Re: Homework help

2008-04-01 Thread Dave Hansen
On Apr 1, 11:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 1, 12:17 pm, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't necessarily want the answers, but need help on how to approach it/the steps i need to solve the problems What parts are you having difficulty

Re: Order in which modules are imported

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Hansen
On Feb 22, 5:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I imported two modules (random and matplotlib), and found that the functions available to me from the random module depended on the order in which the imports occured. In particular, if I import random first, [...] import random from pylab

Re: Finding overlapping times...

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Dec 13, 5:45 pm, Breal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a list that looks like the following [(10, 100010), (15, 17), (19, 100015)] I would like to be able to determine which of these overlap each other. So, in this case, tuple 1 overlaps with tuples 2 and 3. Tuple 2

Re: newbie: self.member syntax seems /really/ annoying

2007-09-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sep 12, 5:21 am, Charles Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just started playing around with Python, as a possible replacement for a mix of C++, Matlab and Lisp. The language looks lovely and clean with one huge exception: I do a lot of numerical modeling, so I deal with objects (like

Re: Car-ac-systems

2007-09-11 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sep 11, 12:42 pm, Zentrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip What is it about please do not top-post that you have difficulty understanding? Or do MVPs feel that their time is so much more valuable than anyone else's that they are free to ignore the norms? Who made this the norm?

Re: Newbee Question

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Aug 21, 2:57 am, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] pay = min(num, 22) * 0.4 + max(num-22, 0) * 1.4 pay = num*0.4 + (num22)*(num-22) ;-) -=Dave -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: regexp problem in Python

2007-08-03 Thread Dave Hansen
On Aug 3, 4:41 pm, Ehsan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to find http://www.2shared.com/download/1716611/e2000f22/ [...] I use this pattern : http.*?\.(wmv|3gp).* but it returns only 'wmv' and '3gp' instead of http://www.2shared.com/ download/1716611/e2000f22/Jadeed_Mlak14.wmv?

Re: The Modernization of Emacs

2007-06-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Jun 21, 9:49 am, Robert Uhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Given that in its out-of-the-box configuration it's well-nigh unusable without a printed-out cheat sheet of some kind, of the sort that were supposed to have died out in the 80s, getting it customized

Re: The Modernization of Emacs

2007-06-20 Thread Dave Hansen
On Jun 20, 8:28 am, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the E in Emacs stands for extensible. Part of the appeal of Emacs is that you can change it to accommodate you. Actually, though Emacs is the epitome of extensibility, the E stands for Editor. EMACS is simply short for

Re: Is PEP-8 a Code or More of a Guideline?

2007-05-30 Thread Dave Hansen
Apologies for jumping into the thread late. On May 27, 3:25 pm, Roy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is C no longer a major language? The long-standing convention there is for lower_case_with_underscores. Which dates back to the days of ASR-33's which only

Re: Suggestions for how to approach this problem?

2007-05-08 Thread Dave Hansen
On May 8, 3:00 pm, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: I think I have vague idea how the input looks like, but it would be helpful if you show some example input and wanted output. Good idea. Here's what it looks like now: 1. Levy, S.B. (1964) Isologous

Re: Mastering Python

2007-03-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mar 16, 8:39 am, Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Stop thinking about *how* to start and *just start*. Python is pretty Indeed. Of all the fortune cookies I've eaten over the years, I've saved (and taped to my monitor) only one fortune. It reads: Begin...the rest is easy.

Re: Isn't there a better way?

2006-07-22 Thread Dave Hansen
On 21 Jul 2006 07:51:15 -0700 in comp.lang.python, T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using an optparse to get command line options, and then pass them to an instance of another class: # Class that uses optparse.OptionParser foo = Parse_Option() # Class that does the real work bar = Processor()

Re: Coding style

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:09:32 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] lst = [1,2,3,4,5] while lst: lst.pop() Or even just: lst = [] del lst[:] is probably closer to what the OP wants... Regards, -=Dave -- Change

Re: stderr, stdout, and errno 24

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On 12 Jul 2006 18:09:42 -0700 in comp.lang.python, Wesley Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To capture output from python scripts run from a C++ app I've added the following code at the beggening of the C++ app: PyRun_SimpleString(import grabber); PyRun_SimpleString(import sys);

Re: Restricted Access

2006-07-11 Thread Dave Hansen
On 11 Jul 2006 10:19:22 -0700 in comp.lang.python, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K.S.Sreeram [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Java is not the only restricted execution environment around. Javascript, as implemented by most browsers, is an excellent lightweight restricted execution

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:12:26 GMT in comp.lang.python, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know there's a request for a good IDE at least once a week on the ng, but hopefully this question is a little different. I'm looking for suggestions for a good cross-platform text editor (which the

Re: Tabs are *MISUNDERSTOOD*, *EVIL* AND *STUPID*, end of discussion. (Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code)

2006-05-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On 19 May 2006 07:18:03 GMT in comp.lang.python, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My experience of programming with either spaces or tabs has taught me that tabs are evil not for themselves, but simply because no matter how hard you try they always end up being mixed with spaces.

Re: Sorting of list containing tuples

2006-05-18 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 18 May 2006 21:29:59 +0200 in comp.lang.python, Ronny Mandal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Assume we have a list l, containing tuples t1,t2... i.e. l = [(2,3),(3,2),(6,5)] And now I want to sort l reverse by the second element in the tuple, i.e the result should ideally be: l =

Re: Tabs are EVIL *and* STUPID, end of discussion. (Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code)

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 17 May 2006 17:28:26 GMT in comp.lang.python, Edward Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sybren Stuvel wrote: Andy Sy enlightened us with: Like I said, you'll *NEVER* get that fancy shmancy 'semantic indentation' idea to work properly in the most basic utilities which have the 8-space

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code ('semantic' vs. arbitrary indentation)

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:02:46 -0700 in comp.lang.python, Carl J. Van Arsdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Sy wrote: Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote: Next major objection then, how can one practically use 'tabs as semantic indentation' without screwing up formatting of code like the below??

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code ('semantic' vs. arbitrary indentation)

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Hansen
On 17 May 2006 16:13:54 -0700 in comp.lang.python, achates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote: The converse can also be said, it's difficult to make sure everyone uses spaces and not tabs. I think we've just about beat this discussion to death... nice work everyone! Yeah -

Re: Python's regular expression?

2006-05-10 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 10 May 2006 06:44:27 GMT in comp.lang.python, Edward Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would I recommend perl for readable, maintainable code? No, not when better options like Python are available. But it can be done with some effort. I'm reminded of a comment made a few years ago by

Re: multiline strings and proper indentation/alignment

2006-05-10 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:56:52 GMT in comp.lang.python, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bruno at modulix wrote: Why not trying by yourself ?-) Doh! I always forget I can do this! :) Mmm. Not good. Let's try again: print textwrap.dedent(s).strip() this is a multiline triple-quted

Re: multiline strings and proper indentation/alignment

2006-05-10 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 10 May 2006 15:50:38 GMT in comp.lang.python, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: print textwrap.dedent(s).strip().replace('\n',' ') this is a multiline triple-quted string with indentation for nicer code formatting But I have some newlines that are already

Re: Tuple assignment and generators?

2006-05-05 Thread Dave Hansen
On 5 May 2006 05:23:24 -0700 in comp.lang.python, vdrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you telling us that you *had* read that doc, and tripped because it says depending on the implementation, when it should say at the choice of the implementation ? no. let's see, where to start ... ? let's say

Re: simultaneous assignment

2006-05-04 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 02 May 2006 18:52:48 GMT in comp.lang.python, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Yeah, after trying some crazy things, I just wrote it this way: def truth_test(seq): truth = 0 for item in seq: if item: truth += 1 if truth == 1:

Re: A defense for bracket-less code

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:20:57 -0400 in comp.lang.python, Don Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found in a style guide (http://www.artlogic.com/careers/styleguide.html) --- Another case where unnecessary braces should be used is when

Re: do while loop

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:41:04 +0200 in comp.lang.python, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ? wrote: suggest add do while loop in later version Please also suggest a clean syntax for this. :-) while 1: do_loop_stuff() if time_to_leave(): break

Re: how to append to a list twice?

2006-04-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On 21 Apr 2006 12:50:38 -0700 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't get it (the Elliot solution)... How is it that the first value is repeated once times, and the remaining values are repeated twice times? Integer division truncates. 200/2 - 100, 199/2 - 99, 198/2 - 99, etc.

Re: How do you guys print out a binary tree?

2006-04-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:17:22 -0700 (PDT) in comp.lang.python, Anthony Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- bayerj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, 1 2 3 4 5 0 7 8 9 10 0 0 13 14 15 0 0 0 19 20 0 0 0 0 25 Look at the triangle represented by the

Re: Decorators, Identity functions and execution...

2006-04-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:19:25 +1200 in comp.lang.python, Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sybren Stuvel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in I don't care about how people see my tabs. I use one tab for every indent level, so

Re: converting lists to strings to lists

2006-04-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On 12 Apr 2006 06:53:23 -0700 in comp.lang.python, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i'm doing some udp stuff and receive strings of the form '0.87 0.25 0.79;\n' what i'd need though is a list of the form [0.87 0.25 0.79] i got to the [0:-3] part to obtain a string

Re: Filters like old skool Jive, Fudd, Valspeak... Text transformation in Python

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Hansen
On 5 Apr 2006 13:44:48 -0700 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bruno at modulix wrote: There's a Kant generator example in Dive Into Python: http://diveintopython.org/xml_processing/index.html Thanks Bruno! Perhaps I could modify it to throw in some Hume and Wittgenstein, mix it

Re: Difference between 'is' and '=='

2006-04-03 Thread Dave Hansen
On 3 Apr 2006 10:37:11 -0400 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Smith) wrote: Adam DePrince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just happens that the logical operation (a is b ) - (a == b ) is always True. Only for small values of always. You can always do pathological things with

Re: [CODE] - Python Newcomer Starting with Coding

2006-03-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:05:48 +0200 in comp.lang.python, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bruno at modulix wrote: [...] Look for the Python cookbook (google is your friend). ... http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pythoncook/ sorry, I've not clarified that I mean an free internet resource.

Re: Function params with **? what do these mean?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
On 20 Mar 2006 12:46:43 -0800 in comp.lang.python, J Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry for such a basic question, but I haven't been able to phrase a search that gets me an answer and my books are totally silent on this. I have seen a number of python function defs that take parameters of

Re: Function params with **? what do these mean?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Hansen
On 20 Mar 2006 15:45:36 -0800 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It's harder to explain than understand. Try playing with the following function in the python interpreter: def test(a,b='b', *c, **d

Re: A C-like if statement

2006-02-23 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:04:38 -0700 in comp.lang.python, Bob Greschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] try: i = a.find(3) print It's here: , i except NotFound: print No 3's here Nuts. I guess you're right. It

Re: How would you open this file?

2006-02-23 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:01:32 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] filename = open_file() By the way 'filename' is a pretty bad name, since it contains a file object, not a string. Maybe call it f instead. ('file' is also a bad name because it is the name of a

Re: Mutable numbers

2006-02-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:44:52 +0530 in comp.lang.python, Suresh Jeevanandam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # I am new to python. In python all numbers are immutable. This means there is one object ( a region in the memory ) created every time we do an numeric operation. I hope there should have been

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

2006-02-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:36:50 -0600 in comp.lang.python, Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] When asked to name some interpreted (or scripting) languages, they'll name some off - perl, python, ruby, javascript, basic... They won't say Java. Ask them why Python is interpreted and Java

Re: Python 3000 deat !? Is true division ever coming ?

2006-02-20 Thread Dave Hansen
Caution: bunny trail ahead. Feel free to skip this message, as it contains no useful content whatever... On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:09:02 +1100 in comp.lang.python, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I've never even used Matlab. But I have a calculator. (Actually I have about half a

Re: Merging two lists of data (Pythonic way)

2006-02-17 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:51:24 -0800 in comp.lang.python, SMB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] codes = map(lambda x: x[0], list1) for d in list2: if d['code'] in codes: d['VERIFIED'] = 1 Is this what you were looking

Re: processing limitation in Python

2006-02-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On 14 Feb 2006 08:42:38 -0800 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I un-comment any line in this program below the line where I commented all OK up to this point This program locks up my computer. Hmm. Ctrl-C gets me out just fine. In Idle, at least. Windows

Re: simple math question

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:43:33 -0500 in comp.lang.python, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Salerno wrote: Hi all. I'm just starting out with Python, so I'm a little slow right now. :) Can someone explain to me why the expression 5 / -2 evaluates to -3, especially considering that

Re: how do you pronounce 'tuple'?

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:30:25 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Salerno wrote: [...] I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I

Re: how do you pronounce 'tuple'?

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:30:43 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Peter Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Salerno schrieb: Terry Hancock wrote: So what's a 1-element tuple, anyway? A mople? monople? It does seem like this lopsided pythonic creature (1,) ought to have a name to reflect its ugly,

Re: how do you pronounce 'tuple'?

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:46:26 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:30:25 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Tyoople, toople or tupple depending on who you are, where you grew up and who

Re: invert the order of a string

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:51:11 + in comp.lang.python, rtilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: s = list('some_random_string') print s s.reverse() print s s = ''.join(s) print s Surely there's a better way to do this, right? How about s = some random string print s s = s[::-1] print s HTH,

Re: invert the order of a string

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:03:32 + in comp.lang.python, rtilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: How about s = some random string print s s = s[::-1] print s That looks like Perl, but it works. Makes me wonder with the string module doesn't have a reverse or invert function

Re: is there a better way?

2006-02-10 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:37:59 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Schüle Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie Princehouse wrote: everybody is making this way more complicated than it needs to be. storage = list[:list.index(O)] the question is whether the old list is needed in the future or not if

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-30 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:27:40 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Dan Sommers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:29:20 GMT, Neil Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I'm so used to / for division that ÷ now looks strange. Indeed, I don't think I've used ÷ for division since about 7th grade,

Re: Intro to Pyparsing Article at ONLamp

2006-01-30 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:39:51 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Subich wrote: Using English, because that's the only language I'm fluent in, consider the sentence: The horse raced past the barn fell. It's just one of many garden path sentences,

Re: beta.python.org content

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:28:50 -0800 in comp.lang.python, James Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rocco Moretti wrote: (Not that I like the logo, mind you...) Does anyone? There has to be a better logo! I thought the previous requirement as established by the BDFL was no snakes. These are snakes,

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Hansen
Just a couple half-serious responses to your comment... On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:05:15 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Magnus Lycka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Hancock wrote: That's interesting. I think many people in the West tend to imagine han/kanji characters as archaisms that will disappear

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:11:24 GMT in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: [...] Maybe you would like the unambiguousness of (+ 8 (* 6 2)) or 6 2 * 8 + ? Well, I do like lisp and Forth, but would prefer Python to remain Python. Though it's hard to fit Python into 1k

Re: beta.python.org content

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:33:06 + in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shalabh Chaturvedi wrote: [...] 2. also available as the python-list mailing list Add or a google group (link). It's not a Google Group, it's a Usenet newsgroup. Google merely provides a lousy but

Re: Pulling numbers from ASCII filename not working

2006-01-26 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:39:20 GMT in comp.lang.python, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Jan 2006 12:42:20 -0800, IamIan [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: [...] I tried print repr(filename) and it returned the actual filename: 'n16w099.asc' ,

Re: Match First Sequence in Regular Expression?

2006-01-26 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:26:57 GMT in comp.lang.python, Roger L. Cauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christos Georgiou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Is this what you mean? ^[^a]*(a{3})(?:[^a].*)?$ Close, but the pattern should allow arbitrary sequence of

Re: Creating a more random int?

2006-01-25 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:21:43 - in comp.lang.python, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-01-25, Magnus Lycka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. Since I was a kid, I've heard people say: So you're born on new years day--how unusual. Well, it happens to slightly less than 1/365th of

Re: float formatting

2006-01-25 Thread Dave Hansen
On 25 Jan 2006 11:32:27 -0800 in comp.lang.python, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am a bit stuck with a float formatting issue. What I want to do is print a float to the screen with each line showing one more decimal place. Here is a code snip that may explain it better:

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-24 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:33:16 +0200 in comp.lang.python, Juho Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Fortran 90 allowed , = instead of .GT., .GE. of Fortran 77. But F90 uses ! as comment symbol and therefore need /= instead of != for inequality. I guess just because they wanted. However, it is

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-24 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:09:00 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Once you open your mind for using non-ascii symbols, I'm sure one can find a bunch of useful applications. Variable names could be allowed to be non-ascii, as in XML. Think class names in

Re: a 32 bit number to integer

2006-01-24 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:23:05 -0300 in comp.lang.python, Ricardo Quesada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In python 2.0, this number was an integer: 0x88776655 but in python 2.4 it is a long (every number 0x7fff it is a long) in python 2.4, is there a way to convert that number to a

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-24 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:44:28 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: C uses ! as a unary logical not operator, so != for not equal just seems to follow, um, logically. Consequently, C should have used ! for = and ! for = ... Well, actually

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-24 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:26:16 +1100 in comp.lang.python, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:38:56 -0600, Dave Hansen wrote: The latter, IMHO. Especially variable names. Consider i vs. ì vs. í vs. î vs. ï vs. ... Agreed, but that's the programmer's fault

Re: OT: excellent book on information theory

2006-01-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:04:51 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Mikael Olofsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Hancock wrote: Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UK:Harry smiled vaguely back US:Harry smiled back vaguely Terry Hancock wrote: I know you are pointing out the triviality of

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:06:50 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote] Fuzzyman wrote: [...] In this case : a = ['some string'] b = ['somestring'] a == b False (probably) That depends, the C syntax is like

Re: New Python.org website?

2006-01-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:58:27 -0600 in comp.lang.python, Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] At worst, the cross might be a reference to The Spanish Inquisition, which anyone who knows anything about Python should know is topical. Perhaps, but they wouldn't expect it... Regards,

Re: Python code written in 1998, how to improve/change it?

2006-01-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:27:58 +1300 in comp.lang.python, Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Python has no goto. +1 [...] We want a goto. -1 Regards, -=Dave -- Change is inevitable, progress is not. --

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:03:23 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] a = 1L b = 1L a is b False Python fails to reuse the long integer object. It would be interesting to know why, because it seems to be strange, that in case of integers it does (but not

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Dave Hansen
On 18 Jan 2006 08:41:00 -0800 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuzzyman wrote: I'm not familiar with the C basic datatypes - I assume it has an array or list like object. Would it contain a sequence of poitners to the members ? In which case they would only be equal if the

Re: Indentation/whitespace

2006-01-17 Thread Dave Hansen
On 16 Jan 2006 20:41:24 -0800 in comp.lang.python, thakadu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, thats what you have to do. And that was my original point, you cannot just paste and go, you have to first reformat. My heart bleeds. Regards, -=Dave -- Change is

Re: Indentation/whitespace

2006-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:56:05 +0800 in comp.lang.python, Jon Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Although the below does work, I believe: Verified example: def check_indent(n): if n==4: print You like four spaces elif n==3: print I like three

Re: - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2006-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On 11 Jan 2006 21:30:11 -0800 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: [..] Side note: I don't have a degree, and I interviewed at Google several years ago. I'm about 97% certain that my lack of degree played little role (if any) in my failure to get a job offer. Side note: I have

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:50 -0800 in comp.lang.python, bblais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Let me start by saying that I am coming from a background using Matlab (or Octave), and C++. I am going to outline the basic nuts-and-bolts I generally write C code for embedded controllers. of how I

Re: - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2006-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On 12 Jan 2006 16:16:58 -0800 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, FWIW, I don't think I could convince my wife (or myself) to move to CullyFORNya for any amount of money, whether there was a massage

Re: What is the slickest way to transpose a square list of lists (tuple of tuples)?

2006-01-09 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:27:55 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Gerard Brunick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My way is ugly. These has to be a better way. This may not be the slickest way, but I needed some practice with list comprehensions (I've never really gotten used to them...) This works with lists.

Re: How to create a script that list itself ?

2006-01-09 Thread Dave Hansen
On 9 Jan 2006 10:09:19 -0800 in comp.lang.python, Patrick Allaire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to create a script that list itself ? Stealing from the old C chestnut: s=s=%c%s%c;print s%%(34,s,34);print s%(34,s,34) I would like to know, where is the script's code is stored once we start it.

Re: What's wrong with this code snippet?

2006-01-05 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 01:14:43 + (UTC) in comp.lang.python, Karlo Lozovina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure what rn is, but it looks like a standard library random.Random object. If so, I don't think you want to seed your

Re: What's wrong with this code snippet?

2006-01-04 Thread Dave Hansen
You've received good answers to your original question. Just a side issue... On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:19:27 + (UTC) in comp.lang.python, Karlo Lozovina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] def GenerateRandomColour(): rn.seed() colour = rn.choice(['C', 'P', 'Z']) return

Re: problem adding list values

2005-12-22 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:43:15 GMT in comp.lang.python, David M. Synck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] temp = float(raw_input(Please enter the first credit \n)) while temp != 0: credlist.append(temp) temp = float(raw_input(Please enter the next credit \n)) Here you're

Re: parsing engineering symbols

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:10:21 +0530 in comp.lang.python, Suresh Jeevanandam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [re: SI prefixes] Exactly what I wanted. It would be nice if the standard float function takes care of these. No, it wouldn't. Regards, -=Dave --

Re: type error on porting outfile.write

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:11:01 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Eric McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ported my code from the development to application platform, I found a type error on a fileout statement: outfile.write(object.id +,) What is the type of object.id? I'm

Re: How to check if a string is an int?

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:41:34 +1100 in comp.lang.python, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Well, let's find out, shall we? [...] A small but consistent speed advantage to the try...except block. Having said all that, the speed difference are absolutely trivial, less than 0.1

Re: How to check if a string is an int?

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On 21 Dec 2005 14:36:32 -0800 in comp.lang.python, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a third choice which is the natural and obvious one: have the function do what its name indicates. Return true if the arg is a digit and false otherwise. If iterating over the whole string is

Re: Guido at Google

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:14:16 -0600 in comp.lang.python, Rocco Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] 15 meters (150 decimeter, 1500 cm, etc ...) 590 inches 49 feet 16 yards 0.0093 miles 0.008 nautical miles 3 rods 0.075 furlongs 1800 barleycorns 147.63 hands 66 spans 33 cubits 13 ells 8.2 fathoms

Re: How to create linked list automatically

2005-12-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:51:39 + in comp.lang.python, Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't the time (or inclination) to sort out all your problems here, but one thing jumps out at me: On 12/19/05, Shahriar Shamil Uulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: class Node: def

Re: ?: in Python

2005-12-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:16:23 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Lawrence Oluyede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Il 2005-12-14, Andy Leszczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: How can do elegantly in Python: if condition: a=1 else: a=2 like in C: a=condition?1:2 There are tons of threads on

Re: Why and how there is only one way to do something?

2005-12-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:57:18 + in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Would you say do: suite while condition or what? Basically do ... while and do ... until most naturally put the Works for me, though I wouldn't cry if the while was changed

Re: Tuples

2005-12-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On 15 Dec 2005 09:19:37 -0800 in comp.lang.python, Tuvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's say I make a program something like follows: x=[] x.append([1,2,3]) x.append([4,5,6]) print x print x[0] print x[0][1] x[0][1]=5 Okay, everything works here as expected except the last line. Why won't this

Re: Question about tuple lengths

2005-12-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:58:16 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Jean-Paul Calderone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It's the comma that makes it a tuple. The parenthesis are only required in cases where the expression might mean something else without them. That's almost true. Consider: t2 = (1,2)

Re: PHP = Perl Improved

2005-12-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:25:08 GMT in comp.lang.python, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The design of the PHP language is not too bad, and the standard library is extensive. It is quite possible to write well-structured, class-based web programs with PHP. However, it seems that almost

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-08 Thread Dave Hansen
On 8 Dec 2005 08:17:14 GMT in comp.lang.python, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I just think braces are the worst solution for it, as python is concerned. Agreed. A model like Modula-2's would be much preferable, and in fact is supported (but not enforced) today (as long as you

Re: Bitching about the documentation...

2005-12-08 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:33:07 -0600 in comp.lang.python, Rocco Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] fred where guido had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the reader I've seen this before as bill had had had but will had had had had had had or had had been correct

Re: Why my modification of source file doesn't take effect when debugging?

2005-12-05 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:04:15 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: infidel a écrit : I'm using the Windows version of Python and IDLE. When I debug my .py file, my modification to the .py file does not seem to take effect unless I restart IDLE. Saving the file and

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread Dave Hansen
On 2 Dec 2005 10:08:21 -0800 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is again... Python bypassed/discounted because, of all things, scoping by indentation!?!? This used to surprise me. Until I hear more and more otherwise reasonable programmers list this as their number one

Re: Python as Guido Intended

2005-11-30 Thread Dave Hansen
On 30 Nov 2005 10:57:04 GMT in comp.lang.python, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-11-29, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You see, you can make languages more powerful by *removing* things from it. You cast this in way to general terms.

Re: Quene

2005-11-30 Thread Dave Hansen
On 30 Nov 2005 09:38:44 -0800 in comp.lang.python, Tuvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to write a function that holds a variable-length quene. The quene has 2 bits of information. At some point, I would like to remove bits of this quene, when they are completed. Is there a way to do this

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