Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 06.01.2017 09:40, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: So why not use the debugger interactively to develop applications. As long as one sets the breakpoints in a meaningful way so you can trace your code in a very productive way. Is that what you mean by interactive environment? Well, not

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:10:04 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote: > On 04.01.2017 07:54, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > > Unfortunately most of the time I am still using print and input functions. > > I know that sucks, I did not use the pdb module, I guess that IDE debuggers > >

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 9:51:17 AM UTC-8, ArnoB wrote: > On 02-01-17 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor > > should I use. This can be overwhelming. > > > > So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 12:32:19 PM UTC-8, fpp wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Chris Clark > > wrote: > >> I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say > >> windows. > >> Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Chris Clark > wrote: >> I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say >> windows. >> Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not licensed. >> Atom, loved it until it slowed down. >> VIM, ok the best if you

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

Chris Clark : > I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say > windows. I use emacs for all of my typing, including Python programming (and making this post). Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

Have you looked into Visual Studio Code (https://code.visualstudio.com/)? I've not used it extensively, and only on Windows, but it's an open source IDE originated by MS that purportedly works on Windows, Linux & OS X. It does have pretty decent Python support (haven't tried debugging, but syntax

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

I want an IDE that I can use at work and home, linux and dare I say windows. Sublime, had to remove it from my work PC as it is not licensed. Atom, loved it until it slowed down. VIM, ok the best if you know vi inside out. Any JAVA based IDE, just slows up on work PC's due to all the

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 02-01-17 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor should I use. This can be overwhelming. So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, IntelliJ with Python plugin. The thing with the

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

> On Jan 4, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger > wrote: > > On 04.01.2017 15:41, William Ray Wing wrote: >> I use Wing, and I think you will like it. It *is* pythonic, and for what it >> is worth, offers remote debugging as one of its more recently added

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Montag, 2. Januar 2017 03:38:53 Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor > should I use. This can be overwhelming. > > So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, > IntelliJ with Python plugin. Well,

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 04.01.2017 15:41, William Ray Wing wrote: I use Wing, and I think you will like it. It *is* pythonic, and for what it is worth, offers remote debugging as one of its more recently added features. Obviously, you had no other choice than using Wing ;-) The remote debugging has been around

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 04.01.2017 07:54, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: Unfortunately most of the time I am still using print and input functions. I know that sucks, I did not use the pdb module, I guess that IDE debuggers leverage such module. pdb is actually quite useful. On my Windows PCs I can invoke python

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

* Paul Rudin [170103 23:17]: > Tim Johnson writes: > > > * Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]: > >> Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more > >> emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

> On Jan 4, 2017, at 1:54 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia > wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 4:12:34 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote: >> On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: >> You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less like a spacecraft. Maybe you

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

Tried every python ide going, they either grind to a halt or just look messy. Best one I ever used and stick with is drpython, years old, probably not maintained but does everything I want at a blistering speed and just looks perfect. On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:41 AM +, "Antonio Caminero

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

Tim Johnson writes: > * Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]: >> Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more >> emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick to it so I >> can get a fast workflow. Eventually I will learn

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 4:12:34 PM UTC-8, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote: > On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less like a spacecraft. Maybe you > like it. > Maybe the difference is that Wing is from Python people while the ones > you

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 5:42:34 AM UTC+5:30, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote: > On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > > The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ, > > Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that > >

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Wednesday 04 January 2017 12:10, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 03Jan2017 12:57, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >>I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text editors, I prefer a traditional >>GUI-based editor. So my "IDE" is: >>- Firefox, for doing searches and looking up

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 03Jan2017 12:57, Steve D'Aprano wrote: I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text editors, I prefer a traditional GUI-based editor. So my "IDE" is: - Firefox, for doing searches and looking up documentation; - an GUI programmer's editor, preferably one with a

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 02.01.2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ, Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that unwarranted resources consumption and the unnecessary icons. You did not try Wing IDE? It looks less

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

* Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 20:56]: > Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more > emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick to it so I > can get a fast workflow. Eventually I will learn Vim and its > python developing setup, I know

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 6:39:03 AM UTC-5, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor > should I use. This can be overwhelming. > > So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, IntelliJ > with Python

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

Guys really thank you for your answers. Basically now I am more emphasizing in learning in depth a tool and get stick to it so I can get a fast workflow. Eventually I will learn Vim and its python developing setup, I know people who have been programming using Vim for almost 20 years and they

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 5:57:51 PM UTC-8, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:38 pm, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > > > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor > > should I use. This can be overwhelming. > > Linux is my IDE. > >

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:38 pm, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor > should I use. This can be overwhelming. Linux is my IDE. https://sanctum.geek.nz/arabesque/series/unix-as-ide/ I dislike the Unix-style Vim/Emacs text

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

* Antonio Caminero Garcia [170102 02:50]: <> > Now, I am thinking about giving a try to Visual Studio Code > Edition (take a look, it sounds good > https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=donjayamanne.python). > I need an editor for professional software

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 8:24:29 AM UTC-8, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 01/02/2017 04:38 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > > The problem with Vim is the learning curve, so I know the very basic > > stuff, but obviously not enough for coding and I do not have time to > > learn it, it is a

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia < tonycam...@gmail.com> wrote: > The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ, Pycharm) is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that unwarranted resources consumption and the unnecessary icons. I want

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 02Jan2017 21:30, Matt Wheeler wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 at 16:24 Michael Torrie wrote: Really, the basic stuff is enough to be very productive in vim. In fact just knowing how to save and quit is half the battle! A little cheat sheet for vim by your

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 at 16:24 Michael Torrie wrote: > Really, the basic stuff is enough to be very productive in vim. In fact > just knowing how to save and quit is half the battle! A little cheat > sheet for vim by your keyboard would be plenty I think. If all you knew > was

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 2-1-2017 12:38, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ, > Pycharm) > is that they look like a space craft dashboard and that unwarranted resources > consumption and the unnecessary icons. I want my IDE to be minimalistic but

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia < tonycam...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor > should I use. This can be overwhelming. > > So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, > IntelliJ with

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

On 01/02/2017 04:38 AM, Antonio Caminero Garcia wrote: > The problem with Vim is the learning curve, so I know the very basic > stuff, but obviously not enough for coding and I do not have time to > learn it, it is a pity because there are awesome plugins that turns > Vim into a lightweight

Re: Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

I'd recommend you be willing to put in the time and effort to learn the tools you want to use, if you want to do professional software development. Pick one, use it for a month (at least 100+ hours of hands on keyboard coding). Sublime, Vi are great for Python, since Python doesn't require as

Choosing a Python IDE. what is your Pythonish recommendation? I do not know what to choose.

Hello, I am having a hard time deciding what IDE or IDE-like code editor should I use. This can be overwhelming. So far, I have used Vim, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse with PyDev, Pycharm, IntelliJ with Python plugin. The thing with the from-the-scratch full featured IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ,