Re: Examples of Python driven Microsoft UI Automation wanted

2009-07-10 Thread Mark
> > Thanks, > > Duane (duanek (at) chorus (dot) net) > Good luck! :) Mark > I just went on a brief fishing expedition through two disk backups, > and no luck.  I guess it's been a while since I worked on this. > > The work I did was entirely graphical, which is

Re: Why aren't OrderedDicts comparable with < etc?

2009-07-16 Thread Mark
On 16 July, 08:12, Jack Diederich wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Mark Summerfield wrote: > > Hi, > > > I'm just wondering why <, <=, >=, and > are not supported by > > collections.OrderedDict: > > >    >>> d1 = collections.Ord

Re: Why aren't OrderedDicts comparable with < etc?

2009-07-16 Thread Mark
On 16 July, 10:21, Piet van Oostrum wrote: > >>>>> Mark (M) wrote: > >M> You are right that it doesn't make sense to compare two dicts. > >M> But OrderedDicts can be viewed logically as lists of (key,value) > >M> tuples so they are mu

Re: Why aren't OrderedDicts comparable with < etc?

2009-07-16 Thread Mark
On 16 July, 08:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:30:26 -0700, Chris Rebert wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Mark Summerfield > > wrote: > >> Hi, > > >> I'm just wondering why <, <=, >=, and > are not s

Re: Why aren't OrderedDicts comparable with < etc?

2009-07-16 Thread Mark
On 16 July, 11:58, Mark wrote: > On 16 July, 08:51, Steven D'Aprano > > > > wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:30:26 -0700, Chris Rebert wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Mark Summerfield > > > wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >

Re: can python make web applications?

2009-08-25 Thread Mark
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:45:17 +0100, Goke Aruna wrote: > A lot check this fantastic open source application, > http://www.openerp.com, all done is python. That does look impressive. Is that Django or Turbogears? -- Mark -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Noob - gui module, book, annoying questions

2009-09-01 Thread Mark
On Aug 29, 8:20 am, Pherdnut wrote: > I want to write cross-platform stuff. Any opinions on the best GUI > module for that? The "big three" cross-platform ones are PyQt4, wxPython, and PyGtk. I prefer PyQt4, but I'm biased as you'll see. > I like a good juicy, but concise book for reading on my

Re: "Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt" source code

2009-09-09 Thread Mark
On Sep 9, 2:33 pm, David Boddie wrote: > On Wed Sep 9 07:11:26 CEST 2009, Steven Woody wrote: > > > *I've searched google and cannot find a valid link for the source code of > > the book "Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt". Could anyone please > > give me a non-broken URL?* > > See this pag

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-03 Thread Mark -
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 11:26:50 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 04:41 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: On 4/1/2017 12:00 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: example of the Ugly American. As an American I resent your promotion and perpetuation of an ugly ethno-centric stereotype. I'm

Re: Teaching

2017-07-02 Thread Mark-
ad...@python.org wrote: > Irv Kalb: > > I teach Python at two colleges in Silicon Valley. > > > and I don't give a fuck about that. Wow, some of you folks are so civilized. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: First python program, syntax error in while loop

2013-05-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
ld it be that they enjoy exercising their fingers by reaching for the shift key in conjunction with the 9 or 0 key? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: module install failures

2013-05-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
ully this helps http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Unable-to-install-PyWin32-with-Python-2.6.2-p25202902.html -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: First python program, syntax error in while loop

2013-05-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 07/05/2013 01:17, alex23 wrote: On May 6, 10:37 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote: One of these days I'll work out why some people insist on using superfluous parentheses in Python code. Could it be that they enjoy exercising their fingers by reaching for the shift key in conjunction with the 9

Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers

2013-05-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
ap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: multiple versions of python

2013-05-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
, these go to C:\Python27 and C:\Python33 with windows. Colin W. In which case you'll normally be doing a binary installation. If you're compiling it's more likely to be VC++ not gcc. -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPyt

cello library

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
Hi folks, I thought some of you might find this interesting http://libcello.org/ -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Janssen
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: >> Mark, this proposal is out of place on a Python list, because it proposes an >> object methodology radically different from any that is implemented in >> Python now, or is even remotely likely to be implemented in Pytho

Re: object.enable() anti-pattern

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Janssen
> I'm looking for some help in finding a term, it's not Python-specific but > does apply to some Python code. > > This is an anti-pattern to avoid. The idea is that creating a resource > ought to be the same as "turning it on", or enabling it, or similar. For > example, we don't do this in Python:

Re: object.enable() anti-pattern

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Janssen
>> This is an anti-pattern to avoid. The idea is that creating a resource >> ought to be the same as "turning it on", or enabling it, or similar. For >> example, we don't do this in Python: > > I would call it "user-mediated resource allocation" as distinct from > "object-mediated" resource allocat

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Janssen
> "Lisp will remain the pinnacle of lambda calculus" ??? : Surreal > feeling of falling into a 25-year time-warp > > Read this http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/dat/miranda/wadler87.pdf > > Just for historical context: > When this was written in the 80s: > - The FP languages of the time -- KRC

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Janssen
>> These models of computation should not use the same language. Their >> computation models are too radically different. > > Their computation models are exactly equivalent. No they are not. While one can find levels of indirection to translate between one and the other, that doesn't mean they

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Janssen
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Mark Janssen > wrote: >> Okay, to anyone who might be listening, I found the core of the problem. > > What "problem" are you referring to? You've been posting on this > topi

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Janssen
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:58 PM, alex23 wrote: > On 10 May, 07:51, Mark Janssen wrote: >> You see Ian, while you and the other millions of coding practitioners >> have (mal)adapted to a suboptimal coding environment where "hey >> there's a language for everyon

Re: object.enable() anti-pattern

2013-05-09 Thread Mark Janssen
> I think where things went pear shaped is when you made the statement: > >>> There is no sensible use-case for creating a file OBJECT unless it >>> initially wraps an open file pointer. > > That's a pretty absolute point of view. Life is rarely so absolute. In the old days, it was useful to have

Re: object.enable() anti-pattern

2013-05-10 Thread Mark Janssen
calling enable(). Remember, on multi-user and/or multi-processing systems, there could be contention for a slow resource. If you automatically open a file for write, you're preventing everyone else from writing and potentially reading it. So there is something useful: did that file exist?

Re: object.enable() anti-pattern

2013-05-10 Thread Mark Janssen
criptor. (Yes, the > in-program number is just a number either way.) Steven, don't be misled. POSIX is not the model to look to -- it does not acknowledge that files are actual objects that reside on a piece of hardware. It is not simply an integer. Mark -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: object.enable() anti-pattern

2013-05-11 Thread Mark Janssen
>> In the old days, it was useful to have fine-grained control over the >> file object because you didn't know where it might fail, and the OS >> didn't necessarily give you give good status codes. So being able to >> step through the entire process was the job of the progammers. > > I don't know

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-11 Thread Mark Janssen
> ...The field needs re-invented and re-centered.[...] For anyone who want to be involved. See the wikiwikiweb -- a tool that every programmer should know and use -- and these pages: ComputerScienceVersionTwo and ObjectOrientedRefactored. Cheers! -- MarkJ Tacoma, Washington -- http://mail.pyt

Re: object.enable() anti-pattern

2013-05-11 Thread Mark Janssen
> Steven, don't be misled. POSIX is not the model to look to -- it does > not acknowledge that files are actual objects that reside on a piece > of hardware. It is not simply an integer. Please disregard this (my own) flame bait. -- MarkJ Tacoma, Washington -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: Unicode humor

2013-05-11 Thread Mark Lawrence
I wouldn't mind betting that other languages can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly even the Germans die laughing? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.pyth

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-11 Thread Mark Janssen
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote: >[...] the starting question I make to myself about Python is: which is the >single > and most basic use of Python as the entity it is? I mean, beside > programming, what's the single and most basic result one can expect from > "interacting" wi

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-13 Thread Mark Janssen
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > I've never understood why people use that site: the pages end up being > unintelligible cocktail-party noise-scapes with no hope of understanding who > is saying what, or in response to whom. You're very right. But that is what has made i

Python's sad, unimaginative Enum

2013-05-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
That's the title of this little beast http://www.acooke.org/cute/Pythonssad0.html if anybody's interested. -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Differences of "!=" operator behavior in python3 and python2 [ bug? ]

2013-05-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
comfortable with. Practicality beats purity I much prefer the alternative <> for != but some silly people insisted that this be removed from Python3. Just how stupid can you get? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython.

Re: Writing a blog post on the new Enum.

2013-05-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
subject to the Comfy Chair. I hope this clarifies everything. -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python for philosophers

2013-05-14 Thread Mark Janssen
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote: >I'm making my way to Python (and > OOP in general) from a philosophical perspective or point of view and try to > set the more global definition of Python's core as an "entity". In order to > do that, and following Wittgenstein's indication abo

Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2

2013-05-14 Thread Mark Janssen
> Sounds a lot like reddit threads. It's similar, but it goes a lot further. Where every other site without centralized editors, the thread mess on a simple flat page doesn't scale after about a 100 interactions. To sort out the mess, it takes another dimension. The project I'm working on uses

Re: any cherypy powred sites I can check out?

2013-05-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 17/05/2013 01:00, visphatesj...@gmail.com wrote: fuck straight off I assume you're the author of "How to win friends and influence people"? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mai

Re: Question about ast.literal_eval

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Lawrence
http://nedbatchelder.com/text/python-parsers.html -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: please help

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Lawrence
fetch data from stdin. I look forward to reviewing your code. -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 378: Format Specifier for Thousands Separator

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Lawrence
tor has lost favor to the string object's format method. Please stop perpetuating this myth, see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-February/116789.html and http://bugs.python.org/issue14123 -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/

Re: file I/O and arithmetic calculation

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Lawrence
e read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Accessing Json data (I think I am nearly there) complete beginner

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
y thinking about definite inefficiency. What evidence do you have to support this claim? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Prepending string "@" to usernames

2013-05-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
s http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Magazine

2013-05-24 Thread Mark Janssen
I always liked the daily Python-URL from Dr. Dobbs. Summaries of salient discussions on python-dev, ideas, list. interviews with devs on philosophies. quote of the week --m On 5/24/13, DRJ Reddy wrote: > Planning to start a python online chronicle.What you want to see in it. :) > -- > http://

Re: help how to sort a list in order of 'n' in python without using inbuilt functions??

2013-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
g GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: help how to sort a list in order of 'n' in python without using inbuilt functions??

2013-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
e up seven! Lies, damn lies and statistics? :) -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Magazine

2013-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
technology. So I would be able to talk to the file server across the street, but only IF its admin lets me. ChrisA By such means as leaving the top level admin password set to the factory default? :) -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGr

Re: CrazyHTTPd - HTTP Daemon in Python

2013-05-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
re using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for %: 'NoneType' and 'tuple'

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
ost a link to that toll plz? You have its name. You have Google. You have a mailing list that is getting tired of you not putting in any effort. ChrisA Not to mention double spaced google crap :( -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroups

Re: TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for %: 'NoneType' and 'tuple'

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
mature end of script headers: koukos.py what is that suexec? What has this got to do with Python? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cutting a deck of cards

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
decks) ;) Wrong if you're using Python 3 :( -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I want to know how to implement concurrent threads in Python

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
uot; had two authors. -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Encodign issue in Python 3.3.1 (once again)

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
#x27;SET NAMES UTF8' ) No wonder the Greek economy is so screwed up. -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I want to know how to implement concurrent threads in Python

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 26/05/2013 20:10, Daniel Gagliardi wrote: I want to know how to implement concurrent threads in Python google, bing, duckduckgo, yahoo... -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/ma

Re: Encodign issue in Python 3.3.1 (once again)

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 26/05/2013 23:32, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 26/05/2013 22:26, Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote: No thi is not a mysql issue becaus ei have this line above for storing and retrieval form database. con = pymysql.connect( db = 'metrites&#

Re: Cutting a deck of cards

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
3, you should be able to use a Unix-style shebang to indicate which Python you want to invoke. ChrisA See this http://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.3.html#pep-397-python-launcher-for-windows -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython.

Re: Python error codes and messages location

2013-05-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
s, This should make life easier for us http://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.3.html#pep-3151-reworking-the-os-and-io-exception-hierarchy -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: This mail never gets delivered. Any ideas why?

2013-05-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
minutes. Keep doubling the time like this and you'll soon be up to the 24 hours that's considered polite. As previously stated the time can be shortened substantially by getting your cheque book out. -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/Googl

Re: Encodign issue in Python 3.3.1 (once again)

2013-05-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 27/05/2013 15:16, Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote: I cant solve this plz help! Sure, all you need do is get your cheque book out. Also have you ever heard the expression "patience is a virtue"? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroup

Re: Python error codes and messages location

2013-05-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Short-circuit Logic

2013-05-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
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Re: How to: Setuptools

2013-05-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
ont of you. Do that and report back on what happened -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to: Setuptools

2013-05-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
ur money, you takes your choice :) -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python #ifdef

2013-05-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
i/six/1.3.0 -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How clean/elegant is Python's syntax?

2013-05-29 Thread Mark Janssen
You might try http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide -- MarkJ Tacoma, Washington -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is this code correct?

2013-05-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
& maybe it is correct but it wont run, perhaps somethign with linux? Please ask questions unrelated to Python on a list that is unrelated to Python. -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.p

Re: User Input

2013-05-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 30/05/2013 15:03, Eternaltheft wrote: do you think ti would be better if i call drawBoard? How would I know if you don't quote any context? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.o

Re: Too many python installations. Should i remove them all and install the latest?

2013-05-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
r the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
e watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
ery late at the party. -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 02/06/2013 16:04, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: Τη Κυριακή, 2 Ιουνίου 2013 5:51:31 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Mark Lawrence έγραψε: You've obviously arrived very late at the party. Apart from the "funny" commenting, can you for once contribute towards to an actual solution or this

Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
ffort in first, show some patience, or *PAY* for support. -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
lem reappears. Wash, rinse, repeat :) -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
ys.stdout.detach()) Which one should i keep and why? import ocdecs? Sums up perfectly the amount of effort you put in. -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'W

Re: [RELEASED] Python 2.7.5

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
v/peps/pep-0373/ -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
oem of the week :) -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
hose of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: lstrip problem - beginner question

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"]

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
#x27;Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Do you consider Python a 4GL? Why (not)?

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"]

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
atellite on top. I know it's safe as the code is written in ADA. Whoops :( -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence --

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
l - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
atching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I just wrote my first Python program a guessing game and it exits with an error I get this.

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
nd for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Source code to identify user through browser?

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
rom Hell fit in this? :) -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I just wrote my first Python program a guessing game and it exits with an error I get this.

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
uot; Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)

2013-06-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
awed Python Flexible String Representation :) -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"]

2013-06-06 Thread Mark Janssen
> Whatever benefit there is in declaring the type of a function is lost due > to the inability to duck-type or program to an interface. There's no type > that says "any object with a 'next' method", for example. And having to > declare local variables is a PITA with little benefit. > > Give me a la

Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"]

2013-06-06 Thread Mark Janssen
>> Python has seduced us all into lazy typing. That's what it is. > > Bulshytt. If you have no idea what polymorphism is, you shouldn't even > be participating in this conversation. I am aware of what it means, but Python doesn't really have it (although it may evolve to it with annotations). Bu

Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"]

2013-06-06 Thread Mark Janssen
>> I am aware of what it means, but Python doesn't really have it (although >> it may evolve to it with annotations). > > No polymorphism huh? > > > py> len([1, 2, 3]) # len works on lists > 3 > py> len((1, 2)) # and on tuples > 2 > py> len({}) # and on dicts > 0 > py> len('I pity the fool') #

Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"]

2013-06-06 Thread Mark Janssen
> Fairly definitive terms have existed since 1985: > http://lucacardelli.name/Papers/OnUnderstanding.A4.pdf >> >> You are making an "outside view of a function" (until a better term is >> found). So that give you one possible view of polymorphism. However, >> *within* a class that I would write,

Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"]

2013-06-06 Thread Mark Janssen
On 6/6/13, alex23 wrote: > On Jun 7, 11:44 am, Mark Janssen wrote: >> > Bulshytt. If you have no idea what polymorphism is, you shouldn't even >> > be participating in this conversation. >> >> I am aware of what it means, but Python doesn't really hav

Re: Re-using copyrighted code

2013-06-08 Thread Mark Janssen
st re-share accordingly, then you should, otherwise there's very little case that could be brought about if the code was put into a published, "open-source" project, whatever the license. mark On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Malte Forkel wrote: > Hello, > > I have written a s

Re: Re-using copyrighted code

2013-06-09 Thread Mark Janssen
> The Secret Labs license is very explicit: "All rights reserved". That line > means you can't touch it under pain of lawsuit. That's not true. It means whatever rights they do have, they are stating, in effect, that they have not given them away. But this is a difficult legal point, because by

Re: Re-using copyrighted code

2013-06-09 Thread Mark Janssen
> At least partially, my confusion seems to be caused by the dichotomy of > the concepts of copyright and license. How do these relate to each other? A license emerges out of the commercial domain is purely about commercial protections. A copyright comes from the "academic" domain is pure about

Re: Re-using copyrighted code

2013-06-09 Thread Mark Janssen
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 06/09/2013 11:18 AM, Mark Janssen wrote: >> You actually do not. Attaching a legal document is purely a secondary >> protection from those who would take away right already granted by US >> copyright. > > Y

Re: Re-using copyrighted code

2013-06-09 Thread Mark Janssen
>> That's not entirely correct. If he *publishes* his code (I'm using >> this term "publish" technically to mean "put forth in a way where >> anyone of the general public can or is encouraged to view"), then he >> is *tacitly* giving up protections that secrecy (or *not* disclosing >> it) would *a

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