Re: [Tutor] beginning to code

2017-09-12 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:03:58 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: >> Rick Johnson wrote: >> > Ruby: >> > farray = [1.5, 1.9, 2.0, 1.0] >> > uniqueIntegers = farray.map{|f| f.to_i()}.uniq.length >> > >> > Python: >> > flist = [1.5, 1.9, 2.0, 1.0] >> > uniqueIntegers =

Re: Python dress

2017-09-13 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 04:15:26 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:12:25 +0100, MRAB wrote: > >>> I don't recall seeing them go into paroxysms of gender confusion when >>> Prince Charles, >>> Duke of Edinburgh, appears in public wearing a kilt. >> >> You do know that Prince Char

Re: Python dress

2017-09-13 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:15:48 +0200, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 2017-09-13 02:12, MRAB wrote: >> On 2017-09-13 00:32, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >>> The amusing thing to my mind is that the pro-discrimination, >>> anti-equality faction also tend to be the most conservative[1] >>> pro-monarchy faction. >

Re: Test Bank for Governing Texas, 3rd Edition by Champagne Harpham

2017-09-17 Thread alister via Python-list
> > > I am interested in the testbank for this book. What is the price ? Don't encourage spammers -- California, n.: From Latin "calor", meaning "heat" (as in English "calorie" or Spanish "caliente"); and "fornia'" for "sexual intercourse" or "fornication." Hence: Tierra de California, "

Re: Research paper "Energy Efficiency across Programming Languages: How does energy, time, and memory relate?"

2017-09-20 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:40:17 -0400, leam hall wrote: > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Stephan Houben < > stephan...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > >> Op 2017-09-19, Steven D'Aprano schreef > pearwood.info>: >> >> > There is a significant chunk of the Python community for whom "just >> > pip instal

Re: Research paper "Energy Efficiency across Programming Languages: How does energy, time, and memory relate?"

2017-09-20 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:14:24 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > On 20 September 2017 at 13:58, alister via Python-list > wrote: >> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:40:17 -0400, leam hall wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Stephan Houben < >>> stephan...@gmail.com

Re: Assertions

2017-09-22 Thread alister via Python-list
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 03:44:59 +1000, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 02:29 am, Tobiah wrote: > >> Are these completely equivalent? >> >> def foo(thing): >> >> assert(thing > 0), "Thing must be greater than zero" >> >> >> def foo(thing): >> >> if not (thing > 0): ra

Re: Assertions

2017-09-22 Thread alister via Python-list
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:15:54 +1000, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:50 pm, alister wrote: > >>> The bottom line is, if I saw >>> >>> if not (thing > 0): raise AssertionError(...) >>> >>> in a code review, I'd probably insist that either it be changed to use >>> `assert`, >>> or t

Re: Grumpy-pants spoil-sport [was Re: [Tutor] beginning to code]

2017-09-26 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:16:47 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2017-09-26, Ned Batchelder wrote: >> On 9/25/17 10:20 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:54 am, Ned Batchelder wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>> >>> >> We've been asked nicely by the list mod to stop :) > > Perhaps we could a

Re: Beginners and experts (Batchelder blog post)

2017-09-28 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:18:10 -0700, Larry Hudson wrote: > On 09/27/2017 09:41 AM, leam hall wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ned Batchelder >> wrote: > [snip] >> >> The question is, what should a person "know" when hiring out as a >> programmer? What is 'know" and what should be "known

Re: Spam

2017-10-03 Thread alister via Python-list
> They are literally criminals, they use computer viruses and malware to > hijack people's computers to send their spam, and you want to trust them > and buy from them? this was probably a "Drive By" posy to get the original spam more attention & possibly bypass spam filters -- Come live w

Re: The "loop and a half"

2017-10-04 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 20:16:29 +1300, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 01:40 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>>You know, you don't HAVE to economize on letters. It's okay to call >>>your parameters "prompt" instead of "prmt". Remember, that's part of >>>your API. >>

Re: stop/start windows services -python command

2017-10-06 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:37:11 -0700, Prabu T.S. wrote: > On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 8:33:02 PM UTC-4, MRAB wrote: >> On 2017-10-05 23:32, Prabu T.S. wrote: >> > On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 6:16:44 PM UTC-4, Prabu T.S. wrote: >> >> hello all,what is the command to stop and start windows ser

Re: The "loop and a half"

2017-10-09 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 08:00:34 +0200, Lele Gaifax wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >>> Or you could use a GUI editor that runs locally and has the capability >>> to edit files remotely over ssh. >> >> That's also a possibility, but I have yet to find one that can SSH to a >> server as a non-root

Re: The "loop and a half"

2017-10-09 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:27:27 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Grant Edwards : > >> On 2017-10-09, alister via Python-list wrote: >> >>> or if you want the luxury of a GUI editor simply ssh to the remote >>> machine & run the editor there (using X forwardi

Re: Lies in education [was Re: The "loop and a half"]

2017-10-13 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 01:48:44 +1300, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> I wasn't questioning where the data came from, but how the compiler can >> write to READ ONLY MEMORY which might not even be in the same continent >> as the compiler that generated the code. > > I thought it would

Re: Heroku (was Re: Lies in education [was Re: The "loop and a half"])

2017-10-14 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:41:08 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > On 2017-10-13 21:42, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> That's one way to put it. Another is that to use Python I need to buy >> a new service that is already configured. > > That's exactly the same for PHP. You can't use that either unless > so

Re: how to read in the newsreader

2017-10-16 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 08:57:18 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Michael Torrie wrote: >> On 10/15/2017 08:50 PM, Andrew Z wrote: >> > Gents, >> > how do i get this group in a newsreader? The digest i'm getting is >> > not >> > workable for me - i can't reply , can only read the replies from the >> > m

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-23 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:41:55 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > On 23 October 2017 at 10:32, wrote: >> According to this website. This is an uncompressable stream. >> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompressible_string >> >> 12344321 >> >> It only takes seven 8 bit bytes to represent this >

Re: Compression of random binary data

2017-10-23 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:40:59 +, Neil Cerutti wrote: > On 2017-10-23, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:18 PM, alister via Python-list >> wrote: >>> On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:41:55 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >>> >>>> On 23 October 20

Re: for/ if against dict - one liner

2017-11-14 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 00:44:18 -0500, Andrew Z wrote: > Hello, > i wonder how do i get the "for" and "if" to work against a dictionary > in > one line? > > basically i want to "squeeze": > dct= [ 1 : "one", 2:"two", 3:"three"] > for k, val in dct: >if k >= 2: > # do magnificent things

Re: Pros and cons of Python sources?

2017-11-25 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 09:20:44 +, Martin Schöön wrote: > Some time ago I was advised that having a Python installation based on > several sources (pip and Debian's repos in my case) is not a good idea. > I need to tidy up my installation and I don't know what to opt for and > what to opt out. >

Re: connect four (game)

2017-11-26 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:26:52 -0800, namenobodywants wrote: > On Friday, November 24, 2017 at 8:07:07 AM UTC-8, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> This is the kind of function that needs a docstring and some comments. >> What exactly is this doing? What are the "lines" of the board? What's >> the differen

Re: Please tell me how to execute python file in Ubuntu by double click

2017-12-09 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 10:35:58 +1200, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 07:58 pm, Lawrence Dâ ÖOliveiro wrote: > >> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 3:39:26 AM UTC+13, Rick Johnson wrote: >>> >>> Sounds like your OS file associations are all botched-up ... >> >> Linux doesnâ Öt do â £OS fil

Re: Please tell me how to execute python file in Ubuntu by double

2017-12-12 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 05:52:41 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: > Rustom Mody wrote: >> This thread is getting like a mini hologram of our current surreal time >> If we can put aside who is right and wrong for a moment we see the >> more frightening spectacle that Repubs and democrats, Remainers and >> B

Re: Please tell me how to execute python file in Ubuntu by double

2017-12-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 11:48:20 +1300, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Rhodri James wrote: >> Even then there was RiscOS, which divorced file names from file types >> entirely. > > As did classic MacOS. > > I believe MacOSX also has the ability to store a file type as metadata, > but it doesn't seem to be u

Re: Python Learning

2017-12-17 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 14:41:00 +1200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram): > >> Varun R writes: >>>I'm new to programming, can anyone guide me, how to start learning >>>python programming language >> >> As a start, one should learn: >> >> 1.) how to install Python >>

Re: What is wrong with this regex for matching emails?

2017-12-19 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 07:57:27 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Peng Yu writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to extract "a...@efg.hij.xyz". But it only shows ".hij". > > Others have address this question. I'll answer a separate one: > >> Does anybody see what is wrong with it? Thanks. > > One thing th

Re: What is wrong with this regex for matching emails?

2017-12-19 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:21:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:21 AM, alister via Python-list > wrote: >> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 07:57:27 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: >>> A more correct match would boil down to: >>> >>> * Match any print

Re: Goto

2017-12-28 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 00:58:48 -0200, Duram wrote: > How to use goto in python? > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com Dont! actually you cant - there isn't one* *at least not in the core language no doubt some sick person will have manager to hack togethe

Re: Goto

2017-12-29 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:54:31 -0800, breamoreboy wrote: > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 7:40:14 PM UTC, alister wrote: >> On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 00:58:48 -0200, Duram wrote: >> >> > How to use goto in python? >> > >> > --- >> > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> > http://www.avg.

Re: : ✨🍰✨ python 2018 wiki - a piece of cake ✨🍰✨ --- 🙄🙄🙄

2018-01-08 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 08 Jan 2018 15:55:00 +, user net wrote: > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer: >> there is a language called python by guido >> >> you can ask your questions here ! > > > > ✨🍰✨ python - a piece of cake ✨🍰✨ > > > when u read this post in thunderbird or torBrowser, you see colored > emo

Re: Installing "kitchen" module

2018-01-22 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:19:51 -0800, codydaviestv wrote: > On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:41:04 UTC+10:30, bream...@gmail.com > wrote: >> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 3:37:44 PM UTC, codyda...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> > So here's the situation. I am unfamiliar with Python but need it to >> > expor

Re: Where has the practice of sending screen shots as source code come from?

2018-01-29 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 22:11:12 +, Stefan Ram wrote: > Tim Delaney writes: >>These are support people who are employed by the company I'm contracted >>to. >>Doesn't matter how often I try to train them otherwise, this type of >>thing keeps happening. > > That might be more a problem of power.

Re: Where has the practice of sending screen shots as source code come from?

2018-01-29 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 15:20:06 +0100, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote: > On 01/28/2018 04:43 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: >> I've never been a Windows user, but at my current job, Windows is core >> to just about everything, so I am forced to use it for a lot of stuff >> (Outlook, SQL Server, Excel, etc). > > I

Re: Where has the practice of sending screen shots as source code come from?

2018-01-29 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:17:39 +1300, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code >> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet >> forever.) > > Shh! Don't give them ideas! just wait, once they reali

Re: Where has the practice of sending screen shots as source code come from?

2018-01-30 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:28:58 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:32:11 -0800, Rustom Mody wrote: > >> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 8:37:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for >>> trivial pieces of text, a

Re: Where has the practice of sending screen shots as source code come from?

2018-01-31 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:22:39 +0100, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote: > On 01/29/2018 03:48 PM, alister via Python-list wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 15:20:06 +0100, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote: >> >>> On 01/28/2018 04:43 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: >>>> I've never b

Re: Help to debug my free library

2018-01-31 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 06:48:03 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Victor Porton wrote: >> wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Le mercredi 31 janvier 2018 20:13:06 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Victor Porton wrote: > LibComC

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:01:35 -0800, superchromix wrote: > Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at > comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months > ago. > > Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was blocked by Google > Groups. > > When trying to access

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-03 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 06:49:57 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:34 AM, Mark Lawrence > wrote: >> On 03/02/18 17:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote: >>> You seem to confuse the mailing-list and the newsgroup. The >>> mailing-list doesn't have a spam problem, and it is already (lightly)

Re: "None" and "pass"

2018-02-06 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 08:55:35 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Ben Finney > wrote: >> Chris Angelico writes: >> >>> As one special case, I would accept this sort of code: >>> >>> def f(): >>> ... >>> >>> (three dots representing the special value Ellipsis) >>> >>

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google

2018-02-11 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:12:54 +1200, mm0fmf wrote: > On 09/02/2018 21:05, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: >>> codew...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > [snip

Re: Regex on a Dictionary

2018-02-13 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 13:42:08 +, Rhodri James wrote: > On 13/02/18 13:11, Stanley Denman wrote: >> I am trying to performance a regex on a "string" of text that python >> isinstance is telling me is a dictionary. When I run the code I get >> the following error: >> >> {'/Title': '1F: Progres

Re: Respam levels.

2018-02-13 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 12:49:26 +, C W Rose wrote: > Having run a check for straightforward spam, I now find that there's a > site editing and reposting non-spam posts. An example of the changed > headers follows: > > Original post headers: >> >> From c...@seckford.org Sun Feb 11 23:23:22 2018

Re: How to make Python run as fast (or faster) than Julia

2018-02-23 Thread alister via Python-list
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 03:11:36 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 2/22/2018 10:31 PM, Python wrote: > >>> Why do you care about the 50 million calls? That's crazy -- the >>> important thing is *calculating the Fibonacci numbers as efficiently >>> as possible*. > >> If you are writing practical program

Re: help me ?

2018-02-27 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 01:40:16 -0800, sotaro237 wrote: > Define 2 lists. The first one must contain the integer values 1, 2 and 3 > and the second one the string values a, b and c. Iterate through both > lists to create another list that contains all the combinations of the A > and B elements. The f

Re: py2exe output flagged as malware

2018-02-28 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 09:53:09 +, Robin Becker wrote: > I see this has happened to others in the past. I'm using 32 bit python > 2.7.10 with py2exe 3.3 on windows 7. The exes work fine, > but when I try to download into windows 10 I'm getting the exes > immediately removed as malware. > > Is th

Re: Bypassing firewall

2018-03-05 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 08:37:14 +, Faruq Bashir wrote: > How will i bypass web application firewall For what purpose? is this your firewall? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Style for docstring

2022-04-22 Thread alister via Python-list
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 14:36:27 -0500, Michael F. Stemper wrote: > I'm writing a function that is nearly self-documenting by its name, > but still want to give it a docstring. Which of these would be best from > a stylistic point of view: > > >Tells caller whether or not a permutation is even.

Re: Python & nmap

2022-05-19 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 18 May 2022 23:52:05 +0200, ^Bart wrote: > Hi guys, > > i need to copy some files from a Debian client to all linux embedded > clients. > > I know the linux commands like: > > # scp "my_file" root@192.168.205.x/my_directory > > But... I have to upload 100 devices, I have a lan and a dh

Re: Humour

2022-09-06 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sun, 4 Sep 2022 02:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Ali Muhammad wrote: > Hi python devs it seems you do not have a sense of humour and I am here > to change that please I request to make it so on April 1st you change > the print function to a capital P this will be funny and people will use > language there

Re: on writing a while loop for rolling two dice

2021-09-07 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:53:29 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-09-06, Stefan Ram wrote: >> "Avi Gross" writes: >>> In languages like C/C++ there are people who make up macros like: >>>#define INDEFINITELY_LOOP while (true) >>>Or something like that and then allow the preprocessor to replace

Re: Friday Finking: Contorted loops

2021-09-12 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 10:11:15 +0200, jak wrote: > -- snip -- >> >> An inconsistency that I have been able to notice is this: >> someone suggests to remedy the absence of the do-while with: >> while True: >> ... >> if condition: >> break >> the problem arises if the while has

Re: ANN: Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon (2021)

2021-09-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 03:26:39 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 3:17 AM Mostowski Collapse > wrote: >> >> I really wonder why my Python implementation is a factor 40 slower than >> my JavaScript implementation. >> Structurally its the same code. >> >> > Very hard to know. Your

Re: ANN: Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon (2021)

2021-09-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:23:10 +0200, Mostowski Collapse wrote: > I really wonder why my Python implementation is a factor 40 slower than > my JavaScript implementation. > Structurally its the same code. > > You can check yourself: > > Python Version: > https://github.com/jburse/dogelog-moon/blob/

Re: ANN: Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon (2021)

2021-09-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:31:48 -0700, Mostowski Collapse wrote: > There is a further problem with this: > >> for i,term in enumerate(term.args): >> mark_term(term.args[i]) > > It should read: > > for i,help in enumerate(term.args): > mark_term(help) > > But then i isn't need. even Better

Re: ANN: Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon (2021)

2021-09-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:40:52 +, alister wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:31:48 -0700, Mostowski Collapse wrote: > >> There is a further problem with this: >> >>> for i,term in enumerate(term.args): >>> mark_term(term.args[i]) >> >> It should read: >> >> for i,help in enumerate(term.args

Re: ANN: Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon (2021)

2021-09-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:48:18 -0700, Mostowski Collapse wrote: > And how do you iterate over the first n-1 elements of a list with n > elements? This is what my code does: > > i = 0 while i < len(term.args) - 1: > mark_term(term.args[i]) > i += 1 term = term.args[i] > > You can try yourse

Re: ANN: Dogelog Runtime, Prolog to the Moon (2021)

2021-09-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:56:47 -0700, Mostowski Collapse wrote: > What could be slow, repeatedly requesting the "args" > field. Maybe I should do: > > help = term.args i = 0 while i < len(help) - 1: > mark_term(help[i]) > i += 1 term = help[i] > No this construct is a common error in new p

Re: XML Considered Harmful

2021-09-21 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:12:10 -0500, Michael F. Stemper wrote: > On the prolog thread, somebody posted a link to: > > > One thing that it tangentially says is "XML is not the answer." > > I read this page right when I was about to write an

Re: XML Considered Harmful

2021-09-21 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 14:22:52 -0500, Michael F. Stemper wrote: > On 21/09/2021 13.49, alister wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:12:10 -0500, Michael F. Stemper wrote: >> >>> On the prolog thread, somebody posted a link to: >>> >>> >>> One thi

Re: The task is to invent names for things

2021-10-29 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 00:41:41 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > On 2021-10-27 12:41:56 +0200, Karsten Hilbert wrote: >> Am Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:36:33PM + schrieb Stefan Ram: >> > xyzzy = lambda x: 2 * x >> > . Sometimes, this can even lead to "naming paralysis", where one >> > thinks exces

Re: The task is to invent names for things

2021-10-29 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 00:38:17 +, Eli the Bearded wrote: > In comp.lang.python, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > ^^ > > Those all work. But if you are writing a new web framework and you name > your method to log stuff to a remote server "Britney" because you were > listening the sing

Re: What to write or search on github to get the code for what is written below:

2022-01-07 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 10:55:30 -0800 (PST), NArshad wrote: > All this is going to be in python’s flask and HTML only > > 1. First, I have to check in the Excel sheet or table whether the book > user has entered is present in the book bank or not. > Excel is the wrong application for storing this da

Re: What to write or search on github to get the code for what is written below:

2022-01-09 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 23:04:20 -0800 (PST), NArshad wrote: > On Friday, 7 January 2022 at 02:59:17 UTC+5, alister wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 10:55:30 -0800 (PST), NArshad wrote: >> >> > All this is going to be in python’s flask and HTML only >> > >> > 1. First, I have to check in the Excel sheet

Re: What to write or search on github to get the code for what is written below:

2022-01-09 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 08:53:58 -0800 (PST), NArshad wrote: > -Whose time?? > My time I do not have not time to switch to a database but if necessary > I can use the database to make changes in Excel column entries. > > -No changes?? > > I cannot change the column names. > > > -“maybe the point is

Re: Writing a string with comma in one column of CSV file

2022-01-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:56:22 + (UTC), Mahmood Naderan wrote: > Hi, > I use the following line to write some information to a CSV file which > is comma delimited. > > f = open(output_file, 'w', newline='') > wr = csv.writer(f) > ... > f.write(str(n) + "," + str(key) + "\n" ) > > > Problem is

Re: How do you log in your projects?

2022-02-11 Thread alister via Python-list
On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 19:38:23 +, Martin Di Paola wrote: >>> - On a line per line basis? on a function/method basis? > > In general I prefer logging line by line instead per function. > > It is easy to add a bunch of decorators to the functions and get the > logs of all the program but I most o

Python Qualification?

2022-03-29 Thread alister via Python-list
I'm currently considering a career change (not much choice actually just been made redundant). I'd like to be able to turn my interest in python to my advantage, What qualifications do employers look for? -- I'm reporting for duty as a modern person. I want to do the Latin Hustle now! -- h

Re: Python Qualification?

2022-03-30 Thread alister via Python-list
On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 20:49:53 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:26:03 - (UTC), alister > declaimed the following: > >>I'm currently considering a career change (not much choice actually just >>been made redundant). >>I'd like to be able to turn my interest in python to

Re: ANN: eGenix Antispam Bot for Telegram 0.2.0

2022-04-04 Thread alister via Python-list
On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 14:40:57 +0200, eGenix Team wrote: > > > ANNOUNCING > > eGenix Antispam Bot for Telegram > > Version 0.2.0 > >A simple, yet effective bot

Re: is there somebody that have experince with python and canopen

2022-04-15 Thread alister via Python-list
On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 10:18:33 -0700 (PDT), luca72.b...@gmail.com wrote: > We are searching for someone that can develop a python program for use > servomotor for automotive. What location & what is the salary? (although based on the method of recruitment I doubt that you will get many takers)

Re: test

2018-03-12 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:43:01 -0500, Yuan Xue wrote: > test failed -- Mollison's Bureaucracy Hypothesis: If an idea can survive a bureaucratic review and be implemented it wasn't worth doing. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Style Q: Instance variables defined outside of __init__

2018-03-20 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:52:29 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 02:43:13 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > >> I think a claim that in all programs all attributes should be set *in* >> __init__, as opposed to *during* initialization, is wrong. All >> attribute setting is side-effect fr

Re: Thank you Python community!

2018-03-20 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 19:21:04 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 6:37:21 PM UTC-5, Ben Finney wrote: > >> -- >> \ "Success is going from one failure to the next without a loss >> | >> `\ of enthusiasm." -- Winston Churchill >> | >> _o

Re: Data Integrity Parsing json

2018-04-26 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:32:01 -0700, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > Hi > > Hoping for guidance trying to find some advanced articles or guides or > topics for json parsing. > > I can parse and extract json just dandy. > > What I am trying to figure out is how I give myself surety that the data > I parse

Re: Stefan's headers [was:Names and identifiers]

2018-06-11 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:03:59 +0100, MRAB wrote: > On 2018-06-11 20:17, Rick Johnson wrote: >> On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:02:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> You're trying to argue against my hypothetical statements about game >>> publishing, and declaring that it's possible to use sof

Re: What is the "Unpacking Arguments List" rule?

2018-06-13 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 14:21:53 +0800, sa...@caprilion.com.tw wrote: > [Of the first part] > line 19 is > action(progress=progress, *args) > where the args is a tuple > args = (i, 3) > and the function is defined as > def action(id, reps, progress): > > In documents 4.7.2. Keyword Arg

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-15 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:28:38 -0700, T Berger wrote: > I'm suspecting that posting to python google groups (this site) gets > more responses than mailing to the python list. Am I correct? Also, > contrary to what I read on the python list information sheet, what shows > up in this forum does not ma

Re: syntax difference

2018-06-16 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 12:01:16 -0700, Sharan Basappa wrote: > Is there a difference between these prints. The first one looks a bit > complex. So, why should it be used? > > my_age = 35 # not a lie > > print "my age %s." % my_age print "my age ", my_age > > Output: > %run "D:/Projects/Initiatives

Re: Understanding memory location of Python variables

2018-06-16 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 13:19:04 -0400, Joel Goldstick wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 12:38 PM, wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm intrigued by the output of the following code, which was totally >> contrary to my expectations. Can someone tell me what is happening? >> > myName = "Kevin" > i

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

2018-06-16 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:25:52 -0400, William Ray Wing wrote: >> On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:54:15 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: >> I once had a Mustek color scanner that came wit

Re: Python list vs google group

2018-06-18 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 09:32:05 -0700, T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. > > It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a problem and still waiting > for replies to my email. I've decided to repo

Re: syntax difference

2018-06-20 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 03:13:09 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:13:40 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: > >> On 06/19/2018 04:13 AM, Ed Kellett wrote: >>> I think we're all--still--missing the larger point that "easy to >>> remove" is a completely stupid metric for judging language featur

Re: syntax difference

2018-06-20 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:59:40 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-06-20, Alister via Python-list wrote: > >> Annotations were invented by the Nazi's on the explicit instruction of >> Hitler. there, can someone now invoke Godwins law & call this >> discussion

Re: syntax difference

2018-06-20 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:25:50 -0700, bart4858 wrote: > Some of that can be done. It may not need specific support. > > But my intention is to have an ordinary language for everyday coding not > one that can only be understood by CS professors. > > Mine is unusual in that I can drop features I rar

Re: syntax difference

2018-06-21 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:41:23 -0700, bart4858 wrote: > The actual interpreter code is irrelevant. Switch would be a feature of > the language being interpreted, not of the interpreter. > > If the task is to match an expression X against a variety of values, > then expressing that as a switch means

Re: Python for beginners or not? [was Re: syntax difference]

2018-06-25 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:36:25 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > i think he means like for a loop to iterate over a list you might do > > list = [1,2,3] > for i in range(len(list)): > print(list[i]) > > > but the you might as well go for the simpler : > > > for elem in list: > >

Re: Python for beginners or not? [was Re: syntax difference]

2018-06-25 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:42:27 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 25/06/18 10:10, Alister via Python-list wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:36:25 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: >> >>> i think he means like for a loop to iterate over a list you might do >>>

Re: Something new which all programmers world wide will appreciate

2018-06-28 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:30:15 -0700, Rob Gaddi wrote: > On 06/27/2018 02:14 PM, skybuck2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> Now I don't like the French much ! LOL. >> >> But this time they have invented something which will fill programmers >> with tears of joy ! =D >> >> http://www.euronews.com/2018/06/27

Re: Using Python with a website

2018-07-05 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 04 Jul 2018 23:25:14 +, Adrian Taylor wrote: > G'day All, > > I have just discovered Python and thanks to a script by Ethan I can read > a foxpro database and change the required values. > However my next big step is to be able to use this python feature within > a website. > > Basic

Re: test for absence of infinite loop

2018-07-17 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:10:49 +0100, Robin Becker wrote: > A user reported an infinite loop in reportlab. I determined a possible > cause and fix and would like to test for absence of the loop. Is there > any way to check for presence/absence of an infinite loop in python? I > imagine we could do s

Re: using python's logo in your own logo

2018-08-09 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 12:13:07 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > in short, > > can you use python's logo in your own logo without credit? > > yours, > > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius I would expect the answer to that to be a big NO. I am pretty sure

Re: (new try) - Running a second wsgi script from within the first wsgi script

2018-09-10 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 18:47:49 -0700, Νίκος Βέργος wrote: > I have 3 wsgi scripts listening on 3 locations. What i'm trying to run > an wsgi script from within another wsgi script with the following > statement. > > page = 'clientele' > pdata = requests.get( 'http://superhost.gr/' + page ) > pdata

Re: Sending file to the user gives UnicodeEncodeError in Flask framework

2018-09-12 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 06:57:36 -0700, Νίκος Βέργος wrote: > I want to send the user a file when he clicks the appropriate button and > I'm suing the following. > > # Prepare selected file for download... > send_file( '/home/nikos/wsgi/static/files/' + filename ) > > But no matter what

Re: Experiences with a programming exercise

2018-09-15 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:08:57 +, Stefan Ram wrote: > I gave two different functions: > > def triangle(): > for i in range( 3 ): > forward( 99 ); left( 360/3 ) > > def rectangle() > for i in range( 4 ): > forward( 99 ); left( 360/4 ) > > , and the exercise was to wri

Re: What's an elegant way to test for list index existing?

2018-09-29 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:00:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I have a list created by:- > > fld = shlex.split(ln) > > It may contain 3, 4 or 5 entries according to data read into ln. What's > the neatest way of setting the fourth and fifth entries to an empty > string if they don't (yet) exist?

Re: What's an elegant way to test for list index existing?

2018-09-30 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:45:21 +0100, Bart wrote: > On 30/09/2018 11:14, Chris Green wrote: >> Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 12:21 PM Chris Green wrote: I have a list created by:- fld = shlex.split(ln) It may contain 3, 4 or 5 entries accordin

Re: Program to find Primes of the form prime(n+2) * prime(n+1) - prime(n) +- 1.

2018-10-04 Thread Alister via Python-list
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 09:43:07 -0700, Musatov wrote: > On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 11:12:43 AM UTC-5, Michael Torrie > wrote: >> On 10/03/2018 09:26 AM, Musatov wrote: >> > I don't even know where to begin! (I'm reading the Dummies book) >> >> If you have no experience in computer programming,

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