QOTW [was Re: Attack a sacred Python Cow]
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:42:37 -0700, Russ P. wrote: +1 QOTW Do you realize what an insult that is to everyone else who has posted here in the past week? Actually I don't. I hadn't realised that when a person believes that somebody has made an especially clever, witty, insightful or fun remark, that's actually a put-down of all the other people whose remarks weren't quite as clever, witty, insightful or fun. But now that I've had this pointed out to me, why, I see insults everywhere! Tonight, my wife said to me that she liked my new shirt, so I replied What's the matter, you think my trousers are ugly? -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: QOTW [was Re: Attack a sacred Python Cow]
On 28 Jul 2008 14:07:44 GMT, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:42:37 -0700, Russ P. wrote: +1 QOTW Do you realize what an insult that is to everyone else who has posted here in the past week? Actually I don't. I hadn't realised that when a person believes that somebody has made an especially clever, witty, insightful or fun remark, that's actually a put-down of all the other people whose remarks weren't quite as clever, witty, insightful or fun. But now that I've had this pointed out to me, why, I see insults everywhere! Tonight, my wife said to me that she liked my new shirt, so I replied What's the matter, you think my trousers are ugly? -- Steven It is difficult to not offend the insult-sensitive. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: QOTW [was Re: Attack a sacred Python Cow]
On Jul 28, 9:07 am, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] cybersource.com.au wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:42:37 -0700, Russ P. wrote: +1 QOTW Do you realize what an insult that is to everyone else who has posted here in the past week? Actually I don't. I hadn't realised that when a person believes that somebody has made an especially clever, witty, insightful or fun remark, that's actually a put-down of all the other people whose remarks weren't quite as clever, witty, insightful or fun. But now that I've had this pointed out to me, why, I see insults everywhere! Tonight, my wife said to me that she liked my new shirt, so I replied What's the matter, you think my trousers are ugly? -- Steven No insult was intended. The writer stated that where Java minimizes bad, Python maximizes good. This is a non-trivial truth, and a non- trivial observation. Also, clever. I agreed and said so, and compliments go a long way. Do you? everywhere! Tonight, my wife said to me that she liked my new shirt, so I replied What's the matter, you think my trousers are ugly? Arf, arf. -- For my special power, I want immunity to insults. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: QOTW [was Re: Attack a sacred Python Cow]
On Jul 28, 7:07 am, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] cybersource.com.au wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:42:37 -0700, Russ P. wrote: +1 QOTW Do you realize what an insult that is to everyone else who has posted here in the past week? Actually I don't. I hadn't realised that when a person believes that somebody has made an especially clever, witty, insightful or fun remark, that's actually a put-down of all the other people whose remarks weren't quite as clever, witty, insightful or fun. But now that I've had this pointed out to me, why, I see insults everywhere! Tonight, my wife said to me that she liked my new shirt, so I replied What's the matter, you think my trousers are ugly? -- Steven That would all be true if the comment that was called QOTW was indeed clever or, for that matter, true. It was neither. The idea that Python does not try to discourage bad programming practice is just plain wrong. Ask yourself why Python doesn't allow assignment within a conditional test (if x = 0), for example. Or, why it doesn't allow i++ or ++i? I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to give more examples. Also, the whole idea of using indentation to define the logical structure of the code is really a way to ensure that the indentation structure is consistent with the logical structure. Now, is that a way to encourage good practice, or is it a way to discourage bad practice? The notion that the two concepts are very different (as the QOTW claimed) is just plain nonsense. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list