[Python-mode] simplified procedure

2011-01-11 Thread Andreas Röhler


Hi Barry,

thanks for the merges.

With respect to the still considerable amount of
reports and a possible speed up of it's treatment, please
permit some reflexions, how ease the process:

- as for pure typos, whitespace, indent-matters IMHO
  developers should be permitted to push into the trunk
  without prior notice.

- if funktion is changed, newly introduced, we could
  agree a simplified procedure, saying a delay of three
  days, so people may object.

- in cases of fundamental change I won't act without
  your prior consent.

So far

Andreas

PS

https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/string-to-syntax

is still unmerged. It concerns XEmacs only (featurep
'xemacs)...,

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Re: [Python-mode] simplified procedure

2011-01-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hi Andreas,

On Jan 11, 2011, at 09:55 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:

With respect to the still considerable amount of
reports and a possible speed up of it's treatment, please
permit some reflexions, how ease the process:

- as for pure typos, whitespace, indent-matters IMHO
   developers should be permitted to push into the trunk
   without prior notice.

Sure.  I think it's fine to JFDI for trivial patches.  After all, we have a
version control system and post-commit notifications with diffs.  I don't
think you even need to do a merge proposal for those.

- if funktion is changed, newly introduced, we could
   agree a simplified procedure, saying a delay of three
   days, so people may object.

A merge proposal would be nice, and waiting a few days (perhaps with a ping on
email or irc).  Three days is probably fine, though be a little more lenient
around weekends and holidays.  Other than that, if you feel pretty confident
about the change and no one responds, JFDI.

There will be times when you might not be able to get anyone's attention for
various reasons.  I'd say that in the above two cases, you should not let that
block your progress.  Just self-approve the mp and commit.

- in cases of fundamental change I won't act without
   your prior consent.

Yep, behavior changes should require a higher barrier.  A discussion on this
mailing list would always be good (before, during, or after merge proposal is
submitted).

https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/string-to-syntax

is still unmerged. It concerns XEmacs only (featurep
'xemacs)...,

I commented on the mp.

Cheers,
-Barry

P.S. Better to use my @python.org address for this mailing list. :)


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Re: [Python-mode] simplified procedure

2011-01-11 Thread Georg Brandl
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Am 11.01.2011 16:20, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
 Hi Andreas,
 
 On Jan 11, 2011, at 09:55 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
 
With respect to the still considerable amount of
reports and a possible speed up of it's treatment, please
permit some reflexions, how ease the process:

- as for pure typos, whitespace, indent-matters IMHO
   developers should be permitted to push into the trunk
   without prior notice.
 
 Sure.  I think it's fine to JFDI for trivial patches.  After all, we have a
 version control system and post-commit notifications with diffs.  I don't
 think you even need to do a merge proposal for those.

I agree -- in fact that's what I've been doing all the time except for the
new font-lock faces.

- if funktion is changed, newly introduced, we could
   agree a simplified procedure, saying a delay of three
   days, so people may object.
 
 A merge proposal would be nice, and waiting a few days (perhaps with a ping on
 email or irc).  Three days is probably fine, though be a little more lenient
 around weekends and holidays.  Other than that, if you feel pretty confident
 about the change and no one responds, JFDI.
 
 There will be times when you might not be able to get anyone's attention for
 various reasons.  I'd say that in the above two cases, you should not let that
 block your progress.  Just self-approve the mp and commit.
 
- in cases of fundamental change I won't act without
   your prior consent.
 
 Yep, behavior changes should require a higher barrier.  A discussion on this
 mailing list would always be good (before, during, or after merge proposal is
 submitted).

Not sure if you and Andreas agree what a fundamental change or behavior
change is.

Georg
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Re: [Python-mode] simplified procedure

2011-01-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
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On Jan 11, 2011, at 07:40 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:

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Am 11.01.2011 16:20, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
 Sure.  I think it's fine to JFDI for trivial patches.  After all, we have a
 version control system and post-commit notifications with diffs.  I don't
 think you even need to do a merge proposal for those.

I agree -- in fact that's what I've been doing all the time except for the
new font-lock faces.

Me too.

 Yep, behavior changes should require a higher barrier.  A discussion on this
 mailing list would always be good (before, during, or after merge proposal is
 submitted).

Not sure if you and Andreas agree what a fundamental change or behavior
change is.

Oh that's easy.  If it would confuse me or Guido, it counts. :)

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