Re: Globals or objects?

2008-02-21 Thread tinnews
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a global variable holding a count. One source Google found suggested that I wouldn't need the global if I used an object. So I created a Singleton class that now holds the former global as an instance attribute. Bye,

Re: Globals or objects?

2008-02-21 Thread tinnews
Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a global variable holding a count. One source Google found suggested that I wouldn't need the global if I used an object. So I created a Singleton class that now holds the former global as an

Re: Globals or objects?

2008-02-21 Thread tinnews
Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a global variable holding a count. One source Google found suggested that I wouldn't need the global if I

Re: Globals or objects?

2008-02-22 Thread tinnews
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but you do keep having to use a longer reference to the value so what have you won? Clarity, simplicity, robustness Clarity - why is it clearer? Consider two function calls: x = ham(arg, counter) y = spam(arg) Both do exactly

Re: Globals or objects?

2008-02-22 Thread tinnews
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:01:20 +, tinnews wrote: Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but you do keep having to use a longer reference to the value so what have you won? Clarity, simplicity, robustness Clarity - why

Re: Globals or objects?

2008-02-23 Thread tinnews
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:53:54 +, tinnews wrote: But you're not comparing what the OP posted. He was comparing a global with an object with a single variable inside it. Either would work with the y = spam(arg) example above. What do you

Efficient way of testing for substring being one of a set?

2008-04-03 Thread tinnews
What's the neatest and/or most efficient way of testing if one of a set of strings (contained in a dictionary, list or similar) is a sub-string of a given string? I.e. I have a string delivered into my program and I want to see if any of a set of strings is a substring of the string I have been

Re: Efficient way of testing for substring being one of a set?

2008-04-03 Thread tinnews
Paul Hankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 12:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the neatest and/or most efficient way of testing if one of a set of strings (contained in a dictionary, list or similar) is a sub-string of a given string? I.e. I have a string delivered into my

Re: Efficient way of testing for substring being one of a set?

2008-04-03 Thread tinnews
Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: def foo(sample, strings): for s in strings: if sample in s: return True return False This was an order of magnitude faster for me than using str.find or str.index. That was finding rare words in the

A question about creating Maildir mailboxes with mailbox.Maildir

2008-04-03 Thread tinnews
I have mail delivered into Maildirs which live in a directory hierarchy as follows:- /home/isbd/Mail/Li/name of maildir /home/isbd/Mail/In/name of maildir Note that neither /home/isbd/Mail/Li nor /home/isbd/Mail/In are Maildir mailboxes. How do I create a new Maildir mailbox in either

How easy is it to install python as non-root user?

2008-04-03 Thread tinnews
Does python install fairly easily for a non-root user? I have an ssh login account onto a Linux system that currently provides Python 2.4.3 and I'd really like to use some of the improvements in Python 2.5.x. So, if I download the Python-2.5.2.tgz file is it just the standard:- ./configure

Re: How easy is it to install python as non-root user?

2008-04-03 Thread tinnews
Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Does python install fairly easily for a non-root user? I have an ssh login account onto a Linux system that currently provides Python 2.4.3 and I'd really like to use some of the improvements in Python 2.5.x.

mailbox.Maildir(), confusing documentation

2008-04-03 Thread tinnews
Having got my Python 2.5.2 installed I'm trying some things out with the mailbox.Maildir() class. If I do the following:- import maibox mailbox.Maildir(/home/isbd/Mail/Li/pytest) then the pytest Maildir mailbox is created - which is great but isn't documented. If the above creates the

Is there any way to say ignore case with in?

2008-04-04 Thread tinnews
Is there any way in python to say if string1 in string2: do something ignoring the case of string1 and string2? I know I could use:- if lower(string1) in lower(string2): do something but it somehow feels there ought to be an easier (tidier?) way. -- Chris Green --

Re: mailbox.Maildir(), confusing documentation

2008-04-06 Thread tinnews
Peter Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having got my Python 2.5.2 installed I'm trying some things out with the mailbox.Maildir() class. If I do the following:- import maibox mailbox.Maildir(/home/isbd/Mail/Li/pytest) then the pytest Maildir

Presumably an import is no faster or slower than opening a file?

2008-04-06 Thread tinnews
I'm trying to minimise the overheads of a small Python utility, I'm not really too fussed about how fast it is but I would like to minimise its loading effect on the system as it could be called lots of times (and, no, I don't think there's an easy way of keeping it running and using the same copy

A file iteration question/problem

2008-04-06 Thread tinnews
I want to iterate through the lines of a file in a recursive function so I can't use:- f = open(listfile, 'r') for ln in f: because when the function calls itself it won't see any more lines in the file. E.g. more fully I want to do somthing like:- def recfun(f) while True:

Re: Presumably an import is no faster or slower than opening a file?

2008-04-06 Thread tinnews
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 avr, 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to minimise the overheads of a small Python utility, I'm not really too fussed about how fast it is but I would like to minimise its loading effect on the system as it could be called lots of

Re: Presumably an import is no faster or slower than opening a file?

2008-04-07 Thread tinnews
Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 8:41 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to minimise the overheads of a small Python utility, I'm not really too fussed about how fast it is but I would like to minimise its loading effect on the system as it could be called lots of

Re: A file iteration question/problem

2008-04-07 Thread tinnews
Arnaud Delobelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 4:40 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to iterate through the lines of a file in a recursive function so I can't use:-     f = open(listfile, 'r')     for ln in f: because when the function calls itself it won't see any more

How to find documentation about methods etc. for iterators

2008-04-09 Thread tinnews
I'm not sure if I have even phrased that right but anyway How does one find (in the standard Python documentation) information about things like the iteritems() method and the enumerate() function. They are mentioned in the tutorial as ways of getting more information as you loop through an

Re: How to find documentation about methods etc. for iterators

2008-04-10 Thread tinnews
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | I'm not sure if I have even phrased that right but anyway | | How does one find (in the standard Python documentation) information | about things like the iteritems() method and the

Re: How to find documentation about methods etc. for iterators

2008-04-10 Thread tinnews
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message | news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | I'm not sure if I have even phrased that right but anyway | | | | How does

Re: 答复: 有中国人乎?

2008-04-15 Thread tinnews
Penny Y. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -邮件原件- 发件人: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 代表 Steve Holden 发送时间: 2008年4月15日 2:17 收件人: python-list@python.org 主题: Re: 有中国人乎? Since what I entered in English was something like Yes, Python has a future. But it will take some study.

Re: Best way to store config or preferences in a multi-platform way.

2008-05-01 Thread tinnews
Carl Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 1, 12:11 pm, Jon Ribbens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-05-01, Ivan Illarionov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO .ini-like config files are from the stone age. The modern approach is to use YAML (http://www.yaml.org). You mean YAML isn't a

How to uninstall something installed by setup.py install?

2008-05-11 Thread tinnews
I have installed a development version of rdiff-backup using its setup.py install but now find I need to uninstall it. Is there any 'easy' way to do this and/or can I find out what files it has installed where so I can remove them? -- Chris Green --

Python libraries for iCalendar, which one to use?

2008-05-14 Thread tinnews
I am about to try writing a little Python utility to extract some data from an iCalendar file. A quick Google search turns up two possible libraries to use - vobject and iCalendar package for Python. First question - have I missed any other (better?) ones? Second question - how do I choose

Re: python newbie: some surprises

2008-05-15 Thread tinnews
Kees Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far, I have seen only one editor that understands the difference between TABs and indentation, and that is Emacs. Most vi clones (and the original vi) do too! :-) E.g. in the clone I use (vile) there are independent settings for tabstop and

How to find in in the documentation

2009-03-13 Thread tinnews
I've had this trouble before, how do I find the details of how in works in the documentation. E.g. the details of:- if string in bigstring: It gets a mention in the if section but not a lot. -- Chris Green -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Neatest way to do a case insensitive in?

2009-03-13 Thread tinnews
What's the neatest way to do the following in case insensitive fashion:- if stringA in stringB: bla bla bla I know I can just do:- if stringA.lower() in stringB.lower(): bla bla bla But I was wondering if there's a neater/easier way? -- Chris Green --

Re: How to find in in the documentation

2009-03-13 Thread tinnews
Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 21:01 +, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I've had this trouble before, how do I find the details of how in works in the documentation. E.g. the details of:- if string in bigstring: It gets a mention in the if

Re: Neatest way to do a case insensitive in?

2009-03-13 Thread tinnews
Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 21:04 +, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: What's the neatest way to do the following in case insensitive fashion:- if stringA in stringB: bla bla bla I know I can just do:- if stringA.lower() in

Python package for .ics (iCalendar) files

2009-03-13 Thread tinnews
Is there an 'offical' Python package for handling .ics files or is the follwing the best there is:- http://codespeak.net/icalendar/ It seems rather old but Google didn't pop anything else up. -- Chris Green -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to find in in the documentation

2009-03-14 Thread tinnews
Colin J. Williams c...@ncf.ca wrote: Piet van Oostrum wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk (t) wrote: t I've had this trouble before, how do I find the details of how in t works in the documentation. E.g. the details of:- t if string in bigstring: t It gets a mention in the if

How to add months to a date (datetime object)?

2009-03-15 Thread tinnews
I have a date in the form of a datetime object and I want to add (for example) three months to it. At the moment I can't see any very obvious way of doing this. I need something like:- myDate = datetime.date.today() inc = datetime.timedelta(months=3) myDate += inc but, of course,

Re: How to add months to a date (datetime object)?

2009-03-15 Thread tinnews
Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: In article 49bd3ab8$0$510$bed64...@news.gradwell.net, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I have a date in the form of a datetime object and I want to add (for example) three months to it. At the moment I can't see any very obvious way of doing this. I need

Re: How to add months to a date (datetime object)?

2009-03-15 Thread tinnews
Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:28 AM, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I have a date in the form of a datetime object and I want to add (for example) three months to it.  At the moment I can't see any very obvious way of doing this.  I need something like:-  

Re: How to add months to a date (datetime object)?

2009-03-16 Thread tinnews
Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 49bd42ac$0$512$bed64...@news.gradwell.net, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I was just hoping there was some calendar object in Python which could do all that for me (I need the handling of 31st and February etc.) Whatever your requirement, chances are

Python database 'frontends', what's available?

2008-05-23 Thread tinnews
I'm desperately trying to move a Microsoft Access database application (a simple accounts system I wrote myself) to Linux. Python is one of my preferred programming laguages so I wonder if there are any good Python 'frameworks' for writing database applications, in particular I need good

Re: Python database 'frontends', what's available?

2008-05-25 Thread tinnews
Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 1:59 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm desperately trying to move a Microsoft Access database application (a simple accounts system I wrote myself) to Linux.  Python is one of my preferred programming laguages so I wonder if there are any

mailbox.Maildir question/problem

2007-12-11 Thread tinnews
I am trying to write a utility to remove empty maildir mailboxes. It sounds like this should be very simple but it's proving really difficult. I'm doing this on a Fedora 7 system with python 2.5. The first question is how to detect whether a directory is a maildir mailbox. The following code

Re: mailbox.Maildir question/problem

2007-12-14 Thread tinnews
Ross Ridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there *any* way I can get python to access maildirs which are not named using this (IMHO stupid) convention? Well, the mailbox module doesn't support deleting mailboxes, so I'm not sure why you want to use it. I was hoping to

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-14 Thread tinnews
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-12-14, farsheed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me be clear for you: there are someone in my company who love to use my software in other companies that she works there also. and because it is an inhouse tool, my CEO wanted me to protect it

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-18 Thread tinnews
Jan Claeys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:54:35 +, schreef Grant Edwards: Uh what? I don't know what country you're in, but in the US, it doesn't take any time at all to copyright something. The mere act of writing something copyrights it. I thought it was the same

Where best to put local modules?

2007-12-19 Thread tinnews
I'm just beginning to create some python modules for my own use and I'm wondering where to put them. Initially I have put them in $HOME/bin and I have set PYTHONPATH to point to them there. It all seems to be OK but I was wondering if I might be storing up problems for the future by putting

Re: Where best to put local modules?

2007-12-20 Thread tinnews
Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:02:20 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi?: I'm just beginning to create some python modules for my own use and I'm wondering where to put them. Initially I have put them in $HOME/bin and I have set PYTHONPATH to point to

Re: Where best to put local modules?

2007-12-20 Thread tinnews
Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm just beginning to create some python modules for my own use and I'm wondering where to put them. Initially I have put them in $HOME/bin and I have set PYTHONPATH to point to them there. It all seems to be OK

Re: Question about email-handling modules

2007-12-20 Thread tinnews
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:31:10 +, Robert Latest wrote: [snip most of question and helpful answer] But note that message.get_payload() will return either a string (for single part emails) or a list of Messages (for multi-part messages). Note also

Re: Where best to put local modules?

2007-12-20 Thread tinnews
Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm just beginning to create some python modules for my own use and I'm wondering where to put them. Initially I have put them in $HOME/bin

Very strange caching problem with python script run from apache

2007-12-28 Thread tinnews
I'm running a python script via the apache ExtFilterDefine directive, it works basically as expected *except* that when I change the script apache/firefox continue to run the old version of the python script until I remove the script completely and then replace it. I.e. my script is called

Re: Very strange caching problem with python script run from apache

2007-12-28 Thread tinnews
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running a python script via the apache ExtFilterDefine directive, it works basically as expected *except* that when I change the script apache/firefox continue to run the old version of the python script until I remove the script completely and then replace it.

Re: how to use bool

2008-01-03 Thread tinnews
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i have some code where i set a bool type variable and if the value is false i would like to return from the method with an error msg.. being a beginner I wd like some help here class myclass: . def mymethod(self): success=True

Re: how to use bool

2008-01-04 Thread tinnews
Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03 Jan 2008 16:09:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i have some code where i set a bool type variable and if the value is false i would like to return from the method with an error msg.. being a beginner I wd like

mailbox.mbox.add() appears to set both access and modification times

2008-12-19 Thread tinnews
I'm using mailbox in Python 2.5.2 to filter incoming mail into separate mailboxes. I prefer mbox for various reasons and so I have used that format. It would appear then when I do:- dest = mailbox.mbox(destDir, factory=None) dest.add(m) it sets both the access and modification times of

Can't get sys.stdin.readlines() to work

2010-01-31 Thread tinnews
I'm trying to read some data from standard input, what I'm actually trying to do is process some date pasted in using the mouse cut and paste on a Linux box (xubuntu 9.10) in a terminal window. First attempts failed so I'm now trying the trivial:- import sys data = sys.stdin.readlines()

Re: Can't get sys.stdin.readlines() to work

2010-01-31 Thread tinnews
Richard Thomas chards...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 31, 6:15 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I'm trying to read some data from standard input, what I'm actually trying to do is process some date pasted in using the mouse cut and paste on a Linux box (xubuntu 9.10) in a terminal window. First

What's this vText() annotation mean?

2010-02-02 Thread tinnews
What does this vText() annotation mean in a returned list:- [['Apr 19', vText(u'PAYE'), ''], ['Mar 31', vText(u'VAT'), ''], ['May 19', vText(u'Year end PAYE'), '']] I *guess* it's some sort of indication of non-constant text, I need a way to make it constant (well, to get a constant copy of

pyfltk ducumentation question

2010-02-03 Thread tinnews
I have just installed pyfltk version 1.1.4 on my xubuntu 9.10 system, it's working OK and a fairly trivial little program I have written is able to pop up a GUI window. However I'm now a bit stuck as the documentation seems a little sparse. For example I'm using FL_Multiline_Output and can't

Re: test -- please ignore

2010-02-04 Thread tinnews
kj no.em...@please.post wrote: In 87wryumvff@benfinney.id.au Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: kj no.em...@please.post writes: (my replies in a different comp.lang.python thread are getting rejected by the server; i have no problem posting to alt.test; and i'm trying

What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually do (if anything)?

2009-09-25 Thread tinnews
I can't get the list_folders() method of the mailbox.Maildir class to do anything remotely useful. It seems to do nothing at all. I have a directory which contains a number of maildir malboxes:- chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex total 24 drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30

Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ?do (if anything)?

2009-09-25 Thread tinnews
Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: On Sep 25, 3:22 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I can't get the list_folders() method of the mailbox.Maildir class to do anything remotely useful.  It seems to do nothing at all.  I have a directory which contains a number of maildir malboxes:-    

Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ??do (if anything)?

2009-09-26 Thread tinnews
Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: The Maildir++ spec states that folders need to begin with a period. The list_folders method enforces that:     def list_folders(self):         Return a list of folder names.         result = []         for entry in os.listdir(self._path):  

Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ??do (if anything)?

2009-09-26 Thread tinnews
Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. -- Chris Green The doc says that Folders of the style

Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ?do (if anything)?

2009-09-27 Thread tinnews
Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. The Maildir specification does not allow for

Re: HTMLgen???

2009-10-15 Thread tinnews
Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: En Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:58:02 -0300, an...@vandervlies.xs4all.nl escribió: Does HTMLgen (Robin Friedrich's) still exsist?? And, if so, where can it be found? Would you consider using HyperText? It's inspired on HTMLGen but I like its

mailbox.mbox not locking mbox properly

2010-08-09 Thread tinnews
I'm using the python mailbox class in a script that processes incoming mail and delivers it to various mbox format mailboxes. It appears that, although I am calling the lock method on the destination before writing to the mbox and calling unlock afterwards the locking isn't working correctly. I

Re: mailbox.mbox not locking mbox properly

2010-08-10 Thread tinnews
Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I'm using the python mailbox class in a script that processes incoming mail and delivers it to various mbox format mailboxes. It appears that, although I am calling the lock method on the destination before writing to the mbox and

Problem with module 'evolution' after moving system

2010-11-24 Thread tinnews
I have just moved my desktop system (running xubuntu 10.04) to new hardware. I have an almost trivial python program that uses the evolution module which no longer works and I'm having trouble working out why. The program is:- #!/usr/bin/python # # # # import evolution

Re: Problem with module 'evolution' after moving system

2010-11-24 Thread tinnews
tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: [snip] Using 'help' reveals basic information for evolution but reports no documentation for evolution.ebook. On the old system (exactly the same version of python, same OS, same everything just about) help(evolution.ebook) shows the expected documentation.

Re: Problem with module 'evolution' after moving system

2010-11-24 Thread tinnews
tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: [snip] Using 'help' reveals basic information for evolution but reports no documentation for evolution.ebook. On the old system (exactly the same version of python, same OS, same everything just about) help(evolution.ebook)

mailbox.mbox.add() sets access time as well as modification time

2009-04-23 Thread tinnews
It seems to me that mailbox.mbox.add() sets the access time of a mbox file as well as the modification time. This is not good for MUAs that detect new mail by looking to see if the access time is before the modification time. Have I done something wrong somewhere or is mailbox.mbox.add() really

Re: mailbox.mbox.add() sets access time as well as modification time

2009-04-25 Thread tinnews
MRAB goo...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: It seems to me that mailbox.mbox.add() sets the access time of a mbox file as well as the modification time. This is not good for MUAs that detect new mail by looking to see if the access time is before the modification

Re: mailbox.mbox.add() sets access time as well as modification time

2009-04-25 Thread tinnews
Grant Edwards inva...@invalid wrote: On 2009-04-24, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid wrote: Anybody writing to an mbox mailbox has to follow the rules if they expect to interoperate with other mail applications. If mailbox.mbox.add() doesn't preserve the atime when writing to an mbox,

Re: mailbox.mbox.add() sets access time as well as modification time

2009-04-25 Thread tinnews
Grant Edwards inva...@invalid wrote: On 2009-04-24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message gtudnry7tappu2zunz2dnuvz_h6dn...@posted.visi, Grant Edwards wrote: AFAIK, atimemtime has been the standard way to determine when an mbox contains new mail for at

mailbox.mbox.add() also seems to set file permissions

2009-04-25 Thread tinnews
mailbox.mbox.add() has *another* 'quirk'. When it adds a message to an mbox file it seems to set the permissions to 0755 which is quite wrong for mbox files. I get the feeling that the mbox versions of the functions are just bodged maildir ones. If one was creating a maildir it *might* make

Re: mailbox.mbox.add() sets access time as well as modification time

2009-04-26 Thread tinnews
Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message 49f33d8d$0$516$bed64...@news.gradwell.net, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: mbox has several advantages over maildir (for me anyway):- It allows easy removal of empty mailboxes (in my case by the MUA) Really? I

Re: mailbox.mbox.add() sets access time as well as modification time

2009-04-26 Thread tinnews
Grant Edwards inva...@invalid wrote: I suppose I could do the following:- lock the mbox get the atime add the new message with mailbox.mbox.add() restore the atime unlock the mbox You could fix mbox.add(). ;) Yes, but I'm not sure that I'm that competant!

Re: mailbox.mbox.add() also seems to set file permissions

2009-04-27 Thread tinnews
Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: In article gksdnzap17601g7unz2dnuvz_jti4...@posted.visi, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid wrote: On 2009-04-25, tinn...@isbd.co.uk tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: Where should one report bugs/errors in python library classes? http://docs.python.org/bugs.html

Re: mailbox.mbox.add() sets access time as well as modification time

2009-04-28 Thread tinnews
Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message jo2dnwpluopxvwjunz2dnuvz_qudn...@posted.usinternet, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-04-26, Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message _vqdnf6pny1gymzunz2dnuvz_qcdn...@posted.visi, Grant

How to retry something with a timeout in Python?

2009-04-28 Thread tinnews
This feels like it should be simple but I can't see a clean way of doing it at the moment. I want to retry locking a file for a number of times and then give up, in pseudo-code it would be something like:- for N times try to lock file if successful break out of for loop

Re: How to retry something with a timeout in Python?

2009-04-29 Thread tinnews
Scott David Daniels scott.dani...@acm.org wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: This feels like it should be simple but I can't see a clean way of doing it at the moment. I want to retry locking a file for a number of times and then give up, in pseudo-code it would be something like:-

How to print something only if it exists?

2012-09-06 Thread tinnews
I want to print a series of list elements some of which may not exist, e.g. I have a line:- print day, fld[1], balance, fld[2] fld[2] doesn't always exist (fld is the result of a split) so the print fails when it isn't set. I know I could simply use an if but ultimately there may be more

Re: How to print something only if it exists?

2012-09-08 Thread tinnews
Dave Angel d...@davea.name wrote: Would you like to define exists ? A list is not sparse, so all items exist if their subscript is less than the length of the list. So all you need to do is compare 2 to len(fld). Yes, a I said a simple len(fld) will tell me if fld[2] 'exists' but it gets

A dateutil error has appeared, due to updates? How to fix?

2012-09-23 Thread tinnews
I have a python script which uses the dateutil module with the following:- import sys import datetime import icalendar from dateutil.relativedelta import relativedelta The section of code which uses relativedelta is as follows:- # # # If the event is a

Re: A dateutil error has appeared, due to updates? How to fix?

2012-09-23 Thread tinnews
Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: [snip description of problem] Have I lost a module somewhere in the updates or has something in python changed such that my code no longer works as it used to? Can anyone help diagnose this please. You probably have a

What's the tidy/elegant way to protect this against null/empty parameters?

2012-10-15 Thread tinnews
I want to fix an error in some code I have installed, however I don't really want to just bodge it. The function producing the error is:- def get_text(self, idx): # override ! node = self.items[idx] a= [ , .join(node.tags), node.comment,

Re: What's the tidy/elegant way to protect this against null/empty parameters?

2012-10-16 Thread tinnews
Marco Nawijn naw...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:33:02 PM UTC+2, (unknown) wrote: I want to fix an error in some code I have installed, however I don't really want to just bodge it. The function producing the error is:- def get_text(self, idx):

Question about email.message_from_string() and Message objects

2012-11-11 Thread tinnews
I'm a little confused about the relationship between the Python email.parser convenience function email.message_from_string() and the mailbox.Message objects. If I want an mailbox.mboxMessage given the message as a stream of text is the right way to do it as follows (or at least a reasonable way

Re: Question about email.message_from_string() and Message objects

2012-11-11 Thread tinnews
tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I'm a little confused about the relationship between the Python email.parser convenience function email.message_from_string() and the mailbox.Message objects. If I want an mailbox.mboxMessage given the message as a stream of text is the right way to do it as

logging, can one get it to email messages over a certain level?

2012-11-11 Thread tinnews
I'm sure this must be possible but at the moment I can't see how to do it. I want to send an E-Mail when the logging module logs a message above a certain level (probably for ERROR and CRITICAL messages only). I.e. I want some sort of hook that will be called when these messages are logged (I

Re: logging, can one get it to email messages over a certain level?

2012-11-12 Thread tinnews
Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 11, 9:48 am, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I'm sure this must be possible but at the moment I can't see how to do it. I want to send an E-Mail when the logging module logs a message above a certain level (probably for ERROR and CRITICAL messages

Re: logging, can one get it to email messages over a certain level?

2012-11-12 Thread tinnews
Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 11, 9:48 am, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I'm sure this must be possible but at the moment I can't see how to do it. I want to send an E-Mail when the logging module logs a

Re: Suggest design to accomodate non-unix platforms ?

2012-04-18 Thread tinnews
Richard Shea shearich...@gmail.com wrote: On a *nix box this is a reasonable bit of Python : cmd = ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -i %s %s@%s '%s' %s % (key, user, dns, echo CONNECTION READY, tmp_file) result = os.system(cmd) ... on a Windows box it will fail because 'ssh' isn't part of

Re: Smallest/cheapest possible Python platform?

2012-05-26 Thread tinnews
Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: What's the smallest/cheapest/lowest-power hardware platform I can run Python on today? I'm looking for something to use as a hardware controller in a battery-powered device and want to avoid writing in C for this project. Performance requirements are

PyQt QCalendarWidget events question

2012-07-16 Thread tinnews
I am trying to use the PyQt4 calendar widget to perform some different actions on specific dates. There are three events available:- selectionChanged() activated(QDate) clicked(QDate) On trying all these out it would appear that the event handlers get called as follows:- The

Re: PyQt QCalendarWidget events question

2012-07-16 Thread tinnews
tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I am trying to use the PyQt4 calendar widget to perform some different actions on specific dates. There are three events available:- selectionChanged() activated(QDate) clicked(QDate) On trying all these out it would appear that the event handlers

Re: PyQt QCalendarWidget events question

2012-07-17 Thread tinnews
John Posner jjpos...@optimum.net wrote: On 7/16/2012 12:28 PM, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I am trying to use the PyQt4 calendar widget to perform some different actions on specific dates. There are three events available:- selectionChanged()

Contacts/Addressbook application - any good Python ones out there?

2011-12-09 Thread tinnews
I'm after an application for managing Contacts (i.e. an Address Book) and as I suspect I will want to 'tune' it a bit Python would be my preferred language. So far I have found :- pycocuma - reasonable but rather old and a bit clunky (uses TCL/Tk) pyaddressbook - newer but very minimal

Re: Contacts/Addressbook application - any good Python ones out there?

2011-12-09 Thread tinnews
Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Wammu? I hadn't really considered gammu/wammu as I saw it as a mobile phone synchrinsation tool, but I've looked a bit harder and it might very well be what I need - thank you! On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:41 AM, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I'm after an

Re: Contacts/Addressbook application - any good Python ones out there?

2011-12-09 Thread tinnews
tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Wammu? I hadn't really considered gammu/wammu as I saw it as a mobile phone synchrinsation tool, but I've looked a bit harder and it might very well be what I need - thank you! Well one problem with wammu is that you

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