RE: where are the program that are written in python?

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Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-23 Thread Lie Ryan
On 05/23/10 04:49, Terry Reedy wrote: On 5/21/2010 11:03 PM, Lie Ryan wrote: On 05/22/10 04:47, Terry Reedy wrote: On 5/21/2010 6:21 AM, Deep_Feelings wrote: python is not a new programming language ,it has been there for the last 15+ years or so ? right ? however by having a look at

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-23 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Lie Ryan lie.1...@gmail.com wrote: But the point still hold, that in real life, often the language's raw speed doesn't really limit the program's speed. I would rather say that Python vs C does not matter until it does, and it generally does when constants

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-23 Thread sturlamolden
On 23 Mai, 10:47, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather say that Python vs C does not matter until it does, I disagree. C matters because it is portable assembly code. Which means it is tedious and error prone to use, so avoiding it actually matters. Hence C matters. Knowing

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-23 Thread alex23
Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: I came across a game on Big Fish Games recently (it was The Moonstone IIRC) that appeared to have been built using Python and py2app. Python tends to be used more for scripting internal game logic than for every aspect of a game (which is, IMO,

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread sturlamolden
On 21 Mai, 12:21, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: 1- where are the programs that is written in python ? You could search for them with Google and download your results Bittorrent. is python a valid practical programming language ? No, it is probably Turing incomplete. --

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Patrick Maupin
On May 21, 8:45 pm, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: In article eb0c9aec-428f-45a2-a985-5b33906e0...@z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, Patrick Maupin  pmau...@gmail.com wrote: There are a lot of commercial programs written in Python.  But any company which thinks it has a lock on some kind of

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Patrick Maupin
On May 21, 9:12 pm, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: In article eb0c9aec-428f-45a2-a985-5b33906e0...@z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, Patrick Maupin  pmau...@gmail.com wrote: There are a lot of commercial programs written in Python.  But any

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread sturlamolden
On 21 Mai, 20:20, Patrick Maupin pmau...@gmail.com wrote: There are a lot of commercial programs written in Python.  But any company which thinks it has a lock on some kind of super secret sauce isn't going to use Python, because it's very easy to reverse engineer even compiled Python

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Deep_Feelings
thank you very much ,your reply guys are very nice and informative. hope you best luck in your life -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Tim Chase
On 05/22/2010 02:43 AM, sturlamolden wrote: That only applies to CPU bound program code (most program code is I/O bound), and only to computational bottlenecks (usually less than 5% of the code) in the CPU bound programs. Today, most programs are I/O bound: You don't get a faster network

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Aahz
In article mailman.527.1274527722.32709.python-l...@python.org, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: I'd also include that a change in algorithm can be a big help for speeding up CPU-bound code. It doesn't matter much if you're using Python or hand-coding that inner loop in

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread sturlamolden
On 22 Mai, 17:09, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: Rewriting an algorithm also helps I/O-bound code Yes it does, if it involves how we do I/O. Algorithms are just as important for I/O bound as they are for compute bound code. But implementing an algorithm in C as opposed to Python would not

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/21/2010 11:03 PM, Lie Ryan wrote: On 05/22/10 04:47, Terry Reedy wrote: On 5/21/2010 6:21 AM, Deep_Feelings wrote: python is not a new programming language ,it has been there for the last 15+ years or so ? right ? however by having a look at this page

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Patrick Maupin
On May 22, 2:43 am, sturlamolden stu...@molden.no wrote: On 21 Mai, 20:20, Patrick Maupin pmau...@gmail.com wrote: Also, any company in a competitive market where execution speed is extremely important might choose some other language because, frankly, the fact that a development tool is

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Patrick Maupin
On May 22, 1:49 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Because, as I said, and as you explain further, Python favors programmer speed, including speed of testing new algorithms, over raw execution speed of current algorithms. (Current) speed is (also) easier to test than improvability and

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Patrick Maupin
On May 21, 10:30 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: Erm, in fairness, I recall hearing that some speed-critical bits of hg are written in C. It does lend credence to the Python as glue language argument though; I doubt hg's extensibility and friendly interface would have been as easy

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 11:20 -0700, Patrick Maupin wrote: On May 21, 5:21 am, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: 2- python is high productivity language : why there are no commercial programs written in python ? There are a lot of commercial programs written in Python. But any

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Gregory Ewing
Deep_Feelings wrote: i will be interested more in COMMERCIAL programs written in python I came across a game on Big Fish Games recently (it was The Moonstone IIRC) that appeared to have been built using Python and py2app. -- Greg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread sturlamolden
On 22 Mai, 20:45, Patrick Maupin pmau...@gmail.com wrote: I think we're in violent agreement here -- you neglected to quote the part where I said (But the up-front choice of another language simply for speed, rather than prototyping with Python and then recoding the slow bits, would probably

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread sturlamolden
On 22 Mai, 13:28, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: Just as an aside, last I checked, mercurial had some core code in C for speed.   I've been writing scrintific software for over 10 years. I always find myself writing small pieces of C now and then. It is usally because header

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-22 Thread Xavier Ho
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:35 PM, sturlamolden stu...@molden.no wrote: Yes I know about PyOpenGL, but then there is the speed argument: From C I can make epeated calls to functions like glVertex4f with minial loss of efficacy. Calling glVertex4f from Python (e.g. PyOpenGL) would give me the

where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Deep_Feelings
python is not a new programming language ,it has been there for the last 15+ years or so ? right ? however by having a look at this page http://wiki.python.org/moin/Applications i could not see many programs written in python (i will be interested more in COMMERCIAL programs written in

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Simon Brunning
On 21 May 2010 11:21:11 UTC+1, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: 1- where are the programs that is written in python ? 2- python is high productivity language : why there are no commercial programs written in python ? See http://www.python.org/about/success/ -- Cheers, Simon B. --

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
On 05/21/10 11:21, Deep_Feelings wrote: python is not a new programming language ,it has been there for the last 15+ years or so ? right ? Yeah about the same as Java however by having a look at this page http://wiki.python.org/moin/Applications i could not see many programs written in

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Jake b
did this not go to the list? Arg, reply does in other mailing list. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Jake b ninmonk...@gmail.com wrote: I took it as game-domain only question: I don't know of any big game written in python. ( meaning python code, using c++ libs. ) Verses games that at their

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Deep_Feelings
On May 21, 1:35 pm, Simon Brunning si...@brunningonline.net wrote: On 21 May 2010 11:21:11 UTC+1, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: Seehttp://www.python.org/about/success/ thankx for reply. from that list i have a feeling that python is acting only as quick and dirty work nothing more

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread News123
Deep_Feelings wrote: On May 21, 1:35 pm, Simon Brunning si...@brunningonline.net wrote: On 21 May 2010 11:21:11 UTC+1, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: Seehttp://www.python.org/about/success/ thankx for reply. from that list i have a feeling that python is acting only as quick

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Xavier Ho
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: thankx for reply. from that list i have a feeling that python is acting only as quick and dirty work nothing more ! You might have just offended a lot of people on the list here Cheers, Xav --

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Simon Brunning
On 21 May 2010 12:12:18 UTC+1, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: from that list i have a feeling that python is acting only as quick and dirty work nothing more ! Really? Well, in any case, I can tell you that I know of a number of large commercial web sites built with Django. I just

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Wolfgang Rohdewald
On Freitag 21 Mai 2010, Jake b wrote: I don't know of any big game written in python. ( meaning python code, using c++ libs would you call 8702 python statements big? If so, Kajongg would be a candidate. -- Wolfgang -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 11:37 +0100, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: On 05/21/10 11:21, Deep_Feelings wrote: however by having a look at this page http://wiki.python.org/moin/Applications i could not see many programs written in python (i will be interested more in COMMERCIAL programs written in

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Jason Scheirer
On May 21, 3:21 am, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: python is not a new programming language ,it has been there for the last 15+ years or so ? right ? however by having a look at this pagehttp://wiki.python.org/moin/Applications i could not see many programs written in python

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/21/2010 7:12 AM, Deep_Feelings wrote: On May 21, 1:35 pm, Simon Brunningsi...@brunningonline.net wrote: On 21 May 2010 11:21:11 UTC+1, Deep_Feelingsdoctore...@gmail.com wrote: Seehttp://www.python.org/about/success/ thankx for reply. from that list i have a feeling that python is

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Patrick Maupin
On May 21, 5:21 am, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: i could not see many programs written in python Well you could try PyPi, or even a search on googlecode. (i will be interested more in COMMERCIAL programs written in python ). What do you mean by commercial, and why? and to be

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread geremy condra
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: On May 21, 1:35 pm, Simon Brunning si...@brunningonline.net wrote: On 21 May 2010 11:21:11 UTC+1, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: Seehttp://www.python.org/about/success/ thankx for reply. from that list i

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/21/2010 6:21 AM, Deep_Feelings wrote: python is not a new programming language ,it has been there for the last 15+ years or so ? right ? however by having a look at this page http://wiki.python.org/moin/Applications i could not see many programs written in python (i will be interested

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Tim Chase
On 05/21/2010 01:40 PM, geremy condra wrote: See http://www.python.org/about/success/ thankx for reply. from that list i have a feeling that python is acting only as quick and dirty work nothing more ! Yeah, there's not really a lot of industry support. If only we could get a huge search

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Aahz
In article eb0c9aec-428f-45a2-a985-5b33906e0...@z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, Patrick Maupin pmau...@gmail.com wrote: There are a lot of commercial programs written in Python. But any company which thinks it has a lock on some kind of super secret sauce isn't going to use Python, because it's

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Ben Finney
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: In article eb0c9aec-428f-45a2-a985-5b33906e0...@z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, Patrick Maupin pmau...@gmail.com wrote: There are a lot of commercial programs written in Python. But any company which thinks it has a lock on some kind of super secret

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Lie Ryan
On 05/22/10 04:47, Terry Reedy wrote: On 5/21/2010 6:21 AM, Deep_Feelings wrote: python is not a new programming language ,it has been there for the last 15+ years or so ? right ? however by having a look at this page http://wiki.python.org/moin/Applications i could not see many

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Chris Rebert
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Lie Ryan lie.1...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/10 04:47, Terry Reedy wrote: On 5/21/2010 6:21 AM, Deep_Feelings wrote: python is not a new programming language ,it has been there for the last 15+ years or so ? right ? however by having a look at this page

Re: where are the program that are written in python?

2010-05-21 Thread Carl Banks
On May 21, 3:21 am, Deep_Feelings doctore...@gmail.com wrote: please don't mention programs where python was used as a glue ,those programs are not actually written in python. I hate to answer a troll, but I'll just mention that when people talk about a glue language, they're not talking about