On Mar 15, 12:24 pm, booklover bnsm...@gmail.com wrote:
Is everyone really happy with this?
I'm not happy with this. In fact, if Python 3.3 came out with a
solution for this problem, it would be a major motivation for me to
migrate.
I don't think that it would take much to fix either.
On Mar 16, 7:42 am, booklover bnsm...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm going to try to get our solution open-sourced, then I'll get your
feedback on it.
Thanks bukzor! I think that it would be very helpful to have a library
like this available.
In the longer term, what do people think about
On Mar 15, 11:57 pm, eryksun () eryk...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:44:48 AM UTC-4, bukzor wrote:
Currently it requires either: 1) no symlinks to scripts or 2)
installation of the pathtools to site-packages.
An executable with a unique name on the system PATH could
On Mar 16, 3:29 pm, bukzor workithar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mar 15, 11:57 pm, eryksun () eryk...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:44:48 AM UTC-4, bukzor wrote:
Currently it requires either: 1) no symlinks to scripts or 2)
installation of the pathtools to site-packages
On Mar 13, 10:52 pm, eryksun () eryk...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:27:47 PM UTC-4, bukzor wrote:
e) create custom boilerplate in each script that addresses the
issues in a-d. This seems to be the best practice at the moment...
The boilerplate should be pretty simple
On Mar 13, 6:50 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 3/13/2011 7:27 PM, bukzor wrote:
I think this touches on my core problem. It's dead simple (and
natural) to use .py files simultaneously as both scripts and
libraries, as long as they're in a flat organization (all piled
the package directory.
Wait, this won't work when the script is linked to from somewhere else, which
means the code still has to be based on __file__ or sys.argv[0] or
sys.path[0], and have to get the absolute/real path in case it's a link.
Along those lines, you (bukzor) wrote that
What I do
On Mar 12, 12:01 pm, eryksun () eryk...@gmail.com wrote:
bukzor wrote:
This only works if you can edit the PYTHONPATH. With thousands of
users and dozens of groups each with their own custom environments,
this is a herculean effort.
... I don't think it's recommended to directly run
On Mar 12, 12:37 pm, Tim Johnson t...@johnsons-web.com wrote:
* Phat Fly Alanna flannelsau...@gmail.com [110312 07:22]:
We've been doing a fair amount of Python scripting, and now we have a
directory with almost a hundred loosely related scripts. It's
obviously time to organize this,
On Mar 11, 10:14 pm, eryksun () eryk...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not an expert at Python packaging, but assuming a structure such as
folder1
\
__init__.py
module1.py
folder2
\
__init__.py
module2.py
within module1, I can import from module2,
We've been doing a fair amount of Python scripting, and now we have a
directory with almost a hundred loosely related scripts. It's
obviously time to organize this, but there's a problem. These scripts
import freely from each other and although code reuse is generally a
good thing it makes it
On Oct 15, 4:30 pm, bukzor workithar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 13, 3:20 pm, Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar
wrote:
En Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:38:44 -0300, Buck workithar...@gmail.com escribió:
The only way to get your packages on the PYTHONPATH currently is to:
* install
On Oct 13, 3:20 pm, Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar
wrote:
En Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:38:44 -0300, Buck workithar...@gmail.com escribió:
The only way to get your packages on the PYTHONPATH currently is to:
* install the packages to site-packages (I don't have access)
* edit the
I would assume that putting scripts into a folder with the aim of re-
using pieces of them would be called a package, but since this is an
anti-pattern according to Guido, apparently I'm wrong-headed here.
(Reference: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2007-April/006793.html
)
Say you
so unfortunately I think I need to use __getattribute__
to do this. I'm doing all this just to make the connection not
actually connect until used.
I may be dumb, but I don't get how this is supposed to solve your
problem. But anyway : there's a known design pattern for what you're
I'd like to be able to do something like this:
class SuperCursor(FeatureOneMixIn, FeatureTwoMixin, ...,
VanillaCursor): pass
Why does it have to look like that? A good programmer lets the code
look however it has to look to most effectively do it's job.
With a proxy, the base class
I want to make a MixIn class that waits to initialize its super-
classes until an attribute of the object is accessed. Not generally
useful, but desirable in my case. I've written this, and it works, but
would like to take any suggestions you guys have. I've commented out
the delattr call because
On Sep 3, 12:19 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers
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bukzor a écrit :
I want to make a MixIn class that waits to initialize its super-
classes until an attribute of the object is accessed. Not generally
useful, but desirable in my case. I've written this, and it works
On Sep 3, 1:02 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bukzor a écrit :
(snip)
Thanks for the reply. Just to see it not work, I tried to remove
__getattribute__ from LateInitMixIn, but couldn't get it to work.
??? Sorry, I don't get what you mean...
Since you said
On Aug 4, 1:13 pm, Daniel Fetchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've been working on a python web framework which I think might be of
interest to you.
Details may be found athttp://code.google.com/p/keg/wiki/Concept.
All suggestions or comments will be greatly appreciated.
I fail to see
On Jul 26, 7:08 am, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:07:52 +1000
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sys.stdout = n
Re-binds the name 'sys.stdout' to the object already referenced by the
name 'n'. No objects are changed by this; only bindings of names
On Jul 26, 9:19 am, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bukzor wrote:
from os.path import abspath, realpath
realpath(path.__file__.rstrip(c))
'/home/bgolemon/python/symlinks/path.py'
realpath(abspath(path.__file__.rstrip(c)))
'/home/bgolemon/python/symlinks/symlinks/path.py'
--
http
On Jul 28, 10:34 am, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 26, 9:19 am, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bukzor wrote:
from os.path import abspath, realpath
realpath(path.__file__.rstrip(c))
'/home/bgolemon/python/symlinks/path.py'
realpath(abspath(path.__file__.rstrip(c
I have to go into these convulsions to get the directory that the
script is in whenever I need to use relative paths. I was wondering if
you guys have a better way:
from os.path import dirname, realpath, abspath
here = dirname(realpath(abspath(__file__.rstrip(c
In particular, this takes care
I was trying to change the behaviour of print (tee all output to a
temp file) by inheriting from file and overwriting sys.stdout, but it
looks like print uses C-level stuff to do its writes which bypasses
the python object/inhertiance system. It looks like I need to use
composition instead of
On Jul 12, 8:44 pm, Amir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you filter keyword arguments before passing them to a function?
For example:
def f(x=1): return x
def g(a, **kwargs): print a, f(**kwargs)
In [5]: g(1, x=3)
1 3
In [6]: g(1, x=3, y=4)
TypeError: f() got an unexpected keyword
On Jul 13, 1:14 am, Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:23 PM, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm connecting to an apache2 process on the same machine,
for testing. When looking at netstat, the socket is in the SYN_SENT
state, like this:
$netstat -a -tcp
tcp
On Jul 13, 1:08 pm, Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:14 am, Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:23 PM, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm connecting to an apache2 process on the same machine
On Jul 13, 4:21 pm, Kless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need a dictionary where get the result from a 'key' (on left), but
also from a 'value' (on right), how to get it?
I know that dictionaries aren't bidirectional, but is there any way
without use two dictionaries?
Thanks in advance!
You
On Jul 13, 6:31 pm, Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 8:35 PM, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem only manifests about 1 in 20 runs. Below there's code for
a client that shows the problem 100% of the time.
The two URL's that I seem to be confused about point
On Jul 13, 6:53 pm, Larry Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bukzor:
You need to use two dictionaries. Here's a class that someone's
written that wraps it up into a single dict-like object for you:
http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/4376
It contains
On Jul 12, 7:08 pm, Marcus Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone explain to me, why the behaviour below is different when u
remark lister and unremark self.lister?
#--
class abc :
# remark this later and unremark self.lister
tcp0 0 *:www *:*
LISTEN 7635/apache2
tcp0 1 bukzor:38234adsl-75-61-84-249.d:www
SYN_SENT9139/python
Anyone know a general reason this might happen? Even better, a way to
fix it?
Doing a minimal amount of research, I found
On Jun 14, 6:28 am, saneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read that Python is a platform independent language. But on this
page:
http://docs.python.org/tut/node4.html#SECTION00422
it seems that making a python script executable is platform dependant:
2.2.2 Executable
It seems that whenever I have an application that uses a database
(MySQL) I end up writing a database framework from scratch. Is there
some accepted pre-existing project that has done this?
I see Django, but that seems to have a lot of web-framework that I
don't (necessarily) need. I just want to
On Jun 14, 10:43 am, Larry Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bukzor wrote:
It seems that whenever I have an application that uses a database
(MySQL) I end up writing a database framework from scratch. Is there
some accepted pre-existing project that has done this?
I see Django
On Jun 8, 12:52 pm, kj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Tolonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
import os
print os.path.abspath(__file__)
Great. Thanks!
Kynn
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NOTE: In my address everything before the first period is backwards;
and the last period, and everything after
On Jun 8, 2:17 pm, kj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a Perlhead trying to learn the Way of Python. I like Python
overall, but every once in a while I find myself trying to figure
out why Python does some things the way it does. At the moment
I'm scratching my head over Python's docstrings. As
On Jun 8, 11:43 am, Iain Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am new to python. I have been having trouble using the MysqlDB. I
get an error pointing from the line
cursor.execute(UPDATE article SET title = %s, text = %s WHERE id =
%u, (self.title, self.text, self.id))
Here is the error:
On Jun 5, 11:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Hank @ITGroup
I am writing this letter to unsubscribe this mail-address from python
mail-list.
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No problem, Hank. You will be officially off of this
I've been finding at work that I've written a set of functions several
times, sometimes with more or less features or bugs, so I've decided
to take my small, useful functions and put them in some common place.
I've made a module for this, but it is quickly becoming a jumbled mess
of unrelated
On Jun 5, 5:58 pm, alex23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 6, 10:32 am, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In summary: are there any good (or official) guidelines for how to
organize and separate python functions and classes into modules?
Hey bukzor,
Are you familiar with the concept
I have this function:
def write_err(obj):
from sys import stderr
stderr.write(str(obj)+\n)
and I'd like to rewrite it to take a variable number of objects.
Something like this:
def write_err(*objs):
from sys import stderr
stderr.write( .join(objs)+\n)
but I lose the
On Jun 2, 2:56 pm, jay graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:02 pm, Larry Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think what you want is:
def write_err(*args):
from sys import stderr
stderr.write(\n.join([str(o) for o in args]))
Slight nitpick. If you are using version = 2.4
On May 23, 1:17 pm, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 23, 12:35 pm, inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wish this worked: def main(a,b,*argv): pass
options['argv'] = argv
main(**options)
TypeError: main() got an unexpected keyword argument 'argv'
-
I was thinking
On May 23, 6:31 pm, Yosifov Pavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does somebody know existent tool for checking unhandled exceptions?
Like in Java when method throws exception but in code using this
method, try...catch is missed. May be something like PyChecker?
--
/Pavel
I know that pychecker
On May 23, 10:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 24 Maj, 07:01, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 24 Maj, 05:48, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Can you tell us exactly which programs you mean when you say the
shell and the commandprompt?
On May 23, 7:00 pm, alex23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 24, 7:14 am, nayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the execution fails just after the print statement, and I am not quite
sure why is that.
It's often helpful to include the traceback, or at the very least the
last 3-4 lines of it, as
On May 23, 3:44 pm, Joel Koltner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in messagenews:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try all three of them, in sequence:
Thanks, will do.
If you absolutely don't want to import test, write
I can live with the import, I just don't want to
On May 22, 5:39 pm, inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1
2
actually, you don't want it to print 3 also? if not, then you would do
f(*map(kwargs.get, inspect.getargspec(f)[0])+args[:1])
import inspect
f(*map(kwargs.get, inspect.getargspec(f)[0])+args)
No, that was a typo. Thanks tho.
On May 22, 5:29 pm, inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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This question seems easy but I can't figure it out.
Lets say there's a function:
def f(a, *args):
print a
for b in args: print b
and elsewhere in your
On May 23, 3:29 am, inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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if we assume the constraints are that:
1.he has list, l
2.he has a dictionary, d
3.he wants the function to print the values in the dictionary according to
a specific
On May 23, 3:29 am, inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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if we assume the constraints are that:
1.he has list, l
2.he has a dictionary, d
3.he wants the function to print the values in the dictionary according to
a specific
On May 23, 12:35 pm, inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wish this worked: def main(a,b,*argv): pass
options['argv'] = argv
main(**options)
TypeError: main() got an unexpected keyword argument 'argv'
-
I was thinking about that exact same thing actually. Except that I was
thinking
This question seems easy but I can't figure it out.
Lets say there's a function:
def f(a, *args):
print a
for b in args: print b
and elsewhere in your program you have a list and a dict like this:
args = [2, 3]
kwargs = {'a':1}
I'd like to get f() to print something like the following,
On May 22, 12:07 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:56:38 -0700, bukzor wrote:
On May 21, 5:37 pm, Nikhil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if os.path.exists('file'):
open('file', 'w').close()
Right?
You only want to blank it if it exists
In Python 3, backticks (``) are being removed. The plan is to create
an automatic way to port python2 programs to python3, so my question
is:
What are backticks going to be translated into? I tried looking at the
2to3 fixer source code, but as far as I can tell they haven't written
that part yet.
On May 21, 10:48 am, Jonathan Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On May 21, 10:45 am, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What are backticks going to be translated into?
repr
Thanks for the quick reply!
--Buck
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Does anyone have a pythonic way to check if a process is dead, given
the pid?
This is the function I'm using is quite OS dependent. A good candidate
might be try: kill(pid), since it throws an exception if the pid is
dead, but that sends a signal which might interfere with the process.
Thanks.
On May 21, 11:38 am, Mark Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On SuSE 10.2/Xeon there seems to be a rounding bug for
floating-point addition:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ python
Python 2.5 (r25:51908, May 25 2007, 16:14:04)
[GCC 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux)] on linux2
Type help,
On May 21, 12:13 pm, Roy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have a pythonic way to check if a process is dead, given
the pid?
This is the function I'm using is quite OS dependent. A good candidate
might be try
On May 21, 1:27 pm, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 21, 12:13 pm, Roy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have a pythonic way to check if a process is dead, given
the pid?
This is the function I'm
On May 21, 4:33 pm, Karlo Lozovina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
André [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote innews:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How about something like the following (untested)
done = False
while not done:
try:
some_function()
done = True
except:
some_function2()
On May 21, 3:28 pm, Dave Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 21, 4:21 pm, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which is exactly what the python decimal module does.
Thank you (and Jerry Hill) for pointing that out. If I want to check
Flaming Thunder's results against an independent
On May 21, 5:10 pm, Giampaolo Rodola' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 22 Mag, 01:15, Nikhil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what are the simple ways?
I could think of os.open(), os.exec(touch file)
are there any simpler methods?
Just use os.path.exists to check for file existence and open() as
On May 21, 5:37 pm, Nikhil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bukzor wrote:
On May 21, 5:10 pm, Giampaolo Rodola' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 22 Mag, 01:15, Nikhil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what are the simple ways?
I could think of os.open(), os.exec(touch file)
are there any simpler methods
On Apr 2, 8:33 pm, Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bukzor wrote:
Can someone point me in the direction of a good solution of this? I'm
using it to construct a SQL query compiler,
Given a directed graph and a list of points in the graph, what is the
minimal subgraph
Can someone point me in the direction of a good solution of this? I'm
using it to construct a SQL query compiler, where each node is a table
and each edge is a join. I'm planning on using the NetworkX library if
possible.
https://networkx.lanl.gov/reference/networkx/
Given a directed graph and a
On Apr 1, 3:46 pm, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone point me in the direction of a good solution of this? I'm
using it to construct a SQL query compiler, where each node is a table
and each edge is a join. I'm planning on using the NetworkX library if
possible.https
On Jan 5, 5:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 5, 9:50 pm, Paul Hankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 5, 5:12 pm, Paul Hankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 5, 4:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 5, 5:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello, Paul and Arnaud.
/node10.html
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On Jan 6, 3:33 pm, Bjoern Schliessmann usenet-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
grep doesn't delete lines. grep matches lines. If you want to
delete them, you still have to do the rest of the job yourself.
In which way does grep -v mypattern myfile myfile not delete the
On Jan 5, 9:12 am, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any other ideas?
How about this:
def random_pick(list, property):
L = len(list)
pos = start = random.randrange(L)
while 1:
x = list[pos]
if property(x): return x
pos = (pos + 1) % L
On Jan 5, 8:14 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 5, 5:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello, Paul and Arnaud.
While I think about your answers: do you think there is any way to
avoid shuffle?
It may take unnecessary long on a long list most of whose elements
have the property.
On Jan 4, 2:15 pm, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:29:50 -0800, bukzor wrote:
Why cant you implement for complex numbers? Maybe I'm being naive, but
isn't this the normal definition?
a + bi c + di iff sqrt(a**2 + b**2) sqrt(c**2, d
On Jan 3, 7:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi, i have some code where i set a bool type variable and if the value
is false i would like to return from the method with an error msg..
being a beginner I wd like some help here
class myclass:
.
def mymethod(self):
On Jan 4, 8:51 am, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 3, 7:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi, i have some code where i set a bool type variable and if the value
is false i would like to return from the method with an error msg..
being a beginner I wd like some help here
class
On Jan 4, 9:08 am, Sion Arrowsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW if you're using C++, why not simply use std::set?
Because ... how to be polite about this? No, I can't. std::set is
crap. The implementation is a sorted sequence -- if you're lucky,
this
Is there any way to print the docstring of the including module? I'd
like to be able to do something like the following
file one.py:
some docstring
include two
file two.py:
from magicmodule import getincluder
print getincluder().__doc__
Running one.py would print the docstring.
Thanks!
On Jan 2, 4:52 pm, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any way to print the docstring of the including module? I'd
like to be able to do something like the following
file one.py:
some docstring
include two
file two.py:
from magicmodule import getincluder
print getincluder().__doc__
On Dec 30 2007, 11:01 pm, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:00:14 -0800, bukzor wrote:
I think you struck at the heart of the matter earlier when you noted
that this is the simplest way to declare a static variable in python.
Using
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On Dec 29, 9:14 pm, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's the answer to the
question:http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general/#why-are-default-values-shared-...
It looks like Guido disagrees with me, so the discussion is closed.
Note that the FAQ mainly
On Jan 1, 9:00 am, bukzor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 31 2007, 1:30 pm, Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 31, 2007 2:08 PM, Odalrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 31 Dec, 18:22, Arnaud Delobelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Dec 30, 2:23 am, thebjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Scenario: long running server process,
Bug report: people aren't getting older, Code:
def age(dob, today=datetime.date.today()):
...
A very interesting example, thanks.
On Dec 30, 8:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a
On Dec 30, 12:32 pm, Istvan Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 30, 11:26 am, George Sakkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm with you on this one; IMHO it's one of the relatively few language
design missteps of Python, favoring the rare case as the default
instead of the common one.
On Dec 30, 3:34 pm, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:41:57 -0800, bukzor wrote:
BTW, it's silly not to 'allow' globals when they're called for,
otherwise we wouldn't need the 'global' keyword.
Nobody argues against allowing globals variables
I've found some bizzare behavior when using mutable values (lists,
dicts, etc) as the default argument of a function. I want to get the
community's feedback on this. It's easiest to explain with code.
This example is trivial and has design issues, but it demonstrates a
problem I've seen in
Here's the answer to the question:
http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general/#why-are-default-values-shared-between-objects
It looks like Guido disagrees with me, so the discussion is closed.
For the record, I still think the following would be an improvement to
py3k:
In python25:
def f(a=None):
I think that this behaviour is a little unintuitive, and by a little I
mean a lot.
Thanks for acknowledging it.
I question that it is much more common. How do you know? Where's your
data?
I did a dumb grep of my Python25/Lib folder and found 33 occurances of
the first pattern above. (Use
Just for completeness, the mutable default value problem also affects
classes:
class c:
def __init__(self, list = []):
self.list = list
self.list.append(LIST END)
def __repr__(self):
return Class a: %s % self.list
import example2
print example2.c()
Class a:
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