. tweaking the
Python or JavaScript interpreter, Stackless support, and so on.
Location
The sprint will be held in the apartment of Laura Creighton and Jacob Hallén
which is at Götabergsgatan 22 in Gothenburg, Sweden. Here is a map_. This is
in central Gothenburg. It is between the tram_
More than forty years in the making, the long-anticipated Volume 4
of The Art of Computer Programming is about to make its debuta. in
parts. Rather than waiting for the complete book, Dr. Knuth and
Addison-Wesley are publishing it in installments (fascicles) a la
Charles Dickens.
See
Congratulations!
Laura
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this on europython-improve at python.org ?
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Thank you Travis.
Very pleased to get this from you.
Congratulatoins on the new release,
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Hey, Congratulations!
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on
www.pyweek.org if you think so, as well. But mail me.
John -- assuming we want to meet up _before_ PyConUK -- can that
work? Can you point us at a cheap hostel for a few days?
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In a message of Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:25:29 CDT, Luke Paireepinart writes:
Laura Creighton wrote:
00:00 UTC 2007-09-02 to 00:00 UTC 2007-09-09 exactly. See
www.pyweek.org
PyconUK is happening. http://www.pyconuk.org/ 8th and 9th September.
This means that those of us who generally do not see
Does this mean that if you do not have a google account, and do not
want one, there is no way to join the meeting?
Laura
In a message of Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:34:01 EDT, Douglas Napoleone writes:
I have found that jabber accounts no longer work, but google accounts
do. I had a jabber account,
your conference,
but sometime I would like to have an email.
Thanks very much,
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In a message of Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:23:10 -0600, Skip Montanaro writes:
Thanks for all the ideas. As I'm an Emacs user (since Gosmacs in the
early 80s), I will likely focus my attention there first. While the
xkbmap/Xmodmap path seems like it would also work on Linux, I'm
guessing Apple wouldn't
, because you get the idea
...
Do I need a python3 enabled with readline support, or something?
Thanks very much,
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In a message of Tue, 10 Feb 2015 16:50:54 +0100, Vincent Vande Vyvre writes:
Le 10/02/2015 15:36, Laura Creighton a écrit :
I have the debian version of python3 installed here.
Python 3.4.2 (default, Nov 13 2014, 07:01:52)
[GCC 4.9.2] on linux
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more
Possibly this bug?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/1014640
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I am away on a consulting gig, so I really only have my laptop to test on.
Python 2.7.8 (default, Nov 18 2014, 14:57:17)
debian version jessie/sid
SSL test, with OpenSSL version OpenSSL 1.0.1j 15 Oct 2014.
Connection to verisign.com failed: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED]
certificate verify
, about 45 years too late for the
ideas you are sprouting. I had similar ones about 30 years too late
and, well, they only worked for me for about 3-5 years. Sucks to be
you, friend -- you needed to be your grandfather, I fear.
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I have this problem too.
Debian jessie/sid
Python 2.7.8 (default, Nov 18 2014, 14:57:17)
Python 3.4.2 (default, Nov 13 2014, 07:01:52)
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and ask him more questions, his contact page
is at http://www.dalkescientific.com/contact.html He's very friendly,
as well as being a very good friend of mine.
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In a message of Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:23:50 -0800, Ethan Furman writes:
On 02/18/2015 08:57 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
I went and asked your question to Andrew Dalke, who is an expert
in such things.
Did you happen to ask him about PyMol? Just curious. ;)
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On Feb 19, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Laura Creighton wrote:
Now discussion has moved to
http://www.pymol.org/
Do you know if that will do the job? Or anything else about it?
I do not know. My knowledge of that field is rather dated now. The
best I can find in a quick
I've seen something like this:
The requests module http://docs.python-requests.org/en/latest/
ships with its own set of certificates cacert.pem
and ignores the system wide ones -- so, for instance, adding certificates
to /etc/ssl/certs on your debian or ubuntu system won't work. I edited
it by
I'm using this:
http://michel.staelens.pagesperso-orange.fr/clavier/index_GB.htm#
to get cyrillic. Not sure the other alternatives will get you what
you want -- my keyboard is rather well loaded with accented letters
from the get-go.
Laura
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In a message of Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:29:00 -0600, Tim Chase writes:
While it's not exactly a hold-down-get-a-menu, I opt for changing my
(otherwise-useless) caps-lock key to an X compose key:
$ setxkbmap -option compose:caps
I can then hit caps-lock followed by what are generally intuitive
In a message of Wed, 11 Feb 2015 01:06:00 +0100, Laura Creighton writes:
In a message of Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:38:02 -0800, vlyamt...@gmail.com writes:
I defined function Fatalln in mydef.py and it works fine if i call it from
mydef.py, but when i try to call it from test.py in the same folder
In a message of Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:38:02 -0800, vlyamt...@gmail.com writes:
I defined function Fatalln in mydef.py and it works fine if i call it from
mydef.py, but when i try to call it from test.py in the same folder:
import mydef
...
Fatalln my test
i have NameError: name 'Fatalln' is not
somebody, I got confused with the indent level wrote:
They force the use of the much slower cycle-detecting GC, rather than
the quick and efficient CPython refcounter.
Somebody has misunderstood something here. When it comes to efficient
garbage collectors, refcounting is a turtle. The
In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:45:03 +, Dave Farrance writes:
Maybe there's not enough people like me that have really felt the need for
the speed. Or maybe it's simply the accident of the historical
development path that's set-in-stone an interpreter rather than a JIT.
Anybody got a
In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 07:16:14 -0500, Cem Karan writes:
This was PRECISELY the situation I was thinking about. My hope was
to make the callback mechanism slightly less surprising by allowing
the user to track them, releasing them when they aren't needed
without having to figure out
Arrgh! I forgot to warn you that you need a very recent version of
virtualenv to work with PyPy. I am very sorry about that. Glad to
see that things are working now.
Laura
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Dave Angel
are you another Native English speaker living in a world where ASCII
is enough?
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In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 09:53:33 -0800, LJ writes:
Hi everyone. Quick question here. Lets suppose if have the following numpy
array:
b=np.array([[0]*2]*3)
and then:
id(b[0])
4582
id(b[1])
45857512
id(b[2])
4582
Please correct me if I am wrong, but according to this b[2]
In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 15:36:42 +, Dave Farrance writes:
Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
I don't understand 'an interpreter rather than a JIT'. PyPy has a
JIT, that sort of is the whole point.
Yes. I meant that from my end-user, non-software-engineer perspective, it
looked
give me a
solid background to work around the problem.
Regards,
Subhabrata.
You may find the API docs surrounding rdelbru.github.io/SIREn/
of interest then.
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In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:02:29 -0800, Paul Rubin writes:
Laura Creighton l...@openend.se writes:
Because one thing we do know is that people who are completely and
utterly ignorant about whether having multiple cores will improve
their code still want to use a language that lets them
Good news -- it seems to be working fine with PyPy.
https://travis-ci.org/hugovk/Pillow/builds
for me, not extensively tested, it just seems to be working.
I have several pypy's floating around here, each within its own
virtualenv. If you aren't familiar with virtualenv, read all
about it
In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:14:45 -0800, Paul Rubin writes:
Laura Creighton l...@openend.se writes:
The GIL isn't going away from PyPy any time real soon, alas.
I thought the GIL's main purpose was to avoid having to lock all the
CPython refcount updates, so if PyPy has tracing GC, why
In a message of Sun, 22 Feb 2015 17:09:01 -0500, Cem Karan writes:
Documentation is a given; it MUST be there. That said, documenting
something, but still making it surprising, is a bad idea. For
example, several people have been strongly against using a WeakSet to
hold callbacks because they
Ooops, I missed the numpy, so I thought that it was the contents
of the array that was causing the problem. My very bad. Apologies.
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In a message of Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:55:41 +0100, Laura Creighton writes:
In a message of Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:25:24 -0500, Dave Angel writes:
But utf-8 does not seem to be the right encoding for that bytestring.
So you'll need a form like:
mystring = rec.decode(encoding='xxx')
for some value
In a message of Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:18:38 +, David Aldrich writes:
BUT do *not* run `make install` as that will overwrite your system
Python and Bad Things will happen. Instead, run `make altinstall`.
Thanks for all the warnings. We did use `make altinstall`, so all is ok.
Recompiling,
In a message of Wed, 25 Feb 2015 02:03:16 +1100, Chris Angelico writes:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
In a message of Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:25:24 -0500, Dave Angel writes:
But utf-8 does not seem to be the right encoding for that bytestring.
So you'll need
Laura Creighton added the comment:
Antione closed this, as a not python error, as
if you do not pass a valid certificate to openssl s_client
it will not read the system certificates, which is clearly
utterly surprising and nuts.
The problem, as I see it, is that fixing this clear
absurdity may
Laura Creighton added the comment:
In https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/1014640
it says :
FIX:
Fixed in Ubuntu 14.04 apparently.
Openssl upstream, see http://rt.openssl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=2732
But I think the person who wrote that launchpad note was mistaken
It is for discussing voting software (currently Helios and Evote)
with the end result that the new PSF election Commissioner Ian
Cordasco will pick one and use it for the next PSF eÃlection.
We're hoping to turn it into a real PSF workgroup. It looks like
it is going to be a fairly nerdy place.
Tkinter runs on raspberry pi.
Get it installed, and then run this program.
from Tkinter import *
root = Tk()
prompt = 'Press any key. Remember to keep your mouse in the cyan box. '
lab = Label(root, text=prompt, width=len(prompt), bg='cyan')
lab.pack()
def key(event):
msg = 'event.char is
In a message of Mon, 01 Jun 2015 19:14:18 -0700, fl writes:
Hi,
I read the online help about string. It lists string constants, string
formatting, template strings and string functions. After reading these,
I am still puzzled about how to use the string module.
Could you show me a few example
In a message of Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:15:20 -0700, stephenpprane...@gmail.com wri
tes:
hey, i really need help, im a straight up beginner in scripting and i need to
figure out how to make an inverted particle emitter using python in maya
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I needed to do something like this once. What I needed was a way to
send a process a signal, and have it then spit out a huge amount
of stats about how long it had been running, how many page faults
it had suffered, and, goodness, I forget all the information that
was needed. Lots. So I just
Better C random number generator.
http://www.pcg-random.org/download.html
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Definitely 3.3 and 3.4. I asked, got back '3.3 through the latest' so
maybe 3.5 was not the latest where he was ...
I will go ask again for 3.5 in particular.
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In a message of Sun, 07 Jun 2015 12:27:05 +0200, Peter Otten writes:
There is no gain to get in standard Python? By switching from fnmatch
to re I got almost a speed gain of two. So I was wondering if I could
do more.
Just wait for Python 3.5. The switch from os.listdir() to the (new)
In a message of Sun, 07 Jun 2015 11:16:30 +0100, Mark Lawrence writes:
I suggest that you stop asking so many question here. Get your cheque
book and go for paid support.
Knock this off, please. Some of us dearly like to teach
people who want to explore and learn things.
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In a message of Sat, 06 Jun 2015 18:28:29 +, John McKenzie writes:
Laura and Gary, thank you for your replies. I have three physical
buttons connected to a Kade device emulating a keyboard. These buttons
control an LED light strip. So there is no screen, so a GUI did not cross
my mind. I
The !find version is C code optimised to do one thing, find files in
your directory structure, which happens to be what you want to do.
General regular expression matching is harder.
Carl Friedrich Bolz investigated regular expression algorithms and their
implementation to see if this is the sort
In a message of Fri, 05 Jun 2015 11:15:31 +0200, Christian Gollwitzer writes:
Am 05.06.15 um 11:03 schrieb Alexis Dubois:
Anyone else for an idea on that?
Well, it is a crash on exit. Looks like a memory error inside of PyQT.
If you've got the time, you could run it inside of a debugger, or
In a message of Sat, 06 Jun 2015 15:42:27 -0700, Albert-Jan Roskam via Python-l
ist writes:
quot;To run any command at the system shell, simply prefix it with !quot;
See: https://ipython.org/ipython-doc/dev/interactive/tutorial.html
Please don't top post.
2. He knows this. He's doing this for
In a message of Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:46:54 +0200, ast writes:
Laura Creighton l...@openend.se a écrit dans le message de
news:mailman.64.1433255400.13271.python-l...@python.org...
You may be looking for dictionary dispatching.
You can translate the key into a callable.
def do_ping(self, arg
In a message of Wed, 03 Jun 2015 15:17:16 +0530, Amit Goutham writes:
Hi All,
I am trying to search on the Internet if i can call a Python Script from an
SQL Procedure.
All the information found on Internet is about connecting to a database
from Python through a Python script.But, i want the other
Are you looking for Knuth's paper Structured Programming with Goto Statements?
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StructuredProgrammingWithGoToStatements
I don't remember a theorem in there, but I haven't read it for decades,
so ...
Laura
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In a message of Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:08:25 -0400, Neal Becker writes:
One of the most annoying problems with py2/3 interoperability is that the
pickle formats are not compatible. There must be many who, like myself,
often use pickle format for data storage.
It certainly would be a big help if
In a message of Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:28:24 -0500, Skip Montanaro writes:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Tim Chase
python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
Is this a bug?
Looks like it's been reported a few times with slightly different context:
https://bugs.python.org/issue6537
In a message of Thu, 04 Jun 2015 06:36:29 -0700, Palpandi writes:
Hi All,
This is the case. To split string2 from string1_string2 I am using
re.split('_', string1_string2, 1)
And you shouldn't be. The 3rd argument, 1 says stop after one match.
It is working fine for string string1_string2 and
In a message of Thu, 04 Jun 2015 00:04:04 +0100, BartC writes:
Mainly the language itself. But I've also been looking at the workings
of CPython. (Also PyPy but obviously I'm not going to get anywhere
there, although RPython sounds intriguing.)
Why not? We built the thing for people like you
In a message of Wed, 03 Jun 2015 20:59:04 +0200, Laura Creighton writes:
Tkinter runs on raspberry pi.
Get it installed, and then run this program.
from Tkinter import *
root = Tk()
prompt = 'Press any key. Remember to keep your mouse in the cyan box. '
lab = Label(root, text=prompt, width=len
No promises -- I never used this myself, but it looks like:
https://github.com/killuahzl/pyaria2
parses pyaria files for its own purposes, so you could steal code from there.
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New submission from Laura Creighton:
Another report from webmaster. (I still don't have a windows machine).
Somebody tried to install 3.3, 3.4 or 3.5 and got this error. I asked
them to try the Activestate installer. That worked. Thus Activestate
knows to include something that users
In a message of Sun, 07 Jun 2015 08:20:46 +0200, Cecil Westerhof writes:
You may get faster results if you use Matthew Barnett's replacement
for re here: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/regex
You will get faster results if you build your IPython shell to use
PyPy, but I would still be very
In a message of Sun, 07 Jun 2015 01:56:47 -0700, doc.mefi...@gmail.com writes:
And I can't use Cython, because I have C++ module, and I have to use it.
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Are you using Boost?
http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_58_0/libs/python/doc/
It handles
In a message of Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:42:21 -, Devaki Chokshi (dchokshi) wr
ites:
Hello,
I have a use case where a SIP voice call will be passing through an MGCP
gateway.
Is there a python implementation that simulates MGCP gateway/server?
Thank you
Devaki Chokshi
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In a message of Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:21:03 +0200, Cecil Westerhof writes:
On Sunday 21 Jun 2015 11:05 CEST, Laura Creighton wrote:
Do you have Jython 2.7 released a few weeks ago?
Yes, but I was dumb enough to start the old version when I did this.
:-(
There is still one problem
In a message of Sun, 21 Jun 2015 10:29:32 +0100, BartC writes:
It also puts in a good dig at PyPy by including one benchmark where it
is 6 times as slow as CPython!
It's not clear why it's particularly useful for astrophysics.
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It's not that good a dig, as they say that it took less
In a message of Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:32:46 -0700, C.D. Reimer writes:
Do I need to release my scripts under a license? If so, which one?
You should, because if you don't you could pop up some day and
assert copyright and sue the hell out of people who use your code,
which means that many people
In a message of Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:58:33 +0200, Cecil Westerhof writes:
I installed Jython in openSUSE 13.2. But when calling jython I get:
/usr/bin/build-classpath: error: JAVA_LIBDIR must be set
Error: Could not find or load main class org.python.util.jython
Does anyone have an idea
In a message of Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:23:54 -0600, Michael Torrie writes:
From some brief research, it appears there is some question about the
ability to declare something to be in the public domain, but it is by no
means a sure thing and lots of people feel it's just fine to declare
something to
In a message of Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:58:09 +0100, Mark Lawrence writes:
On 24/06/2015 16:56, Knss Teja via Python-list wrote:
I WANT TO install 4.3 version ... but the MSI file is giving a DLL error
.. what should I do :/
please use REPLY ALL .. so that I get the mail to my gmail inbox
I'll
I think that your problem is that you have Protected Mode enabled.
If you do, you either have to disable that, or write a policy config
file.
https://www.adobe.com/devnet-docs/acrobatetk/tools/AppSec/protectedmode.html
says.
From: Policy configuration
Protected mode prevents a number of actions
I use len(list(self.path.iterdir()))
You get an extra list created in there. Do you care?
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Johannes, if you don't know Yes, Minister then you most likely do
not know the Politician's Syllogism (which now has its own wikipedia
page :) And I _didn't_ do it! Honest!)
Something must be done.
This is something.
Therefore we must do it!
:)
Unfortunatetely, the Politician's Syllogism is
In a message of Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:23:07 +0300, Jussi Piitulainen writes:
Laura Creighton writes:
Johannes, if you don't know Yes, Minister then you most likely do
not know the Politician's Syllogism (which now has its own wikipedia
page :) And I _didn't_ do it! Honest!)
Something must
In a message of Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:16:47 +1000, Chris Angelico writes:
Okay, Johannes, NOW you're proving that you don't have a clue what
you're talking about. D-K effect doesn't go away...
ChrisA
You need to read the paper again. That was the whole point -- when
Kruger and Dunning went and
In a message of Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:24:56 -0700, Naftali writes:
It actually doesn't fail but it 'cannot open in protected mode' (see here
http://blogs.adobe.com/dmcmahon/2012/07/27/adobe-reader-cannot-open-protected-mode-due-to-a-problem-with-your-system-configuration/)
I am using
Ah, turns out there was an entry. I updated it.
Laura
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In a message of Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:04:46 +1000, Ben Finney writes:
Since the introduction of keyword-only arguments in Python functions,
the question arises of how to communicate this in documentation.
I suppose it is way too late to scream I hate keyword-only arguments!
The lone asterisk
I got to this party late.
One way to get the malformed upload message is is you gzip something
that already is gzipped, and send that up the pipe.
worth checking.
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yes. wifi https://wifi.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
see this answer, not raspberry pi specific
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20470626/python-script-for-raspberrypi-to-connect-wifi-automatically
but is linux specific, what OS do you need?
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http://www.stackless.com/mailman/listinfo/stackless
I think I know the answer, from my work in duplicating stackless
for greenlets in pypy. But that's the answer in theory. In
practice, you need real stackless users.
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In a message of Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:50:28 +0100, Mark Lawrence writes:
Throw in http://clonedigger.sourceforge.net/ as well and you've a really
awesome combination.
Mark Lawrence
I didn't know about that one.
Hey thank you, Mark. Looks great.
It needs its own entry in
In a message of Sun, 21 Jun 2015 09:53:23 +0200, Cecil Westerhof writes:
On openSUSE there is a very old version of Jython installed (2.2.1),
so I installed the latest version (2.7.0). But when starting this I
get:
*sys-package-mgr*: can't write cache file for
Do you have Jython 2.7 released a few weeks ago?
Laura
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In a message of Sat, 20 Jun 2015 19:50:21 -0700, Rustom Mody writes:
Here is Eric Snow:
| Keep in mind that by immutability I'm talking about *really*
| immutable, perhaps going so far as treating the full memory space
| associated with an object as frozen. For instance, we'd have to
| ensure
In a message of Sun, 21 Jun 2015 10:12:06 +0200, Cecil Westerhof writes:
I installed Jython and will start playing with it. There probably will
be differences between Python and Jython. Is there a way to determine
if a script is run by Python or Jython? Then different execution paths
could be
In a message of Sun, 21 Jun 2015 10:14:15 +0200, Cecil Westerhof writes:
I have no experience yet with Jython or Android development. But I was
wondering: would it be possible to write applications for Android with
Jython? You normally use Java for it, but I think I would like Jython
more. :-D
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In a message of Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:50:54 -0700, c me writes:
I installed 2.7.9 on a Win8.1 machine. The Coursera instructor did a simple
install then executed Python from a file in which he'd put a simple hello
world script. My similar documents folder cannot see the python executable.
How
In a message of Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:38:59 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa writes:
Divide the number by 7 and you have your answer.
I am not sure that is what he wants -- If he gives us a start of Tuesday the
9th of June 2015 (yesterday) and an end of Thursday the 25th of June, that's
16 days. But there
I don't know anything about this program, and in particular how
complete it is, but worth a look
https://github.com/benjaminmgross/clean-fin-data
Laura
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In a message of Mon, 15 Jun 2015 04:42:09 -0700, subhabrata.bane...@gmail.com w
rites:
Dear Group,
I am trying to learn how to create .exe file for Python. I tried to work
around
http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/Tutorial of Py2exe. The sample program went
nice.
But if I try to make exe for
In a message of Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:56:12 -0700, subhabrata.bane...@gmail.com w
rites:
ii) In a class how may I include if __name__ == __main__: with multiple
methods? But I think this is easy question there should be lot of web help.
If anyone may kindly suggest.
Regards,
Subhabrata Banerjee.
In a message of Mon, 15 Jun 2015 06:42:48 -0700, subhabrata.bane...@gmail.com w
I wrote a script as NLQ3. py
the code is written as,
import nltk
import itertools
def nlq3(n):
inp=raw_input(Print Your Query:)
tag=nltk.pos_tag(nltk.wordpunct_tokenize(inp))
print The Tagged Value
In a message of 14 Jun 2015 02:53:15 +, Steven D'Aprano writes:
Well, yes, but since IDLE already contains that script, why not just use
IDLE?
I don't know any way to tell Idle to run in the background, generate this
result, and hand it to me as a list, or a csv or whatever. Have
I been
In a message of 14 Jun 2015 01:59:10 +, Steven D'Aprano writes:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 14:09:48 -0700, C.D. Reimer wrote:
On 6/13/2015 1:59 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
Idle is written in pure python. Steal from:
https://hg.python.org/cpython/file/74d182cf0187/Lib/idlelib/
GrepDialog.py
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