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On behalf of the Python development team, I'm quite happy to announce the
Python 3.3.3 release candidate 2.
Python 3.3.3 includes several security fixes and over 150 bug fixes compared to
the Python 3.3.2 release.
This release fully supports OS X
On 12/11/2013 01:57, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 11/11/2013 7:02 AM, sg...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
(Sorry for posting through GG, I'm at work.)
On Monday, November 11, 2013 11:25:42 AM UTC, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Suppose I have a function that needs access to globals:
# module A.py
def spam():
g
Quoting Ned Batchelder (2013-11-09 14:24:34)
On Friday, November 8, 2013 9:03:51 PM UTC-5, Demian Brecht wrote:
Hi all,
I have an .py file with a simple assignment in it:
foo = 'bar'
Now, I want to set a conditional breakpoint in gdb, breaking on that
assignment (I'm guessing the
Op 12-11-13 07:31, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
On 11/11/2013 06:16 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On Monday, November 11, 2013 5:47:28 PM UTC-5, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 11/08/2013 11:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 4:11 AM, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 11/08/2013 03:05 AM, Νίκος
(1) hash()-ability != immutability (!)
Proof:
class X:
def __hash__(self): return 0
def pseudo_isimmutable(this):
try:
hash(this)
return True
except TypeError:
return False
shapeshifter = (1, 2, X())
print pseudo_isimmutable(shapeshifter)
On 12/11/2013 02:11, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 11/11/2013 4:41 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
From http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.4.html#optimizations The
UTF-32 decoder is now 3x to 4x faster.. Does anybody have any
references to this work? All I can find is the 3.3 what's new which
refers to
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Frank-Rene Schäfer fsch...@gmail.com wrote:
(1) hash()-ability != immutability (!)
Proof:
class X:
def __hash__(self): return 0
x == y != y == x
Proof:
class X:
def __eq__(self,other): return True
class Y:
def __eq__(self,other): return False
On 12/11/2013 07:25, alex23 wrote:
On 12/11/2013 2:49 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
Don't forget that there are also some differences between American and
Imperial whitespace. Since it's ASCII whitespace, you should probably
assume American...
sys.getsizeof(' ')
34
sys.getsizeof(u' ')
52
bad
On 12/11/2013 05:21, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Ned Batchelder wrote:
I don't know how best to make things better overall. I know that
overlooking Nikos' faults won't do it.
If everyone who reached the point where they don't think
they can help any more would simply say so in a calm
manner and
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:11 PM, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
Long before you showed up here, I noticed the tendency
to not answer questions directly but to jerk people off
by giving hints or telling them to do something other
than they want to do.
Often that is good because the original request
All you've done is proven that you can subvert things. By fiddling
with __hash__, __eq__, and so on, you can make sets and dicts behave
very oddly. Means nothing.
To the contrary, it means everything about what 'isimmutable' could
contribute: security against advert or inadvert insertion of
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 12/11/2013 05:21, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Ned Batchelder wrote:
I don't know how best to make things better overall. I know that
overlooking Nikos' faults won't do it.
If everyone who reached the point where
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Frank-Rene Schäfer fsch...@gmail.com wrote:
All you've done is proven that you can subvert things. By fiddling
with __hash__, __eq__, and so on, you can make sets and dicts behave
very oddly. Means nothing.
To the contrary, it means everything about what
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:26:46 -0800, Matt wrote:
So I want to take the file, desktop/test.txt and write it to
desktop/newfolder/test.txt. I tried the below script, and it gave me:
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'desktop/%s.txt'. Any
suggestions would be great.
def
Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
alter the line manually when time changes?
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2)
Op 12-11-13 10:35, Chris Angelico schreef:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
On 12/11/2013 05:21, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Ned Batchelder wrote:
I don't know how best to make things better overall. I know that
overlooking Nikos' faults won't do it.
unknown wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:26:46 -0800, Matt wrote:
So I want to take the file, desktop/test.txt and write it to
desktop/newfolder/test.txt. I tried the below script, and it gave me:
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'desktop/%s.txt'. Any
suggestions would be great.
E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote in message
news:yo-dnwfmi7_7d-jpnz2dnuvz_hqdn...@earthlink.com...
Posted by E.D.G. on November 12, 2013
The following is part of a note that I just posted to the Perl
Newsgroup. But it is actually intended for all computer programmers who are
So how do you figure out whether something's immutable or not? Are you
going to ask the object itself? If so, stick with __hash__, and just
follow the rule that mutable objects aren't hashable - which is, if
I'm not mistaken, how things already are. And if not, then how? How
will you know if
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:12:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
def isimmutable(x):
try:
hash(x)
return True
except TypeError:
return False
I'm afraid that doesn't test for immutability. It tests for hashability,
which is different.
No well-behaved mutable
El 12/11/13 01:46, Rick Johnson escribió:
No, Python modules can be poked, prodded, and violated by any pervert
who can spell the word import. Attribute values can be reassigned
and state can be externally manipulated resulting in all types of
undefined behaviors --
Nice!
My code, my
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:31:32 AM UTC-5, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 11/11/2013 06:16 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
Nikos has received a good deal of genuine advice. He has also been
genuinely difficult to help.
Yes. If he is too difficult to help without getting
angry because he won't
On 2013-11-11 22:24, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
And your suggestion is not necessarily best either: why a 1:M
relationship? why not a M:M relationship? There may be duplicate
file downloads resulting in your suggestion being non-normalized.
You think that, after rejecting the addition of *one*
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:24:02 +0100, Peter Otten wrote:
unknown wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:26:46 -0800, Matt wrote:
So I want to take the file, desktop/test.txt and write it to
desktop/newfolder/test.txt. I tried the below script, and it gave
me:
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or
On 2013-11-11 20:46, Rick Johnson wrote:
Yes, and i agree. But you cannot hide everything. There
will always be a need to share information.
You may not be able to (or want to) hide everything, but sharing
should at least happen over defined protocols (functions/methods).
Otherwise, you wander
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:01:19 +0100, Frank-Rene Schäfer wrote:
the existence of a built-in function 'isimmutable' puts the concept of
immutability some more into the spotlight.
That is an argument against the proposal, not in favour. The concept of
immutability doesn't need to be in the
Hello all together,
I have a python and android related issue. I hope that this is no
problem because apart from stack overflow, where I also posted this
question (but got no answer so far), I think a python mailing-list is
the best place to post this question.
I am trying to use
Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I joined
this mailing list in anticipation of learning soon. And thought I'd have a
go playing around with your code and code given to you (worst possible
place to start, I'm sure)
But from the answers already given to you, this
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Antoon Pardon
antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote:
So you are complaining about people being human. Yes that is
how people tend to react when they continualy are frustrated
by someone who refuses to show the slightest cooperation.
So no rejecting such responses,
Στις 12/11/2013 2:47 μμ, ο/η Andy Lawton έγραψε:
Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I
joined this mailing list in anticipation of learning soon. And
thought I'd have a go playing around with your code and code given to
you (worst possible place to start, I'm sure)
Στις 11/11/2013 11:36 πμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
Στις 6/11/2013 5:25 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Γκρ33κ έγραψε:
Okey let the hacker try again to mess with my database!!!
He is done it twice, lets see if he will make it again!
I'am waiting!
I can't believe your ignorance. You're actually telling a
On 2013-11-12, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Using os.path.exists before opening a file is, for the most
part, a waste of time.
I use it in conjuction with file creation times to check that I
didn't forget to update/create one of the data files a process
might
On 2013-11-12 11:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:12:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
def isimmutable(x):
try:
hash(x)
return True
except TypeError:
return False
I'm afraid that doesn't test for immutability. It tests for hashability,
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Στις 12/11/2013 2:47 μμ, ο/η Andy Lawton έγραψε:
Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I
joined this mailing list in anticipation of learning soon. And
thought I'd have a go playing around
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:06:09 AM UTC, Rick Johnson wrote:
Justifying Global Variables:
Globals are justified when they are used to communicate
Στις 12/11/2013 4:03 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Στις 12/11/2013 2:47 μμ, ο/η Andy Lawton έγραψε:
Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I
joined this mailing list in anticipation of
In article l5sc04$3vd$1...@reader1.panix.com,
Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote:
On 2013-11-11, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 11/11/2013 23:21, mm0fmf wrote:
On 11/11/2013 19:39, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:06:09 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
In this thread, i want to get to the bottom of this whole
global-phobia thing once and for all, and hopefully help you folks
understand that globals are not all that bad -- when DESIGNED and USED
correctly that is!
it is the final
I am actually running python on raspberry pi. The trigger event is a
button-press.
On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:56:03 PM UTC+8, Dave Angel wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:41:58 -0800 (PST), JL lightai...@gmail.com
wrote:
- If the event happens again before the 5secs expire, the high
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Joel i must thank you for your help.
I cannot believe it was so simple.
Tnhe server is self aware of its location so why use utcnow() + timedelte(
some_digit_here ) when you can just use just now()
Did you ever go
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:12:10 AM UTC-6, jongiddy wrote:
Can you please give an example where having a module
provide a global variable would work better than any of:
[snip]
Well my point is that the attributes of any Python module
are emulating globals already. The fact that we have
[This announcement is in German since it targets a local user group
meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany]
ANKÜNDIGUNG
Python Meeting Düsseldorf
http://pyddf.de/
Ein Treffen
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alister alister.w...@ntlworld.com wrote:
As an analogy music has may general rules that musicians are wise to
follow.
Some pieces of music that break these rules are great because they have
broken the rules but most are not. those that are great are great
Στις 12/11/2013 4:57 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Joel i must thank you for your help.
I cannot believe it was so simple.
Tnhe server is self aware of its location so why use utcnow() + timedelte(
some_digit_here )
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:05:25 PM UTC, Rick Johnson wrote:
When i type math.pi, i feel as though i'm accessing an
interface, BUT I'M NOT!
I'm not sure where you get the feeling you're accessing an interface. If I
typed this, I would feel like I was trying to change a
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:33 AM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
I don't know how to use gdb the way you want, but it sounds like you are on a
fascinating journey of discovery. What are you trying to learn? Perhaps we
can talk about how the interpreter works.
Apologies for not
On 12/11/2013 15:40, Demian Brecht wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:33 AM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
I don't know how to use gdb the way you want, but it sounds like you are on
a fascinating journey of discovery. What are you trying to learn? Perhaps
we can talk about how the
On 2013-11-12 17:24, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece?
How would datetime.now() work then?
Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as soon
as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all
operations. Only when
=?UTF-8?Q?Frank=2DRene_Sch=C3=A4fer?= fsch...@gmail.com wrote:
The ImmutableNester special class type would be a feature to help
checks to avoid recursion. Objects of classes derived from
ImmutableNester have no mutable access functions and allow insertion
of members only at construction
E.g.: using Cython
I am currently using Bottle, and it's fine; but provides much more than I need.
Investigating rewriting in C++; perhaps using restcgi. Can give that
restcgi a bit of a rewrite, removing the boost dependency and
replacing it with a C++11 dependency.
However given the lack of a
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 4:39, Frank-Rene Schäfer wrote:
All you've done is proven that you can subvert things. By fiddling
with __hash__, __eq__, and so on, you can make sets and dicts behave
very oddly. Means nothing.
To the contrary, it means everything about what 'isimmutable' could
Στις 12/11/2013 5:54 μμ, ο/η Tim Chase έγραψε:
On 2013-11-12 17:24, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece?
How would datetime.now() work then?
Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as soon
as possible, then store/use the UTC
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 06:44:05 -0800, JL wrote:
I am actually running python on raspberry pi. The trigger event is a
button-press.
On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:56:03 PM UTC+8, Dave Angel wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:41:58 -0800 (PST), JL lightai...@gmail.com
wrote:
- If the event
On 2013-11-12 17:57, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as
soon as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all
operations. Only when it's about to be presented to the user
should you convert it back to local time if you need to.
On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Στις 12/11/2013 5:54 μμ, ο/η Tim Chase έγραψε:
On 2013-11-12 17:24, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece?
How would datetime.now() work then?
Best practices say to
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:54:44 -0600, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2013-11-12 17:24, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece?
How would datetime.now() work then?
Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as soon as
possible, then
Op 12-11-13 14:02, Ian Kelly schreef:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Antoon Pardon
antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote:
So you are complaining about people being human. Yes that is
how people tend to react when they continualy are frustrated
by someone who refuses to show the slightest
On 12/11/2013 16:12, Tim Chase wrote:
Regardless of the server's configured TZ, best practice still says to
normalize everything to UTC (ESPECIALLY if Greece uses the
abomination of DST that we suffer here in the US) as soon as
possible and keep it that way for as long as possible.
-tkc
Op 12-11-13 15:44, JL schreef:
I am actually running python on raspberry pi. The trigger event is a
button-press.
That doesn't help. What does that button-press cause in terms of the OS. Does
it cause a signal? Does it produce a number of bytes that can be read from
some file like object?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Antoon Pardon
antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote:
Op 12-11-13 15:44, JL schreef:
I am actually running python on raspberry pi. The trigger event is a
button-press.
That doesn't help. What does that button-press cause in terms of the OS. Does
it cause a
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:33:50 AM UTC-6, jongiddy wrote:
I'm not sure where you get the feeling you're accessing an
interface.
Because the constant PI should never change. Sure we can
argue about granularity of PI, but that argument has no
weight on the fact that PI should be a constant.
Hi Omar,
Thanks for the suggestions!
Your point about question difficulty is well taken. We previously organized
questions into sections based on difficulty or topic, but have been
experimenting with doing away with sections entirely. We are developing a
way to intelligently deliver questions to
On 2013-11-12 09:00, Rick Johnson wrote:
Because the constant PI should never change. Sure we can
argue about granularity of PI, but that argument has no
weight on the fact that PI should be a constant.
By placing PI in the module math, we are creating a pseudo
interface. We (the creators)
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:00:37 AM UTC-6, Rick Johnson wrote:
[snip]
We have all been brainwashed by authorities. First they
give us rules, then they give us the power to break
those rules.
The devil himself said it best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGR4SFOimlk
Hmm. How do we
Le mardi 12 novembre 2013 03:11:48 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
On 11/11/2013 4:41 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
From http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.4.html#optimizations The
UTF-32 decoder is now 3x to 4x faster.. Does anybody have any
references to this work? All I can find is
On 12/11/2013 16:12, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2013-11-12 17:57, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as
soon as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all
operations. Only when it's about to be presented to the user
should you convert
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
On 12/11/2013 16:12, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2013-11-12 17:57, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as
soon as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all
I launch my program with pythonw and begin it with the code below so that all
my print()'s go to the log file specified.
if sys.executable.find('pythonw') =0:
# Redirect all console output to file.
sys.stdout = open(pythonw - stdout stderr.log,'w')
sys.stderr =
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:47:58 +, Andy Lawton wrote:
(I think Europe/Kiev is Greece but I don't know)
I suspect Nick is really in a coding sweatshop in Asia/Mumbai
--
Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:57:55 +0200, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
or perhaps by confiruing the timezone of the server to use Greece's
TimeZone by issuing a linux command?
If you have that degreee of control over the server, yes, but UTC is
always safer, because if you need to move your server to a
Leo 4.11 final is now available at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/leo/files/Leo/ Leo 4.11 contains over a year's
work on Leo.
Leo is a PIM, an IDE and an outliner for programmers, authors and web
designers. Leo's unique features organize data in a revolutionary way.
Python scripts can easily
On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Isaac Gerg isaac.g...@gergltd.com wrote:
I launch my program with pythonw and begin it with the code below so that all
my print()'s go to the log file specified.
if sys.executable.find('pythonw') =0:
# Redirect all console output to file.
Thanks for the reply Bill. The problem is the text i am getting is from a
python warning message, not one of my own print() function calls.
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Antoon Pardon
antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote:
Op 12-11-13 14:02, Ian Kelly schreef:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Antoon Pardon
antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote:
So you are complaining about people being human. Yes that is
how people tend to react
Greetings everyone! This is my first post on this forum :)
TL;DR: I want to convert the gregorian years into Chinese years, and deal with
the fact that the Chinese new years are different each gregorian year. If I
manage to do that, I'll know which year the user is born in Chinese years and
So I'm trying to write a program for a problem in class, and something strange
is happening that I can't figure out why is happening. I was wondering if you
guys could help me fix it?
http://pastebin.com/6QZTvx6Z
Basically, 1 and 2 work just fine as inputs, but whenever I input 3 or 4, idle
On 12/11/2013 22:14, lrwarre...@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm trying to write a program for a problem in class, and something strange
is happening that I can't figure out why is happening. I was wondering if you
guys could help me fix it?
http://pastebin.com/6QZTvx6Z
Basically, 1 and 2 work just
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:21:58 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 12/11/2013 22:14, lr@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm trying to write a program for a problem in class, and something
strange is happening that I can't figure out why is happening. I was
wondering if you guys could help
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Joel Goldstick
joel.goldst...@gmail.com wrote:
In the US, the state of Indiana is really weird. Three separate time
zone areas, that don't all flip in the same way. See this for TZ
hell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_time_zones
Timezones are one of
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:00:37 PM UTC, Rick Johnson wrote:
1. Accept that globals are useful, and make them
available through a real global syntax, not
some attribute of a module that appears to be
local, but in reality is global. Then prevent
On 11/12/2013 01:26 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
As for letting the bullies (which I'll take as a metaphor for
trolls, since I've not once seen Nikos act like a bully)
Every time he uses foul language against somebody he's acting like a bully.
Every time he reposts questions and ignores answers he's
Welcome to the world of Python programming! I'm glad you're learning this great
language.
As to your bug, think about this: in each if or elif statement, you're reading
the user input again, so if user input is NOT equal to 1 in the first place, it
reads input again. Try to step through your
First thing would you please read and action this
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython so we don't have to read
double spaced google crap, thanks.
On 12/11/2013 22:27, lrwarre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:21:58 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 12/11/2013
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:04:08 -0800, edmundicon wrote:
Greetings everyone! This is my first post on this forum :)
TL;DR: I want to convert the gregorian years into Chinese years, and
deal with the fact that the Chinese new years are different each
gregorian year. If I manage to do that, I'll
On 2013-11-12 14:27, lrwarre...@gmail.com wrote:
if int(raw_input()) == 1:
print Moving north
y = y + 1
elif int(raw_input()) == 2:
print Moving east
x = x + 1
elif int(raw_input()) == 3:
print Moving south
On 12/11/2013 22:27, lrwarre...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, November
12, 2013 4:21:58 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 12/11/2013 22:14, lr@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm trying to write a program for a problem in class, and
something strange is happening that I can't figure out why is
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:27 AM, lrwarre...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. it was on that pastebin link. I'll
post it again here though. it's no longer than half a page.
Inline means what you did in this post. Out-of-line means providing us
with a link to where the
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:56:35 PM UTC-6, MRAB wrote:
On 12/11/2013 22:27, l...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, November
12, 2013 4:21:58 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 12/11/2013 22:14, lr@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm trying to write a program for a problem in class, and
On 11/11/2013 06:05 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:01:07 -0500, Roy Smith r...@panix.com declaimed the
following:
Ugh, what's this close paren? Does it terminate the get(), or the
print()? I need to go back and count open parens to make sure
No... You need to
Op 12-11-13 12:23, Ned Batchelder schreef:
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:31:32 AM UTC-5, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 11/11/2013 06:16 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
Nikos has received a good deal of genuine advice. He has also been
genuinely difficult to help.
Yes. If he is too difficult to
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM, E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
The point is, when people want to make some computer program available
for use by others around the world they might want to circulate a version of
their program that has such a simple format that anyone can understand
On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:16 AM, Chuck Quast quast...@gmail.com wrote:
why are any of you replying?
A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy” — Clay Shirky, 2003
http://www.shirky.com/writings/herecomeseverybody/group_enemy.html
More practically:
Help Vampires: A Spotter’s Guide” — Amy Hoy, 2006
On 12/11/2013 11:10, Frank-Rene Schäfer wrote:
Admittedly, I have no knowledge about the python implementation.
There is no the regarding Python implementations. Cpython alone is at
either 2.7.6 or 3.3.3 with 3.4 at alpha, then there's IronPython,
Jython, PyPy and lots more that I'm sure
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:14:42 -0800, lrwarren94 wrote:
http://pastebin.com/6QZTvx6Z
Work through your code very very carefully. You're doing something in
each if branch that you probably only want to do once in each execution
of the while loop.
If you can't figure it out, I'll post a
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Isaac Gerg isaac.g...@gergltd.com wrote:
Thanks for the reply Bill. The problem is the text i am getting is from a
python warning message, not one of my own print() function calls.
Since sys.stdout is just an object, you could replace it with
something that
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Victor Stinner
victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2010, a developper called Tav wrote a sandbox called safelite.py:
the sandbox hides sensitive attributes to separate a trusted namespace
and an untrusted namespace.
Ha, I come full circle. This was the exact
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:04 AM, lrwarre...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks a lot! I'll try this out!
Sorry to everyone else whose eyes I made bleed. I've never used a newsgroup
before...still not really sure what they are. Found this through a google
search :\
There's an easy fix. Go to this
On 12/11/2013 17:22, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 12-11-13 12:23, Ned Batchelder schreef:
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:31:32 AM UTC-5, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 11/11/2013 06:16 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
Nikos has received a good deal of genuine advice. He has also been
genuinely difficult to
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
Every time he uses foul language against somebody he's acting like a bully.
Every time he reposts questions and ignores answers he's acting like a
bully.
Every time he declares that what he wants is the most important
On 12/11/2013 23:27, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
Every time he uses foul language against somebody he's acting like a bully.
Every time he reposts questions and ignores answers he's acting like a
bully.
Every time he declares that
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