asynchronous alarm

2008-02-23 Thread Alan Isaac
Goal: turn off an audible alarm without terminating the program. For example, suppose a console program is running:: while True: sys.stdout.write('\a') sys.stdout.flush() time.sleep(0.5) I want to add code to allow me to turn off this

Re: asynchronous alarm

2008-02-24 Thread Alan Isaac
Paul Rubin wrote: a = Event() Thread(target=f, args=(a,)).start() raw_input('hit return when done: ') a.set() Simple and elegant. Thank you. Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pythons Ladders

2008-02-28 Thread Alan Isaac
used it, some tinkering was required. You could work on adding features. http://docutils.sourceforge.net/sandbox/rst2wordml/readme.html If you get good enough a docutils, provide an option to have the number for the note be superscripted, like the note reference can be. fwiw, Alan Isaac

Re: more pythonic

2008-02-29 Thread Alan Isaac
: someNewList = list( elementDerivedFrom(smthg) for smthg in someSequence if condition(smthg) ) Tastes vary of course. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

2008-03-02 Thread Alan Isaac
On April 12th, 2007 at 10:05 PM Alan Isaac wrote: The avoidance of tuples, so carefully defended in other terms, is often rooted (I claim) in habits formed from need for list methods like ``index`` and ``count``. Indeed, I predict that Python tuples will eventually have these methods

Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

2008-03-02 Thread Alan Isaac
Paul Boddie wrote: Here's the tracker item that may have made it happen: http://bugs.python.org/issue1696444 I think you need to thank Raymond Hettinger for championing the cause. ;-) Yes indeed! Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is it possible to return a variable and use it...?

2008-03-03 Thread Alan Isaac
Nathan Pinno wrote: Is it possible to return a variable and then use it I think you are asking about the ``global`` statement. URL:http://docs.python.org/ref/global.html like the following: Presumably not. ;-) Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Can't get items out of a set?

2008-03-08 Thread Alan Isaac
Cruxic wrote: people = set( [Person(1, 'Joe'), Person(2, 'Sue')] ) ... p = people.get_equivalent(2) #method doesn't exist as far as I know print p.name #prints Sue def get_equivalent(test, container): for p in container: if p == test: return p hth, Alan Isaac

no more comparisons

2008-03-12 Thread Alan Isaac
/pipermail/python-3000/2008-January/011764.html Is that going anywhere? Also, what is the core motivation for removing this functionality? Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: no more comparisons

2008-03-12 Thread Alan Isaac
``: this is already possible when it is convenient, but it is not always convenient. (Even aside from memory considerations.) By the way, I even saw mention of even removing the ``cmp`` built-in. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: no more comparisons

2008-03-13 Thread Alan Isaac
... how is this supposed to work if __cmp__ is no longer being called? (Which was my understanding.) Thank you, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: no more comparisons

2008-03-13 Thread Alan Isaac
Dan Bishop wrote: def cmp_key(cmp_fn): class CmpWrapper(object): def __init__(self, obj): self.obj = obj def __cmp__(self, other): return cmp_fn(self.obj, other.obj) return CmpWrapper On Mar 13, 12:38 pm, Alan Isaac wrote: how

Re: no more comparisons

2008-03-13 Thread Alan Isaac
representing the absolute value of the integer. So Does this do it? :: key= lambda x: (-x[1],int(x2)) Here I am depending on the lexicographic sorting of tuples. Without that there would be real trouble. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

Re: no more comparisons

2008-03-13 Thread Alan Isaac
uncomfortable? Thanks, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: method to create class property

2008-03-18 Thread Alan Isaac
Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Help me on function definition

2008-04-04 Thread Alan Isaac
aeneng wrote: WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY CODE? def cross(u,v) Missing colon. hth, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

observer pattern question #1 (reference to subject)

2008-05-08 Thread Alan Isaac
/Python/Recipe/131499). Is anything lost by not maintaining this reference (other than error checking ...)? If I feel the observer needs access to the subject, what is wrong with just having the subject pass itself as part of the notification? Thank you, Alan Isaac -- http

observer pattern question #2 (notification chain)

2008-05-08 Thread Alan Isaac
, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: observer pattern question #1 (reference to subject)

2008-05-08 Thread Alan Isaac
Alan Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anything lost by not maintaining this reference (other than error checking ...)? If I feel the observer needs access to the subject, what is wrong with just having the subject pass itself as part of the notification? Ville M. Vainio wrote

Re: observer pattern question #1 (reference to subject)

2008-05-08 Thread Alan Isaac
Ville M. Vainio wrote: in case of stocks, you are probably monitoring several stock objects, so the stock should probably pass itself to the observer OK. This is related to my question #2 (in a separate thread), where I'd also appreciate your comments. analogous to a typical

Re: python vs. grep

2008-05-08 Thread Alan Isaac
analog. https://svn.enthought.com/svn/sandbox/grin/trunk/ hth, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

observer pattern (notification chain synchronization)

2008-05-09 Thread Alan Isaac
. Is this sensible enough? What are standard and better ways? Thank you, Alan Isaac PS I am drawing on the description of the observer pattern at URL:http://www.dofactory.com/Patterns/PatternObserver.aspx#_self1 The real world aspects are just to add some concreteness. -- http

Re: observer pattern (notification chain synchronization)

2008-05-10 Thread Alan Isaac
, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: should I put old or new style classes in my book?

2008-05-29 Thread Alan Isaac
://docs.python.org/ref/metaclasses.html but it seems right. Thank you, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: make a string a list

2008-05-29 Thread Alan Isaac
' position. Why dont the ``find`` or ``index`` methods work for you? http://docs.python.org/lib/string-methods.html Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: code of a function

2008-05-29 Thread Alan Isaac
Anand Patil wrote: If you're using IPython, you can do svd?? . http://www.scipy.org/doc/numpy_api_docs/numpy.linalg.linalg.html hth, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Ideas for master's thesis

2008-06-02 Thread Alan Isaac
differently. I am confident that you could get a lot of guidance on the NumPy list if you were interested in taking this on. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: parser recommendation

2008-06-05 Thread Alan Isaac
One other possibility: SimpleParse (for speed). URL:http://simpleparse.sourceforge.net/ It is very nice. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Dynamically naming objects.

2008-06-06 Thread Alan Isaac
On Jun 7, 1:20 pm, Hans Nowak [user() for i in range(n)] Kalibr wrote: or does it somehow work? how would I address them if they all have the name 'u'? users = list(User() for i in range(n)) for user in users: user.do_something() hth, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org

Re: Market simulations with Python

2008-06-28 Thread Alan Isaac
library? You could use SimPy. Also see: http://gnosis.cx/publish/programming/charming_python_b10.html http://www.mech.kuleuven.be/lce2006/147.pdf If you plan to share you efforts, please post updates here. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python with Ecmascript

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Isaac
Daniel Fetchinson wrote: Is there a way to do similar things on linux? NJSModule? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NJS Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python with Ecmascript

2008-07-11 Thread Alan Isaac
/listinfo/users 2. Did you try to compile it? Is there anything obviously 2.5 incompatible? Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python plain-text database or library that supports joins?

2007-06-22 Thread Alan Isaac
Not Python, but maybe relevant: http://www.scriptaworks.com/cgi-bin/wiki.sh/NoSQL/HomePage Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

relative import question: packaging scripts

2007-06-23 Thread Alan Isaac
on the user having done this? Thank you, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

guidance needed: best practice for script packaging

2007-06-26 Thread Alan Isaac
is still unclear, I would appreciate any leads on how to clarify it. Thank you, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: guidance needed: best practice for script packaging

2007-06-28 Thread Alan Isaac
My thanks to Gabriel and Josiah. Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: equality comparison by default (was Re: Too many 'self' in python.That's a big flaw in this language.)

2007-06-28 Thread Alan Isaac
as expected. Use `is`. http://docs.python.org/ref/comparisons.html This is good behavior. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: equality comparison by default (was Re: Too many 'self' in python.That's a big flaw in this language.)

2007-07-01 Thread Alan Isaac
** identical, in the sense of having the same conceptual reference. In contrast, two equal cars are generally not identical in this sense. Of course you can make them so if you wish, but it is odd. So *nothing* is wrong here, imo. Btw: a = 12 b = 12 a == b True a is b True Cheers, Alan Isaac

allow scripts to use .pth files?

2007-07-03 Thread Alan Isaac
there is not one. (?) How about allowing a `scripts.pth` file in such a `scripts` directory, to work like a path configuration file? (But to be used only when __name__==__main__.) Drawbacks? Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: allow scripts to use .pth files?

2007-07-04 Thread Alan Isaac
On Jul 3, 7:35 am, Alan Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose I have a directory `scripts`. I'd like the scripts to have access to a package that is not installed, i.e., it is not on sys.path. On this list, various people have described a variety of tricks they use, but nobody has proposed

disappearing documentation of `coerce`

2007-07-04 Thread Alan Isaac
Once upon a time, `coerce` was documented with the other built-ins. http://pydoc.org/1.5.2/__builtin__.html Now it is not. http://docs.python.org/lib/built-in-funcs.html Reason? Thanks, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: disappearing documentation of `coerce`

2007-07-05 Thread Alan Isaac
On 2007-07-05, Alan Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once upon a time, `coerce` was documented with the other built-ins. Neil Cerutti wrote: It's now documented in Library Reference 2.2 Non-essential Built-in Functions. Apparently it is no longer needed or useful, but only kept for backward

bool behavior in Python 3000?

2007-07-10 Thread Alan Isaac
Is there any discussion of having real booleans in Python 3000? Say something along the line of the numpy implementation for arrays of type 'bool'? Hoping the bool type will be fixed will be fixed, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: allow scripts to use .pth files?

2007-07-10 Thread Alan Isaac
that wanted to import it. Right. I'm curious whether you think that the OP's use of .pth was a typo, and whether you have read this: http://docs.python.org/lib/module-site.html You seem to understand what I'm getting at. Thanks John. Alan Isaac (the OP above) -- http://mail.python.org

Re: bool behavior in Python 3000?

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Isaac
Stargaming wrote: I think Bjoern just wanted to point out that all those binary boolean operators already work *perfectly*. bool(False-True) True But reread Steven. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: bool behavior in Python 3000?

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Isaac
Bjoern Schliessmann wrote: Is there any type named bool in standard Python? type(True) type 'bool' Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: bool behavior in Python 3000?

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Isaac
arguments, not proposing an implementation. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: bool behavior in Python 3000?

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Isaac
arithmetic. I mentioned Python 3000 since that is an opportunity for an ideal world. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Fastest way to convert a byte of integer into a list

2007-07-12 Thread Alan Isaac
On Jul 13, 9:54 am, Matimus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: num = 255 numlist = [num i 1 for i in range(8)] Godzilla wrote: Thanks matimus! I will look into it... Watch out for the order, which might or might not match your intent. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: bool behavior in Python 3000?

2007-07-12 Thread Alan Isaac
Alan Isaac skrev: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0285/ Nis Jørgensen wrote: You forgot to quote this bit: [4)] Actually not. That is a different point. Ben seems bothered by this, but not me. I do not mind that True+1 is 2. I won't do it, but I do not object to it being possible. I do

pairs from a list

2008-01-21 Thread Alan Isaac
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Re: pairs from a list

2008-01-22 Thread Alan Isaac
I suppose my question should have been, is there an obviously faster way? Anyway, of the four ways below, the first is substantially fastest. Is there an obvious reason why? Thanks, Alan Isaac PS My understanding is that the behavior of the last is implementation dependent and not guaranteed

Re: pairs from a list

2008-01-22 Thread Alan Isaac
that it.next() will be performed from left to right, so there is no risk that e.g. pairs4([1, 2, 3, 4]) returns [(2, 1), (4, 3)]. Is there anything else that I am overlooking? [1] http://docs.python.org/lib/itertools-functions.html URL:http://bugs.python.org/issue1121416 fwiw, Alan Isaac

Re: pairs from a list

2008-01-22 Thread Alan Isaac
Arnaud Delobelle wrote: pairs4 wins. Oops. I see a smaller difference, but yes, pairs4 wins. Alan Isaac import time from itertools import islice, izip x = range(51) def pairs1(x): return izip(islice(x,0,None,2),islice(x,1,None,2)) def pairs2(x): xiter = iter(x) while True

Re: basic output question

2008-01-25 Thread Alan Isaac
John Deas wrote: My problem is that f.read() outputs nothing Since ``open`` did not give you an IOError, you did get a handle to the files, so this suggests that the files you read are empty... Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: find minimum associated values

2008-01-25 Thread Alan Isaac
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd use the first solution. It can be speeded up a bit with a try/except: for k,v in kv: try: if d[k] v: d[k] = v except KeyError: d[k] = v Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: find minimum associated values

2008-01-25 Thread Alan Isaac
Alan Isaac wrote: #sort by id and then value kv_sorted = sorted(kv, key=lambda x: (id(x[0]),x[1])) #groupby: first element in each group is object and its min value d =dict( g.next() for k,g in groupby( kv_sorted, key=lambda x: x[0] ) ) Yes, that appears to be fastest and is pretty easy

Re: find minimum associated values

2008-01-25 Thread Alan Isaac
Steven Bethard wrote: [3rd approach] Seems pretty enough to me. ;-) I find it most attractive of the lot. But its costs would rise if the number of values per object were large. Anyway, I basically agree. Thanks, Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

find minimum associated values

2008-01-25 Thread Alan Isaac
I have a small set of objects associated with a larger set of values, and I want to map each object to its minimum associated value. The solutions below work, but I would like to see prettier solutions... Thank you, Alan Isaac

Re: find minimum associated values

2008-01-25 Thread Alan Isaac
Paul Rubin wrote: How about something like: kv_sorted = sorted(kv, key=lambda x: (id(x[0]), x[1])) You mean like this? #sort by id and then value kv_sorted = sorted(kv, key=lambda x: (id(x[0]),x[1])) #groupby: first element in each group is object and its min value d =dict( g.next() for

Re: Python and Combinatorics

2007-10-25 Thread Alan Isaac
none wrote: Is there some package to calculate combinatorical stuff like (n over k), i.e., n!/(k!(n - k!) ? Yes, in SciPy. Alan Isaac from scipy.misc.common import comb help(comb) Help on function comb in module scipy.misc.common: comb(N, k, exact=0) Combinations of N things

simple try/except question

2007-10-29 Thread Alan Isaac
Is the behavior below expected? If so, why is the exception not caught? Thanks, Alan Isaac x,y='','' try: x/y ... except TypeError: print 'oops' ... Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'str' and 'str' -- http

Re: simple try/except question

2007-10-29 Thread Alan Isaac
Tim Chase wrote: It works for me(tm)... Python 2.4.3 Sorry to have left out that detail. Yes, it works for me in Python 2.4, but not in 2.5.1. The code I posted was copyied from the interpreter. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: simple try/except question

2007-10-29 Thread Alan Isaac
False alarm. Fresh start of interpreter and all is well. Apologies. Still tracking. Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: simple try/except question

2007-10-29 Thread Alan Isaac
Gabriel Genellina wrote: Perhaps you reassigned TypeError? Yes, that was it. Sheesh. Thanks! Alan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-04 Thread Alan Isaac
result1. I execute it again; I get result2. From then on I get result2, unless I delete module.pyc again, in which case I once again get result1. Can someone explain this to me? Thank you, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-05 Thread Alan Isaac
is unlikely. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-05 Thread Alan Isaac
a minimum case. But surely I am not the first to notice this! Alan Isaac PS I'll send you the files off list. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-05 Thread Alan Isaac
does not address the common need of playing with a package in progress or a package under consideration without installing it. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-07 Thread Alan Isaac
!! Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-08 Thread Alan Isaac
!= result2) Do you see something different than this if you run the test as I suggested? If not, how can in not involve the .pyc file (in some sense)? Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Isaac
Peter Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan Isaac wrote: There is nothing wrong with the random module -- you get the same numbers on every run. When there is no pyc-file Python uses some RAM to create it and therefore your GridPlayer instances are located

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Isaac
think the docs for sets and dicts should include a red flag: do not use these as iterators if you want replicable results. (Side note to Carsten: this does not require listing every little thing.) Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Isaac
Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, the root cause of Peter's specific example is the fact that the default implementation of __hash__() and __eq__() rely on identity comparisons. Two separate invocations of the same script give different objects by

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Isaac
did not claim that *that* phrase was adequate. I note that you cut off which is non-random! Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-10 Thread Alan Isaac
over a set returns elements in an arbitrary order, which may depend on the memory location of the elements. fwiw, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-10 Thread Alan Isaac
Alan Isaac requested: http://docs.python.org/lib/typesmapping.html: to footnote (3), add phrase http://docs.python.org/lib/types-set.html: append a new sentence to 2nd paragraph Hamilton, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Keys and values are listed

Re: change of random state when pyc created??

2007-05-11 Thread Alan Isaac
. Iteration over a set returns elements in an indeterminate order, which generally depends on factors outside the scope of the containing program. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

docs patch: dicts and sets

2007-05-11 Thread Alan Isaac
/lib/types-set.html: append a new sentence to 2nd par. Iteration over a set returns elements in an indeterminate order,which generally depends on factors outside the scope of the containing program. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

docs patch: dicts and sets

2007-05-15 Thread Alan Isaac
of the containing program. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: docs patch: dicts and sets

2007-05-19 Thread Alan Isaac
I submitted the language based on Bill and Carsten's proposals: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=105470aid=1721372group_id=5470 That language has been rejected. You many want to read the discussion and see if acceptible language still seems discoverable. Alan Isaac -- http

Re: docs patch: dicts and sets

2007-05-20 Thread Alan Isaac
, and in fact I just used the proposals of others. I just wanted there to be some clue for users who read the docs. If you prefer to leave such users baffled, so be it. My effort is exhausted. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: File processing - is Python suitable?

2007-06-19 Thread Alan Isaac
to process these files? Someone can. ;-) However if the file is structured, awk may be faster, since this sounds like the kind of report generation it was designed for. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

cannot have test scripts in packages?

2007-06-21 Thread Alan Isaac
of inserting the package location into sys.path and have test.py rely on the user having done this? What is the recommended handling of demo or test scripts for a package? Thank you, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Writing PNG with pure Python

2006-06-09 Thread Alan Isaac
your code, so you get to license it. But if you wish to solicit patches, a more Pythonic license is IMHO more likely to prove fruitful. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Numeric help!

2006-06-29 Thread Alan Isaac
) Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

design question: generator object with other attributes

2007-03-22 Thread Alan Isaac
the value the object get by calling the wrapped generator. A reasonable approach? Thanks, Alan Isaac PS Here is a useless class to illustrate the basic idea that you could have both attribute access and a generator-connected ``next`` method. class Start2Stop: def __init(start,stop

Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

2007-04-07 Thread Alan Isaac
have a fixed order. A tuple is natural. Now for a player you want to construct the opponents. If I had the index i it wd be p[:i]+p[i+1:], but how to get the index? Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

2007-04-12 Thread Alan Isaac
of a response is that?? This sounds to me like I do not really see the point of immutability, which is no response at all. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

2007-04-12 Thread Alan Isaac
we will be allowed to treat sequences that are naturally immutable as immutable or will be forced for no real reason (I believe the code maintenance issue has been dealt with) to treat them differently. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

2007-04-12 Thread Alan Isaac
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The main point of immutability is hashability by value (rather than by id). You are treating an effect as a cause. This is the main point *because* of an artifical constraint on tuples. Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http

Re: Several images onto one 2D-plot in matplotlib?

2007-04-12 Thread Alan Isaac
http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html esp http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/screenshots/axes_demo.py hth, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: comparison with None

2007-04-18 Thread Alan Isaac
than any object, and the current behavior does not seem to be guaranteed. Is that about right? Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: comparison with None

2007-04-18 Thread Alan Isaac
than any object, and the current behavior does not seem to be guaranteed. Is that about right? Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: comparison with None

2007-04-19 Thread Alan Isaac
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Steven Howe wrote: Alan Isaac wrote: [type comparison stuff] I love scripting languages ... but sometimes an explicit evaluation that one would find in a compiled language is better. Actually all that language

Re: comparison with None

2007-04-19 Thread Alan Isaac
. Indeed, that was the basis of my original question. I wondered why no exception was raised. Thanks, Alan Isaac PS Note that the change you mention will conflict with currently documented behavior: objects of different types always compare unequal. So this seems like a large change. -- http

gotcha or bug? random state reset on irrelevant import

2007-04-24 Thread Alan Isaac
Running test.py will print False. Is this expected/desirable? Thanks, Alan Isaac %%% test.py %%% from random import seed, getstate seed(217) x = getstate() from test2 import Trivial y = getstate() print x == y % test2.py % from random import seed seed(314) class

Re: gotcha or bug? random state reset on irrelevant import

2007-04-24 Thread Alan Isaac
be able to use seed to set a global state? (See for contrast numpy.random, for which my appreciation has just increased yet again.) Cheers, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: gotcha or bug? random state reset on irrelevant import

2007-04-24 Thread Alan Isaac
James Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if __name__ == __main__: seed(314) Thanks for this suggestion. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: gotcha or bug? random state reset on irrelevant import

2007-04-25 Thread Alan Isaac
Alex Martelli said: What do you mean? Just instantiate the random.Random class and you can call .seed on it as well as anything else, and no other module will infringe on your module's Random instance. The global functions of module random exist for those who *SPECIFICALLY* want globally

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