Hello List,
This is to let you know of a new release of Jug.
Jug allows you to write code that is broken up into tasks and run different
tasks on different processors (even across a cluster).
Jug is a pure Python implementation and should work on any platform.
WHAT'S NEW
Version 0.9.1
I'm very happy to announce
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Due to a great effort of the Nagare people:
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and namely by the tremendous work of Alain Pourier,
Stackless Python has now a new
WHAT IS IT:
The Sybase module provides a Python interface to the Sybase relational
database system. It supports all of the Python Database API, version
2.0 with extensions.
The module is available here:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/python-sybase/python-sybase-0.40.tar.gz
The module home
Hello
I'm an amateur programmer, and would like to know what the main
options are to build web applications in Python instead of PHP.
I notice that Python-based solutions are usually built as long-running
processes with their own web server (or can run in the back with eg.
Nginx and be reached
Gilles nos...@nospam.com writes:
I notice that Python-based solutions are usually built as long-running
processes with their own web server (or can run in the back with eg.
Nginx and be reached through eg. FastCGI/WSGI ) while PHP is simply a
language to write scripts and requires a web
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Gilles nos...@nospam.com wrote:
Since web scripts are usually very short anyway (user sends query,
server handles request, sends response, and closes the port) because
the user is waiting and browsers usually give up after 30 seconds
anyway... why did Python
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:12:55 +0200, Alain Ketterlin
al...@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr wrote:
You misunderstand the problem here. It's not about the duration of the
actions, it's about the latency it takes to read/parse/execute the
script. HTTP is stateless anyway, so if the same interpreter handles
From: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Equivalent to PHP?
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Gilles nos...@nospam.com wrote:
Since web scripts are usually very short anyway (user sends query,
server handles request, sends response, and closes the port) because
the user is
On 12-06-12 06:36 AM, Gilles wrote:
I enjoy writing scripts in Python much more than PHP, but with so many
sites written in PHP, I need to know what major benefits there are in
choosing Python (or Ruby, ie. not PHP).
I think that you just answered your own question in the first line of
that
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Gilles nos...@nospam.com wrote:
Thanks for the input.
But I read that PHP-based heavy-duty web servers compile the scripts
once and keep them in a cache, so they don't have to be
read/parsed/executed with each new query.
In that case, what is the benefit of
On 12/06/12 11:39, Gilles wrote:
I notice that Python-based solutions are usually built as long-running
processes with their own web server (or can run in the back with eg.
Nginx and be reached through eg. FastCGI/WSGI ) while PHP is simply a
language to write scripts and requires a web server
I'm puzzled with the following example, which is intended to be a part of a
module, say tst.py:
a = something(5)
def something(i):
return i
When I try:
- import tst
The interpreter cries out:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
File tst.py, line
You should define the function first and then call it.
def something(i):
return i
a = something(5)
If you want a reference to the function somewhere else you can do this:
global alias = something
print alias(i)
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Julio Sergio julioser...@gmail.com
On 6/12/2012 10:53 AM Julio Sergio said...
snip
So I modified my module:
global something
a = something(5)
def something(i):
return i
And this was the answer I got from the interpreter:
- import tst
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, inmodule
On 12/06/2012 18:53, Julio Sergio wrote:
I'm puzzled with the following example, which is intended to be a part of a
module, say tst.py:
a = something(5)
def something(i):
return i
When I try:
- import tst
The interpreter cries out:
Traceback (most recent call last):
Jose H. Martinez josehmartinezz at gmail.com writes:
You should define the function first and then call it.
def something(i): return i
a = something(5)
If you want a reference to the function somewhere else you can do this:
I know that. That was what I meant by
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Julio Sergio julioser...@gmail.com wrote:
Suppose I have to define two functions, aa, and, bb that are designed to call
each other:
def aa():
...
... a call of bb() somewhere in the body of aa
...
def bb():
...
... a call of aa()
On 01/-10/-28163 01:59 PM, Julio Sergio wrote:
I know that changing the order of the definitions will work, however there are
situations in which referring to an identifier before it is defined is
necessary, e.g., in crossed recursion.
Mutual recursion isn't a problem: the following strange
Julio Sergio wrote:
Jose H. Martinez josehmartinezz at gmail.com writes:
You should define the function first and then call it.
def something(i): return i
a = something(5)
If you want a reference to the function somewhere else you can do this:
I know that. That was what I meant
Seems like what you need is
from othermodule import bb
def aa():
bb()
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
Julio Sergio wrote:
Jose H. Martinez josehmartinezz at gmail.com writes:
You should define the function first and then call it.
def
On Jun 11, 6:55 pm, Dietmar Schwertberger n...@schwertberger.de
wrote:
But then we're back to the initial point: As long as there's no GUI
builder for Python, most people will stick to Excel / VBA / VB.
Then good thing there *are* GUI builder/IDEs for Python, one of which
was good enough for
Hi,
I am sort of a newbie to Python ( have just started to use pdb).
My problem is that I am debugging an application that uses greenlets and when I
encounter something in code that spawns the coroutines or wait for an event, I
lose control over the application (I mean that after that point
* Tomasz Rola rto...@ceti.pl [120611 11:18]:
On Sat, 9 Jun 2012, Yesterday Paid wrote:
I'm planning to learn one more language with my python.
Someone recommended to do Lisp or Clojure, but I don't think it's a
good idea(do you?)
So, I consider C# with ironpython or Java with Jython.
Ethan Furman ethan at stoneleaf.us writes:
No. The reply from MRAB explains this.
~Ethan~
Thanks, you're right!
I was confusing statemens with declarations.
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Julio Sergio wrote:
Ethan Furman ethan at stoneleaf.us writes:
No. The reply from MRAB explains this.
~Ethan~
Thanks, you're right!
I was confusing statemens with declarations.
Yeah, it took me a while to get that straight as well.
~Ethan~
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Thanks for the directions. By the way, can you see my post in Google Groups?
I'm not able to, and I don't know why.
They may have copied the Gmail idea that you never need to see anything
anything you posted yourself.
I can see all my posts in a Gmail thread/conversation but if there are
Why doesn't my excepthook get called in the child process?
import sys
import multiprocessing as mp
def target():
name = mp.current_process().name
def exceptHook(*args):
print 'exceptHook:', name, args
sys.excepthook = exceptHook
raise ValueError
if __name__=='__main__':
On Jun 10, 12:37 pm, Dietmar Schwertberger maill...@schwertberger.de
wrote:
Personally, I prefer Python with console, wx or Qt for local
applications and Python/HTTP/HTML/Javascript for multi-user
database applications.
Regards,
Dietmar
+1
I think this is the wave of the furture for
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Dennis Carachiola dnca...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's my question. I could do this by creating the dictionary with
the default values, then read the file into it. Or I could use a
'get' with default values at the location in the program where those
values are
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:42:56 -0400, D'Arcy Cain da...@druid.net
wrote:
I guess I am in the minority then. I do plan to turn one of my larger
projects into a standalone web server some day but so far writing
simple Python CGI scripts has served me fine. I even do some embedding
by using server
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:01:10 +1000, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com
wrote:
Apache's mod_php partially evens out the difference, but not
completely, and of course, it's perfectly possible to write a dispatch
loop in PHP, as Octavian said.
It looks like mod_php and equivalents for web servers other
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:18:21 +1000, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com
wrote:
Think of it as Apache + PHP versus Python. Apache keeps running, it's
only your PHP script that starts and stops. With a long-running
process, you keep everything all in together, which IMHO is simpler
and better.
Why is a
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:28:22 +0300, Octavian Rasnita
orasn...@gmail.com wrote:
Otherwise... if you want you can also create a web app using PHP and
CodeIgniter web framework and run it with fastcgi...
Thanks for the infos.
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Gilles nos...@nospam.com wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:18:21 +1000, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com
wrote:
Think of it as Apache + PHP versus Python. Apache keeps running, it's
only your PHP script that starts and stops. With a long-running
process, you keep
Julio Sergio julioser...@gmail.com writes:
Suppose I have to define two functions, aa, and, bb that are designed
to call each other:
def aa():
...
... a call of bb() somewhere in the body of aa
...
def bb():
...
... a call of aa() somewhere in the body of
On Jun 12, 3:19 am, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/06/12 06:20, rusi wrote:
Hi Matěj! If this question is politically incorrect please forgive me.
Do you speak only one (natural) language -- English?
And if this set is plural is your power of expression identical in
each
On 12-06-12 07:57 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:42:56 -0400, D'Arcy Cainda...@druid.net
wrote:
I guess I am in the minority then. I do plan to turn one of my larger
projects into a standalone web server some day but so far writing
simple Python CGI scripts has served me fine. I
New submission from Grey_Shao shoj...@163.com:
When I try to compile the Python 3.2.3, I failed to make
After I ungzip and untar the source package of the Python 3.2.3, Then run the
following commands:
1. ./configure
2. make
When step 2, the errors below happens:
gcc -c
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
Can you please attach the config.log file also?
Also, can you please report what the value of PRId64 in /usr/include/inttypes.h
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Brian Quinlan br...@sweetapp.com added the comment:
I've had people request that they be able control the order of processed work
submissions. So a more general way to solve your problem might be to make the
two executors take an optional Queue argument in their constructors.
You'd have to
Hallvard B Furuseth h.b.furus...@usit.uio.no added the comment:
Richard Oudkerk rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
Thanks for the patch, I have applied it. (I don't think there was a
problem with the promotion rules because res was a never converted to
UINT32.)
True now that res is a
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
Technically, it returns -1 (which later gets coerced to an unsigned value).
However, there's no good reason for the inconsistency - the offending line
(663) in main.c should be changed to be:
sts = (RunModule(module, 1) != 0);
It is
Michael Herrmann mherrmann...@gmail.com added the comment:
Hi,
I need to use a third-party library that ships as a mixture of .pyc and .pyo
files. I found it a little surprising and inconvenient that I have to set the
-O flag just to read .pyo files. I don't mind whether .pyc or .pyo files
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
One brief comment on the wording of the error message: the inconsistent naming
is actually copied from the str.format code.
{foo} {} {bar}.format(2, foo='fooval', bar='barval')
'fooval 2 barval'
{foo} {0} {} {bar}.format(2, foo='fooval',
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Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com added the comment:
Applies and builds cleanly on Win7 32-bit. The speed difference is visible here
too:
PS D:\Data\cpython\PCbuild .\python.exe -m timeit -s from _thread import
allocate_lock; l=allocate_lock() l.acquire();l.release()
100 loops, best of 3:
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
Michael, I don’t think your proposed change would be considered favorably:
importing .pyc or .pyo is well defined for CPython and the -O switch is really
required for .pyo. However you may be able to import them anyway without any
change to
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Meador Inge mead...@gmail.com added the comment:
I didn't get around to updating my patch with Nick's comments yet.
Nick, the v3 patch I have attached still applies. I am happy to update it per
your comments (promptly this time) or you can take it over. Whichever.
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Michael Herrmann mherrmann...@gmail.com added the comment:
Hi Eric,
thank you for your quick reply. I'm not the first one who encounters this
problem and in my opinion it is simply counter-intuitive that you cannot read a
mixture of .pyo and .pyc files. That is why I think that my proposed
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:
Actually it's a lot easier than that, although it is very much a hack: just
rename the .pyo files to .pyc, and python without -O will happily import them.
Since the optimization happens when the bytecode is written, this does what you
Eric O. LEBIGOT eric.lebi...@normalesup.org added the comment:
Hi Michael,
Thank you for your message.
You are mentioning the suggestion of the other Eric (Araujo). My suggestion
was to rename your .pyo files as .pyc files; it is hackish (according to a
previous post from Eric Araujo), but
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
Is this documented in whatsnew?
I'm not sure what has been (none of my patches have done so).
Okay; if a committer does not add a note we can open a doc bug to not forget
that.
Also, I remember a discussion about making it public or not, but
Michael Herrmann mherrmann...@gmail.com added the comment:
Dear Eric OL,
I see - I had read your e-mail but because of the similar names I thought the
message here was yours too, and thus only replied once. I apologize!
I can of course find a workaround such as renaming .pyo to .pyc. However,
Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com added the comment:
any chance on this for 3.3?
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Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
Without looking at the code, it seems that
http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.5/library/io.html?highlight=io#io.TextIOWrapper
gives the answer
If line_buffering is True, flush() is implied when a call to write contains a
newline
Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:
It's not a problem, Stefan. I just happened to have already added the
importlib.invalidate_caches() call to test_reprlib so I know that isn't the
issue.
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Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com added the comment:
I've tested Ubuntu 64 myself using a Virtualbox, confirming that the pythread
functionality is untouched.
(funny how those vi keystrokes seem to be embedded into your amygdala after
decades of disuse)
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Chris Jerdonek chris.jerdo...@gmail.com added the comment:
Great. Looks good!
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R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:
That makes sense. I'll add a mention of this to the 'open' docs that discuss
the buffering parameter.
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New submission from Virgil Dupras hs...@hardcoded.net:
I try to compile Pyhton 3.3a4 on a OS X 10.7 with XCode 4.3.3 and it fails. I
tried a few configuration options, but even with a basic ./configure make,
I get this:
./python.exe -SE -m sysconfig --generate-posix-vars
Could not find
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment:
There is a bug in the version of GCC that's shipped with Xcode.
Try building using clang:
configure ... CC=clang CXX=clang++
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Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com added the comment:
This is a duplicate of #13241
We (and in particular Ned Deily are working on a change to the build process
that would fix this, and will make it possible to build extensions on OSX
regardless of which Xcode variant you use and which
James Kyle b...@jameskyle.org added the comment:
I think Ned does have some good points regarding the minimal impact a reversion
would have.
The most poignant point is that /Library/ on OS X is not a user controlled
directory whereas ~/.local is. If ~/.local exists and has packages installed,
New submission from Jeremy Kloth jeremy.kloth+python-trac...@gmail.com:
The comment regarding a Perl installation not being required is no longer true
with regards to OpenSSL 1.0+ (at least 1.0.0j and 1.0.1c). A Perl script(s) is
used to generate source files within the generated Makefiles.
Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:
Michael, you should ask the closed source library distributor to distribute all
files as .pyc so you have access to docstrings while programming and to avoid
the problem with reading them. He could also distribute an all-.pyo version. A
Ross Lagerwall rosslagerw...@gmail.com added the comment:
The gdbm provided with Fedora 17 provides /usr/include/ndbm.h.
This makes setup.py think that it should try link with -lndbm when it actually
requires -lgdbm_compat.
A workaround is to specify --with-dbmliborder=gdbm to force gdbm to
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Roger Serwy roger.se...@gmail.com added the comment:
The _self_pat RE needs to be changed to just remove the first argument.
Presently, another bug exists with the current implementation:
class A:
def t(self, self1, self2):
pass
a = A()
a.t(
gives
Ross Lagerwall rosslagerw...@gmail.com added the comment:
Attached is a patch which fixes the issue on Fedora 17.
If this doesn't break other OSes I'll commit it for 2.7, 3.2 and 3.3.
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Added file:
Abhishek Singh abhishekrsi...@gmail.com added the comment:
I found my problem.
I was also using pipes to implement my show output (between python and C). The
pipe was getting full, and xmlrpc server was locking up because of that.
The gdb traceback was confusing though (will re-open if I see
New submission from Brett Cannon br...@python.org:
If you look at http://docs.python.org/dev/py3k/library/imp.html#imp.get_tag you
will notice it has the Changed in Python 3.3 notice for imp.lock_held() in
it, the function *below* imp.get_tag().
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Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk added the comment:
It's the fact that for immutable types, initialization is done in __new__
instead of __init__ that isn't documented anywhere.
This should be Python-level rather than C-level documentation.
The example I gave in #msg76473 is confusing
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Well, if the versionchanged were for get_tag(), it would be indented
appropriately. But it is actually for the The following functions help
interact with the import system’s internal locking mechanism paragraph.
Feel free to improve :)
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:
Actually, it is documented:
http://docs.python.org/dev/reference/datamodel.html#basic-customization
__new__() is intended mainly to allow subclasses of immutable types (like int,
str, or tuple) to customize instance creation.
It could
Grey_Shao shoj...@163.com added the comment:
Thanks for your kindly help
I attach the config.log in the attachment data.7z
The value of the PRId64 is:
#ifdef _LP64
#define PRId64 ld
#else /* _ILP32 */
#if __STDC__ - 0 == 0 !defined(_NO_LONGLONG)
#define
Ariel Poliak apol...@gmail.com added the comment:
Made a new patch.
This one contains changes for xml.etree.ElementTree for cpython, jython, and
stackless.
It also contains changes to Modules/_elementtree.c for cpython and stackless.
The changes within this patch do not change the signature
Nam Nguyen bits...@gmail.com added the comment:
+1
That was actually what I did. I replaced the internal queue with another one
whose limit was properly set.
If you are busy to write one, let me find some time to create another patch.
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