Re: Survey: improving the Python std lib docs

A portion of this thread seems to be focusing on what key word args parameters actually mean, in the Python sense. There is documentation for that, and a modicum of experience with Python makes this a relatively simple question and answer. However, when docs for a specific function or method

Re: Survey: improving the Python std lib docs

On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 6:02:58 AM UTC-4, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > One of the more controversial aspects of the Python ecosystem is the Python > docs. Some people love them, and some people hate them and describe them as > horrible. > [...] One thing I would love to see in any function or

Difficulty with ez_setup.py

awhile since I last installed ez_install, and I remember it being a pain, but I don't remember this issue. What am I doing wrong? On a possibly related note, is there a specific place that ez_setup.py is expected to be in when this is run? -- rzed -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Python 3 syntax error question

there's some obvious thing I'm not seeing here. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3 syntax error question

steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote in news:4e074768$0$29982$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com: rzed wrote: I've tried to install PySVG in a Python 3 setting, and I get a few errors on the build. Most are easy to fix, but this one I can't explain or fix: error Traceback (most

Re: ANN: PyGUI 2.5

: No module named distutils_extensions -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Card alternatives?

responses. As is so often the case with Python, there are many options, and many possible approaches to solutions for the same problem. I have some reading to do, I see. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python Card alternatives?

points of interest. I much prefer Python as a language, but Rebol View's layout specifications are wonderfully concise, and the support code seems to be fairly straightforward as well. Has anyone tried to mimic their approach in Python? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Parse config file and command-line arguments, to get a single collection of options

= '' What the program does with the results is up to it, of course. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Purely historic question: VT200 text graphic programming

Anssi Saari a...@sci.fi wrote in news:vg3tyf75eq1@pepper.modeemi.fi: rzed rzan...@gmail.com writes: Did you say was? The last time I did any programming on a VMS system was ... about 5 1/2 hours ago. Our shop runs OpenVMS now, programs mostly in C and BASIC. I've quietly insinuated

Re: Purely historic question: VT200 text graphic programming

. Our shop runs OpenVMS now, programs mostly in C and BASIC. I've quietly insinuated Python into the mix over the last few months, and that has helped my sanity considerably. I did use the curses library with Vax C years ago, though online data entry programs used the SMG library. -- rzed

Re: The Disappearing Program?

. Folder Options . View you should see a checkbox for the Hide extensions for known file types option. Uncheck it, and the disappearing program will return to view. This is a separate issue for why snowball.py executes when you enter snowball at the command line. -- rzed -- http

Re: Raw strings as input from File?

and then translated from octal to get to x08. That's just strange. I'm sure it's documented somewhere, but it's not easy to search for. Oh, and this: '\7' '\x07' '\70' '8' ... is realy odd. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ANN: PyGUI 2.0.5

to signal such an event? Is that a QT or PyQt limitation? -- rzed Groping nearsightedly through the MiaSma... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ANN: PyGUI 2.0.4

David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote in news:mailman.4403.1240449918.11746.python-l...@python.org: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:50 PM, rzed rzan...@gmail.com wrote: Greg Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote in news:49edb69f.7070...@canterbury.ac.nz: PyGUI 2.0.4 is available:    http

Re: ANN: PyGUI 2.0.4

like me that I want to see it work. I really don't want to have to spend more than a few minutes investigating the nuances of a windowing system. I just want to be able to put up a convenient front end for a program. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Rough draft: Proposed format specifier for a thousands separator

in Py2.6 and Py3.0: http://docs.python.org/library/string.html#formatspec [...] Comments and suggestions are welcome but I draw the line at supporting Mayan numbering conventions ;-) Is that inclusive or exclusive? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Scanning a file character by character

'list_name[x]', where x is an index into the list. If your plan was instead to have predefined names of variables, what would they be called? How many would you have? With list variables, you will have enough, and you will know their names. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

Re: Import, site packages, my modules, Windows vs. Linux

you're running, and will be available for multiple versions, if you run more than one. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Doesn't know what it wants

that on a functioning demo that uses the exact same line. I guess that the vec2d I've got is not the one it wants. How do I tell the difference? I'll go look at all the imports. Are you passing the class or an instance of the class? I'd bet the former, but it should be the latter. -- rzed

Re: may be a bug in string.rstrip

of the string. Not surprisingly, it did remove .torrent, but also the trailing 'e' from 'exe'. Since 'x' is not in that set of characters, the function stopped there. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is python?????

really have the same view of what Python actually is? Or what it could be? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is python?????

of Python, which can lead to confusion at times. Much of the crowdedness of the group has to do with discussion related to the batteries-included features and to the other packages written to run in the Python environment. Hope that helps. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

Re: startswith( prefix[, start[, end]]) Query

: 0.514 usec per loop 100 loops, best of 3: 0.515 usec per loop In other words, the shorter name did seem to affect the timings, but in a negative way. Why it would actually change at all is beyond me, but it is consistently this way on my machine. Can anyone explain this? -- rzed

Re: Why is this loop heavy code so slow in Python? Possible Project Euler spoilers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: The puzzle is: p is the perimeter of a right angle triangle with integral length sides, {a,b,c}. which value of p 1000, is the number of solutions {a,b,c} maximised? Here's my python code: #!/usr/local/bin/python solutions = [0] *

Re: SimplePrograms challenge

understanding of the underlying concept. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and GUI

Database. Because once you start building an app, you commit to the syntax of the package and you are no longer (in my view) coding in Python, but in that subset that includes the GUI Package of your choice. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Printing dots in sequence ('...')

Tim Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] maybe this: (on Win32, don't know about *nix) for x in range(10): print '.\b', better: print '\b.', -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Lists vs tuples (newbie)

(but would have to test to confirm) that tuples occupy less space for the same data. I don't know whether any differences in, say, iteration speed would be terribly significant, but I would expect tuples to be marginally faster. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Nested dictionaries trouble

! Maybe something like: httpMonths = dict((k,%02d % (x+1)) for x,k in enumerate(months[1:]) ) -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Clean Durty strings

applying the replacements. From what I've seen so far, that would be all the OP needs for this task. It might take a half- dozen lines of code, plus the from/to table definition. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Clean Durty strings

()),fromlist,tolist) /code If the question is about efficiency or robustness or generality, then that's another set of issues, but that's for the 1.1 version to handle. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: print a ... z, A ... Z, \n' in Python

or chr in sight: # Inclusive character range. def pycrange(lo,hi): import string chars = string.letters + rstr = '' lp = chars.find(lo) hp = chars.find(hi) if lp hp: rstr = chars[lp:hp+1] return rstr print pycrange('c','n') Lame code, though. -- rzed

Re: quickly read a formated file?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: lialie: The formated file may be very popularly, but the module ConfigPaser doesn't handle it. Is there a way to process it freely? First try, assuming the input file can be read whole. The code isn't much readable, it needs better

Re: Parameter lists

super(Stats, self).__getitem__(name) ... except KeyError: ... return None ... __getattr__ = __getitem__ ... __setattr__ = __setitem__ ... m = dict(a=1,b=22,c=(1,2,3)) p = Stats(m,x=4,y=[5,9,11]) p.y [5, 9, 11] p['y'] [5, 9, 11] -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org

Re: Dividing integers...Convert to float first?

then. Remember the PEP 8 module name standards. from __future__ import lottery_numbers [1, 16, 19, 20, 21, 39] My Python version is so old that I only get three numbers. I guess I'll have to upgrade. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: strange test for None

) ValueError: invalid literal for int(): None i wanna know what the hell is going on... first i tried to test using is not None, but it makes no difference. It appears that ims is the string 'None', so it fails the test, but is an invalid literal. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org

Re: How do I print out in the standard output coloured lines

lines. Does your application emit output to a plotter, an ink-jet printer, or a color laser printer? Is it a drawing program? An editor in which you want lines colored to highlight context? It might be useful to know what system you are running as well. Just a little detail here. -- rzed

Re: How do I print out in the standard output coloured lines

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Feb 2, 1:16 pm, rzed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote innews:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm interested in printing out coloured lines of my application and I don't know what to use. Can anybody give me an idea

Re: win32com.client

Explorer. This will execute the installer, and the entire pywin32 package will be installed, including win32com. Try those steps, then try importing win32com again. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: win32com.client

, then, as Gary has told you: You want the python for windows extension, available from http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/; I think the ActiveState distro includes it as part of its package. I don't know if any of this applies if you are using Linux, VMS, etc. -- rzed -- http

Re: Are there sprintf in Python???

questions? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there any sprintf in Python? I know you can print to files(or redefine sys.stout) and later open the file content. Are there similar function to sprintf in C? Something like this? x = 9 vbl = One digit: %d, four digits:

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

?), if anything. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: **argv can't work

Jm lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: hello members, See my script piece below: def testB(shift,**argv): print first argument is %s %shift print all other arguments are:,argv testB('mails','Jen','[EMAIL PROTECTED]','Joe','[EMAIL PROTECTED]') It can't

Re: where is python on linux?

-- rzed A sandwich is a sandwich, but a Manwich is a meal. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Just Getting Started with Python on MS XP Pro

specially. (Fiddling around) Ah! If you want to invoke the interactive python shell, you will probably want to add the root location to your path, so you can type python ... to invoke it, rather than c:\python25\python ... and something similar may be true for the Scripts subdirectory. -- rzed

Re: still struggling, howto use a list-element as a name ?

Stef Mientki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the example below, pin is an object with a number of properties. Now I want 1- an easy way to create objects that contains a number of these pin 2- an multiple way to access these pin, i.e. device.pin[some_index]

Re: still struggling, howto use a list-element as a name ?

.__dict__[self.pin[k]['Name']] = self.pin[k] thanks rzed ?, that is exactly what I was looking for: self.__dict__[self.pinlist[k][0]] = self.pin[k] I'm glad it helped. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: still struggling, howto use a list-element as a name ?

Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: rzed a écrit : (snip) for k in self.pin.keys(): self.__dict__[self.pin[k]['Name']] = self.pin[k] for pin self.pin.values(): self.__dict__[pin['name']] = pin D'oh! Of course! Thank you

Re: function without brackets ?

the function, if you were using Python. Functions are objects that, for example, can be passed to other functions. The way to refer to the functions themselves is to omit the arguments and parentheses. So by simply stating the name of a function, that's all you've done. -- rzed -- http

Re: File write() problem

, replacing the original file. -- rzed ... for some value of better off... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Formatting a string to be a columned block of text

,'') diff -= 1 eix += 2 if eix = 1+len(ls)/2: eix = 1 line = ' '.join(ls) return line -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what is wrong with my code?

with task_to_remove. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Class and instance question

. What is it? How would it be used (or, I guess, how should the __new__() method be used)? Any hints? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: aggdraw for 2.5 on WinXP?

Stéphane Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: rzed a écrit : Has anyone generated an aggdraw installer or aggdraw.pyd for Python 2.5 (WinXP)? If so, could it be made available for those of us who don't have a working compiler? Hello, You can try http

aggdraw for 2.5 on WinXP?

Has anyone generated an aggdraw installer or aggdraw.pyd for Python 2.5 (WinXP)? If so, could it be made available for those of us who don't have a working compiler? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PythonTidy

and commenting out lines, I can't readily suppress them. As it stands now, I can't trust PythonTidy to do the right thing on unfamiliar code, and I can't readily try out various options by simply activating or deactivating them; if I could, it would be much more useful to me. -- rzed -- http

Re: A question about list

) in a] -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

taken Anthony's usage (there's countless other people I know...) less than literally. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: New Python.org website ?

encoding? I haven't found (WinXP Firefox) that displays that city in Sweden without a paragraph symbol or worse. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.4 - Help does not work in Windows

2.2.3 version that came pre- installed, though I've not used it directly. (checking) It's help seems to work now, but then so does my 2.4.2 help, now. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

About zipfile on WinXP

file's contents. Has anyone else observed this? If not, is there something in the code that I should change to permit XP to view the contents? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Build Python using Mars compiler?

out for? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows and python execution

that the program is executable. Add .PY and .PYW to this list and you will be good to go. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows and python execution

myNeatProgram.py and proceeds to run it. So if you have a myNeatProgram.bat that appears earlier in your path than myNeatProgram.py does, the bat file is what gets run. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Parsing text

: line = f.next() outf.write('%s' % line) f.close() for k,v in outfs.items(): v.close() -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: If - Or statements

, particularly if the tests occur in several places. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Newbie question: Allocation vs references

change 'a' --- -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: anygui,anydb, any opinions?

Thomas Bartkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: rzed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip So what do you think? What's wrong with the picture? Why isn't there a greater priority to work in this direction? What's wrong with the picture

anygui,anydb, any opinions?

with the picture? Why isn't there a greater priority to work in this direction? -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PIL and line drawing

Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: rzed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you have 1.1.5, you can use the width option to control the line width. see: I'm glad to see that addition. I was surprised to see that 'width' is actually doubled in the resulting line

Re: PIL and line drawing

for any replies, tip: you may get quicker/better responses if you use the image-sig mailing list (if you're using a newsreader, point it to gmane.comp.python.image) -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Setting the corner color in rotated PIL images

Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: rzed wrote: I'm using PIL to generate some images which may be rotated at the user's option. When they are rotated, the original image is cropped in the new image (which is fine), and the corners are black (which

Re: Setting the corner color in rotated PIL images

[Following up] - Original Message - From: rzed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: comp.lang.python To: python-list@python.org Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: Setting the corner color in rotated PIL images I'm using PIL to generate some images which may be rotated

Re: Setting the corner color in rotated PIL images

suppose it's more trouble than it's worth for Fredrik, or nobody else has been bothered by it, or by the lack of a flood-fill function. To me, these are uncharacteristically odd omissions from PIL. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Setting the corner color in rotated PIL images

that there wouldn't be some way to change the black to another color, or (maybe just as good) to transparent. PIL is so useful that it strikes me as an aberrant oversight. More likely, there *is* a better way, but I just don't know it and can't find it in the docs. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org

Setting the corner color in rotated PIL images

is that they be a solid color, the same color they were before being rotated. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: help please

gargonx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if i put it in exactly the way you did: import re charmatcher = re.compile(r' [A-Z] [\d]?') ext = dict(D=V1, O=M1, G=S1) std = dict(S=H) decode_replacements ={} decode_replacements.update([(std[key], key) for

Re: Python versus Perl ?

/namespace arguments and return values. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: namespaces module (a.k.a. bunch, struct, generic object, etc.) PEP

could happily give up some features as long as the functionality is still available and presuming I intended the code for public consumption, and for that, Namespace would be most useful. Though I'd like it to have a shorter name. I'm lazy. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Curses on Windows

/ But this one is still forbidden, at least for me: http://flangy.com/dev/python/curses/files/wcurses-0.1-py2.4.zip -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ConfigParser - add a stop sentinel?

if I ever have reason to distribute the app elsewhere. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ConfigParser - add a stop sentinel?

applications also ... though that's not what I'm talking about in this instance. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Lambda going out of fashion

! exec! Anyway, for those who use lambdas, this approach is likely to be unappealing. For those who find lambdas puzzling, it may be an alternative, at least for a way to handle the switch equivalent. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Switch statement (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

timeframe. Thomas Wouters' patch for the interpreter would also need to be resurrected and brought up-to-date. I not longer remember why the PEP stalled. It seems to me that it was regarded as misguidod. -- rzed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Lambda going out of fashion

Jp Calderone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:36:08 GMT, rzed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Thorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] { 'one': lambda x:x.blat(), 'two': lambda x:x.blah(), }.get(someValue, lambda