ANN: PyDev 0.9.6 released
Hi All, PyDev - Python IDE (Python Development Enviroment for Eclipse) version 0.9.6 has just been released. This is to be considered a stable release for all features but the debugger, as there are still some integration issues for it to work with Eclipse 3.1, so, if you are using PyDev because of its debugger support, you should stick to version 3.0.x until those issues are fixed. Check the homepage (http://pydev.sourceforge.net/) for more details. The major release highlights is that it Eclipse 3.1 is now supported. Older versions of Eclipse are no longer supported. Regards, -- Fabio Zadrozny -- Software Developer ESSS - Engineering Simulation and Scientific Software www.esss.com.br PyDev - Python Development Enviroment for Eclipse pydev.sf.net pydev.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
ANN: SPE 0.7.4.a Python IDE
Quick release for wxPython2.6, use at your own risk Major bugfix release for wxPython 2.6+ and Mac Os X (This version doesn't work for sure with wxPython versions lower than 2.5.4.1) Bug reports which are related to wxPython 2.6- will be ignored. SPE has a new website: http://www.stani.be/python/blog Update your bookmarks! - :Contribute: - packagers for Linux and Mac Os X - patches - doc writers and translators - SVN development - donations - :New Features: - editor: call-tips for classes - preferences: configurable shortcuts (see shortcuts/__init__.py) - preferences: word characters for autocompletion and calltips - sidebar: improved browser with filters - sidebar: realtime updating now works --- :Bug fixes: - major bugfix for wxpython 2.6+ - major bugfix for Mac OS X - notebooksizer deprecations - blender: support only exposed if run inside blender - editor: autocompletion (case sensitive) - editor: correctly scrolling to lines - editor: encoding - editor: improved call tips for classes - editor: no sash, no crash - editor: save checks if file exists - editor: scrollbars (no invisible source anymore) - editor: source gets focus properly - editor: find dialog gets focus if already opened - editor: shortcut for dedent is now Shift+Tab - preferences: added word characters - sdi: Tool pane has no toolbar - shell:pressing Tab no longer inserts a tab in the editor - sidebar: realtime updating - tool: find now also executes on enter - tool: find doesn't use notebooksizer anymore - tool: find now also executes on enter (Yoyong Hernan) - tool: browser add new folder starts from current folder (Yoyong Hernan) - :Requirements: - full python 2.3+ - wxpython 2.6+ - optional blender 2.35 -- :Donations: - Howard Jones (75 euro, thanks!) - J P Dowd (8 euro) - Mickey Hadick (5.00) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Jul 20)
QOTW: Discussing goto statements and Microsoft together is like mixing dynamite and gasoline. - DH 'Spaghetti doesn't quite describe it. I've settled on Lovecraftian: reading the code, you can't help but get the impression of writhing tentacles and impossible angles.' - Robert Kern Highlight of the week; Jython 2.2a1: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/9c3b6b2e10d8a490 Nearly-highlight of the week; Simon Willison introduces Django, the web framework for perfectionists with deadlines: http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2005/07/17/django But Jeff Shell remains more impressed with Subway: http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2005/07/python-off-rails.html CherryPy-2.1.0-beta released: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/18f2e97ab515891 With all this web framework activity, what are people using? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/63bdf6b93e1704d3 Bob Ippolito wonders; what happened to YAML? http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2005/07/19/what-happened-to-yaml/ MKoool (!) is looking for the simplest way of stripping non-printable characters from text: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/23d6fdc3c9148725 Discovering WSGI and XSLT as middleware http://www.decafbad.com/blog/2005/07/18/discovering_wsgi_and_xslt_as_middleware Is there any worthwhile Python certification available? Is there any worthwhile certification at all? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/49dc79507ca4567d Microsoft's very own Python scripts: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/python/pyindex.mspx Another notable release; python-dateutil 1.0: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/7d0f044f1a3c8959 Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional center of Pythonia http://www.python.org Notice especially the master FAQ http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the marvelous daily python url http://www.pythonware.com/daily Mygale is a news-gathering webcrawler that specializes in (new) World-Wide Web articles related to Python. http://www.awaretek.com/nowak/mygale.html While cosmetically similar, Mygale and the Daily Python-URL are utterly different in their technologies and generally in their results. For far, FAR more Python reading than any one mind should absorb, much of it quite interesting, several pages index much of the universe of Pybloggers. http://lowlife.jp/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/PythonProgrammersWeblog http://www.planetpython.org/ http://mechanicalcat.net/pyblagg.html comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software. Be sure to scan this newsgroup weekly. http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=comp.lang.python.announce Steve Bethard, Tim Lesher, and Tony Meyer continue the marvelous tradition early borne by Andrew Kuchling, Michael Hudson and Brett Cannon of intelligently summarizing action on the python-dev mailing list once every other week. http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ The Python Package Index catalogues packages. http://www.python.org/pypi/ The somewhat older Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collects references to all sorts of Python resources. http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/ Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group mailing lists http://www.python.org/sigs/ Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're subject with a vision of what the language makes practical. http://www.pythonology.com/success The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python Consortium as an independent nexus of activity. It has official responsibility for Python's development and maintenance. http://www.python.org/psf/ Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation. http://www.python.org/psf/donate.html Kurt B. Kaiser publishes a weekly report on faults and patches. http://www.google.com/groups?as_usubject=weekly%20python%20patch Cetus collects Python hyperlinks. http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html Python FAQTS http://python.faqts.com/ The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and interesting recipes.
Re: About undisclosed recipient
Hi! Thanks for Your info!! It was very usefull for me! :-) Thanks once again! On 7/9/05, Jeff Epler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You provided far too little information for us to be able to help. If you are using smtplib, it doesn't even look at message's headers to find the recipient list; you must use the rcpt() method to specify each one. If you are using the sendmail method, the to_addrs list has no relationship to the headers of the actual message---it simply calls rcpt() once for each address in to_addrs. The example in the docstring doesn't even *have* a To: header in the message! Jeff -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Dose someone have installed python on IRIX ?
Hi, No I have not done it before, but no one is able to help you if you do not post what kind of errors you are getting. Basically if it compiled and linked ok, maybe you specified something in the ./configure script that the plattform does not support... Hugo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
How to limit the uploading file size in python?
Dear All, In Php we can limit the uploading file size by php.ini configuration file. But In python what way we can limit the file uploading size. kindly let me know. regards Prabahar __ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your friends 'n family snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://in.photos.yahoo.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
Jp Calderone wrote: In the particular case of wxWidgets, it turns out that the *GUI* blocks for long periods of time, preventing the *network* from getting attention. But I agree with your position for other toolkits, such as Gtk, Qt, or Tk. Are you simply showing that there are two points of view here, that one can look at the wx main loop as being blocking, waiting for I/O, even though it is simply doing asynchronous event-driven processing the same as Twisted? Or am I missing something? Allowing for the fact that wx blocks, not just for long periods of time, but *indefinitely* (as long as no events are arriving) I still don't see how that makes it different from Twisted or from any other typical GUI framework, which do exactly the same thing. (And since there is even a wxPython main loop integrated with and provided in Twisted, surely you aren't arguing that what wx does is somehow unusual or bad.) Or are you simply saying that parts of wx are slow and take a while to complete operations? If that's all, I haven't seen such behaviour... what areas are of concern? -Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python Game Programming Challenge update
There's only one week to go before registration opens for the first Python Game Programming Challenge (also known as PyWeek). That means there's only (checks website) 37 days to go before the challenge starts! If you have a Python-based graphics, sound, music or game library that you'd like to use or promote in the challenge, then you've only got 7 days to make it public. Write some simple API docs and submit it to http://www.python.org/pypi. Couldn't be easier! For those who came in late, the PyWeek challenge: 1. Invites all Python programmers to write a game in one week from scratch either as an individual or in a team, 2. Must be challenging and fun, 3. Entries must be developed during the competition, and must incorporate some theme decided at the start of the competition, 4. Will hopefully increase the public body of python game tools, code and expertise, 5. Will let a lot of people actually finish a game, and 6. May inspire new projects (with ready made teams!) --- Visit the PyWeek website: http://www.mechanicalcat.net/tech/PyWeek/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: mod_python Apache/2.0.52 (Win32) Python 2.4
Thanks everybody, I followed the link Waldemar had provided and there I found what I was looking for. Dieter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using SHFileOperation
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Re: Ann: Tkinter drag and drop module
yup. that's exactly what i did, on win2k... somehow, i was surprised that it would work - the filepath + file name from the binary i'd dragged and dropped onto the .exe file was properly passed to the frozen python script as an arg... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to limit the uploading file size in python?
Hello Prabahar, It entirely depends on the mechanism you are using to receive the file (there is no generic solution). Is it within a CGI ? The normal way would be to check the file sized and discard if it's too big. You'll have to do it within your code - but it's probably a one line check ! Best Regards, Fuzzy http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Generating images with text in them
On Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:59 pm, phil hunt wrote: I am trying to generate some images (gifs or pngs) with text in them. I can use the Python Imaging Library, but it only has access to the default, rather crappy, font. On the fly, or just during development? In any case, you should be aware of the Skencil vector graphic program which is written in Python (with some C extensions), and which is also, of course, a python vector-graphics library. Unfortunately, getting it to work in a server environment might not be too pretty (requires GTK, etc, even if you don't actually use it). I tried to make a stripped down version that didn't require the desktop stuff, but it hasn't worked out so well yet. Alternately, is there a good source of PIL font files (.pil files) somewhere? I believe there is a utility for converting other types of fonts, you might have to go through a couple of different conversions from the font files you have. If the writers of the Python Imaging Library are reading this, may I suggest that they add more fonts to it. Yes, that would increase the size, but these days disk space is cheap and programmer time expensive. While bitmap font files are not copyrightable, there are license issues with most of the nicer fonts you are probably talking about. That complicates bundling them with the software. The PIL site does actually have some additional fonts for download, though, IIRC. -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: Lots of pdf files
[Greg Lindstrom] | There does not appear to be a simple way to merge many pdf's | into one. I'm currently using ghostscript (on Win32) to merge multiple postscript files into one PDF (by specifying multiple inputs to the gswin32c command). I imagine it can do the same for multiple PDF inputs on Linux. TJG This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Web-Forms
Hi, I need to access some information from a web site which are only accessible through a form. Thus for each bucket of data you have to fill out the form, submit it and wait for an answer. Very easy - if you don't have to check some hundred times. Of course this site requires cookies, it is not directly accessible by URL and so on. All that nice stuff used to make a web site more professional;) But now the question: how can this be solved by using Python? Mathias -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I just wanna know about os.path module..
kimes wrote: You said 'At first os - module, or package, it doesn't matter here - is imported.' With a file mop.py in your path import mop creates a module instance and executes mop.py to fill it with content -- classes, functions, whatever python objects you can think of -- and puts that module instance into the sys.modules cache. With a file mop/__init__.py, the process is the same except that the code to fill the module is taken from the __init__.py file. Differences only appear when you try to import submodules. I'm still confused about that.. When I just call import os.path without calling import os.. In that case, you mean 'import os' is called implicitly? Yes. Try it yourself with a package/submodule where __init__.py and submodule.py just contain a print statement. I find such an experimental approach often more convenient than haunting the docs. Why? and How? Because it's a sensible assumption that a submodule depends on its parent package? Because it makes access of submodules as easy as attribute access for any other object? Because it makes conditional imports easy (see Terry's post)? Because it's the simplest approach that just works? how python knows it should call import when we call import os? Please make me clear.. :) Conceptually, when you have a module alpha.beta.gamma you need just a bit of string processing. alpha.beta.gamma.split() -- aah, I have to import alpha, then alpha.beta, then alpha.beta.gamma... read the source for the strategy that is actually taken if you really care. Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to use octave in python
And or numarray :) http://www.stsci.edu/resources/software_hardware/numarray -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Couple quick questions from a Python Noob
Hey, I just started on Python and have a few questions I couldn't find answers to on the Python site or it's tutorial. 1. I notice a few compiled python files (indicated by reddish snake icons), I thought Python didn't need to be compiled? This is my first venture into programming, but if it doesn't need to be compiled why compile it? 2. What is a .pwy file? 3. I want to save my first few programs as .exe files so I can show them off to all my leet friends. Okay, so the only program I've made takes your birthday and tells you what you're astrological sign is, but I'm in rural Nebraska and we don't have all that much to do :) Thanks for any help you guys! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
spurious syntax error when updating to 2.4 ?
Hi, I'm doing some preparation for a hopefully upcoming transition to python 2.4 (from 2.3.4) on winxp platform However, I'm getting SyntaxErrors in files that worked fine in 2.3, it tells me that e.g. newLanguage.language = languageElement[0].firstChild.data.encode(ascii) this line is broken However, if I modify my file just for the heck of it and comment that particular line, I still might get syntax error on that particular line, or if I insert a line before that particular line I might get away with it? Has anyone seen anything similar, or even better knows what causes this? /Simon -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Copying attributes
Terry Hancock wrote: I'm not sure either, yet, but can you indicate which line in your listing is 102 in the source file? That might be helpful. 101: ## f1.normal = copy.deepcopy(f.normal) 102:f1.normal = NMesh.Vert(f.normal[0], f.normal[1], f.normal[2]) I've tried with deepcopy, but the result is exactly same. -- _red _ __ _ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: returning list of strings from Python COM to Visual basic 6
You have to wrap the python object with a COM object: def Get_Obj(self): return win32com.server.util.wrap(an_object) Stefan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philippe C. Martin Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:42 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: returning list of strings from Python COM to Visual basic 6 I can now pass and return quite a few types except object instances: my python code gets to the point where I do: def Get_Obj(self): . return an_object My VB code looks like Dim obj as Variant obj = acom.Get_Obj() I get an unexpected Python error . Objects of type 'instance' can not be converted to a COM VARIANT Is there a way out ? Thanks, Philippe Philippe C. Martin wrote: Hi, Is it possible ? ex: return ['1','2'] If so which type should I use in VB ? dim res as ??? Set testObj = CreateObject() res = testObj.AMethodThatReturnsAListOfStrings() Thanks, Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list The Leading Manufacturing Test Company of the Year 2005 http://www.dspace.de/goto?f_s_award -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is this pythonic?
Mage wrote: Or is there better way? for (i, url) in [(i,links[i]) for i in range(len(links))]: ... links is a list. for i, url in enumerate(links): -- Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Couple quick questions from a Python Noob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, I just started on Python and have a few questions I couldn't find
answers to on the Python site or it's tutorial.
1. I notice a few compiled python files (indicated by reddish snake
icons), I thought Python didn't need to be compiled? This is my first
venture into programming, but if it doesn't need to be compiled why
compile it?
Just like Java, the Python interpreter runs python byte-code. The Python
compiler compile Python source code into Python byte-code. Now the
difference with Java is that you don't have to manually call the
compiler - the interpreter will do it for you if and when needed.
If you don't know what 'byte-code' is, it's just like a machine language
(op-codes and the like) for a processor that doesn't exists - in fact
this 'processor' is the interpreter (or 'Virtual Machine') itself.
The main purpose is to have something that execute faster than purely
interpreted languages (since parsing is already done), and is still
portable between platforms (which is not that much important with
Python, since we usually distribute the source files...).
2. What is a .pwy file?
(isn't that .pyw ?)
It's a Windows-only stuff that avoid the DOS shell window to be opened
when executing the script.
3. I want to save my first few programs as .exe files so I can show
them off to all my leet friends.
'.exe' files are Windows-specific. Python doesn't handle this out of the
box. But there are programs like py2exe (and others, don't remember
their name) that 'freeze' your script, the interpreter and all needed
librairies in a .exe.
HTH
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p in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.split('@')])
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Re: File Table List in Plone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
Is there is a Plone type or product for generating a file list on a
plone page, eg: a list of downloadable files in a table? An example of
what I want can be found at
http://www.zope.org/Members/MacGregor/ExtFile under Available
Releases where a list of files resides.
Is this a manually generated table or is there a way I can drop a Plone
type into a page to generate such a list?
I think you'll get better answers on a plone mailing-list.
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p in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.split('@')])
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Re: Python IDE
ok will give it a shot. I had tried the 0.7.2 version with wxPython 2.6 and the moment i place the cursor in a class name and pressed the space or the enter key.booom there it went crashing without a trace. But i did like what little i saw of it (apart from the crashes, of course) and the UML diagram feature was just great. Lemme use this version and then i can give some feedback. One more thingI'm trying to use the wxStyledTextCtrl in one of my programsany pointers to where I can find a good tutorialTried yellowbrain.com but it just has the docs and not a tutorial. Thanks a ton and keep up the good work -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lots of pdf files
Greg Lindstrom wrote: Hello- I'm running Python 2.3 on a Linux system and have lots (about 2000) files in pdf format to print each day. If I just wind up and fire all the files at the printer at once (as 2000 separate print jobs), the print server throws a fit and our system admin comes down and slaps me around for a few minutes (which, I guess, is fair). Are your sure it is the number (and not the sum of the sizes) of the jobs your admin is worrying about? What about #!/bin/sh for i in *.pdf; do lpr $i sleep 10 done (maybe adding something that waits until the queue is empty instead of sleep)? Ralf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
Cheers for the replies people, but I got it sorted by just whacking in wx.YieldIfNeeded() in the code before it communicates over the socket. It's kind of jerky, but it works, where as before I'd click and drag, and the 3d view wouldn't move for about 20 seconds. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
newbie - mode for directory
Hello, When using os.mkdir, what are the numeric numbers for different modes? I could only find mode=0777 means read-only. Thanks, - wcc -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: newbie - mode for directory
wcc enlightened us with: When using os.mkdir, what are the numeric numbers for different modes? man chmod Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
wxPythin installation woes
Hi all, Was working with python 2.3 in a fedora core 3 machine. I upgraded it to Fedora Core 4 with a clean install. So now I have python 2.4 installed. But when I try to install wxPython for python 2.4 using an rpm file i downloaded from the wxpython web site i get dependencies errors. Turns out that libstdc++.so.5 is needed but I checked and i see that libstdc++.so.6 is installed on my system. Help needed guys and needed pronto. Thanks a ton once again :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python Path Setting
Hello, I'm trying to find some detailed documentation about PYTHONPATH, paths.pth, lib/site-packages, sitecustomise and so on. I know what they do but I'd like some detailed documentation about what gets loaded where and when. However I can't find the documentation on this. Googling for 'python PYTHONPATH' give me a bunch of stuff about setting the pythonpath for a specific app or about pythonpath itself but not the whole range of options as detailed above. However, I'd like more documentation about search paths, module loading and the like - does anyone know where I can find this? Cheers, Neil -- Neil Benn Senior Automation Engineer Cenix BioScience BioInnovations Zentrum Tatzberg 47 D-01307 Dresden Germany Tel : +49 (0)351 4173 154 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cenix Website : http://www.cenix-bioscience.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
wxPythin installation woes
Hi all, Was working with python 2.3 in a fedora core 3 machine. I upgraded it to Fedora Core 4 with a clean install. So now I have python 2.4 installed. But when I try to install wxPython for python 2.4 using an rpm file i downloaded from the wxpython web site i get dependencies errors. Turns out that libstdc++.so.5 is needed but I checked and i see that libstdc++.so.6 is installed on my system. Help needed guys and needed pronto. Thanks a ton once again :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web-Forms
On 7/21/05, Mathias Waack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to access some information from a web site which are only accessible through a form. Thus for each bucket of data you have to fill out the form, submit it and wait for an answer. Very easy - if you don't have to check some hundred times. Of course this site requires cookies, it is not directly accessible by URL and so on. All that nice stuff used to make a web site more professional;) But now the question: how can this be solved by using Python? Mechanize? http://wwwsearch.sourceforge.net/mechanize/ -- Cheers, Simon B, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lots of pdf files
Greg Lindstrom wrote: I'm running Python 2.3 on a Linux system and have lots (about 2000) files in pdf format to print each day. If I just wind up and fire all the files at the printer at once (as 2000 separate print jobs), the print server throws a fit and our system admin comes down and slaps me around for a few minutes (which, I guess, is fair). There does not appear to be a simple way to merge many pdf's into one. I could, for example, merge all of the files for a particular provider into one pdf for that provider and then print it (or, better yet...encrypt it and ship it!), but I do not see a way. A quick Google search turns up lots of program which claim to merge PDFs files. e.g. http://www.verypdf.com/pdfpg/index.html (for a mere $29.90, except it is GPL'd so I'm not sure what the money is for). Or perhaps PDCAT, http://www.pdf-tools.com/asp/products.asp?name=CLE for $150, or $250 if you want to be able to encrypt the output and ship it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is a file open ?
John Machin wrote: Daniel Dittmar wrote: luis wrote: for root, dirs, files in os.walk(path): for file in files: # ¿ is opened ? On Linux and some other Unixes, you can probably read the /proc filesystem. On Windows, you'll probably get the quickest result by running handle.exe (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Handle.html). Either way, the information you'll get is restricted by your permissions. Either information will get stale really fast, so it's not suitable if your task is something like 'can I backup this directory or is someone writing to a file?' If that's what the OP had in mind, the question might have been better phrased as given the path to a file, how can I tell if it is currently opened by another process/thread, and better directed to OS-specifc newsgroup(s). there is a specific python function ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is a file open ?
John Machin wrote: Daniel Dittmar wrote: luis wrote: for root, dirs, files in os.walk(path): for file in files: # ¿ is opened ? On Linux and some other Unixes, you can probably read the /proc filesystem. On Windows, you'll probably get the quickest result by running handle.exe (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Handle.html). Either way, the information you'll get is restricted by your permissions. Either information will get stale really fast, so it's not suitable if your task is something like 'can I backup this directory or is someone writing to a file?' If that's what the OP had in mind, the question might have been better phrased as given the path to a file, how can I tell if it is currently opened by another process/thread, and better directed to OS-specifc newsgroup(s). there is a specific python function ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Couple quick questions from a Python Noob
For compiling Python, http://effbot.org/zone/python-compile.htm appears to have some information, although I've never done it myself, so I wouldn't know any more on the matter. Also http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/py2exe/ appears to have something on Python- .exe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Generating images with text in them
phil hunt wrote: I am trying to generate some images (gifs or pngs) with text in them. I can use the Python Imaging Library, but it only has access to the default, rather crappy, font. Ideally I'd like to use one of the nicer fonts that come with my X Windows installation. Using Tkinter I can draw these fonts on the screen; is there any way to get these fonts into a bitmapped image? For example, can I draw some text on a canvas and then grab that canvas as a bitmap into PIL, and then save it as a file? Alternately, is there a good source of PIL font files (.pil files) somewhere? If the writers of the Python Imaging Library are reading this, may I suggest that they add more fonts to it. Yes, that would increase the size, but these days disk space is cheap and programmer time expensive. I've just been playing around with this. You can use truetype fonts with: font = ImageFont.truetype(/path/to/font.ttf, 12) from version 1.1.4 http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/imagefont.htm for more details HTH Daren -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Generating images with text in them
Have you downloaded the pilfonts.zip from effbot.org? J phil hunt wrote: I am trying to generate some images (gifs or pngs) with text in them. I can use the Python Imaging Library, but it only has access to the default, rather crappy, font. Ideally I'd like to use one of the nicer fonts that come with my X Windows installation. Using Tkinter I can draw these fonts on the screen; is there any way to get these fonts into a bitmapped image? For example, can I draw some text on a canvas and then grab that canvas as a bitmap into PIL, and then save it as a file? Alternately, is there a good source of PIL font files (.pil files) somewhere? If the writers of the Python Imaging Library are reading this, may I suggest that they add more fonts to it. Yes, that would increase the size, but these days disk space is cheap and programmer time expensive. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: returning list of strings from Python COM to Visual basic 6
Thanks a bunch, I'll try this, This raises two questions: 1) How do I declare the receiving VB variable ? 2) Then, can I use the returned object as a COM object: call its public methods (that would be hot)? Dim newobj as ? newobj = acom.Get_Obj() newobj.A_Public() Regards, Philippe On Thursday 21 July 2005 09:55 am, Stefan Schukat wrote: You have to wrap the python object with a COM object: def Get_Obj(self): return win32com.server.util.wrap(an_object) Stefan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philippe C. Martin Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:42 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: returning list of strings from Python COM to Visual basic 6 I can now pass and return quite a few types except object instances: my python code gets to the point where I do: def Get_Obj(self): . return an_object My VB code looks like Dim obj as Variant obj = acom.Get_Obj() I get an unexpected Python error . Objects of type 'instance' can not be converted to a COM VARIANT Is there a way out ? Thanks, Philippe Philippe C. Martin wrote: Hi, Is it possible ? ex: return ['1','2'] If so which type should I use in VB ? dim res as ??? Set testObj = CreateObject() res = testObj.AMethodThatReturnsAListOfStrings() Thanks, Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list The Leading Manufacturing Test Company of the Year 2005 http://www.dspace.de/goto?f_s_award -- * Philippe C. Martin SnakeCard, LLC www.snakecard.com +1 405 694 8098 * -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
UPDATE: SPE 0.7.4.d Python Editor released
Something which prevented SPE 0.7.4.a to start is fixed Stani PS http://www.stani.be/python/spe/blog -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: gdb python C API
derrick a écrit : are there any tools / methods that others have used to get what line of the python script is being executed while running in gdb? or if it would actually show me the source python script (instead of the the python c source) that would help. I don't think so, but when having a memory problem I usually find valgrind very useful. http://valgrind.org/ HTH -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
A sad story about a real Python
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Re: wxPythin installation woes
linuxfreak enlightened us with: Turns out that libstdc++.so.5 is needed but I checked and i see that libstdc++.so.6 is installed on my system. On my system (Ubuntu, based on Debian), I can have multiple versions of libstdc++ installed at the same time. Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is a file open ?
luis wrote: John Machin wrote: Daniel Dittmar wrote: luis wrote: for root, dirs, files in os.walk(path): for file in files: # ¿ is opened ? On Linux and some other Unixes, you can probably read the /proc filesystem. On Windows, you'll probably get the quickest result by running handle.exe (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Handle.html). Either way, the information you'll get is restricted by your permissions. Either information will get stale really fast, so it's not suitable if your task is something like 'can I backup this directory or is someone writing to a file?' If that's what the OP had in mind, the question might have been better phrased as given the path to a file, how can I tell if it is currently opened by another process/thread, and better directed to OS-specifc newsgroup(s). there is a specific python function ? If you mean is there a Python function that given a filename, returns an indication of whether that file has been opened by another process/thread, portably across different operating systems? then the answer is NO. This is what I meant by the question might have been ... better directed to OS-specifc newsgroup(s). That is what you should have inferred from Daniel's reply On Linux ... probably ... On Windows ... probably If you mean something else, you might like to try rephrasing your question. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: spurious syntax error when updating to 2.4 ?
Replying to self, it seems to be related to https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1163244group_id=5470atid=105470 (Syntax error on large file with MBCS encoding) even though my files had # -*- coding: ascii -*- However, if I removed this explicit ascii encoding then I did not get any syntax error. /Simon -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: gdb python C API
fraca7 derrick a écrit : are there any tools / methods that others have used to get what line of the python script is being executed while running in gdb? or if it would actually show me the source python script (instead of the the python c source) that would help. fraca7 I don't think so, but when having a memory problem I usually fraca7 find valgrind very useful. Actually, take a look in the distribution at Misc/gdbinit. In particular, check out the pystack command. Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UPDATE: SPE 0.7.4.d Python Editor released
I just dloaded 0.7.4.b an hour ago... your quik. Ha...lol. :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: gdb python C API
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Actually, take a look in the distribution at Misc/gdbinit. In particular, check out the pystack command. Wow, nice! This will be put to good use, thanks :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python Path Setting
http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.1/inst/search-path.html#SECTION00041 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lots of pdf files
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Lindstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There does not appear to be a simple way to merge many pdf's into one. There's probably some way to do it with pstops or some related program or set of programs. Google for multivalent tools - a collection of Java applications for PDF manipulation... N. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
print pdf file to network printer using python
Well, Ive been searching through google groups and Ive seen a lot about printing a pdf file, but I havent seen a definite answer. I tried this code: f = open(printer_path, 'w') f.write(pdffile_path) f.close() Basically it doesnt work and what it prints out is the value of pdffile_path variable. If anyone can offer some help, Id appreaciate it thanks! --Barry -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: returning list of strings from Python COM to Visual basic 6
I guess that also means (which makes sense) that the returned object has to be registered as a COM object. However, in my case, I just needed that object to pass it to yet another object, I did not need to use it from VB Regards, Philippe Philippe C. Martin wrote: Thanks a bunch, I'll try this, This raises two questions: 1) How do I declare the receiving VB variable ? 2) Then, can I use the returned object as a COM object: call its public methods (that would be hot)? Dim newobj as ? newobj = acom.Get_Obj() newobj.A_Public() Regards, Philippe On Thursday 21 July 2005 09:55 am, Stefan Schukat wrote: You have to wrap the python object with a COM object: def Get_Obj(self): return win32com.server.util.wrap(an_object) Stefan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philippe C. Martin Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:42 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: returning list of strings from Python COM to Visual basic 6 I can now pass and return quite a few types except object instances: my python code gets to the point where I do: def Get_Obj(self): . return an_object My VB code looks like Dim obj as Variant obj = acom.Get_Obj() I get an unexpected Python error . Objects of type 'instance' can not be converted to a COM VARIANT Is there a way out ? Thanks, Philippe Philippe C. Martin wrote: Hi, Is it possible ? ex: return ['1','2'] If so which type should I use in VB ? dim res as ??? Set testObj = CreateObject() res = testObj.AMethodThatReturnsAListOfStrings() Thanks, Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list The Leading Manufacturing Test Company of the Year 2005 http://www.dspace.de/goto?f_s_award -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:51:45 -0400, Christopher Subich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jp Calderone wrote: In the particular case of wxWidgets, it turns out that the *GUI* blocks for long periods of time, preventing the *network* from getting attention. But I agree with your position for other toolkits, such as Gtk, Qt, or Tk. Wow, I'm not familiar with wxWidgets; how's that work? wxWidgets' event loop doesn't differentiate between two unrelated (but similar sounding) concepts: blocking arbitrary input from the user (as in the case of modal dialogs) and blocking execution of code. When you pop up a modal dialog, your code will not get another chance to run until the user dismisses it. Similarly, as long as a menu is open, your code will not get to run. Jp -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
On 20 Jul 2005 22:06:31 -0700, Paul Rubin http://phr.cx@nospam.invalid wrote: Christopher Subich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the particular case of wxWidgets, it turns out that the *GUI* blocks for long periods of time, preventing the *network* from getting attention. But I agree with your position for other toolkits, such as Gtk, Qt, or Tk. Wow, I'm not familiar with wxWidgets; how's that work? Huh? It's pretty normal, the gui blocks while waiting for events from the window system. I expect that Qt and Tk work the same way. But not Gtk? :) I meant what I said: wxWidgets behaves differently in this regard than Gtk, Qt, and Tk. Jp -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 05:42:32 -, Donn Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]: | Christopher Subich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | In the particular case of wxWidgets, it turns out that the *GUI* | blocks for long periods of time, preventing the *network* from | getting attention. But I agree with your position for other | toolkits, such as Gtk, Qt, or Tk. | | Wow, I'm not familiar with wxWidgets; how's that work? | | Huh? It's pretty normal, the gui blocks while waiting for events | from the window system. I expect that Qt and Tk work the same way. In fact anything works that way, that being the nature of I/O. But usually there's a way to add your own I/O source to be dispatched along with the UI events -- the toolkit will for example use select() to wait for X11 socket I/O, so it can also respond to incoming data on another socket, provided along with a callback function by the application. Am I hearing that wxWindows or other popular toolkits don't provide any such feature, and need multiple threads for this reason? Other popular toolkits do. wxWindows doesn't. Jp -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: popen2 usage
Actually, -test1 is a text argument that testme.exe should receive
from standard input. For example,
Executing testme.exe generates the following output,
Please select one of the following options:
1) test1
2) test2
3) exit
Please enter your option here:-test1 -This -test1 is what user would
type
Thanks,
-JB
Steven Bethard wrote:
jb wrote:
Hi there:
I need help with popen2 usage. I am coding on Windows 2000 environment
and I am basically trying to run command line executable program that
accepts command line arguments from user. I want to be able to provide
these arguments through input pipe so that executable does not require
any intervention from the user. The way I am doing this is as below:
out1, in1 = popen2.popen2(testme.exe abc.txt)
in1.write('-test1')
in1.flush()
in1.close()
But this does not seem to be working, when I open abc.txt file it does
not show '-test1' argument that was supplied via in1.write method. This
causing executable to wait forever unless user manually kills the
process.
I'm confused; is -test1 a command line argument to testme.exe? Or is
it the text that testme.exe should receive from standard input?
Either way, I would suggest using subprocess instead of popen*.
To pass -test1 as a command line argument, do something like:
import subprocess as sp
p = sp.Popen([testme.exe, -test1], stdout=sp.PIPE)
out1 = sp.stdout.read()
To pass -test1 through standard input, do something like:
import subprocess as sp
p = sp.Popen([testme.exe], stdout=sp.PIPE)
p.stdin.write(-test1)
p.stdin.flush()
p.stdin.close()
out1 = p.stdout
HTH,
STeVe
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Buffering problem using subprocess module
I am using the subprocess module in 2.4. Here's the fragment:
bufcaller.py:
import sys, subprocess
proc = subprocess.Popen('python bufcallee.py', bufsize=0, shell=True,
stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
for line in proc.stdout:
sys.stdout.write(line)
bufcallee.py:
import time
print 'START'
time.sleep(10)
print 'STOP'
Although the documentation says that the output should be unbuffered
(bufsize=0) the program (bufcaller) pauses for 10 seconds and then
prints START immediately followed by 'STOP' rather than pausing 10
seconds in between them. Note that I made bufcallee a Python script
for ease of the example but in the real-world problem I am trying to
solve it is simply an executable.
Any ideas?
Jeff
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Re: Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 02:33:05 -0400, Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jp Calderone wrote: In the particular case of wxWidgets, it turns out that the *GUI* blocks for long periods of time, preventing the *network* from getting attention. But I agree with your position for other toolkits, such as Gtk, Qt, or Tk. Are you simply showing that there are two points of view here, that one can look at the wx main loop as being blocking, waiting for I/O, even though it is simply doing asynchronous event-driven processing the same as Twisted? Or am I missing something? Allowing for the fact that wx blocks, not just for long periods of time, but *indefinitely* (as long as no events are arriving) I still don't see how that makes it different from Twisted or from any other typical GUI framework, which do exactly the same thing. (And since there is even a wxPython main loop integrated with and provided in Twisted, surely you aren't arguing that what wx does is somehow unusual or bad.) Providing wx support in Twisted has been orders of magnitude more difficult than providing Tk, Qt, or Gtk support has been. And wxsupport and wxreactor are each broken in slightly different ways, so I wouldn't say we've been successful, either. Blocking inside the mainloop while waiting for events is fine. It's blocking elsewhere that is problematic. Jp -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Listing Processes Running on Remote Machines
Hello Hackers, I'm developing a large scale distributed service and part of the requirement is that I be able to monitor clients in a very granular way. To this end, I'd like to know if there is any way to get a list of all the processes running on a remote client\machine. I need to be able to do this on demand. (i.e on user demand) Please note that the clients run heterogeneous operating systems mainly Linux and Windows2000\XP -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Buffering problem using subprocess module
On 21 Jul 2005 06:14:25 -0700, Dr. Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am using the subprocess module in 2.4. Here's the fragment:
bufcaller.py:
import sys, subprocess
proc = subprocess.Popen('python bufcallee.py', bufsize=0, shell=True,
stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
for line in proc.stdout:
sys.stdout.write(line)
bufcallee.py:
import time
print 'START'
time.sleep(10)
print 'STOP'
Although the documentation says that the output should be unbuffered
(bufsize=0) the program (bufcaller) pauses for 10 seconds and then
prints START immediately followed by 'STOP' rather than pausing 10
seconds in between them. Note that I made bufcallee a Python script
for ease of the example but in the real-world problem I am trying to
solve it is simply an executable.
Any ideas?
There are a few places buffering can come into play. The bufsize parameter to
Popen() controls buffering on the reading side, but it has no effect on
buffering on the writing side. If you add a sys.stdout.flush() after the
prints in the child process, you should see the bytes show up immediately.
Another possibility is to start Python in unbuffered mode (pass the -u flag, or
set PYTHONUNBUFFERED in the environment), but obviously this only applies to
Python programs. Still another possibility (generally the nicest) is to use a
PTY instead of a pipe: when the C library sees stdout is a pipe, it generally
decides to put output into a different buffering mode than when it sees stdout
is a pty. I'm not sure how you use ptys with the subprocess module.
Hope this helps,
Jp
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RE: Listing Processes Running on Remote Machines
Look into STAF http://staf.sourceforge.net/index.php -g -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yoda Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:23 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Listing Processes Running on Remote Machines Hello Hackers, I'm developing a large scale distributed service and part of the requirement is that I be able to monitor clients in a very granular way. To this end, I'd like to know if there is any way to get a list of all the processes running on a remote client\machine. I need to be able to do this on demand. (i.e on user demand) Please note that the clients run heterogeneous operating systems mainly Linux and Windows2000\XP -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPythin installation woes
Does anyone know if the same can be done in fedora distributions??? Sybren Stuvel wrote: linuxfreak enlightened us with: Turns out that libstdc++.so.5 is needed but I checked and i see that libstdc++.so.6 is installed on my system. On my system (Ubuntu, based on Debian), I can have multiple versions of libstdc++ installed at the same time. Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filling up commands.getstatusoutput's buffer
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 03:10:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Has anyone ever had commands.getstatusoutput's buffer fill up when executing a verbose command? [...] How much output are you talking about? I tried outputs as large as about 260 megabytes without any problem. (RedHat 9, Python 2.2) len(commands.getoutput(dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=512000 2/dev/null)) 262144000 512 * 512000 262144000 Jeff pgpwMseDka1nF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is this pythonic?
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:30:10 -0400, Bill Mill wrote: On 7/20/05, Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/20/05, Mage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is there better way? for (i, url) in [(i,links[i]) for i in range(len(links))]: for i, url in enumerate(links): +2 for creating seeing a need and crafting a reasonable solution, but -1 for not reading the section on builtins to see if it existed already. To see if *what* existed already? It is well and good to say RTFM, but there are 697 subsections to the Python Library reference, and if you don't know what you are looking for, and beginners rarely are, it isn't obvious which is the right section to read. And the Library Reference isn't even the manual: there is also the global module reference and language reference. If you already know what you are looking for, reading the manual is great advice. Browsing the manual looking for interesting tidbits can even be fun for a certain mindset. But if you don't know enough to know what to look for, where in the 2000-odd sections of the Python references will you find it? (As for its pythonicity, I would have recommended isolating it into a function and making it a generator: It is easy to take this to extremes. It isn't necessary to isolate everything into its own object, or class, or module. Too much encapsulation is just as bad as too little. def my_enumerate(enumerable): i = 0 for elt in enumerable: yield (i, elt) i += 1 for i, url in my_enumerate(links): but it's not too bad as it is. Also, my function is completely untested - it's close to right though.) What is the advantage of your function my_enumerate over the Python built-in enumerate? -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: goto
My favorite infinte loop with while is: i = 0 while i 20: do_process(i) Note the prominent *lack* of any change to i here? Oh, for: from i = 0 invariant 0 = i = 20 variant 21 - i until i 19 loop do_process(i) which throws an exception at the beginning of the second loop. What language is that from? I take it the exception is from the 21-i not changing as it goes around the loop, right? (But why can't variant i work just as well?) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Jul 20)
QOTW: Discussing goto statements and Microsoft together is like mixing dynamite and gasoline. - DH 'Spaghetti doesn't quite describe it. I've settled on Lovecraftian: reading the code, you can't help but get the impression of writhing tentacles and impossible angles.' - Robert Kern Highlight of the week; Jython 2.2a1: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/9c3b6b2e10d8a490 Nearly-highlight of the week; Simon Willison introduces Django, the web framework for perfectionists with deadlines: http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2005/07/17/django But Jeff Shell remains more impressed with Subway: http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2005/07/python-off-rails.html CherryPy-2.1.0-beta released: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/18f2e97ab515891 With all this web framework activity, what are people using? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/63bdf6b93e1704d3 Bob Ippolito wonders; what happened to YAML? http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2005/07/19/what-happened-to-yaml/ MKoool (!) is looking for the simplest way of stripping non-printable characters from text: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/23d6fdc3c9148725 Discovering WSGI and XSLT as middleware http://www.decafbad.com/blog/2005/07/18/discovering_wsgi_and_xslt_as_middleware Is there any worthwhile Python certification available? Is there any worthwhile certification at all? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/49dc79507ca4567d Microsoft's very own Python scripts: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/python/pyindex.mspx Another notable release; python-dateutil 1.0: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/7d0f044f1a3c8959 Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional center of Pythonia http://www.python.org Notice especially the master FAQ http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the marvelous daily python url http://www.pythonware.com/daily Mygale is a news-gathering webcrawler that specializes in (new) World-Wide Web articles related to Python. http://www.awaretek.com/nowak/mygale.html While cosmetically similar, Mygale and the Daily Python-URL are utterly different in their technologies and generally in their results. For far, FAR more Python reading than any one mind should absorb, much of it quite interesting, several pages index much of the universe of Pybloggers. http://lowlife.jp/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/PythonProgrammersWeblog http://www.planetpython.org/ http://mechanicalcat.net/pyblagg.html comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software. Be sure to scan this newsgroup weekly. http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=comp.lang.python.announce Steve Bethard, Tim Lesher, and Tony Meyer continue the marvelous tradition early borne by Andrew Kuchling, Michael Hudson and Brett Cannon of intelligently summarizing action on the python-dev mailing list once every other week. http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ The Python Package Index catalogues packages. http://www.python.org/pypi/ The somewhat older Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collects references to all sorts of Python resources. http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/ Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group mailing lists http://www.python.org/sigs/ Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're subject with a vision of what the language makes practical. http://www.pythonology.com/success The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python Consortium as an independent nexus of activity. It has official responsibility for Python's development and maintenance. http://www.python.org/psf/ Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation. http://www.python.org/psf/donate.html Kurt B. Kaiser publishes a weekly report on faults and patches. http://www.google.com/groups?as_usubject=weekly%20python%20patch Cetus collects Python hyperlinks. http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html Python FAQTS http://python.faqts.com/ The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and interesting recipes.
Re: is this pythonic?
On 7/21/05, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:30:10 -0400, Bill Mill wrote: On 7/20/05, Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/20/05, Mage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is there better way? for (i, url) in [(i,links[i]) for i in range(len(links))]: for i, url in enumerate(links): +2 for creating seeing a need and crafting a reasonable solution, but -1 for not reading the section on builtins to see if it existed already. To see if *what* existed already? It is well and good to say RTFM, but there are 697 subsections to the Python Library reference, and if you don't know what you are looking for, and beginners rarely are, it isn't obvious which is the right section to read. And the Library Reference isn't even the manual: there is also the global module reference and language reference. If you already know what you are looking for, reading the manual is great advice. Browsing the manual looking for interesting tidbits can even be fun for a certain mindset. But if you don't know enough to know what to look for, where in the 2000-odd sections of the Python references will you find it? I said the *builtins* section. I think you learn pretty quick that figuring out what functions are builtins is pretty important in every language. There's a fair number of people out there giving the advice to read chapter 2 of the library reference cover-to-cover for a good starter on python. Furthermore, I wasn't being hard on the guy, he still added up to +1. Lighten up, I was joking. (As for its pythonicity, I would have recommended isolating it into a function and making it a generator: It is easy to take this to extremes. It isn't necessary to isolate everything into its own object, or class, or module. Too much encapsulation is just as bad as too little. agreed; his listcomp just looks awkward inside the for loop statement; if it were my code, I would put it into a function. He asked if his code was pythonic, and I think the (non-extreme) pythonic thing to do would be to put his listcomp into a function. def my_enumerate(enumerable): i = 0 for elt in enumerable: yield (i, elt) i += 1 for i, url in my_enumerate(links): but it's not too bad as it is. Also, my function is completely untested - it's close to right though.) What is the advantage of your function my_enumerate over the Python built-in enumerate? absolutely none; I just was saying how I would encapsulate it into a function. Peace Bill Mill bill.mill at gmail.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python session handling
Hi, What is th best way for session tracking in python ? regards, mo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Stupid question: Making scripts python-scripts
Hello all, How do I make a python script actually a _python_ in unix:ish environments? I know about adding: #!/bin/sh ..as the first row in a shell script, but when I installed python on a NetBSD system, I didn't get a python executable; only a python2.4 executable. Adding #!/usr/pkg/bin/python2.4 as the first row in the script would probably work, but that would be too specific for the system I'm using, imho. I saw someone using #!/usr/bin/env python, but that failed on the system I'm using, so I assume that's something specific too (or is the installation broken?). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stupid question: Making scripts python-scripts
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:34:30 +0200, Jan Danielsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, How do I make a python script actually a _python_ in unix:ish environments? [snip] Put #!/usr/bin/python. Install the program using distutils: if necessary, distutils will rewrite the #! line to fit the configuration of the system the program is being installed on. Jp -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Overriding a built-in exception handler
I'm having a tough time figuring this one out: class MyKBInterrupt( . ): print Are you sure you want to do that? if __name__ == __main__: while 1: print Still here... So this thing keeps printing Still here... until the user hits ctl-c, at which time the exception is passed to MyKBInterrupt to handle the exception, rather than to whatever the built-in handler would be. I've Read-TFM, but I only see good info on how to create my own class of exception; I don't see anything on how to override an existing exception handler. Thanks in advance for any help. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stupid question: Making scripts python-scripts
On your system, do: which python2.4 That will give you the full path to the python2.4 binary (let's call it path/to/py24). Then add: #!/path/to/py24 ...to the top of your script. And make sure the file is chmod'd +x -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Overriding a built-in exception handler
On 21 Jul 2005 07:39:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a tough time figuring this one out: class MyKBInterrupt( . ): print Are you sure you want to do that? if __name__ == __main__: while 1: print Still here... So this thing keeps printing Still here... until the user hits ctl-c, at which time the exception is passed to MyKBInterrupt to handle the exception, rather than to whatever the built-in handler would be. I've Read-TFM, but I only see good info on how to create my own class of exception; I don't see anything on how to override an existing exception handler. Thanks in advance for any help. See excepthook in the sys module documentation: http://python.org/doc/lib/module-sys.html Jp -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stupid question: Making scripts python-scripts
On 7/21/05, Jan Danielsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, How do I make a python script actually a _python_ in unix:ish environments? I know about adding: #!/bin/sh ..as the first row in a shell script, but when I installed python on a NetBSD system, I didn't get a python executable; only a python2.4 executable. Adding #!/usr/pkg/bin/python2.4 as the first row in the script would probably work, but that would be too specific for the system I'm using, imho. I saw someone using #!/usr/bin/env python, but that failed on the system I'm using, so I assume that's something specific too (or is the installation broken?). The env program [1], which usually exists at least on a linux system, executes the program given as its argument. Thus, /usr/bin/env python tries to executes python, which bash will then use to run the python script. As long as env exists, and python is somewhere in the PATH, this is a fairly portable way to run python scripts. Does BSD really not come with the env program? I bet there's an equivalent you could symlink to it. Unfortunately, I've never BSDed, so I can't help you find it. To get a workable subset of the normal env functionality, you could try (assuming you use bash): /home/llimllib $ echo $@ /usr/bin/env /home/llimllib $ chmod a+x /usr/bin/env Peace Bill Mill bill.mill at gmail.com [1]: http://rootr.net/man/man/env/1 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Overriding a built-in exception handler
You can't override an exception. You can only catch whatever exception is thrown. For your case, you would want to wrap that while loop up in a try/catch block like this: try: while 1: print Yay for me! except KeyboardInterrupt: print CTRL-C caught Someone had mentioned possibly overriding sys.excepthook, but that doesn't really override an exception handler. That function is called when an unhandled exception occurs. That little hook is really nice if you want to display information back to the user and possibly report the info back to a server somewhere. jw On 21 Jul 2005 07:39:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a tough time figuring this one out: class MyKBInterrupt( . ): print Are you sure you want to do that? if __name__ == __main__: while 1: print Still here... So this thing keeps printing Still here... until the user hits ctl-c, at which time the exception is passed to MyKBInterrupt to handle the exception, rather than to whatever the built-in handler would be. I've Read-TFM, but I only see good info on how to create my own class of exception; I don't see anything on how to override an existing exception handler. Thanks in advance for any help. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stupid question: Making scripts python-scripts
On 7/21/05, Bill Mill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/21/05, Jan Danielsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, How do I make a python script actually a _python_ in unix:ish environments? I know about adding: #!/bin/sh ..as the first row in a shell script, but when I installed python on a NetBSD system, I didn't get a python executable; only a python2.4 executable. Adding #!/usr/pkg/bin/python2.4 as the first row in the script would probably work, but that would be too specific for the system I'm using, imho. I saw someone using #!/usr/bin/env python, but that failed on the system I'm using, so I assume that's something specific too (or is the installation broken?). The env program [1], which usually exists at least on a linux system, executes the program given as its argument. Thus, /usr/bin/env python tries to executes python, which bash will then use to run the python script. As long as env exists, and python is somewhere in the PATH, this is a fairly portable way to run python scripts. Does BSD really not come with the env program? I bet there's an equivalent you could symlink to it. Unfortunately, I've never BSDed, so I can't help you find it. To get a workable subset of the normal env functionality, you could try (assuming you use bash): /home/llimllib $ echo $@ /usr/bin/env /home/llimllib $ chmod a+x /usr/bin/env ahhh, that should be: /home/llimllib $ echo \$@ /usr/bin/env otherwise bash tries to substitute into the string. Sorry bout that. Peace Bill Mill bill.mill at gmail.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
difficulty connecting to networked oracle database
Now, I am no Python expert but I have dabbled and I have spent a couple of days with another engineer unsuccessfully installing oracle drivers for MS ODBC on the win XP machine. It looked to me like ODBC was the best way to get a (free) python module to upload data to an oracle database table. Aside from installing oracle clients to ODBC being a pain, I would like to consider other ways to connect. Has anyone had experiences with Python connecting to oracle from Win XP? I have searched the 'net for various modules and discussions but have no success thus far. Thanks, Graeme. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: difficulty connecting to networked oracle database
yahibble wrote: Now, I am no Python expert but I have dabbled and I have spent a couple of days with another engineer unsuccessfully installing oracle drivers for MS ODBC on the win XP machine. It looked to me like ODBC was the best way to get a (free) python module to upload data to an oracle database table. Aside from installing oracle clients to ODBC being a pain, I would like to consider other ways to connect. Has anyone had experiences with Python connecting to oracle from Win XP? I have searched the 'net for various modules and discussions but have no success thus far. I don't have specific experience with Oracle and Python, but I do know that using Python's DB-API is usually the best way to go. For Oracle, everyone seems to be using cx_oracle, a Python package freely downloadable from: http://www.computronix.com/utilities.shtml ODBC isn't really the best solution for Python programs. -- Paul McNett http://paulmcnett.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: difficulty connecting to networked oracle database
yahibble wrote: Now, I am no Python expert but I have dabbled and I have spent a couple of days with another engineer unsuccessfully installing oracle drivers for MS ODBC on the win XP machine. It looked to me like ODBC was the best way to get a (free) python module to upload data to an oracle database table. Aside from installing oracle clients to ODBC being a pain, I would like to consider other ways to connect. Has anyone had experiences with Python connecting to oracle from Win XP? I have searched the 'net for various modules and discussions but have no success thus far. Thanks, Graeme. not used it on Windows XP (just 2000) but cx_Oracle worked for me http://sourceforge.net/projects/cx-oracle/ Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does :: mean?
Robert Kern wrote: Rob Williscroft wrote: import sys live = 'live' print live[ sys.maxint : : -1 ] print live[ len(live)-1 : : -1 ] print live[ len(live)-1 : -len(live)-1 : -1 ] print live[ len(live)-1 : -sys.maxint : -1 ] print live[ sys.maxint : -sys.maxint : -1 ] print live[ -1 : -len(live)-1 : -1 ] Of course there is only one obvious way to do it, but alas as I'm not Dutch I can't tell which it is. Well, that part's easy at least: live[::-1] :-) And so the circle is complete ... What about reversed(live)? Or if you want a list instead of an iterator, list(reversed(live))? -- Michael Hoffman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PEP on path module for standard library
Many of you are familiar with Jason Orendorff's path module http://www.jorendorff.com/articles/python/path/, which is frequently recommended here on c.l.p. I submitted an RFE to add it to the Python standard library, and Reinhold Birkenfeld started a discussion on it in python-dev http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-June/054438.html. The upshot of the discussion was that many python-dev'ers wanted path added to the stdlib, but Guido was not convinced and said it must have a PEP. So Reinhold and I are going to work on one. Reinhold has already made some changes to the module to fit the python-dev discussion and put it in CPython CVS at nondist/sandbox/path. For the PEP, do any of you have arguments for or against including path? Code samples that are much easier or more difficult with this class would also be most helpful. I use path in more of my modules and scripts than any other third-party module, and I know it will be very helpful when I no longer have to worry about deploying it. Thanks in advance, -- Michael Hoffman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Hash functions
Do people often use hash() on built-in types? What do you find it useful for? How about on custom classes? Can anyone give me some good tips or hints for writing and using hash functions in Python? Thank you, -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: goto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is the equivalent of C languages' goto statement in python? You really shouldn't use goto. Fortunately you can't. Steven Of course you can :-) Steven You can write your own Python interpreter, in Python, and add a Steven goto to it. Maybe easier would be to write a Python assembler (there's probably already one out there) and just write to Python's virtual machine... The blockstack gets in the way. Really, I think Richie's goto module is about as good as it can get without vm surgery (apart from the performance, I'd guess). Cheers, mwh -- Reading Slashdot can [...] often be worse than useless, especially to young and budding programmers: it can give you exactly the wrong idea about the technical issues it raises. -- http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/klee/misc/slashdot.html#reasons -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stupid question: Making scripts python-scripts
oops... I missed the too specific comment. Sorry =) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is this pythonic?
Steven D'Aprano wrote: The great thing about Usenet and the Internet is that we can pick each other's brains for answers, instead of flailing around blindly in manuals that don't understand the simplest natural language query. And isn't that why we're here? Personally, I feel my time is better served by answering questions that would not be easy to find without assistance. I can't expect everyone to know about or expect enumerate() from the beginning, so I don't have any objections to it being asked here. If people were to ask what the function signature for enumerate() was when that is easy to Google, then I would think they were wasting everyone's time. -- Michael Hoffman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
Paul Rubin wrote: Huh? It's pretty normal, the gui blocks while waiting for events from the window system. I expect that Qt and Tk work the same way. Which is why I recommended Twisted for the networking; it integrates with the toolkit event loops so it automagically works: http://twistedmatrix.com/projects/core/documentation/howto/choosing-reactor.html#auto15 I agree, though, that basic socket programming in the same thread as the gui's probably a bad idea. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stupid question: Making scripts python-scripts
You could also set your python environment variable on the system... set it to be /path/to/python2.4. Then use the #!/usr/bin/env python trick. Just make sure that env is working for you, first. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: print pdf file to network printer using python
On 2005-07-21, scrimp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Ive been searching through google groups and Ive seen a lot about printing a pdf file, but I havent seen a definite answer. I tried this code: f = open(printer_path, 'w') f.write(pdffile_path) f.close() Basically it doesnt work and what it prints out is the value of pdffile_path variable. If anyone can offer some help, Id appreaciate it thanks! You forgot to read the data from the pdf file. f = open(printer_path, 'w') f.write(open(pdffile_path,'rb').read()) f.close() -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Yow! It's a hole at all the way to downtown visi.comBurbank! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is this pythonic?
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:43:00 +0100, Michael Hoffman wrote: Personally, I feel my time is better served by answering questions that would not be easy to find without assistance. I can't expect everyone to know about or expect enumerate() from the beginning, so I don't have any objections to it being asked here. If people were to ask what the function signature for enumerate() was when that is easy to Google, then I would think they were wasting everyone's time. And on that, I think we can agree! -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filling up commands.getstatusoutput's buffer
Jeff Epler wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 03:10:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much output are you talking about? Honestly, I don't know. I came on to a project were they said they were hitting up against some limit, and had a hack to work around it. I just wondered if others had hit some limit too and found diffrent workarounds. I tried outputs as large as about 260 megabytes without any problem. (RedHat 9, Python 2.2) len(commands.getoutput(dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=512000 2/dev/null)) 262144000 512 * 512000 262144000 I tried the same tests on CentOS, Python 2.3.4 and on Solaris 9 w/ Python 2.3.3. No problems. -- Regards, Travis Spencer -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Overriding a built-in exception handler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've Read-TFM, but I only see good info on how to create my own class of exception; I don't see anything on how to override an existing exception handler. You need to read the tutorial on handling exceptions: http://docs.python.org/tut/node10.html -- Michael Hoffman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is this pythonic?
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:27:24 -0400, Bill Mill wrote: [snip] I said the *builtins* section. I think you learn pretty quick that figuring out what functions are builtins is pretty important in every language. There's a fair number of people out there giving the advice to read chapter 2 of the library reference cover-to-cover for a good starter on python. Sure. But for a beginner to start learning the language by reading the language manual is a bit much to ask. Some people can do it, but most learn best by doing, not by reading dry, abstract descriptions of what various functions do. In my experience, iterators and generators don't even make sense until you've spent some time playing with them. Furthermore, I wasn't being hard on the guy, he still added up to +1. Lighten up, I was joking. There is no need to get defensive, I was merely commenting on the need to understand that inexperienced programmers often don't know enough about the language to know where to start looking for the answer. In fact, it isn't just inexperienced programmers, but experienced programmers too. I'm sure Guido doesn't need to look up enumerate in the reference manual; but if he wanted to write a program to calculate the positions of the anti-nodes of vibratory modes of the bound-state of a muon and a proton/neutron pair, the odds are pretty good he wouldn't even know where to start looking either :-) The great thing about Usenet and the Internet is that we can pick each other's brains for answers, instead of flailing around blindly in manuals that don't understand the simplest natural language query. And isn't that why we're here? Regards, -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hash functions
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do people often use hash() on built-in types? Only implicitly. What do you find it useful for? Dictionaries :) How about on custom classes? Same here. Can anyone give me some good tips or hints for writing and using hash functions in Python? Well, the usual tip for writing them is, don't, unless you need to. If implement __eq__, then you need to, so it's fairly common to just hash a tuple containing the things that are considered by the __eq__ method. Something like: class C(object): def __init__(self, a, b, c): self.a = a self.b = b self.c = c def __eq__(self, other): return self.a == other.a and self.b == other.b def __hash__(self): return hash((self.a, self.b)) Cheers, mwh -- I'm a keen cyclist and I stop at red lights. Those who don't need hitting with a great big slapping machine. -- Colin Davidson, cam.misc -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does :: mean?
Michael Hoffman wrote: Robert Kern wrote: Well, that part's easy at least: live[::-1] :-) And so the circle is complete ... What about reversed(live)? Or if you want a list instead of an iterator, list(reversed(live))? That's fine if you want to iterate over it. Often, especially with strings, you just want an object of the same type back again. -- Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the fields of hell where the grass grows high Are the graves of dreams allowed to die. -- Richard Harter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: difficulty connecting to networked oracle database
As the other posters already mentioned, cx_Oracle is the way to go. I'm using it to connect to Oracle not only on Windows, but also on Solaris, Linux and AIX. Grig -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PEP on path module for standard library
Michael Hoffman wrote: For the PEP, do any of you have arguments for or against including path? Code samples that are much easier or more difficult with this class would also be most helpful. I believe the strongest argument for path can be made for how it integrates functionality which, although closely related conceptually, is currently distributed across a half dozen or more different modules in the standard library. Especially for newbies (I can only imagine, at this stage) it would make working with files much easier in a many ways. Easier or more difficult is a subjective thing, of course, but one can't argue with the fact that path can sometimes do through a single object what would otherwise require several imports and a bunch of calls into things like open(), os.path, grep, and shutil. Examples showing effective uses of path that simplify those cases would probably merit the label easier even in Guido's mind, though unfortunately that's not certain. Easier in some minds might simply translate to many lines less code, and while path can sometimes do that, aside from the ease of splitting and joining stuff without multiple calls to os.path.this-and-that, it really doesn't often reduce code size _that_ much, in my experience. (Postings to c.l.p showing a 50% reduction in code size for contrived examples notwithstanding.) A related thoughts: since paths are objects, they have attributes or properties, and having things like .basename and .parent readily available without having to do obscure things like os.path.split(somepath)[0] makes things much easier to read (therefore more maintainable). In fact, I'd propose that as another strong argument in path's favour: it makes code much more readable, even if not easier to write. Hmm... does easier or more difficult apply to the writing of the code or the reading of it? I find it self-evident that code written using path is much easier to read, not necessarily much easier to write (for non-newbies). I'd summarize this by saying that the integration of path in the stdlib would make it easier for newbies to write code (that might not be obvious to a non-newbie... shall we ask some to help?), and easier for everyone to read code (self-evident, no?), and if that's not a sufficient condition for inclusion I don't know what is. -Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Generating images with text in them
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:23:46 +0100, Daren Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: phil hunt wrote: I am trying to generate some images (gifs or pngs) with text in them. I can use the Python Imaging Library, but it only has access to the default, rather crappy, font. Ideally I'd like to use one of the nicer fonts that come with my X Windows installation. Using Tkinter I can draw these fonts on the screen; is there any way to get these fonts into a bitmapped image? For example, can I draw some text on a canvas and then grab that canvas as a bitmap into PIL, and then save it as a file? Alternately, is there a good source of PIL font files (.pil files) somewhere? If the writers of the Python Imaging Library are reading this, may I suggest that they add more fonts to it. Yes, that would increase the size, but these days disk space is cheap and programmer time expensive. I've just been playing around with this. You can use truetype fonts with: font = ImageFont.truetype(/path/to/font.ttf, 12) Thanks! it's working now! -- Email: zen19725 at zen dot co dot uk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PEP on path module for standard library
Peter Hansen wrote: Michael Hoffman wrote: For the PEP, do any of you have arguments for or against including path? Code samples that are much easier or more difficult with this class would also be most helpful. I believe the strongest argument for path can be made for how it integrates functionality which, although closely related conceptually, is currently distributed across a half dozen or more different modules in the standard library. Especially for newbies (I can only imagine, at this stage) it would make working with files much easier in a many ways. +10 One of the few things that annoys me about the stdlib is what one could call performing 'shell-scripting-like' tasks, and precisely because of the problem you point out. A number of conceptually related and common tasks are scattered all over, and every time I need to write this kind of code, I find myself paging over the docs for multiple modules, with no real intuition as to where I could even guess where to find things. This is very unusual for python, where in most cases things are so well organized, that blind guessing tends to work remarkably well. Personally I like the path module _a lot_, though I'm sure a thorough once-over from c.l.py and python-dev, via a PEP, can only make it better and smooth out hidden rough edges and corner cases. But I'll be very happy if it does go into the stdlib in the future. Just my .02. Best, f -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: socket programming
* gry@ll.mit.edu gry@ll.mit.edu [2005/07/20 15:26]: What I have done in similar circumstances is put in a random sleep between connections to fool the server's load manager. Something like: .import time .min_pause,max_pause = (5.0, 10.0) #seconds .while True: . time.sleep(random.uniform(min_pause, max_pause)) . do_connection_and_query_stuff() It works for me. Just play with the pause parameters until it fails and add a little. thanks, this worked for me too. slows down the program, but at least it works. :) -- Helge Aksdal -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
