Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-26 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
be.krul a écrit : Why not moderate this group? This is a hi-traffic group, so it would require a huge team of moderators. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-26 Thread Mithrandir
On 07/18/2010 03:58 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote: In article334170d5-a336-4506-bda1-279b40908...@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com, be.krulbe.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? They're *all* being spammed. Why? Because they can, and because Google doesn't care. Not only does

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-25 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
Python-list is comp.lang.python turned into mailing list form. gmane is python-list turned back into a newsgroup. The reason it gets less spam is because it's behind the mailing list's spam filters. Both the mailing list and gmane should see the same amount of spam. which is way less than the

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread be.krul
On Jul 17, 10:40 pm, Stephen Hansen me+list/pyt...@ixokai.io wrote: On 7/17/10 10:01 PM, be.krul wrote: why is this group being spammed? Because while God created the Internet, the Devil twisted it by creating spammers. What do you expect? Adam just didn't pay enough attention when Eve

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread be.krul
On Jul 17, 10:09 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? Because that's what happens in unmoderated USENET newsgroups. Cheers, Chris I thought this group can be moderated, but turns out

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread be.krul
On Jul 17, 10:24 pm, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: be.krul be.k...@gmail.com writes: why is this group being spammed? What kind of answer are you looking for? Are you asking about the motives of spammers, or the technical explanation for how the spam arrives, or something

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread be.krul
On Jul 17, 10:57 pm, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach +use...@gmail.com wrote: * be.krul, on 18.07.2010 07:01: why is this group being spammed? It depends a little on what you're asking, e.g. technical versus motivation. But I'll answer about something you probably didn't mean

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread be.krul
On Jul 17, 10:01 pm, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? What I was asking is why not moderate the group. this is the only Python group I could find.. But maybe owner of this group do no care in that case we *all* get spammed! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 07/24/2010 04:20 PM, be.krul wrote: On Jul 17, 10:09 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? Because that's what happens in unmoderated USENET newsgroups. Cheers, Chris I thought

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread be.krul
On Jul 24, 7:39 am, Thomas Jollans tho...@jollans.com wrote: On 07/24/2010 04:20 PM, be.krul wrote: On Jul 17, 10:09 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? Because that's what happens

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:01 PM, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Here's a few of theories: 1) This isn't a strong enough community to warrant a group of people who moderate the list and make sure spam

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread nero janick
Brian, would you like to volunteer? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:01 PM, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Here's a few

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/07/2010 18:01, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:32:30 -0700 (PDT), be.krulbe.k...@gmail.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: But maybe owner of this group do no care in that case we *all* get spammed! There is NO OWNER of comp.lang.python;

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread Jia Hu
Hi, can I subscribe this by gmail? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: On 24/07/2010 18:01, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:32:30 -0700 (PDT), be.krulbe.k...@gmail.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: But maybe

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread Jia Hu
I subscribe for this mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Jia Hu huji...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, can I subscribe this by gmail? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: On 24/07/2010 18:01,

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/07/2010 20:28, Jia Hu wrote: I subscribe for this mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list I read through Thunderbird on Windows direct to gmane.comp.python.general. I'm no expert on such things, but assume that they are simply better [or less profitable

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-24 Thread John Bokma
be.krul be.k...@gmail.com writes: On Jul 17, 10:01 pm, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? What I was asking is why not moderate the group. this is the only Python group I could find.. Controlling spam starts by you! Report it. And certainly don't reply to spam

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-19 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 7/17/10 10:01 PM, be.krul wrote: why is this group being spammed? Because while God created the Internet, the Devil twisted it by creating spammers. What do you expect? Adam just didn't pay enough attention when Eve made him a waldorf salad; we descendants of Seth have gone and tried

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-19 Thread John Bokma
be.krul be.k...@gmail.com writes: why is this group being spammed? Do you report those spammers? While Google is extremely lazy with dealing with spammers, if sufficient people report them action might be taken. Also make sure to report those spammers with their ISP; posts via GG contain

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-19 Thread Jia Hu
PM, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote: be.krul be.k...@gmail.com writes: why is this group being spammed? Do you report those spammers? While Google is extremely lazy with dealing with spammers, if sufficient people report them action might be taken. Also make sure to report those

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-19 Thread Nobody
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:18:59 -0700, sturlamolden wrote: why is this group being spammed? There used to be bots that issued cancel messages against spam, but I don't think they are actively maintained anymore. Mostly because cancel messages are invariably ignored nowadays. -- http

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-19 Thread Jia Hu
Hi noboby: How can you make the current email and name hidden? On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Nobody nob...@nowhere.com wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:18:59 -0700, sturlamolden wrote: why is this group being spammed? There used to be bots that issued cancel messages against spam, but I

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet
* be.krul, on 18.07.2010 07:01: why is this group being spammed? It depends a little on what you're asking, e.g. technical versus motivation. But I'll answer about something you probably didn't mean to ask, namely what human trait enables and almost forces that kind of behavior. And I

why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread geremy condra
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach+use...@gmail.com wrote: * be.krul, on 18.07.2010 07:01: why is this group being spammed? It depends a little on what you're asking, e.g. technical versus motivation. But I'll answer about something you probably

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Johannes Kleese
On 18.07.2010 08:09, geremy condra wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach+use...@gmail.com wrote: in in a social group by sharing that group's behavior and values. This instinct is possibly stronger than the sex drive, e.g., wars are seldom fought

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Johannes Kleese j.kle...@arcor.de wrote: On 18.07.2010 08:09, geremy condra wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach+use...@gmail.com wrote: in in a social group by sharing that group's behavior and values. This

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread sturlamolden
On 18 Jul, 07:01, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? There used to be bots that issued cancel messages against spam, but I don't think they are actively maintained anymore. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Edward A. Falk
In article 334170d5-a336-4506-bda1-279b40908...@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? They're *all* being spammed. Why? Because they can, and because Google doesn't care. -- -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com http

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Edward A. Falk
In article i1u511$b3...@news.eternal-september.org, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet alf.p.steinbach+use...@gmail.com wrote: Consider, there would be almost no spam if spamming didn't pay. Or if ISPs refused to tolerate it from their customers. -- -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/07/2010 23:58, Edward A. Falk wrote: In article334170d5-a336-4506-bda1-279b40908...@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com, be.krulbe.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? They're *all* being spammed. Why? Because they can, and because Google doesn't care. I see little

why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-17 Thread be.krul
why is this group being spammed? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-17 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, be.krul be.k...@gmail.com wrote: why is this group being spammed? Because that's what happens in unmoderated USENET newsgroups. Cheers, Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why is this group being spammed?

2010-07-17 Thread Ben Finney
be.krul be.k...@gmail.com writes: why is this group being spammed? What kind of answer are you looking for? Are you asking about the motives of spammers, or the technical explanation for how the spam arrives, or something else? -- \ “The best ad-libs are rehearsed.” —Graham