Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-10 Thread Flexx
Steve Holden sigh It was an April Fool's joke. It's not actually true. To try and ensure this thread dies for ever, I have added a note to the blog entry at http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html noting the fact that this was indeed an April Fool's joke.

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-10 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To try and ensure this thread dies for ever, I have added a note to the blog entry at http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html noting the fact that this was indeed an April Fool's joke. That's

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-09 Thread Steve Holden
Robert Kern wrote: Francisco Reyes wrote: Shane Hathaway writes: I must saay that i am fully in favor of this change. The ppython developerrs need to eat too. Iis no one ellse aware off the perils oof ooutright open source llicenssing? I disagree with the change. I think Steve Holden is

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-08 Thread Francisco Reyes
Shane Hathaway writes: I must saay that i am fully in favor of this change. The ppython developerrs need to eat too. Iis no one ellse aware off the perils oof ooutright open source llicenssing? I disagree with the change. I think Steve Holden is right. 1- How do you enforce this? 2-

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-08 Thread Robert Kern
Francisco Reyes wrote: Shane Hathaway writes: I must saay that i am fully in favor of this change. The ppython developerrs need to eat too. Iis no one ellse aware off the perils oof ooutright open source llicenssing? I disagree with the change. I think Steve Holden is right. 1- How do

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-03 Thread Tim Roberts
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html I would like to place on record my

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-03 Thread Philippe Martin
That was nasty Steve - at least I'm ready for any kind of bad new today ;-) Regards, Philippe Steve Holden wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-03 Thread Steve Holden
Philippe Martin wrote: That was nasty Steve - at least I'm ready for any kind of bad new today ;-) Sorry ;-) regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my blog holdenweb.blogspot.com --

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread ajones
I say good riddence. Python's success has always been on its merits as an open source application platform. Corprate usage has always been relatively insignificant, and I suspect that many companies are overrepresenting the level of dependance they have on python in an attempt to steer their

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Kay Schluehr
Steve Holden wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html I would like to place on record my protest against

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Shane Hathaway
Steve Holden wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html I must saay that i am fully in favor of this

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Fuzzyman
Steve Holden wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html I would like to place on record my protest against

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Fuzzyman
Fuzzyman wrote: Steve Holden wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html I would like to place on

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Caleb Hattingh
Steve I agree with you. If my vote means anything, I vote against it. The Board realises that this change will be contentious. There are many advantages to making it, however, which we feel will benefit the Python community at large and the PSF membership in particular. Users who wish to

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Caleb Hattingh
WAIT- Did I just get caught by an April Fools Joke? I have a nasty feeling about this :)) C -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (F) wrote: F Can I ask for clarification. The charge applies to any commercial use F of a derivative work based on the Python source code ? F Normal applications that use Python, including bunding the standard F CPython as an executable, using tools like py2exe, won't

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Ivan Herman
I would certainly look at *all details* of the announcement, including the second line from the top which gives the date:-) Ivan Caleb Hattingh wrote: WAIT- Did I just get caught by an April Fools Joke? I have a nasty feeling about this :)) C --

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread bearophileHUGS
Ivan HermanI would certainly look at *all details* of the announcement, Aww, but I liked the idea of copying Perl 6 REs, and porting python to the toy CPU :-) (But making strings mutable sounds too much strange). Bye and thank you, bearophile --

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Kent Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aww, but I liked the idea of copying Perl 6 REs, and porting python to the toy CPU :-) I think if PSF is going to support porting of Python to toy CPUs then the Digi-Comp should be the first target. This will breathe new life into these toys which for years have been

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look at the date. Worry about this if it is still around tomarrow -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-01, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html Good one Steve. I

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-01, Piet van Oostrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (F) wrote: F Can I ask for clarification. The charge applies to any commercial use F of a derivative work based on the Python source code ? F Normal applications that use Python, including bunding the standard F

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Roy Smith
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread reedobrien
That isn't in the published 2.5 License. http://docs.python.org/dev/ref/node110.html Thanks for the scare.. ~r -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Fuzzyman wrote: cut From the site: Advanced Program for Research In Licensing, whose First Object-Oriented License string = Advanced Program for Research In Licensing, whose First Object-Oriented License for letter in string: if ord(letter) in range(65,91): print(letter), --

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread EP
Hmmm... after due consideration (and reading the announcmement properly), I support this license change in full. If I could read past the first paragraph do you think I would really hang onto this newsgroup asking stupid questions?! The personal harm caused readers of this announcement

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread walterbyrd
Is this an April fool's joke? Please post a link to the original article. Not just a post to a blog. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-01, walterbyrd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this an April fool's joke? Did you read the blog entry? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I will invent TIDY at BOWL... visi.com

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Grant Edwards a écrit : On 2006-04-01, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Steve Holden
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2006-04-01, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Steve Holden
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2006-04-01, walterbyrd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this an April fool's joke? Did you read the blog entry? I suspect he didn't. I'm guessing that eventually we'll have to remove the blog entry just so's nobobdy's tempted to take it seriously. regards Steve

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Ray
Steve Holden wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2006-04-01, walterbyrd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this an April fool's joke? Did you read the blog entry? I suspect he didn't. I'm guessing that eventually we'll have to remove the blog entry just so's nobobdy's tempted to take it

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Fredrik Lundh
walterbyrd wrote: Please post a link to the original article. Not just a post to a blog. the pyfound blog is the official PSF blog; it's linked from the PSF:s homepage: http://www.python.org/psf/ /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-03-31 Thread Steve Holden
As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html I would like to place on record my protest against this change. I think it