and not SyntaxError; I'd
like to suggest special-casing this so that using getattr(), setattr(), and
hasattr() in this way raise SyntaxError instead as I think that will be less
astonishing.
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if there is any established
scheduler which can run the jobs from different servers too.
Try SCOOP:
https://code.google.com/p/scoop/
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On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:33 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014, at 07:23, Ben Finney wrote:
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I'd like to suggest that getattr(), setattr(), and hasattr() all be
modified so that syntactically invalid statements raise SyntaxErrors.
What
(https://docs.python.org/3/library/argparse.html) instead.
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I'm running OS X 10.5.6 (uname -a == Darwin 9.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.6.0:
Mon Nov
24 17:37:00 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/RELEASE_I386 i386) I get the
following
error after compiling Python 3.0. Note that I have NOT installed
. Whenever you're done with it, you can merge the
changes back into whatever you your group see as the real branch. That is
the model I use at work, and it works fairly well, and its saved me once
already when the laptop I was working on decided to die on me.
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[1] http://nvie.com
problem for extension classes, etc.)
- Ideally pure python with few dependencies.
- NOT shoveling data out to the internet! MUST be wholly contained on my
machine!
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various mysterious failures after
that. It may be that Yosemite fixes those failures, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:23 AM, Fabio Zadrozny fabi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cem,
I didn't read the whole long thread, but I thought I'd point you
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On Feb 26, 2015 4:00 AM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
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I think I see what you're talking about now. Does
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slightly less surprising by allowing the user to track them,
releasing them when they aren't needed without having to figure out where the
callbacks were registered. However, it appears I'm making things more
surprising rather than less.
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On Feb 21, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano
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Cem Karan wrote:
On Feb 21, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, so it would violate the principle
On Feb 22, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
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On Feb 21, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
I use callbacks all the time but haven't had any problems with strong
references.
I am careful to move my objects
On Feb 22, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
Correct. The GUI engine ultimately owns everything. Of course, this is
a very simple case (imagine a little notification popup; you don't
care about
On Feb 22, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
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On Feb 21, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Maybe the logic of the receiving object isn't prepared for the callback
anymore after an intervening event.
The problem
method of the object, or if I store the bound method
directly, I suspect it will yield approximately the same results.
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On Feb 21, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
In order to inform users that certain bits of state have changed, I
require them to register a callback with my code
On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote:
On 2015-02-21, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 21, 2015, at 12:42 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
In order to inform users
On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, so if I'm reading your code correctly, you're breaking the cycle in your
object graph by making the GUI the owner of the callback, correct? No other
On Feb 22, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 07:16:14 -0500, Cem Karan writes:
This was PRECISELY the situation I was thinking about. My hope was
to make the callback mechanism slightly less surprising by allowing
the user to track
On Feb 22, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 17:09:01 -0500, Cem Karan writes:
Documentation is a given; it MUST be there. That said, documenting
something, but still making it surprising, is a bad idea. For
example, several people
at all times, so WeakMethod IS available to me.
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. I'm working out a possible API right now, once I have
some code that I can use to illustrate what I'm thinking to everyone, I'll post
it to the list.
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, and if they are no longer
alive, they are automatically removed from the WeakSet, preventing me from
accidentally calling them when they are dead. My question is simple; is this a
good design? If not, why not? Are there any potential 'gotchas' I should be
worried about?
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On Feb 22, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote:
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My goal is to make things as pythonic (whatever that means in this
case) and obvious as possible. Ideally, a novice can more or less
guess what will happen with my API without really having
On Feb 22, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 02/22/2015 05:13 AM, Cem Karan wrote:
Output:
From Evil Zombie: Surprise!
From Your Significant Other: Surprise!
In this case, the user made an error (just as Marko said in his earlier
message),
and forgot about
I'm combining two messages into one,
On Feb 24, 2015, at 12:29 AM, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015, at 00:20, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Cem Karan wrote:
I tend to structure my code as a tree or DAG of objects. The owner refers
to
the owned object, but the owned object has
On Feb 23, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Frank Millman fr...@chagford.com wrote:
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Good questions! That was why I was asking about 'gotchas' with WeakSets
originally. Honestly, the only way
On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 1:07 AM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree about closures; its the only way they could work. When I was
originally thinking about the library, I was trying to include all types
On Feb 21, 2015, at 12:42 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
In order to inform users that certain bits of state have changed, I require
them to register a callback with my code. The problem is that when I store
On Feb 21, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, so it would violate the principle of least surprise for you.
Interesting. Is this a general pattern in python? That is, callbacks are
owned
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Hi all, I'm working on a project that will involve the use of callbacks,
and I want to bounce an idea I had off
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Hi all, I'm working on a project that will involve the use of callbacks
On Feb 26, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
Cem Karan wrote:
I think I see what you're talking about now. Does WeakMethod
(https://docs.python.org/3/library/weakref.html#weakref.WeakMethod) solve
this problem?
Yes, that looks like it would work.
Cool
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Cem Karan cfkar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano
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On Thursday 23 April 2015 11:53, Cem Karan wrote
On Apr 22, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote:
Cem Karan wrote:
Hi all, I need some help. I'm working on a simple event-based simulator
for my dissertation research. The simulator has state information that I
want to analyze as a post-simulation step, so I currently save
On Apr 22, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote:
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On 04/22/2015 09:30 PM, Cem Karan wrote:
On Apr 22, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote:
On 04/22/2015 09:30 PM, Cem Karan wrote:
On Apr 22, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote:
Another slightly more involved idea
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On Thursday 23 April 2015 11:53, Cem Karan wrote:
Precisely. In order to make my simulations more realistic, I use a lot of
random numbers. I can fake things by keeping the seed to the generator
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I first used marshal in my filebasedMessages module. Then I read that
you should not use it, because it changes per Python version and it
was better to use pickle. So I did that and now I find:
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will execute in
# parallel.
with concurrent.futures.ProcessPoolExecutor() as executor:
for f in base_files:
executor.submit(_convert_and_print, f)
_print_files_in_order(base_files)
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you CAN do with a computer; some things that look like they
should be easy, are actually major research questions. Just keep trying, and
it will get easier over time.
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Den søndag den 31. maj 2015 kl. 16.22.10 UTC+2 skrev Cem Karan:
On May 31, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Anders Johansen sko...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi my name is Anders I am from Denmark, and I am new to programming and
python
be
uniquely named. As a test, I ran the code above, but I killed the loop after
about 10 minutes, at which point about 500,000 files were created. Note that
my laptop is about 6 years old, so you might get better performance on your
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/library/sys.html#sys.path), the first element of
sys.path is the path to the directory of the script itself. If you modify
this, you **will** break third-party code at some point.
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You might want to look into Beautiful Soup
(https://pypi.python.org/pypi/beautifulsoup4), which is an HTML screen-scraping
tool. I've never used it, but I've heard good things about it.
Good luck,
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On Nov 29, 2015, at 7:49 PM, ryguy7272 <ryanshu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I
On Jan 12, 2016, at 11:18 AM, "Sven R. Kunze" <srku...@mail.de> wrote:
> On 12.01.2016 03:48, Cem Karan wrote:
>>
>> Jumping in late, but...
>>
>> If you want something that 'just works', you can use HeapDict:
>>
>> http://st
it in the past, and it works quite well. I haven't tested its
asymptotic performance though, so you might want to check into that.
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ntly, they did wonders for my knee a few years back. With luck,
it'll be more or less outpatient surgery.
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On Jan 13, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Sven R. Kunze <srku...@mail.de> wrote:
> On 13.01.2016 12:20, Cem Karan wrote:
>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 11:18 AM, "Sven R. Kunze" <srku...@mail.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for replying here. I've come across these types of
&g
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> On Feb 8, 2016 7:07 AM, "Cem Karan" <cfkar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I know that there are methods of handling this from the client-side (tuples
> > with unique counters come to
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> On Feb 8, 2016 5:17 PM, "Cem Karan" <cfkar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Feb 7, 2016, at 10:15 PM, srinivas devaki <mr.eightnotei...@gmail.com>
> > wro
On Feb 9, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 09/02/2016 04:25, Cem Karan wrote:
>>
>> No problem, that's what I thought happened. And you're right, I'm looking
>> for a priority queue (not the only reason to use a heap, but a
On Feb 10, 2016, at 1:23 PM, "Sven R. Kunze" <srku...@mail.de> wrote:
> Hi Cem,
>
> On 08.02.2016 02:37, Cem Karan wrote:
>> My apologies for not writing sooner, but work has been quite busy lately
>> (and likely will be for some time to come).
>
On Feb 9, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 09/02/2016 11:44, Cem Karan wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/02/2016 04:25, Cem Karan wrote:
>>>
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>
>
> On Feb 10, 2016 6:11 AM, "Cem Karan" <cfkar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Eh, its not too bad once you figure out how to do it. It's easier in C
> > tho
ce.
The main purpose of these suggestions is to reduce the amount of reading you're
doing. Storage tends to be slow, and any tricks that reduce the number of
bytes you need to read in will be helpful to you.
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tiple
times in a row. The priority is the moment in the future when the object will
be called. As a result, items don't have unique priorities. I know that there
are methods of handling this from the client-side (tuples with unique counters
come to mind), but if your library can handle it direc
for scripts
where you're suddenly surprised by Py2 starting up when you've been using a Py3
interactive interpreter. For me, I'd probably give my students a block of code
that they are asked to copy at the start of their files to test for Py2 or Py3,
and to raise an exception on Py2. After that, I just wouldn't worry about it.
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aded and used a library that came with unit
tests, which all passed. When I started using it, I kept getting odd errors.
Digging into it, I discovered they had commented out the bodies of some of the
unit tests... glad it was open source, at least I *could* dig into the code and
figure out what was going on :/
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ly) lib/site-packages.
>
>
> Hey Terry!
> This needs to get into more public docs than a one-off post on a newsgroup/ML
+1!
This is the first I've heard of this, and it sounds INCREDIBLY useful!
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it.
The main problem with this method is how you're doing the replacements. If
your replacement text can create a new string that matches a different regex
that occurs later on, then you really should use what INADA Naoki suggested.
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On Feb 25, 2017, at 2:08 PM, INADA Naoki
(https://ninja-build.org/)? I personally like it because of how
simple it is, and the fact that it doesn't use leading tabs the way that make
does. It is intended to be the assembler for higher-level build systems which
are more like compilers. I personally use it as a make replacement because it
does what I tell it to do, and nothing else. It may fit what you're after.
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On Aug 31, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31 August 2016 at 13:49, Cem Karan <cfkar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Has anyone else found this to be the case? Is there any "make replacement"
>>> out there that f
Honestly, I'm impressed by how little spam ever makes it onto the list.
Considering the absolute flood of email the lists get, it's impressive work.
Thank you for all the hard work you guys do for all the rest of us!
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On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Tim Golden &l
On Oct 1, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Cem Karan <cfkar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Cool, thank you! Quick experimentation suggests that I don't need to worry
>> about marking anything for garbage col
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> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 11:57:17 PM UTC+1, Cem Karan wrote:
>> Hi all, I've all of a sudden gotten interested in the CPython interpreter,
>> and started trying to understand how it ingests and runs byte
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> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 7:48:09 PM UTC-4, Cem Karan wrote:
>> Cool, thank you! Quick experimentation suggests that I don't need to worry
>> about marking anything for garbage collectio
I kind of got the feeling that was so from reading the docs in the source code.
Too bad! :(
Cem
On Oct 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Cem Karan <cfkar...@gmail.com> writes:
>> how do I create a stream of byte codes that can be inte
, etc.)? Basically, I want
a manual similar to what Intel or AMD might put out for their chips so that all
executables behave nicely with one another.
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my own byte
array with bytes that CPython can directly interpret.
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> Cem Karan <cfkar...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi all, I've all of a sudden gotten interested in the CPython
>
it and
attempt to dispose of it when it goes out of scope?
Ideally, the memory is owned by the side that created it, with the other side
simply referencing it, but I want to be sure before I invest a lot of time
interfacing the two sides together.
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nyone done anything like this before?
>
> I know that experiments have been done.
> Have you tried searching 'Python bdwgc garbage collection' or similar?
I did google around a bit, but the results I found weren't relevant. I was
hoping someone else on the list had tried, and simply ha
(which is part of the python C API) is probably not going to work.
I got interrupted (again) so I didn't have a chance to try the next trick and
register the ctypes objects as roots from which to scan in bdwgc, but I'm
hoping that roots aren't removed. If that works, I'll post it to the list.
Tha
s a really clever idea… I'm not near the machine that I could test it on
right now, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow and see how it works. I'll let
everyone know what I find out.
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at least somewhat useful.
I'd like to see complete signatures in the docstrings, so when I use help() on
something that has *args or **kwargs I can see what the arguments actually are.
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> Cem Karan <cfkar...@gmail.com> writes:
>> Can you give examples of how it's not reliable?
>
> Basically there's a chance of it leaking memory by mistaking a data word
> for a pointe
allocated
from python's garbage collected heap on the C-side. Lot fewer headaches.
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ferent, so my scripts would work as an ordinary user
and then fail as root.
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> On Saturday 27 May 2017 16:34 CEST, Cem Karan wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 27, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Cecil Westerhof <ce...@decebal.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday 27 May 2017 12:33 C
ied it. (Where some problems. Looks like you can not do certain
> things in VirtualBox. But that is for another time.)
> Get the same result. So maybe I should put it on the Debian list.
Yeah, I have no idea what to tell you. Good luck!
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