I stand corrected. When I first read that my thought was that the 'not
well maintained for Emacs' line was a gratuitous slam, since, IMO,
python-mode.el worked fine. I had no idea what he was talking about. In
fact, having used both now pretty extensively for a couple weeks (day on
day off)
Legally, at this point I don't know the legal status of every bit of
code in python-mode.el. Technically, any 'merge' depends on
how we define the term. For me, the answer is yes, since I'm looking at
this project as sort of an optimization exercise
in both features and algorithms. On the leve
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On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
It seems like python-mode.el will never be included in Emacs.
Why is that? Too many contributors? Can't be tracked down?
Won't sign papers?
Just pessimistic we can work out the legal details.
> I had hoped that it would be possible to merge python-mode.el and python.el
> and reduce the confusion and inconvenience of Python X/Emacs users.
> Andreas's opinion is that that is technically impossible and I believe it
> is Dave's opinion that it will be practically impossible from a legal
>> Emacs includes python.el, written by Dave Love, about which there is
>> no legal problem.
> Indeed, and I don't understand what other problem there is with it,
> other than maintenance. Why does it need to be replaced with
> python-mode.el, even if that was properly assigned?
Maintenance is pr
>> Since Andreas Röhler is unwilling to sign legal papers for his
>> code in python.el, we cannot use it in Emacs.
>>
>> Would anyone like to implement for python-mode.el whatever
>> nice features python.el may have? Barry, could you make a TODO list?
> I didn't know any of Andreas' code was in P
However, I don't think it's worth
worrying about it on the basis of someone who's so far quoted some
duplicated keybindings, and a Fixme comment that was clearly mine, as
evidence of all this copied code. If Emacs developers are worried,
please contact me more privately.
Tho
> Canonical does not own my changes to python-mode.el. I am merely
> offering to transfer the copyright to my changes to the FSF. I
> clearly can't do that for changes other people have contributed to the
> file.
> Perhaps I should just disclaim my changes.
> klm is Ken Manheimer.
great
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On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
Kids and wives will do that to you. I have one of each, which is
probably why I use Python and Emacs too. I don't look at human
brains
on a /daily/ basis, but just whenever the opportunity
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On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Andreas Roehler wrote:
Goal was: commands should
- speak for themselves
- need no docu reading
- be easily to put at a key or alias.
Therefor, if we have a compound command, which with an
option changes its behaviour,
> Kids and wives will do that to you. I have one of each, which is
> probably why I use Python and Emacs too. I don't look at human brains
> on a /daily/ basis, but just whenever the opportunity arises. Human
> minds, well, that's a different story.
LOL ;-) human minds are indeed a differ
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On Feb 1, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Dave Love wrote:
Doubtless, but Emacs isn't just for Python programmers, and surely
modes
should be consistent.
That's pretty much a universal design decision across all of software,
isn't it? python.el takes one a
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On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
I am new to the list, so few words about me... I am just one in the
army
of Debian developers and maintainers, I also look at human brains on a
daily basis, and I have 2 kids and a wife ;) and
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On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Beverley Eyre wrote:
Also, if I can make a suggestion, Barry, I think it would be a good
idea to ask Dave, or rms, or someone at GNU, to remove
the derogatory comments about python-mode.el that are gratuitously
includ
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In the meantime, can you fix a few small inaccuracies in python.el?
;; There is another Python mode, python-mode.el, used by XEmacs and
;; maintained with Python. That isn't covered by an FSF copyright
;; assignment, unlike this code, and seems not
Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:33:15 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>>> As Andreas pointed out, we have not yet merged his changes into python-
>>> mode.el.
>>>
>>> I had hoped that it would be possible to merge python-mode.el and
>
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On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Chong Yidong wrote:
Beverley Eyre writes:
From my understanding, no one suggesting cutting and pasting your
code.
Dave's objection, if I understand it correctly, is precisely the
cutting
and pasting of his code:
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On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:33:15 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
As Andreas pointed out, we have not yet merged his changes into
python-
mode.el.
I had hoped that it would be possible to merge python-mod
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