> > Thanks,
> > Duane (duanek (at) chorus (dot) net)
>
Good luck! :)
Mark
> I just went on a brief fishing expedition through two disk backups,
> and no luck. I guess it's been a while since I worked on this.
>
> The work I did was entirely graphical, which is
On 16 July, 08:12, Jack Diederich wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Mark Summerfield wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I'm just wondering why <, <=, >=, and > are not supported by
> > collections.OrderedDict:
>
> > >>> d1 = collections.Ord
On 16 July, 10:21, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
> >>>>> Mark (M) wrote:
> >M> You are right that it doesn't make sense to compare two dicts.
> >M> But OrderedDicts can be viewed logically as lists of (key,value)
> >M> tuples so they are mu
On 16 July, 08:51, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:30:26 -0700, Chris Rebert wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Mark Summerfield
> > wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I'm just wondering why <, <=, >=, and > are not s
On 16 July, 11:58, Mark wrote:
> On 16 July, 08:51, Steven D'Aprano
>
>
>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:30:26 -0700, Chris Rebert wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Mark Summerfield
> > > wrote:
> > >> Hi,
>
> >
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:45:17 +0100, Goke Aruna wrote:
> A lot check this fantastic open source application,
> http://www.openerp.com, all done is python.
That does look impressive. Is that Django or Turbogears?
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On Aug 29, 8:20 am, Pherdnut wrote:
> I want to write cross-platform stuff. Any opinions on the best GUI
> module for that?
The "big three" cross-platform ones are PyQt4, wxPython, and PyGtk.
I prefer PyQt4, but I'm biased as you'll see.
> I like a good juicy, but concise book for reading on my
On Sep 9, 2:33 pm, David Boddie wrote:
> On Wed Sep 9 07:11:26 CEST 2009, Steven Woody wrote:
>
> > *I've searched google and cannot find a valid link for the source code of
> > the book "Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt". Could anyone please
> > give me a non-broken URL?*
>
> See this pag
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 11:26:50 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 04:41 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 4/1/2017 12:00 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
example of the Ugly American.
As an American I resent your promotion and perpetuation of an ugly
ethno-centric stereotype.
I'm
ad...@python.org wrote:
> Irv Kalb:
> > I teach Python at two colleges in Silicon Valley.
>
>
> and I don't give a fuck about that.
Wow, some of you folks are so civilized.
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exercising their fingers by reaching for the shift key in conjunction
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http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Unable-to-install-PyWin32-with-Python-2.6.2-p25202902.html
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On 07/05/2013 01:17, alex23 wrote:
On May 6, 10:37 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
One of these days I'll work out why some people insist on using
superfluous parentheses in Python code. Could it be that they enjoy
exercising their fingers by reaching for the shift key in conjunction
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, these go to C:\Python27 and C:\Python33 with windows.
Colin W.
In which case you'll normally be doing a binary installation. If you're
compiling it's more likely to be VC++ not gcc.
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I thought some of you might find this interesting http://libcello.org/
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On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Mark Janssen
wrote:
>> Mark, this proposal is out of place on a Python list, because it proposes an
>> object methodology radically different from any that is implemented in
>> Python now, or is even remotely likely to be implemented in Pytho
> I'm looking for some help in finding a term, it's not Python-specific but
> does apply to some Python code.
>
> This is an anti-pattern to avoid. The idea is that creating a resource
> ought to be the same as "turning it on", or enabling it, or similar. For
> example, we don't do this in Python:
>> This is an anti-pattern to avoid. The idea is that creating a resource
>> ought to be the same as "turning it on", or enabling it, or similar. For
>> example, we don't do this in Python:
>
> I would call it "user-mediated resource allocation" as distinct from
> "object-mediated" resource allocat
> "Lisp will remain the pinnacle of lambda calculus" ??? : Surreal
> feeling of falling into a 25-year time-warp
>
> Read this http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/dat/miranda/wadler87.pdf
>
> Just for historical context:
> When this was written in the 80s:
> - The FP languages of the time -- KRC
>> These models of computation should not use the same language. Their
>> computation models are too radically different.
>
> Their computation models are exactly equivalent.
No they are not. While one can find levels of indirection to
translate between one and the other, that doesn't mean they
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Mark Janssen
> wrote:
>> Okay, to anyone who might be listening, I found the core of the problem.
>
> What "problem" are you referring to? You've been posting on this
> topi
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:58 PM, alex23 wrote:
> On 10 May, 07:51, Mark Janssen wrote:
>> You see Ian, while you and the other millions of coding practitioners
>> have (mal)adapted to a suboptimal coding environment where "hey
>> there's a language for everyon
> I think where things went pear shaped is when you made the statement:
>
>>> There is no sensible use-case for creating a file OBJECT unless it
>>> initially wraps an open file pointer.
>
> That's a pretty absolute point of view. Life is rarely so absolute.
In the old days, it was useful to have
calling enable(). Remember, on multi-user and/or
multi-processing systems, there could be contention for a slow
resource. If you automatically open a file for write, you're
preventing everyone else from writing and potentially reading it. So
there is something useful: did that file exist?
criptor. (Yes, the
> in-program number is just a number either way.)
Steven, don't be misled. POSIX is not the model to look to -- it does
not acknowledge that files are actual objects that reside on a piece
of hardware. It is not simply an integer.
Mark
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>> In the old days, it was useful to have fine-grained control over the
>> file object because you didn't know where it might fail, and the OS
>> didn't necessarily give you give good status codes. So being able to
>> step through the entire process was the job of the progammers.
>
> I don't know
> ...The field needs re-invented and re-centered.[...]
For anyone who want to be involved. See the wikiwikiweb -- a tool
that every programmer should know and use -- and these pages:
ComputerScienceVersionTwo and ObjectOrientedRefactored.
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> Steven, don't be misled. POSIX is not the model to look to -- it does
> not acknowledge that files are actual objects that reside on a piece
> of hardware. It is not simply an integer.
Please disregard this (my own) flame bait.
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I wouldn't mind betting that other languages
can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly
even the Germans die laughing?
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On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote:
>[...] the starting question I make to myself about Python is: which is the
>single
> and most basic use of Python as the entity it is? I mean, beside
> programming, what's the single and most basic result one can expect from
> "interacting" wi
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> I've never understood why people use that site: the pages end up being
> unintelligible cocktail-party noise-scapes with no hope of understanding who
> is saying what, or in response to whom.
You're very right. But that is what has made i
That's the title of this little beast
http://www.acooke.org/cute/Pythonssad0.html if anybody's interested.
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comfortable with.
Practicality beats purity
I much prefer the alternative <> for != but some silly people insisted
that this be removed from Python3. Just how stupid can you get?
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On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote:
>I'm making my way to Python (and
> OOP in general) from a philosophical perspective or point of view and try to
> set the more global definition of Python's core as an "entity". In order to
> do that, and following Wittgenstein's indication abo
> Sounds a lot like reddit threads.
It's similar, but it goes a lot further. Where every other site
without centralized editors, the thread mess on a simple flat page
doesn't scale after about a 100 interactions. To sort out the mess,
it takes another dimension. The project I'm working on uses
On 17/05/2013 01:00, visphatesj...@gmail.com wrote:
fuck straight off
I assume you're the author of "How to win friends and influence people"?
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fetch data from stdin.
I look forward to reviewing your code.
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tor has lost favor to the string
object's format method.
Please stop perpetuating this myth, see
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-February/116789.html
and http://bugs.python.org/issue14123
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y thinking about definite inefficiency. What evidence do you have
to support this claim?
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I always liked the daily Python-URL from Dr. Dobbs.
Summaries of salient discussions on python-dev, ideas, list.
interviews with devs on philosophies.
quote of the week
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On 5/24/13, DRJ Reddy wrote:
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Lies, damn lies and statistics? :)
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technology. So I
would be able to talk to the file server across the street, but only
IF its admin lets me.
ChrisA
By such means as leaving the top level admin password set to the factory
default? :)
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ost a link to that toll plz?
You have its name. You have Google. You have a mailing list that is
getting tired of you not putting in any effort.
ChrisA
Not to mention double spaced google crap :(
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mature end of script
headers: koukos.py
what is that suexec?
What has this got to do with Python?
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decks)
;)
Wrong if you're using Python 3 :(
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No wonder the Greek economy is so screwed up.
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On 26/05/2013 20:10, Daniel Gagliardi wrote:
I want to know how to implement concurrent threads in Python
google, bing, duckduckgo, yahoo...
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On 26/05/2013 23:32, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 26/05/2013 22:26, Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote:
No thi is not a mysql issue becaus ei have this line above for storing and
retrieval form database.
con = pymysql.connect( db = 'metrites
3, you
should be able to use a Unix-style shebang to indicate which Python
you want to invoke.
ChrisA
See this
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This should make life easier for us
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minutes. Keep doubling the time like this
and you'll soon be up to the 24 hours that's considered polite. As
previously stated the time can be shortened substantially by getting
your cheque book out.
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On 27/05/2013 15:16, Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote:
I cant solve this plz help!
Sure, all you need do is get your cheque book out. Also have you ever
heard the expression "patience is a virtue"?
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Do that and report back on what happened
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maybe it is correct but it wont run, perhaps somethign with linux?
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On 30/05/2013 15:03, Eternaltheft wrote:
do you think ti would be better if i call drawBoard?
How would I know if you don't quote any context?
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Τη Κυριακή, 2 Ιουνίου 2013 5:51:31 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
You've obviously arrived very late at the party.
Apart from the "funny" commenting, can you for once contribute towards to an
actual solution or this
ffort in first, show some patience, or *PAY* for
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Which one should i keep and why?
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> Whatever benefit there is in declaring the type of a function is lost due
> to the inability to duck-type or program to an interface. There's no type
> that says "any object with a 'next' method", for example. And having to
> declare local variables is a PITA with little benefit.
>
> Give me a la
>> Python has seduced us all into lazy typing. That's what it is.
>
> Bulshytt. If you have no idea what polymorphism is, you shouldn't even
> be participating in this conversation.
I am aware of what it means, but Python doesn't really have it
(although it may evolve to it with annotations). Bu
>> I am aware of what it means, but Python doesn't really have it (although
>> it may evolve to it with annotations).
>
> No polymorphism huh?
>
>
> py> len([1, 2, 3]) # len works on lists
> 3
> py> len((1, 2)) # and on tuples
> 2
> py> len({}) # and on dicts
> 0
> py> len('I pity the fool') #
> Fairly definitive terms have existed since 1985:
> http://lucacardelli.name/Papers/OnUnderstanding.A4.pdf
>>
>> You are making an "outside view of a function" (until a better term is
>> found). So that give you one possible view of polymorphism. However,
>> *within* a class that I would write,
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> On Jun 7, 11:44 am, Mark Janssen wrote:
>> > Bulshytt. If you have no idea what polymorphism is, you shouldn't even
>> > be participating in this conversation.
>>
>> I am aware of what it means, but Python doesn't really hav
st re-share accordingly, then you should,
otherwise there's very little case that could be brought about if the
code was put into a published, "open-source" project, whatever the
license.
mark
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Malte Forkel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have written a s
> The Secret Labs license is very explicit: "All rights reserved". That line
> means you can't touch it under pain of lawsuit.
That's not true. It means whatever rights they do have, they are
stating, in effect, that they have not given them away. But this is a
difficult legal point, because by
> At least partially, my confusion seems to be caused by the dichotomy of
> the concepts of copyright and license. How do these relate to each other?
A license emerges out of the commercial domain is purely about
commercial protections. A copyright comes from the "academic" domain
is pure about
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 06/09/2013 11:18 AM, Mark Janssen wrote:
>> You actually do not. Attaching a legal document is purely a secondary
>> protection from those who would take away right already granted by US
>> copyright.
>
> Y
>> That's not entirely correct. If he *publishes* his code (I'm using
>> this term "publish" technically to mean "put forth in a way where
>> anyone of the general public can or is encouraged to view"), then he
>> is *tacitly* giving up protections that secrecy (or *not* disclosing
>> it) would *a
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