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one or default_value
or:
self.name = default_value if name is None or name
because "is" checks for identity, whereas "==" and True-thy encompass a
range of possible alternate values?
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roup_identifier,
self.owner_base = config_access()
)
If you know my style/preferences, notice that I'm breaking my own 'rule'
of using named-parameters in preference to positional-parameters when
there are three or more. However, this *may* be one of those exceptions
(cf ho
be a class-attribute (it is currently an instance.
Then, code AFTER the definition of Lookup can refer to Lookup.cache,
regardless of instantiation, and code within Lookup can refer to
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globals and the implicit assumptions about the behavior of mutable
collections (eg lists) when treated as 'global'. Then there are
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dn wrote:
On 18/02/24 09:53, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-02-17, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote:
On 16Feb2024 22:12, Chris Green wrote:
I'm looking for a simple way to make NaN values output as something
like
standard library modules
and site-packages) is modified with that function.
Final code is here:
https://github.com/mivdnber/formathack
Some of this (Expression components inside f-strings) newly available in
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comprehension; but doubt I can express anything better than the
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Has the OP stated if we're talking 'Python' or numpy, pandas, ...?
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class S:
(not disputing the concept of "object" as the base class)
Not correct.
Please see last paragraph from previous message:
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quot;Nowadays, the Singleton pattern has become so popular that
people may call something a singleton even if it solves just one of the
listed problems." (https://refactoring.guru/design-patterns/singleton)
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aim was to see if
posts to comp.lang.python traverse the gateway and show up on this list,
then alt.test won't help.
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along with a description of what's going-wrong or not ma
On 15/01/24 21:13, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 15/01/24 1:54 pm, dn wrote:
Soon after, Wirth simplified rather than expanded, and developed Pascal.
Before Pascal there was Algol-W, which Wirth invented as a rebellion
against how complicated Algol 68 was becoming.
When I first saw
On 15/01/24 14:45, Chris Angelico wrote:
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On 15/01/24 14:33, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 12:12, dn via Python-list wrote:
Here's another witticism I'll often toss at trainees (in many languages
On 15/01/24 14:33, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 12:12, dn via Python-list wrote:
Here's another witticism I'll often toss at trainees (in many languages,
and especially in UX): just because we can do it, doesn't make it a good
idea!
Programming. We were so
On 15/01/24 11:47, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 09:40, dn via Python-list wrote:
The basic challenge came from my earlier (and blasé) repetition of the
Python refrain "everything in Python is an object". Which led to:
...
So, no, there's an "ev
do with the 'walrus-operator'?
PS our interlocutor doesn't like colloquialisms such as these - despite
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ython, at run-time, is an
object"? As a phrase it is obiter-dictum, not ratio decidendi! (to use a
language which has only extended in dubious modes for the last
couple-of-thousand years - but which still has illogical structure)
Suspect that clumsy exclusion also lacks precision to the standard being
demanded. Thus return to the suggestion that you seem in the wrong
place, because Python doesn't meet the required standard. Sorry!
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ps://docs.python.org/3/reference/compound_stmts.html#the-for-statement
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/simple_stmts.html#grammar-token-python-grammar-target_list
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/compound_stmts.html#function-definitions
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On 14/01/24 16:48, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 at 14:43, dn via Python-list wrote:
Similarly, whilst we could write:
a, b, c = 1, 2, 3
I would only do this when it aligns particularly well with the
algorithm being implemented. For example, you could start a Fibonacci
make it more readable and more comprehensible.
Since it looks like you are doing this for educational reasons, I
think there's a tiny bit of value to my effort.
That's what we're (all) here for!
(and not forgetting that the OP described a skill-level well below that
of most of this post and your question, which enabled (and deserved,
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* code
""" PythonExperiments:rich.py
Demonstrate string extraction.
"""
__author__ = "dn, IT Consultant"
__python__ = "3.12"
__created__ = "PyCharm, 14 Jan 2024"
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bably a step too far
wrt the CoC)
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those three steps, if there's something that's
still mystifying, please refine the question...
Web.Refs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collation
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html?highlight=comparison#value-comparisons
https://docs.python.org/3/howto/sorting.html?highlight=so
ereafter...).
"But wait, there's more!"
(assuming implement as-above):
if 0 <= ts_reading < 400:
1 consistent 'direction' of the comparisons = readability
2 able to "chain" the comparisons = convenience
3 identifier is PEP-008-compliant = quality and style
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, of course.
It would be safer if you used literal_eval.
Ah, memories of Python2...
Does this little hack still work?
What about True/False cf true/false?
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l mashed together?
Yes, what changed after removal of all the .append()-s, and instead,
within the (second) for-loop print( school, name, ... ) was used?
Is it easier to go on from there?
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Is there a change from python2 to python3?
Works for me (Python 3.11 on Fedora-Linux 37)
- both as a script, and simple/single import.
What happens when you extract the second dimension's definitions into a
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somewhere, will 'break'?
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Thus, what you might expect from email servers and Admins, NOT what you
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some large businesses doing what you've outlined. They have
not solved this problem - and not through lack of trying!
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cular line isn't working.
Will need more context. What is the objective? What is the
source/pre-processing of these data-items. (etc)
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neither to the list-archive.
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class has
not yet been fully defined) - see
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, "do one thing, and do it well", Law of
Demeter, ...)
Personal comment: my habit is to break specs into many classes and
functions - sometimes more-so than others might prefer. Cannot recall
when last had that hard-to-locate bug of unwittingly re-using a name/alias.
(apologies: not a boast - a recommendation for going modular)
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On 04/10/2023 19.41, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 at 15:27, dn via Python-list wrote:
- should the class have been called either;
class SomethingSingleton():
or a Singleton() class defined, which is then sub-classed, ie
class Something( Singleton
ve
complications present in C++. It further discusses "several drawbacks",
which also champion 'readability' over 'trick' or 'sophistication'. I
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On 01/10/2023 11.25, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote:
Am Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 09:04:05AM +1300 schrieb dn via Python-list:
class WorkingSingleton(Borg):
def __init__(self):
print(self.__class__.__name__, ':')
try
nt (see @Mats' response).
Question: is it a legal expression (without the typing)?
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I notice when the
project is based upon an older system!
FYI
https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/installing-uninstalling-and-reloading-interpreter-paths.html
(I'd be surprised if the other major tool-sets don't offer something
similar)
Disclaimer: JetBrains sponsor our local PUG-
/sunset-python-2/)
- were this code to be written using today's libraries, it is unlikely
to look anything like this
(which may also be contributing to the dearth of replies)
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On 24/08/2023 03.41, Jason Friedman via Python-list wrote:
with Database() as mydb:
conn = mydb.get_connection()
cursor = conn.get_cursor()
cursor.execute("update table1 set x = 1 where y = 2")
cursor.close()
cursor = conn.
y = 2" )
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le" (the whole module is imported regardless, IIRC),
however it does form an "interface" and thus recommend leaning into the
"Interface Segregation Principle", or as our InfoSec brethren would say
'the principle of least privilege'. Accordingly, prefer "from ... import
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EuroPython
and/or PyConUS - and then same for smaller gatherings.
(would suggest to ours, but those folk are already over-loaded to be
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paste step, per above?
(and need for my assumption of where the error is located)
Hope you've exerted copyright over the "clairvoyant" description!
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On 05/08/2023 11.18, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 at 09:08, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 03/08/2023 11.38, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-08-02, dn wrote:
Can you please explain why a multi-part second-argument must be a tuple
and not any other form
On 03/08/2023 11.38, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-08-02, dn wrote:
Can you please explain why a multi-part second-argument must be a tuple
and not any other form of collection-type?
The following comment may hold a clue:
if (PyTuple_Check(cls)) {
/* Not a general
t at the C-level
(https://docs.python.org/3/c-api/frame.html?highlight=frame#c.PyFrameObject)
of the virtual-machine - where typing is not a 'thing'.
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isinstance#isinstance
https://docs.python.org/3/c-api/object.html?highlight=isinstance#c.PyObject_IsInstance
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html?highlight=isinstance
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'earlier' functions as parameters to 'later' functions. If any thing
goes wrong (how could it, after all that testing?) it's easier to answer
that famous question: "where is the error?".
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On 22/06/2023 03.28, Pickle Pork via Python-list wrote:
Python is unable to open. Exit Code: 1
This is not good.
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- from where did you download Python?
- which operating system?
- how do you "open" Python?
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uot;, rather than overloading the latter.
That said, apparently the OP use-case is for when there is no interest
in status/catch, eg where a 'nothing' answer is THE answer.
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On 16/06/2023 23.47, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 6/16/2023 1:40 AM, dn via Python-list wrote:
Have you figured-out a use for the @enum.member and @enum.nonmember
decorators (new in Python 3.11)?
mypy is having trouble with 3.11 enums:
"There are 83 open Enum mypy i
hen it is needed. Similarly, it could use the other
values within the enum in order to present some 'combination'.
Weirdly (given that enums are considered immutable) I imagine that if
the 'extra_member' were to call some external function with varying
output, the value could be considered mutable when it is eventually called.
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small part of the total.
I don't use one, but others enthuse about ORMs, eg SQLAlchemy. This
suits those who combine RDBMS and OOP, and has its own persistence
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ption - not stated in OP),
and thus cannot vouch for the veracity of this advice, nor for its
accuracy - caveat emptor!
Hope one of those sets of ideas will help...
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On 24/05/2023 12.27, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 10:12, dn via Python-list wrote:
However, (continuing @Peter's theme) such confuses things when something
goes wrong - was the error in the input() or in the float()?
- particularly for 'beginners'
- and yes, we can expand
query-result/object. Yes, however contrived and
deliberately drawn-out the example, there is still a difference between
the value which the code first produces (request/input) and that which
eventually settles-out (orm/float).
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"user_record" (according to the way 'that' ORM operates). Perhaps more
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A custom-class wrapper?
Even, a decorator-able function?
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On 05/05/2023 04.28, Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list wrote:
Hi... How do I set Pycharm to find only syntax errors?!!
Please review response to previous message re:configuring PyCharm's
helpful features towards to coders and quality-coding...
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<__main__.Y object at 0x7f9b6bf2c0d0>,), 'kw': {}}
a (<__main__.Y object at 0x7f9b6bf2c0d0>,) 140305507712640
1 <__main__.Y object at 0x7f9b6bf2c0d0>
kw {} 140305507621376
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/dn/Projects/analyzer/lorenzo.py", line 53, in
wit
those braces' (and other punctuation-characters)
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through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through
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*Isaiah 43:2*
On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 11:39:36 AM MDT, dn via Python-list
wrote:
On 20/04/2023 04.25,
ence, I have a convention of when to use apostrophes
and when double-quotes. These old eyes dislike mixing both in a single
expression - but sometimes it is the best course to follow.
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unications and ReplyList -
you may need to do that manually...
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ys it expects ' first (to close the fstring)
then on a new line below it, it mentions the comma and )
I believe that is just showing you after ' it expects you to end the
print with ) as you have
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bute
>>> person.age = 21 # raises AttributeError: can't set attribute
- note the erroneous comments about exceptions being raised
(they weren't/aren't)!
Here's a home-grown version illustrating all the points made during the
investigation, by way of proof/disproof:
""&
or its use. Then, the
application can be relieved of all detail ("give me what I want"), only
asking for whatever it requires, when it requires, and in the format it
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Thank you for carefully considering suggestions (and implications) - and
which will 'work' for you.
Further comment below (and with apologies that, unusually for me, there
are many personal opinions mixed-in):-
On 06/04/2023 01.06, Loris Bennett wrote:
"Loris Bennett" writes:
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the
other, and then go back to the first?
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om/145/solid-principles-with-uncle-bob-robert-c-martin
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/sword+of+Damocles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damocles
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and from which a
suggested-solution may be posted afterwards...
YMMV!
* New Zealand Open Source Society perq of membership
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, may promulgate old habits and a lower-quality (related to the
depth of learning, back-then cf 'now').
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ght, but later (ie when come to make use
of it) realise a better alternative and more descriptive name.
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