On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com:
Using some other name in place of self should definitely remain
*possible*, but not commonly done.
You are effectively making the argument that Python has made a mistake
by not giving
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Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment:
I was away the last few days, so just found the changes now.
IMO, it's a good idea to use a new module for the new compiler, but don't think
it's a good idea to make the whole module private, since this implicitly
disallows sub-classing the compiler class
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That will not work correctly if the module name has a dot in it.
Pickling qualified names with arbitrary number of dots is supported in 3.4 with
protocol 4 and in 3.5 with all protocols (backward compatibly).
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Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 14:39, Ben Finney wrote:
That kind of homophobic slur is inappropriate from anyone in this
community. Kindly cut it out altogether.
I look forward to the day when people would read the earlier insult
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
I am missing something. Why do you need unicode at all? Why can you
not just keep your binary data as binary data?
Good question. From the SCons code I see that we need unicode, because
we switched to io.StringIO which is
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:30 PM, alb al.bas...@gmail.com wrote:
But here I have another question, as a python novice is there really any
reason for me to use any particular version of Python?
Should I start directly with the newest? What about 2.7?
Start with the newest that's conveniently
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Who has enough knowledge of the tarfile module to create a good patch?
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New submission from Moritz Sichert:
In 7955d769fdf5 a bug of #14330 got fixed and it got backported for 2.7.
But these changes were reverted by another backport in 8ee6d96a1019 (which was
a backport for #17086).
The issue here is that right know setup.py looks for ssl and other libs'
headers
I am missing something. Why do you need unicode at all? Why can you
not just keep your binary data as binary data?
I feel like I must be missing something obvious here ...
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Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:30 CEST schreef alb:
But here I have another question, as a python novice is there really
any reason for me to use any particular version of Python?
Should I start directly with the newest? What about 2.7?
In principal you should use the ‘latest’ 3. The only
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
Could you please provide full example that you want to work and test it in
Python 3.5? I suppose your issue is fixed in 3.5.
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Hi.
This was labelled offtopic in python-ideas, so I edited and forwarded
it here. Please CC as I am not subscribed.
In short. I need is a bulletproof way to convert from anything to
unicode. This requires some kind of escaping to go forward and back.
Some helper function like u2b() (unicode to
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
In C implementation no need to create set object seen. More efficient way is to
use bit array.
Here is a patch that uses this approach.
./python -m timeit -s s1 = set(range(1000)) s1.issubset(range(1000))
Unpatched : 1 loops, best of 3: 115 usec per
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment:
Here's what mxDateTime uses:
import mx.DateTime
t1 = mx.DateTime.DateTime(2012,6,30,23,59,60)
t2 = mx.DateTime.DateTime(2012,7,1,0,0,0)
t1
mx.DateTime.DateTime object for '2012-06-30 23:59:60.00' at 7fbb36008d68
t2
mx.DateTime.DateTime object for
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:52 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote:
And the short answer is that we need unicode because we are printing this
information to the stdout, and stdout is opened in text mode at least on
Windows, and without explicit conversion, Python will try to decode
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Serhiy, that sounds good but I think that you have forgotten to attach the
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On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:40 PM, zipher dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 6:30:16 AM UTC-5, Ben Finney wrote:
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 14:39, Ben Finney wrote:
That kind of homophobic slur is
On 27/05/2015 09:42, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:30 CEST schreef alb:
But here I have another question, as a python novice is there really
any reason for me to use any particular version of Python?
Should I start directly with the newest? What about 2.7?
In principal
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I have learnt to run the interactive interpeter (and also most of my own
scripts) with the -b -Wall options. But having these switched on automatically
may not be a bad thing.
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The example at the bottom of the following page should have a warning added:
https://docs.python.org/2/library/queue.html
The warning should be such that the user is informed that the threads in the
example are not cleaned up and will continue to run. Any
Rahul Gupta added the comment:
isn't it logical?
[] is a mutable data structure
while () is a immutable data structure
(b, a) = [1, 2] is fine because a and b are mutable
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R. David Murray added the comment:
It is automatically generated in that it isn't hand-written. On the other
hand, it isn't automatically generated in the sense of being part of the make
process, ./python symbol.py is supposed to be run by hand when it is
appropriate.
A bit ago someone
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:47 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
I am missing something. Why do you need unicode at all? Why can you
not just keep your binary data as binary data?
Good question. From the
On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 6:30:16 AM UTC-5, Ben Finney wrote:
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 14:39, Ben Finney wrote:
That kind of homophobic slur is inappropriate from anyone in this
community. Kindly cut it out altogether.
A minor point is that if you just need to compare distances you don't need to
compute the hypotenuse, its square will do so no subtractions etc etc.
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See discussion on Python-Ideas [1].
[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.ideas/32191
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R. David Murray added the comment:
If you know anything about threads you can see that the threads are not
explicitly shut down. As a standalone example it is correct, in that they
get shut down at interpreter shutdown.
I'm not sure it is appropriate to include what is essentially a thread
Dear Python Team,
currently I am working on a research project for my bachelor degree. A
LabVIEW application is used for current and power measurements, whereas the
measured data are sent to DataSocket Server, a technology by National
Instruments used for data exchange between computers and
Martin Panter added the comment:
I prefer to unpack into square brackets in general because it is a mnemonic for
the star argument being a list:
(a, *b) = range(3)
a
0
b # A list, even though it was unpacked using tuple-like syntax
[1, 2]
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updated.
I'm not familiar with the CPython parser, but I suspect that
On Wed, 27 May 2015 09:15 pm, anatoly techtonik wrote:
Hi.
This was labelled offtopic in python-ideas, so I edited and forwarded
it here. Please CC as I am not subscribed.
In short. I need is a bulletproof way to convert from anything to
unicode. This requires some kind of escaping to
Chris Angelico apparantly has a problem with cc'd people who aren't
on the list. python-list is very quiet these days, so if you
subscribe it won't be drinking from the firehose. And you can
always turn off delivery when you are done. Or you can just
go read the archives:
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[a, b] = (1, 2) is also fine.
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On Wed, May 27, 2015, at 07:15, anatoly techtonik wrote:
The solution is to have filter preprocess the binary string to escape all
non-unicode symbols so that the following lossless transformation
becomes possible:
binary - escaped utf-8 string - unicode - binary
I want to know if
Steve Dower added the comment:
I understood it only disallowed complaining about breaking changes without a
deprecation cycle :)
I'm sorry I didn't realize you were away. If you have examples of how
subclassing this class (and not just CCompiler) is useful and does something
that can't be
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On Wed, May 27, 2015, at 07:47, anatoly techtonik wrote:
because Python 3 doesn't have non-unicode StringIO
That's actually not true - the non-unicode equivalent is BytesIO.
However, it's probably not actually what you want, if the point is to
display the filenames to the user.
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Oh, sorry. Here is it.
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Mark Lawrence added the comment:
If the name is changed I'd like to see something that doesn't reflect the msvc
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I'll look at this in June. I don't think that reverting is the right choice
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Why you have added entry-hash == 0?
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Using pid namespacing it is possible to have multiple processes with the same
pid. semlock_new creates a semaphore file with the template
/dev/shm/mp{pid}-{counter}. This can conflict if the same semaphore file
already exists due to another Python process
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Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
This is not the Right Answer because on Linux the thousands-separator for the
fr_FR locale is a space.
Perhaps better solution would be to specify the UTF-8 encoding for fr_FR locale.
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Can you add a public copy of a file that fails this way? There are several
open issues with gzip, like Issue1159051, that might cover this but it's hard
to know for sure without a test case.
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On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
Let's compare three methods.
def naive(a, b):
return math.sqrt(a**2 + b**2)
def alternate(a, b):
a, b = min(a, b), max(a, b)
if a == 0: return b
if b == 0: return a
return a * math.sqrt(1
I just installed the 32-bit Python 3.5b4 via the Web-installer.
First, I was a bit annoyed by the fact it installed under
'f:\ProgramFiler-x86\Python35' instead of
'f:\ProgramFiler\Python35' as I customided for. But I guess
this is a WOW64 thing. I'm on Win-8.1 (64-bit).
But then I noticed
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 3:53:25 PM UTC-5, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 05/26/2015 08:57 AM, zipher wrote:
Comprende? I'm not trying to be cryptic here. This is a bit of OOP
theory to be discussed.
No, sorry. Maybe an actual example (with use case) would spur discussion.
In the first
Hi!
I'm trying to use embedding of Python in my program.
Simple C-program, compiled in Debug, that uses py-script that just
imports ctypes gives me an error about no module named _ctypes.
How to compile python lib in Visual Studio statically with ctypes
support? Or how to use shared ctypes lib
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Gisle Vanem gva...@yahoo.no wrote:
I just installed the 32-bit Python 3.5b4 via the Web-installer.
First, I was a bit annoyed by the fact it installed under
'f:\ProgramFiler-x86\Python35' instead of
'f:\ProgramFiler\Python35' as I customided for. But I
Yury Selivanov added the comment:
But why was it building just fine before this commit? I haven't updated my
system packages in a while.
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Steve Dower added the comment:
Those macros are only included if Py_BUILD_CORE is defined, regardless of
platform (see Include/pyport.h).
Is it possible that's being undefined somehow?
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Steve Dower added the comment:
Looking at a `grep PY_CORE_CFLAGS`, that sounds reasonable to me.
I assumed that all core files were already being compiled with Py_BUILD_CORE
(they certainly are for Windows), so this seems to be an oversight for
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New submission from Eric Gorr:
I have a file whose first four bytes are 1F 8B 08 00 and if I use gunzip from
the command line, it outputs:
gzip: zImage_extracted.gz: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored
and correctly decompresses the file. However, if I use the gzip module to read
and
Yury Selivanov added the comment:
Wild guess: perhaps you did a ./configure or the Makefile did an implicit
call to configure recently and/or you did a make install (to /usr/local)
before?
I don't have 'python' in /usr/local and /usr/local/bin
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yury@ysmac ~/dev/py/cpython (HG: default?) $ ls /usr/local/include/
librtmp osxfuse pycairo
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FWIW, I think that in order to use _Py_BEGIN_SUPPRESS_IPH timemodule.c should
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Yury, I'm not seeing that compile error with current head of default on OS X.
Try a clean build, perhaps?
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Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 16:51 CEST schreef Mark Lawrence:
On 27/05/2015 15:11, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:44 CEST schreef Mark Lawrence:
On 27/05/2015 09:42, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:30 CEST schreef alb:
But here I have another question,
New submission from pankaj.s01:
Hi,
Here , A code refactoring patch have been submitted for
Function: nis_mapname() and
File: Python-3.4.3/Modules/nismodule.c
Please Review it,
Thanks,
Pankaj
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Petr Viktorin added the comment:
Reported by David Gibson here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201990
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New submission from Petr Viktorin:
When obtaining the signature of a bound method, inspect.signature, by default,
omits the self argument to the method, since it is already specified in the
bound method. However, if you create a wrapper around a bound method with
functools.update_wrapper()
New submission from John Beck:
The upgrade from 2.7.9 to 2.7.10 resulted in test__locale failing.
This test had previously succeeded. The difference is that the
thousands-separator for the fr_FR locale in known_numerics was
changed from '' (i.e., unknown) to ' ' (i.e. space). But on Solaris,
Yury Selivanov added the comment:
This exact sequence of commands
$ make clean
$ ./configure
$ make -j8
does not build.
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Yury Selivanov added the comment:
$ hg status
shows nothing, branch is default (but 3.5 doesn't get built either) etc.
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Wild guess: perhaps you did a ./configure or the Makefile did an implicit call
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Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 843fe7e831a8 by Yury Selivanov in branch '3.5':
Issue 24297: Update symbol.py. See also issue 24017.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/843fe7e831a8
New changeset 87509d71653b by Yury Selivanov in branch 'default':
Issue 24297: Update symbol.py. See
Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 843fe7e831a8 by Yury Selivanov in branch '3.5':
Issue 24297: Update symbol.py. See also issue 24017.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/843fe7e831a8
New changeset 87509d71653b by Yury Selivanov in branch 'default':
Issue 24297: Update symbol.py. See
Yury Selivanov added the comment:
Attached is a new unittest to make sure that symbol.py is always updated.
Essentially it's the same test that we have for keywords.py. Please review.
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Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
I think the intension was to produce aligned data, but the alignment of the
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Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:44 CEST schreef Mark Lawrence:
On 27/05/2015 09:42, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:30 CEST schreef alb:
But here I have another question, as a python novice is there
really any reason for me to use any particular version of Python?
Should I
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On 2015-05-27, Todd toddr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:40 PM, zipher dreamingforw...@gmail.com wrote:
[some stupid crap]
If your goal is to get people to stop calling you a troll, you are
going about it the wrong way. If it isn't, why are you even here?
Please remember the
On 27/05/2015 15:11, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:44 CEST schreef Mark Lawrence:
On 27/05/2015 09:42, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Op Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:30 CEST schreef alb:
But here I have another question, as a python novice is there
really any reason for me to use
Raymond Hettinger added the comment:
It is normal for daemon threads to not be shut down. That is why they exist.
The purpose of Queue.join() is to give other threads a way to know when daemons
have finished doing their work (i.e. a print manager thread to indicate that it
is done
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Yury Selivanov added the comment:
timemodule.c no longer compiles on MacOSX:
gcc -Wno-unused-result -Wsign-compare -Wunreachable-code -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv
-O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror=declaration-after-statement -I./Include
-I. -IInclude -I/usr/local/include
Tal Einat added the comment:
Attached yet another revised version of the math.isclose() patch.
This patch fixes a problem with the tests in the previous patch which causes
them to fail when the full test suite is run.
I've also slightly reworded the doc-string.
Hopefully this is ready to go
Steve Dower added the comment:
That change was in for beta 1, so we would have noticed if we didn't get Mac
builds.
Something else has changed, probably some headers.
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New submission from pankaj.s01:
Hi,
There is dead code reported in this issue and I think no need to check for NULL
of 'handler' in function faulthandler_fatal_error() and file
Python-3.4.3/Modules/faulthandler.c . where 'handler' is pointed to staic array
faulthandler_handlers[] which never
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Yury Selivanov added the comment:
Towards the end of the configured top-level Makefile, you should see:
Yes, I don't see that line. What should I do to regenerate it? And another
question: what did go wrong with my checkout?
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Majeed Arni added the comment:
Though %f is a valid format from Python's doc
https://docs.python.org/2/library/datetime.html, the fix just ignores it on
Windows? can we atleast get milliseconds on Windows and Micro on Linux?
%f Microsecond as a decimal number, zero-padded on the left.
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New changeset cd1e1715becd by Raymond Hettinger in branch 'default':
Issue #23359: Specialize set_lookkey intoa lookup function and an insert
function.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/cd1e1715becd
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Raymond Hettinger added the comment:
Berker's patch looks good.
It has several virtues:
* the error message is reasonable and clear
* it makes the language more consistent
* it doesn't break any existing code.
* it makes the AST a little simpler and faster
by removing a special case
The
Ned Deily added the comment:
Yury, another (less) wild guess: do you have an out-of-date Modules/Setup or
Setup.local? timemodule is defined in Setup.dist but that will be overridden
by a locally modified copy in the Modules directory. Towards the end of the
configured top-level Makefile,
R. David Murray added the comment:
Note that when I run into build problems after an update, I generally run 'make
distclean' and then redo the configure/make. This generally cleans up any
problems like this (and I don't find that I need to do it very often.)
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