On behalf of Twisted Matrix Laboratories, I am pleased to announce the
release of Twisted 13.0.
Among the 70 tickets closed, we can see:
* A new Introduction to Deferreds document that you can find here:
http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/13.0.0/core/howto/defer-intro.html
* A fix in
Call for Papers
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In-cooperation with SIGPLAN and SIGSOFT
1–5 July, Montpellier, France
http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/Events/Dyla13
!!
SQLalchemy and Storm are a few of the popular ORMs out there.
Personally I have been using web2py's DAL.
Other than form generator availability, 'print as raw SQL', multiple
primary keys, widgets*, `check` conditions and compatibility with
OracleDB, Postgres, SQLite and some of the NoSQL
On 4/3/2013 1:32 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:31:03 +1100, Neil Hodgson wrote:
Sorting a million string list (all the file paths on a particular
computer) went from 0.4 seconds with Python 3.2 to 0.78 with 3.3 so
we're out of the 'not noticeable by humans' range.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Neil Hodgson nhodg...@iinet.net.au wrote:
rusi wrote:
Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs
which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.
In my personal experience, it's calculators. I put command-line
calculators
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:31:03 +1100, Neil Hodgson wrote:
Sorting a million string list (all the file paths on a particular
computer) went from 0.4 seconds with Python 3.2 to 0.78 with 3.3 so
we're
Chris Angelico:
I'd be curious to know the sorts of characters used. Given that it's
probably a narrow-vs-wide Python difference we're talking here, the
actual distribution of codepoints may well make a difference.
I was going to upload it but then I thought of potential client
Terry Jan Reedy:
What system *and* what compiler and compiler options. Unless 3.2 and 3.3
are both compiler with the same compiler and settings, we do not know
the source of the difference.
The version signatures are:
3.2.3 (default, Apr 11 2012, 07:15:24) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Neil Hodgson nhodg...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Chris Angelico:
I'd be curious to know the sorts of characters used. Given that it's
probably a narrow-vs-wide Python difference we're talking here, the
actual distribution of codepoints may well make a difference.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm. I was about to say Can you just do a quick collections.Counter()
of the string widths in 3.3, as an easy way of seeing which ones use
BMP or higher characters, but I can't find a simple way to query a
string's width.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm. I was about to say Can you just do a quick collections.Counter()
of the string widths in 3.3, as an easy way of seeing which ones use
BMP or
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:04:12 -0700, CM wrote:
To summarize the issue: In an application, I have been using Python's
datetime module to get the current time. But it seems that, at least
with Windows (XP), whatever time zone your computer is set to when you
start the application, that's what
Reran the programs taking a bit more care with the encoding of the
file. This had no effect on the speeds. There are only a small amount of
paths that don't fit into ASCII:
ASCII 1076101
Latin1 218
BMP 113
Astral 0
# encoding:utf-8
import codecs, os, time
from os.path import join, getsize
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:24:25 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hmm. I was about to say Can you just do a quick collections.Counter()
of the string widths
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Here's another way:
(sys.getsizeof(s) - sys.getsizeof(''))/len(s)
should work.
Hmm, I had been under the impression that there was a certain base
length below which strings all had the same size.
On Apr 3, 12:37 pm, Neil Hodgson nhodg...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Reran the programs taking a bit more care with the encoding of the
file. This had no effect on the speeds. There are only a small amount of
paths that don't fit into ASCII:
ASCII 1076101
Latin1 218
BMP 113
Astral 0
#
This FSR is wrong by design. A naive way to embrace Unicode.
jmf
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Apologies. The main app is in python, and I would like to know any
alternative methods to do this in Python on OS X. Doesn't have to use the
OS X APIs.
I'll try elsewhere too though. Thanks
On 3 April 2013 00:37, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
In article
Roy Smith:
On the other hand, how long did it take you to do the directory tree
walk required to find those million paths? I'll bet a long longer than
0.78 seconds, so this gets lost in the noise.
About 2 minutes. But that's just getting an example data set. Other
data sets may be loaded
rusi:
Can you please try one more experiment Neil?
Knock off all non-ASCII strings (paths) from your dataset and try
again.
Results are the same 0.40 (well, 0.001 less but I don't think the
timer is that accurate) for Python 3.2 and 0.78 for Python 3.3.
Neil
--
Hi there, i installed python 2.7 (windows 32bit version) from
http://www.enthought.com/products/epd_free.php and after that i installed
official 3.3 version too. So now i got two python folders like this..
c:/Python27 and c:/Python33 .
My problem is that when im trying to execute a .py file,
D. Xenakis gouzounakis at hotmail.com writes:
Hi there, i installed python 2.7 (windows 32bit version) from
http://www.enthought.com/products/epd_free.php and after that i installed
official 3.3 version
too. So now i got two python folders like this.. c:/Python27 and c:/Python33
.
My
On 04/03/2013 04:22 AM, Neil Hodgson wrote:
rusi:
Can you please try one more experiment Neil?
Knock off all non-ASCII strings (paths) from your dataset and try
again.
Results are the same 0.40 (well, 0.001 less but I don't think the
timer is that accurate) for Python 3.2 and 0.78 for
On 04/03/2013 04:44 AM, D. Xenakis wrote:
Hi there, i installed python 2.7 (windows 32bit version) from
http://www.enthought.com/products/epd_free.php and after that i installed
official 3.3 version too. So now i got two python folders like this..
c:/Python27 and c:/Python33 .
My problem is
+
To: tu...@python.org tu...@python.org
Sent: Monday, 1 April 2013 9:18 AM
Subject: [Tutor] is there a simple stand alone python app I can use on my
Kindle fire?
Hello,
I'm enjoying learning python, and would like to be able to study and practice
on the go, using my kindle fire reader.
Dave Angel:
That would seem to imply that the speed regression on your data is NOT
caused by the differing size encodings. Perhaps it is the difference in
MSC compiler version, or other changes made between 3.2 and 3.3
Its not caused by there actually being different size encodings but
On behalf of Twisted Matrix Laboratories, I am pleased to announce the
release of Twisted 13.0.
Among the 70 tickets closed, we can see:
* A new Introduction to Deferreds document that you can find here:
http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/13.0.0/core/howto/defer-intro.html
* A fix in
On 03/04/2013 09:08, jmfauth wrote:
This FSR is wrong by design. A naive way to embrace Unicode.
jmf
The hole you're digging for yourself is getting bigger and bigger and
I'm loving it :)
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On 04/03/2013 07:05 AM, Neil Hodgson wrote:
Dave Angel:
That would seem to imply that the speed regression on your data is NOT
caused by the differing size encodings. Perhaps it is the difference in
MSC compiler version, or other changes made between 3.2 and 3.3
Its not caused by there
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira
renato.barbosa.pim.pere...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the advices, I need now one scrollbar to roll under screen, I
created the scrollbar but cant roll, please help me on this.
http://pastebin.com/L6XWY6cm
You need to bind your
On 03/04/2013 09:44, D. Xenakis wrote:
Hi there, i installed python 2.7 (windows 32bit version) from
http://www.enthought.com/products/epd_free.php and after that i installed
official 3.3 version too. So now i got two python folders like this..
c:/Python27 and c:/Python33 .
My problem is
On 2013-04-01, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:41:03 +, Neil Cerutti wrote:
I tried searching for Frost*, an interesting artist I recently learned
about.
Interesting artist -- is that another term for wanker?
*wink*
hee-hee. It
In article mailman.35.1364969706.3114.python-l...@python.org,
Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote:
SQLalchemy and Storm are a few of the popular ORMs out there.
Personally I have been using web2py's DAL.
Other than form generator availability, 'print as raw SQL', multiple
primary
I tried to reinstall python 3.3 but there was not change :(.
I selected to run all component from my PC.
I'll give it a try with those registries.
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In article 1f2dnfpbhy54embmnz2dnuvz_osdn...@westnet.com.au,
Neil Hodgson nhodg...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Roy Smith:
On the other hand, how long did it take you to do the directory tree
walk required to find those million paths? I'll bet a long longer than
0.78 seconds, so this gets lost
In article mailman.37.1364970149.3114.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Neil Hodgson nhodg...@iinet.net.au wrote:
rusi wrote:
Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs
which cannot so expand are
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
In article mailman.37.1364970149.3114.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Neil Hodgson nhodg...@iinet.net.au wrote:
rusi wrote:
Every program attempts to expand
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
Fair enough. In fact, given that reading the file from disk is O(n) and
sorting it is O(n log n), at some point, the sort will totally swamp the
input time.
But given the much larger fixed cost of disk access, that might take
Hey,
I'm fairly new to python, and have had no experience with threading.
Iv made a small GUI App using the kivy module and OpenCV, i have currently got
a button that when pressed runs a function that records from my webcam for 20
seconds.
However i have two other buttons, that when pressed
In article 515be00e$0$29891$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:24:25 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM,
On 02/04/2013 10:28, Neil Hodgson wrote:
jmfauth:
3.2.3 (default, Apr 11 2012, 07:15:24) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
[0.8343414906182101, 0.8336184057396241, 0.8330473419738562]
3.3.0 (v3.3.0:bd8afb90ebf2, Sep 29 2012, 10:55:48) [MSC v.1600 32 bit
[1.3840254166697845, 1.3933888932429768,
I have some classes that have shared behaviours, for example in our
scenario an object can be visited, where something that is visitable
would have some behaviour like
--8---cut here---start-8---
class Visitable(Mixin):
FIELDS = {
'visits': [],
Τη Τετάρτη, 3 Απριλίου 2013 12:43:43 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Wolfgang Maier
έγραψε:
D. Xenakis gouzounakis at hotmail.com writes:
Hi there, i installed python 2.7 (windows 32bit version) from
http://www.enthought.com/products/epd_free.php and after that i installed
official
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
This has to inspect the entire string, no? I posted (essentially) this
a few days ago:
if all(ord(c) = 0x for c in s):
return it's all bmp
else:
return it's got astral crap in it
D. Xenakis gouzounakis at hotmail.com writes:
The Python.File entry mentioned
there also has the information about the IDLE version to use.
Best,
Wolfgang
I changed this too Python.CompiledFile to my 33 version.
Should i not touch this key?
The
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 07:52:42 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
I thought that the sort algorithm used a hash of all
the items to be sorted, and only reverted to a raw comparison of the
original values when the hash collided. Is that not the case? Or is
the code you post here only used when the hash
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:43:06 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
[...]
n = max(map(ord, s))
4 if n 0x else 2 if n 0xff else 1
This has to inspect the entire string, no?
Correct. A more efficient implementation would be:
def char_size(s):
for n in map(ord, s):
if n 0x: return 4
In article 515c400e$0$29966$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
I seem to recall that sort relies only on operator is a language
promise, but I can't seem to find it documented anywhere official.
That's pretty typical for sort
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 01:17:28 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
Probably, but it still has to scan the body of the string. It'd not be
too bad if it's all astral, but if it's all BMP, it has to scan the
whole string. In the max() case, it has to scan the whole string anyway,
as there's no other way
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:04:51 +0100, andrea crotti wrote:
I have some classes that have shared behaviours, for example in our
scenario an object can be visited, where something that is visitable
would have some behaviour like
[snip mixins]
By the way, it's a common convention to name mixin
On Apr 3, 6:43 pm, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
This has to inspect the entire string, no? I posted (essentially) this
a few days ago:
if all(ord(c) = 0x for c in s):
return it's all bmp
else:
return it's got astral crap in it
Astral crap?
2013/4/3 Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info
[snip]
So, if you think of Visitable as a gadget that can be strapped onto
your MyObj as a component, then composition is probably a better design.
But if you think of Visitable as a mere collection of behaviour and
state, then a
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote:
I'm also puzzled. I thought that the sort algorithm used a hash of all the
items to be sorted, and only reverted to a raw comparison of the original
values when the hash collided. Is that not the case? Or is the code you
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:43:06 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
[...]
n = max(map(ord, s))
4 if n 0x else 2 if n 0xff else 1
This has to inspect the entire string, no?
Correct. A more efficient
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
(sys.getsizeof(s) - sys.getsizeof(''))/len(s)
s = '\x80\x81\x82\x83\x84\x85'
len(s)
6
import sys
sys.getsizeof(s)
43
sys.getsizeof(s) - sys.getsizeof('')
18
(sys.getsizeof(s) - sys.getsizeof('')) /
Pick the one you learn and know.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 3, 2013, at 2:17 AM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote:
SQLalchemy and Storm are a few of the popular ORMs out there.
Personally I have been using web2py's DAL.
Other than form generator availability, 'print as raw SQL',
On 04/03/2013 09:10 AM, rusi wrote:
On Apr 3, 6:43 pm, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
This has to inspect the entire string, no? I posted (essentially) this
a few days ago:
if all(ord(c) = 0x for c in s):
return it's all bmp
else:
return it's
On 2013-04-03, andrea crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com wrote:
Well I can explain better the situation to make it more clear.
We are using CouchDb and so far it has been (sigh) a brutal
manipulation of dictionaries everywhere, with code duplication
and so on.
Now I wanted to encapsulate all
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:38:20 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:43:06 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
[...]
n = max(map(ord, s))
4 if n 0x else 2 if n 0xff else 1
This has to inspect the
On 04/03/2013 12:30 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote:
I'm also puzzled. I thought that the sort algorithm used a hash of all the
items to be sorted, and only reverted to a raw comparison of the original
values when the hash collided. Is
On 2013-04-02, balasubramanian Achuthan balasu...@gmail.com wrote:
Try using Activestate python. The free version would suffice your
needs and it comes with a clean install.
I have been travelling and have not had time to read this thread in
detail so this may be old hat but on Windows (at
On 4/3/2013 1:51 PM, Martin Schöön wrote:
On 2013-04-02, balasubramanian Achuthan balasu...@gmail.com wrote:
Try using Activestate python. The free version would suffice your
needs and it comes with a clean install.
I have been travelling and have not had time to read this thread in
detail so
On 4/3/2013 12:24 PM, Joe Hill wrote:
On 4/3/2013 12:24 PM, Joe Hill wrote:
I attempted to print about 10 pages of documentation from the help files
using IDLE. On all the pages the side of each page was missing about 1/4
inch of text.
You neglected to say what you actually did to have a
2013-04-03 14:41:13.124000 WRONG
^
(That carrot is supposed to be pointing to the 4 in 14, which should
be 18.)
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On Apr 3, 7:37 am, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:04:12 -0700, CM wrote:
To summarize the issue: In an application, I have been using Python's
datetime module to get the current time. But it seems that, at least
with Windows (XP),
I'm struggling with radio hams who are trying to get my
antique Teletype program running. I hate having to write
instructions like this:
Installation instructions (Windows):
Download and install Python 2.7 (32-bit) if not already installed.
(Python 2.6 or 2.7 is required; pyserial will
thx solved
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On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:41 PM, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote:
I'm struggling with radio hams who are trying to get my
antique Teletype program running. I hate having to write
instructions like this:
Installation instructions (Windows):
You should check out pyInstaller or py2exe or
On 2013-04-03, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote:
I'm struggling with radio hams who are trying to get my antique
Teletype program running. I hate having to write instructions
like this:
Installation instructions (Windows):
Download and install Python 2.7 (32-bit) if not already
On 2013-04-03, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote:
On 2013-04-03, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote:
I'm struggling with radio hams who are trying to get my antique
Teletype program running. I hate having to write instructions
like this:
[...]
Python programs can be distributed as
On 4/3/2013 2:50 PM, Joe Hill wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:40:38 -0400, Terry Jan Reedy tjre...@udel.edu
wrote:
On 4/3/2013 12:24 PM, Joe Hill wrote:
I attempted to print about 10 pages of documentation from the help files
using IDLE. On all the pages the side of each page was missing
On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:11 AM, Thomas Hervé the...@free.fr wrote:
On behalf of Twisted Matrix Laboratories, I am pleased to announce the
release of Twisted 13.0.
Thank you Thomas for managing yet another excellent release!
Among the 70 tickets closed, we can see:
* A new Introduction to
On 4/3/2013 2:46 PM, CM wrote:
On Apr 3, 7:37 am, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:04:12 -0700, CM wrote:
To summarize the issue: In an application, I have been using Python's
datetime module to get the current time. But it seems that, at
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:38:20 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:43:06 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 01:17:28 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
Probably, but it still has to scan the body of the string. It'd not be
too bad if it's all astral, but if it's all BMP, it has to scan the
Yay! Thanks, Thomas and everyone who contributed to this release :)
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Thomas Hervé the...@free.fr wrote:
On behalf of Twisted Matrix Laboratories, I am pleased to announce the
release of Twisted 13.0.
Among the 70 tickets closed, we can see:
* A new
Hi,
I've made serpent, a serializer based around ast.literal_eval().
You can find it on Pypi: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/serpent
Serpent takes a Python object tree and turns it into a serialized form that can
be
safely read back by ast.literal_eval(). This avoids security issues that other
Your mail to 'bind-users' with the subject
Delivery reports about your e-mail
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The reason it is being held:
Post by non-member to a members-only list
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On 4/3/2013 5:16 PM, Joe Hill wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:20:20 -0400, Terry Jan Reedy tjre...@udel.edu
wrote:
On 4/3/2013 2:50 PM, Joe Hill wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:40:38 -0400, Terry Jan Reedy tjre...@udel.edu
wrote:
On 4/3/2013 12:24 PM, Joe Hill wrote:
I attempted to print
On 03/04/2013 22:55, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:38:20 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03
On 4-4-2013 0:33, Joe Hill wrote:
IDLE wants to use Python33 as the data storage folder - with exe files
etc.
Typically the 'default data storage' is in 'last used' directory or most
programs even have a browse setting that one can quickly set and reset.
What do people here generally do?
Neil Hodgson, replying to self:
The assembler (32-bit build) for each
PyUnicode_READ looks like
Don't have 64-bit MSVC 2010 set up but the code from 64-bit MSVC
2012 is better since there are an extra 8 registers in 64-bit mode:
; 10431: c1 = PyUnicode_READ(kind1, data1, i);
In article
aa3b500f-bebf-4d77-9855-3d90b07ea...@y7g2000pbu.googlegroups.com,
rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 3, 6:43 pm, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
This has to inspect the entire string, no? I posted (essentially) this
a few days ago:
if all(ord(c) = 0x for c
In article 515c448c$0$29966$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:43:06 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
[...]
n = max(map(ord, s))
4 if n 0x else 2 if n 0xff else 1
This has to inspect the entire string,
On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 3:05:31 AM UTC+2, Rotwang wrote:
After thinking about it for a while I've come up with the following
abomination
Alas, there is actually no good way to implement this feature in pure Python
without abominations. Internally the decorator module does something
Hello,
I have the following python script (some of lines are wrapped):
#! /usr/bin/env python
import csv
def dict_test_1():
csv test program
# Open the file Holdings_EXA.csv
HOLDING_FILE = 'Holdings_EXA.csv'
try:
csv_file = open(HOLDING_FILE, 'rt')
except
Although PEP 8 is only compulsory for the Python standard library, many
users like to stick to PEP 8 for external projects.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
With perhaps one glaring exception: many people hate, or ignore, PEP 8's
recommendation to limit lines to 80 characters.
On 03/04/2013 02:05, Rotwang wrote:
[...]
After thinking about it for a while I've come up with the following
abomination:
import inspect
def sigwrapper(sig):
if not isinstance(sig, inspect.Signature):
sig = inspect.signature(sig)
def wrapper(f):
ps = 'args = []\n\t\t'
ks
On 03/04/2013 05:15, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:05:31 +0100, Rotwang wrote:
Hi all,
Here's a Python problem I've come up against and my crappy solution.
Hopefully someone here can suggest something better. I want to decorate
a bunch of functions with different signatures;
While I agree that not having a line take up hundreds of characters is a
good thing, 80 is really arbitrary in 2013 and having any self-imposed
hard limit is silly. When you put a single 4- or 5-character word on a
new line because you don't want to go over 80 (or 120 or whatever), the
code is
On 4/3/2013 6:26 PM, Joe Hill wrote:
In light of the fact that this is a new problem and has only occurred in
Python - I shall just regard that as either a feature or flaw...
Based on what you have said, the problem IS NOT OCCURRING IN PYTHON.
It is occurring in the Microsoft HTML help
On 4/3/2013 6:53 PM, Irmen de Jong wrote:
On 4-4-2013 0:33, Joe Hill wrote:
IDLE wants to use Python33 as the data storage folder - with exe files
etc.
Typically the 'default data storage' is in 'last used' directory or most
programs even have a browse setting that one can quickly set and
On 04/04/2013 02:18, Michele Simionato wrote:
On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 3:05:31 AM UTC+2, Rotwang wrote:
After thinking about it for a while I've come up with the following
abomination
Alas, there is actually no good way to implement this feature in pure
Python without abominations.
On 04/03/2013 09:59 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:
While I agree that not having a line take up hundreds of characters is a
good thing, 80 is really arbitrary in 2013 and having any self-imposed
hard limit is silly. When you put a single 4- or 5-character word on a
new line because you don't want
On 04/04/2013 02:26, Norman Clerman wrote:
Hello,
I have the following python script (some of lines are wrapped):
#! /usr/bin/env python
import csv
def dict_test_1():
csv test program
# Open the file Holdings_EXA.csv
HOLDING_FILE = 'Holdings_EXA.csv'
try:
On 2013-04-03 18:26, Norman Clerman wrote:
Can anyone explain the presence of the characters \xref\xbb\xbf
before the first field contents Holdings ?
(you mean \xef, not \xref)
This is a byte-order-mark (BOM), which you can read about at [1]. In
this case, it denotes the file as UTF-8
Hi, I am working with Tkinter, and I have set up some simple code to run:
import tkinter
import re
from tkinter import *
global master
master = Tk()
# Start game Launcher
def FormGUI():
master.title(GAME TITLE)
SW = master.winfo_screenwidth() / 3.2
SH = master.winfo_screenheight() /
I also tend to prefer a maximum between 110 and 120 characters. I find
continuation lines confusing, and when you use some third-party tools, such as
wxPython, for example, the boilerplate code leads to some long lines.
I would hate to have to break up this line, for instance:
On Apr 4, 6:36 am, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Although PEP 8 is only compulsory for the Python standard library, many
users like to stick to PEP 8 for external projects.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
I am not the maintainer of the datetime module, but based purely on what
you have said, I would consider that a bug.
I don't. Do you really want every time function slowed by
re-initializing the timezone?
It depends; do you know what re-initializing entails and how costly
that would be?
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