Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-03 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On Mon, 02 May 2005 19:25:57 -0700, Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dcrespo wrote: But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: I like the class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I can't find

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-03 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On 2 May 2005 08:21:48 -0700, dcrespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. You were right: I meant Code Completition. I did what you told me to do. I get now auto completition of code. For example: import wx wx.(here appear a list with the possibilities) But (there's always a but) with: button =

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-03 Thread dcrespo
Try one of these: - Hit F8 - Menu View/Toggle Source Browser Daniel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Cook
On 2005-04-29, John J. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pydev has some compelling features, but I wish I didn't have to run eclipse On 2005-04-27, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs user? For me, the code

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-02 Thread dcrespo
But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: I like the class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I can't find the autocompletion feature you talk, and I think this feature is very important.

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-02 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On 2 May 2005 06:08:02 -0700, dcrespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: Hello Daniel, thank you, I like the class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-02 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On Mon, 02 May 2005 15:29:58 +0200, Franz Steinhaeusler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) I think, you meant Code Completition: for example you type: os. and with the . os.chmod, os.chdir, ... appear in a completition list box. BTW: If it doesn't seem to work: Make sure, to enable it in Options=Enable

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-02 Thread vkeyboard
Also take a look at Stani's Python Editor http://spe.pycs.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-02 Thread dcrespo
Hi. You were right: I meant Code Completition. I did what you told me to do. I get now auto completition of code. For example: import wx wx.(here appear a list with the possibilities) But (there's always a but) with: button = wx.Button(...) when I write button. there's a flick of the list

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-02 Thread Steffen Glückselig
I'm a fan of PSPad. It's free, light weight, and works with everything. I want to second that. For small scripts PSPad is definitely very useful and comfortable. For larger scripts I'd consider something with code-completion. Maybe PyDev. best regards Steffen --

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-02 Thread Bryan
dcrespo wrote: But I personally recommend DrPython. (Not only, I'm a member of the project). I saw this message and downloaded DrPython. It's very good: I like the class/functions browser while I'm coding... but I can't find the autocompletion feature you talk, and I think this feature is

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-05-01 Thread John J. Lee
Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John == John J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs John user? http://pydev.sourceforge.net/features.html Code completion and debugger

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-29 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On 28 Apr 2005 09:48:25 -0700, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about that Frank. You have to create a project (New -- Project) and add your file to it then Run--Run. This is a bug that slipped past because we do all of our development using projects and hadn't even tried the obvious: open

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-29 Thread John J. Lee
Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2005-04-27, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Pydev has some compelling features, but I wish I didn't have to run eclipse [...] What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs user? John --

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-29 Thread Ville Vainio
John == John J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Dave Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John What are those compelling features of Pydev, for an emacs John user? http://pydev.sourceforge.net/features.html Code completion and debugger are the most obvious ones. Eclipse itself is also

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Ville Vainio
pydev == Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: pydev * PyDev isn't yet mature enough to make it practical for me What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately. -- Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread bruno modulix
Dave Cook wrote: (snip) Once upon a time emacs was considered bloated, That was when 640ko ought to be enough ?-) but it's tiny compared to eclipse. Yeps. And a *lot* faster. And in not that much bigger than Vim in fact... -- bruno desthuilliers python -c print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Beck
Ville Vainio wrote: What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately. PyDev 0.9.2 with Eclipse 3.0.2. It's a nice effort currently, but some of my issues are: * Code completion doesn't work properly for me, and I have no idea why. I have to type the '.' then ADD A SPACE, *then*

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Beck
Oh yeah, and what's with not being able to configure the code completion key sequence. How about *no* key sequence? That's the way every other IDE I've used does it. This is more like semi-automatic code completion. -- Brian Beck Adventurer of the First Order --

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Beck
Brian Beck wrote: What version? PyDev has increased in maturity quite a bit lately. I realize 0.9.3 is the latest release, but the installation fails through the Eclipse updater: Unable to complete action for feature PyDev for Eclipse due to errors. Unable to create file

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Beck
Brian Beck wrote: I realize 0.9.3 is the latest release, but the installation fails through the Eclipse updater: Unable to complete action for feature PyDev for Eclipse due to errors. Unable to create file

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Ville Vainio
Brian == Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Oh yeah, and what's with not being able to configure the Brian code completion key sequence. How about *no* key sequence? Brian That's the way every other IDE I've used does it. This is Brian more like semi-automatic code

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Ville Vainio
Brian == Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Okay, sorry for spamming the newsgroup so much, but I Brian installed 0.9.3 properly and the same issues I mentioned Brian before persist. Code completion for imports or locals don't Brian work at all -- the space thing was

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Beck
Ville Vainio wrote: Perhaps you are just being impatient? Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has Autocomplete on '.' box checked. Yeah, that option is enabled. I actually just discovered that it does work in the example you give and for other modules in the standard

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Ville Vainio
Brian == Brian Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Ville Vainio wrote: Perhaps you are just being impatient? Also, make sure that Preferences/pydev/code completion has Autocomplete on '.' box checked. Brian Yeah, that option is enabled. I actually just discovered

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Beck
Ville Vainio wrote: Does this help? Not really, my PYTHONPATH is fine. I found out that modules imported in the format import mx work fine, but from mx import DateTime doesn't work -- it will still only auto-complete when I type mx. instead of realizing that it's in the local scope now. So it's

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Matt
Sorry about that Frank. You have to create a project (New -- Project) and add your file to it then Run--Run. This is a bug that slipped past because we do all of our development using projects and hadn't even tried the obvious: open file and run. That fix has made its way to the wx folks, but

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-28 Thread Matt
Franz, To ask for help otherwise, use the forums link from http://sourceforge.net/projects/activegrid/ --Matt -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread monkey
Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for Eclipse) also worth

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Ishpeck
monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread monkey
What about eric? Good, it seem a very capable ide. But it require qt and for linux only? (can't find the system requirement) I have been using PyDev for some time, but i think it is not always very handsome (e.g. writing a 5-line script in vim needs less time than eclipse startup ;-) otoh,

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Bill Mill
On 4/27/05, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Ishpeck
Sorry about the empty post. I'm a fan of PSPad. It's free, light weight, and works with everything. http://www.pspad.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:16:29 +0800, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?).

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Matt
The ActiveGrid IDE is a sample app with wxPython. It has a lot of good features including a source code debugger that allows you to debug wx apps and set breakpoints from the code editor. I am also biased though--I work on that IDE and use it for all my coding. Its pretty far along on Windows and

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread jeff elkins
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 01:16 pm, monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Matt Feinstein
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:16:29 +0800, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Brian Beck
monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Philippe C. Martin
I really like eclipse + pydev Regards, Philippe monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?).

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread djw
monkey wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread monkey
* Don't underestimate IDLE, it's surprisingly capable considering it's just a dinky little thing Yes, I believe IDLE is the a unbeatible last resort for python (-: * SPE has great features, but the pure-Python-ness makes it slow! Is it related to wxpython you mean? or program with GUI in tk

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread alex
jeff elkins wrote: Is Boa actively used? There doesn't seem to be much activity its mailing list. The tutorial fails for me using python 2.3.5, wxpython 2.5.3.2 and Boa 0.4.0 under debian sid. Jeff Boa is not a dead project if that's your concern, maybe it's not getting a lot of attention,

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
monkey a écrit : Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa Constructor and PyDev(the plug-in for

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread runes
I used Boa for a Win32 project. It helped me enormously. It's very easy to design windows etc. But the generated python code is not beautiful. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Which IDE is recommended?

2005-04-27 Thread Dave Cook
On 2005-04-27, monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read through python site for programming tool, really plenty of choices :-) (For c++, I just can't breath with very very limited choices) Tried Spe, it come with wxGlade built-in very nice(is Spe still actively develop?). But seem that Boa