore on a non-US
> keyboard? I have a heck of a time finding/typing the '_' character
> when I visit our clients
Out of curiosity, how does this style jibe with the latest embracing
of Unicode identifiers? Ever tried to type an underscore on a non-US
keyboard? I have a heck of a time finding/typing the '_' character
when I visit our clients in Germany, but this may just be my own
personal Amerocentric issue
--- Paul McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On May 26, 8:48 pm, Steve Howell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking you could actually have a progression
> > from a 1 line program up to a 50-line program.
> The
> > number 50 is kind of arbitrary, but my gut says
> that
> > by a 50-l
Paul McGuire wrote:
> I ***love*** this "10 Little Programs" idea! As soon as I get a
> breathing space, I'm going to add a "10 Little Parsers" page to the
> pyparsing wiki!
>
> On May 26, 2:38 pm, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Though the code should probably follow PEP 8 guide
On May 26, 8:48 pm, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm thinking you could actually have a progression
> from a 1 line program up to a 50-line program. The
> number 50 is kind of arbitrary, but my gut says that
> by a 50-line program, you will have demonstrated
> almost every useful co
--- Paul McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I ***love*** this "10 Little Programs" idea! As
> soon as I get a
> breathing space, I'm going to add a "10 Little
> Parsers" page to the
> pyparsing wiki!
>
Thanks. :)
I'm thinking you could actually have a progression
from a 1 line program up to
Paul McGuire wrote:
[...].
>
> I guess pyparsing with its mixedCase functions and attributes is
> doomed for the Dunce Corner. Too bad for BeautifulSoup, cElementTree,
> and wxPython that are also at variance with this canon of Python
> coding style. ("Modules should have short, all-lowercase nam
I ***love*** this "10 Little Programs" idea! As soon as I get a
breathing space, I'm going to add a "10 Little Parsers" page to the
pyparsing wiki!
On May 26, 2:38 pm, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Though the code should probably follow PEP 8 guidelines, e.g.
> under_scores inste
--- Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very cool! Do you mind putting this up on the Wiki
> somewhere so that we
> can link to it more easily? Maybe something like:
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/SimplePrograms
>
Done.
>
> Though the code should probably follow PEP 8
> guideli
Steve Howell wrote:
> I've always thought that the best way to introduce new
> programmers to Python is to show them small code
> examples.
>
> When you go to the tutorial, though, you have to wade
> through quite a bit of English before seeing any
> Python examples.
>
> Below is my attempt at
On 11:43 Sat 26 May , Steve Howell wrote:
> I've always thought that the best way to introduce new
> programmers to Python is to show them small code
> examples.
>
> When you go to the tutorial, though, you have to wade
> through quite a bit of English before seeing any
> Python examples.
>
I've always thought that the best way to introduce new
programmers to Python is to show them small code
examples.
When you go to the tutorial, though, you have to wade
through quite a bit of English before seeing any
Python examples.
Below is my attempt at generating ten fairly simple,
represen
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