28, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Charles Hartman
> wrote:
> > My app has only one frame, so for me it's not an issue.
>
> fair enough.
>
> > With the code I showed, the app qu
t 4:00 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Charles Hartman
> wrote:
> \
> > I included these lines in the __init__ for my app's Frame (or rather, in
> a
> > long SetupGUI method that is called by __i
s-platform.
Should this be posted somewhere where newbies (like me again) who are
trying to combine Mac, Python, and wxPython can find it? It is *certainly* not
obvious.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> On Tue, May 28
tem)
if wx.Platform=="__WXMAC__":
wx.App.SetMacExitMenuItemId(item.GetId())
This doesn't work either; OnClose() is never reached.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Charles Hartman
>
013 at 1:07 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Charles Hartman
> wrote:
> > You have pointed me to something bizarre. This is on a Mac. On Mac,
> though
> > quitting the app closes all top-level wi
Thanks, but no. My app never touches EV_CLOSE, and it doesn't do threading
at all.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Paul Wiseman wrote:
> On 27 May 2013 16:26, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
>> I'm coming back to all of this after years away, so I'm sure I'm mi
s quit!
Have I somehow discovered the secret to making a Mac behave like a Windows
machine? (Am I happy?)
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Werner F. Bruhin wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 27/05/2013 19:22, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
>> Running it from the command line doesn't change
stion, I'm posting the problem on the wxPython list.
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 27 May, 2013, at 17:26, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
> > I'm coming back to all of this after years away, so I'm sure I'm missing
> something s
I'm coming back to all of this after years away, so I'm sure I'm missing
something simple. I've brought an old app into the current world:
Python 2.7.5
OS 10.8.3
wxPython 2.9.4.0
py2app 0.7.3
and I rebuilt my setup.py to current specifications. The resulting app
works fine (though i
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Charles Hartman
> wrote:
> > My wxPython ("classic," they call it,
> > for no clear reason;
>
> IN case you're curios -- "classic" refers to it being the latest
> version of the SWIG-based wrappers that h
vant?
Grateful but still bewildered,
Charles Hartman
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
> In article
> ,
> Charles Hartman wrote:
>
> > I'm just coming back to programming after years, trying to recompile an
> old
> > program that works but needs up
I'm just coming back to programming after years, trying to recompile an old
program that works but needs updating and expansion. I'm now on OS 10.6.8,
Python 2.7.2, with wxPython (64/32bit).My newly installed py2app
is: py2app-0.6.4-py2.7.egg. All of these were in earlier versions when I
last
Mazel tov!
How long have you been at this, has? It's a massive project & a massive
service.
Charles Hartman
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
> In article ,
> Andre Renault wrote:
> > On 2011-02-06, at 1:56 PM, has wrote:
> >>Just to let you kn
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
> Charles Hartman wrote:
>
> > it would seem to be short-sighted for anyone interested in Python on
> > the Mac not to support py2app as fully as possible.
>
> You calling me short-sighted, Charles?
>
> That
ince the future of a
language does depend on the size of its user base and not only on the savvy
and enthusiasm of its most expert users -- it would seem to be short-sighted
for anyone interested in Python on the Mac not to support py2app as fully as
possible.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Christopher Barker
wrote:
>
>
> Do I need/want to use py2app to distribute my app(s)?
>>>
>>
>> Never happens.
>>
>
> fair enough.
>
But this is where Bill J's use-case departs drastically from those of many
users, perhaps most, and certainly the majority of th
If I understand correctly, you want to build an editor with a Python
component, rather than interact with an existing editor. If I'm wrong,
maybe AppleScript/TextEdit is a way to go; maybe someone else will have tips
on how to do that.
In wxPython, the wxStyledTextCtrl is essentially a Scintilla-
py2app 0.5.2 fixes everything for me -- 1,002 thanks, Ronald!
Charles Hartman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 28 Jul, 2010, at 9:00, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 28 Jul, 2010,at 12:08 AM, Charles Hartman wrote:
> >
.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.5-py2.6.egg/py2app/apptemplate/prebuilt/main-fat
doesn't exist. The ./prebuilt/ directory is empty.
I'm sure I'm doing something dumb and probably simple.
Charles Hartman
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of Python
and (I think) the latest version of py2app.
> From: Cody Precord
> Date: January 9, 2010 7:28:22 PM EST
> To: Charles Hartman
> Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] font-choice dialog in Snow Leopard
>
> On Jan 9, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
>> I adm
On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Is there a bug tracker for py2app that I could put this in?
Your mouth to gods' ears. How much I wish someone had both the expertise (not
me that's for sure) and the time to take over what is after all *the only way
for ordinary Mac-Pyt
hes when I run the
executable under Snow Leopard. I could begin by just rebuilding with py2app
under Snow Leopard, but I'm nervous, given all the S.L. alarms I've seen here.
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the same token, interested as we are in all senses, we're
pretty thoroughly unqualified to help with the development or even
maintenance of the bundling code.
Charles Hartman
On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 9 Dec, 2009, at 14:08, Kevin Walzer wrote:
After spendin
I have an app that really wants to be on the iPhone (or iPod Touch).
It's in Python. As I understand it, iPhone programming is all
Objective-C. It's years since I did anything with C or C++. Has
anyone had any experience with porting a Python app to that SDK?
Charl
Many thanks. Got it all working. How I would have known that
dispersion.py was trying to import pylab I can't imagine; it doesn't
appear anywhere in the traceback. But now I know and can plot along.
I will do the NLTK list too.
Charles
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", li
Did you try one of the 2.6 installers from the sourceforge download
page:
matplotlib-0.99.1.1-py2.6-macosx10.5.dmg
matplotlib-0.99.1.1-py2.6-macosx-10.3-fat.egg
Yes -- dumb! I just downloaded the wrong (2.5) installer; wherever I
originally got it, the 2.6 wasn't present.
So now I've i
les
On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
I'm using Python 26. I've never used numpy/matplotlib. I tried to
install, for the sake of a program I wanted to try. Numpy worked;
matplotlib didn't.
Is Matplotlib still a problem on 2.6? If so, what should I do about
know Terminal stuff, though I
can do the commands I'm commanded to do …
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the dist folder forced the smaller file-size, but now that doesn't
seem to work either. What am I missing about py2app?
From: sudhakar s
Date: September 13, 2009 2:19:30 AM EDT
To: Charles Hartman
Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] size of py2app app
This happens when you are tr
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:55:54 -0700
From: Christopher Barker
To: pythonmac-sig@python.org
Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] size of py2app app
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Charles Hartman wrote:
My app changes just a
to about 95 MB. I can't pin down anything that makes the
difference. I know "--strip" is the default now, but putting it in or
leaving it out seems to have no effect. What am I missing? I'm using
py2app-0.4.2-py2.6.egg.
Charles Hartman
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that
matters; I don't see anything in the wx.StyledTextControl
documentation that looks helpful, and I imagine I need something lower-
level.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:52:31 -0700
From: Ned Deily
To: pythonmac-sig@python.org
Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app refresher?
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
mkdir /tmp/p2a
cd /tmp/p2a
svn co http://svn.pythonmac.org/py2app/py2app/trunk/
easy_install trunk/
Many th
On Jul 21, 2009, at 6:00 AM, pythonmac-sig-requ...@python.org wrote:
Try upgrading to py2app (0.4.2) from svn trunk. One of the items in
the
news file there:
"Remove dependency on a 'version.plist' file in the python framework"
Something like this (untested) should work (and avoid potential
have I failed to update something I needed to update?
Thanks for any guidance.
Charles Hartman
copying /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/Resources/
Info.plist -> /Users/chartman/Documents/Python/Concord/dist/
Concord.app/Contents/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/
er) since I did this, and though I've kept up
with current versions of Python (2.5), Wing, and wxPython (2.8.x),
I've probably neglected some basic housekeeping.
Pointers to a simple how-to-build-an-app doc would be welcome. Than
ress toward making that not true? And
isn't that a good thing? Can't Python be an OSX programming
enrivonment rather than (as well as) a Darwin one?
I suppose the simple way would be a tiny Applescript drag-and-drop
that just called easy_install . . .
Charles Hartman
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On Jul 15, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:Says universal here, don't know what the problem is with your app. It does strangely enough default to open using Rosetta though, no idea why it's doing that. Looks like I had set LSPrefersPPC to True by default. If you want apps to run natively by d
link from
undefined.org/python to the older py2app? I had forgotten the twists
& turns, and that's where I went to check that I had the latest py2app.
Charles Hartman
On Jul 15, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> On Jul 15, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
sions of Python and wxPython, is an "Application
(PowerPC)" -- why doesn't it say "Application (Universal)"?
2. What's behind the bloat? Is it simply that it is a Universal app,
though Get Info doesn't recognize it as that? And is ther
ve IDLE's Tkinter underpinnings it doesn't make
writing GUI code with wxPython difficult. (I suppose its wxPython
underpinnings could make it difficult to write Tkinter code.)
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On Apr 24, 2006, at 7:53 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2006, at 4:47 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Chris, Kevin, and Bob. Yes, I should have changed the
>> thread name. I stayed with it because it's where Kevin posted the
>> good news
*either* Universal build of Python-
for-the-Macintosh 2.4 seems to work with the pre-release Universal of
wxPython 2.6.3.2 -- after something's done to fix the lib location.
Charles Hartman
On Apr 24, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Charle
On Apr 24, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Charles Hartman wrote:
>> I did the "obvious":
>> sudo mv /usr/local/lib/wxPython-unicode-2.6.3.2rc1 /usr/local/
>> lib/ wxPython-unicode-2.6.3.2
>> and it seems to work. Did I create havoc som
On Apr 24, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
>>>>> import wx
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>File "", line 1, in ?
>>File "//Library/Frameworks/Python.fram
On Apr 24, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
>>>> import wx
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "", line 1, in ?
>File "//Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/
> python2.4/site-packages/wx-2.6-mac-unicode/wx/__init__.py
inking new module: /Library/Frameworks/
Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wx-2.6-mac-
unicode/wx/_core_.so: Library not loaded: /usr/local/lib/wxPython-
unicode-2.6.3.2/lib/libwx_macud-2.6.0.dylib
Referenced from: /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/
lib/python2
It's amazing what a nice, shiny, new icon can do for morale. I'm
breathing better already. (And I'm not even being ironic.) That's a
sixteen-ton weight off my chest.
Charles Hartman
On Apr 24, 2006, at 1:18 AM, Jacob Rus wrote:
> Zachery Bir wrote:
>> Bob Ippo
A new edition of the Nutshell? That is great news! That's the book I go back to, out of a dozen I've got, most often. Updated for 2.5 perhaps?Charles HartmanOn Apr 22, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Alex Martelli wrote:Then, I had the deadline for the 2nd ed of the Nutshell, then a week's vacation at the Gra
On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Perhaps the "snakes" logo should be larger, filling more of the icon,
> particularly at the smaller sizes. There isn't any real info in the
> "paper" background.
FWIW, I
I think one frequent reason people fall back on 'from xxx import *' is simply that typing the whole module name over and over gets tedious and makes the code sprawl. I find 'import xxx as yyy' very useful for this, since it can give you a nice short alias, still readable if you're careful about nam
On Apr 19, 2006, at 10:23 AM, corporate user wrote:Naively, I start with a script in my ~/src folder and I end with an application in my ~/src folder. Like a typical Apple user, I treat the bundle as the code itself and don't bother to dwell on its content or structure. I now understand what
It seems to me that it would be a good idea to UNLINK this site
(http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/) -- remove all links to it
from pythonmac.org, to begin with. In fact, I'd call it urgent.
Charles Hartman
On Apr 18, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Advertising Department wrote:
> (I&#
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:Does that help? It does. Thanks -- and also to others who answered my request for ammo, in case I get to engage on the Python side. I don't think my CompSci is going to listen to a Prof of English, and I can't push too hard; but it's good to be
indow (without changing redirection) to stay onscreen as long
as one liked. A little baroque, but pretty easy.
Charles Hartman
On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Louis Pecora wrote:
> Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>> Hi Louis,
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Louis Pecora wrote:
>&
(sorry -- I meant to post this to the list)Begin forwarded message:From: Charles Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: April 12, 2006 7:23:20 AM EDTTo: Louis Pecora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it. For some notes on errata in the bo
this from memory so the details are hazy.
Charles Hartman
On Apr 11, 2006, at 5:43 PM, Louis Pecora wrote:
> I bought the wxPython in Action book and started trying the simple
> examples in Chap. 1. One thing I have run into is rather
> disappointing. Many errors (e.g. I typed retu
--unless you want to write cross-platform-capable GUI programs. Then
you're best off using wxPython, which isn't available as Universal
yet, though probably soon.
So for the moment, the current non-Universal (PPC) 2.4 is the more
prudent bet.
Charles Hartman
On Apr 11, 200
On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Opstad, Dave wrote:On 4/10/06 12:11 PM, "Louis Pecora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #!/usr/bin/pythonw > > import wx > > class App(wx.App): > def OnInit(self): > frame = wx.Frame(parent=None, title="BaRe") > frame.Show() > return true > > ap
I can answer your second question: You're being confused by the Mac
folder system vs the underlying Unix filesystem.
All folders are (really, underlyingly) directories, but not all
directories show up on the desktop as folders.
Your home directory is, in Unix terms, someplace like
/Us
I've been campaigning with the main teacher of programming on my campus -- from my thoroughly non-leveraged position as prof of English -- to consider switching from Java to Python, for all the reasons which will be obvious to everybody here. (The existence of "wxPython in Action" is the decisive e
it's not an intro to Python itself.)
Charles Hartman
On Apr 4, 2006, at 12:41 PM, w chun wrote:
> On 4/4/06, Christopher Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Charles Hartman wrote:
>>> Excellent news. I'll hope that, by the time these students get go
Excellent news. I'll hope that, by the time these students get going
(they'll be using wxPython), there will be a wxPython Universal too.
Thanks!
coh
On Apr 4, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 4-apr-2006, at 14:19, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
>> I remem
liminate a branch, incomprehension diminishes by 36.8%, so
getting rid of "If you're on a Mac, this line should end with
'pythonw' rather than 'python' …" would be nice.
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Chris,Are you still planning to work on wxPython? That would be great -- I can't really use the Universal Python till that works too. I'd be glad to help, and I'm not lazy -- but I sure am ignorant, so I don't think I have much to contribute to this.Charles HartmanOn Mar 30, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Chris
I know I'm ignorant, but this seems to me really bizarre. Why would
you go through all that? What doesn't wxPython (for example) do, that
you need a GUI to do?
Charles
On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
>> Do you really not know about Py2App? It occasionally has some tricky
>>
On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Bill Janssen wrote:
>> If it influences the answers, I am looking to build a cross-platform
>> application that I eventually want to be able to package for easy
>> installation by non-Python savvy users.
>
> I don't see a good alternative to using Apple's version, th
I'm still not *quite* clear on the interactions here.
1. wxPython still isn't Universal, though there are rumblings in the
distance. Until that happens, is it possible to use the emerging
Universal build of Python with the PPC build of wxPython? I guess I
mean, possible to make command-line
Many thanks to all who have enlightened me on this! Little by
little . . .
Charles
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(Sorry! How simple can they get? But I don't know of a better place
to ask -- does anyone?)
How do I execute a Mac application from the Terminal command line?
Specifically, I'm trying to specify BBEdit in the EDITOR environment
variable which is consulted by IPython. EDITOR= what? Not /
Appl
Quick reaction: As a list-member with no possible personal use for
job postings here, I say, Fine. Interesting to see. If there get to
be a lot, they could be broken out into a sublist perhaps. And if
they look bogus, we get to get together & pelt the senders with eggs.
(Courtesy of cheeses
(I don't know where this goes. I've phrased it for Terminal beginners
-- now *there's* a phrase.)
IPython is a replacement for the default Python interpreter. It
includes better history and tab-completion features, provides more
elaborate ways of inspecting objects
It turns out there's a rather helpful page at
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~tobis/pylab.html
which (since I'm not using matplotlib) I might never have found, but
which is referred to in the manual for IPython.
Some of this stuff could be gathered together for the wiki . . . I'll
look at doing
On Mar 7, 2006, at 2:39 AM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Charles Hartman wrote:
>> I'm getting really tired of not understanding this: Can someone
>> point me to some single place that explains the whole path /
>> PATH / PYTHONPATH arrangement for Python? I know t
I'm getting really tired of not understanding this: Can someone point
me to some single place that explains the whole path / PATH /
PYTHONPATH arrangement for Python? I know there are two sorts on the
Mac, framework and /usr, and I know some other bits and pieces, but I
have no clear overal
But the Mac Help program has always been and still is a dog. I'd much
rather have the HTML docs myself.
Charles
On Mar 6, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On Monday, March 06, 2006, at 05:13PM, Samuel M. Smith
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I asked this before but no one re
My interest in the universal build of 2.4.2 has gotten less abstract,
because I just (just) got my Intel iMac.
I guess I *might* figure out how to build Python 2.4 for myself,
though it would be guaranteed to produce a lot of messages to list
asking dumb questions . . .
So I'm wondering if
On Feb 14, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
> As I already replied off-list, I don't like this picture at all. It
> is a lot
> less tastefull than the icon on Bob's website (which I do like).
> The only reason
> for having a discussion about the icon anyway is that some people
> cla
Never mind. The previous message was supposed to get canceled.
Charles
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ts of Parnassus site
http://www.vex.net/parnassus/
is kind of a grab-bag, but shouldn't we include a pointer to it or
(better) foreground some of what it offers?
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On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
> I've updated my strawman page at
On Feb 11, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 11-feb-2006, at 1:40, Charles Hartman wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
>>
>>> And how about bundling tcltkaqua into it, as well?
>>
>> Because some o
On Feb 11, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:This whole gigantic discussion is about making MacPython more friendly. To do so, we must consolidate our efforts and offer documentation and support for One Way To Do It, which is going to be a framework build of Python 2.4.2 with a lot of hac
On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:Though, frankly, I don't care what the trademark is, and I think people tend in real usage to use "MacOS". Well . . . not for people I know. "OSX" ["OS X"] is more common in my experience, especially among those aware that OS9 was a Mac OS.And I suspe
On Feb 10, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
>> Charles Hartman wrote:
>>> It seems to me (as *much* closer to a newbie than a developer) that
>>> simply recommending the download & install of Python 2.4.x not only
>>> wouldn't put a major obst
On Feb 10, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:And how about bundling tcltkaqua into it, as well? Because some of us, at least, have no interest in tcl. I'm not clear whether its presence interferes with wx (thing #421 that I'm not clear about), but it doesn't help; why should I want it on my syst
It seems to me (as *much* closer to a newbie than a developer) that
simply recommending the download & install of Python 2.4.x not only
wouldn't put a major obstacle in the way of beginners, but wouldn't
seem to, either. That one step isn't a problem -- if we can get to
the point where that
That's exactly the kind of fix that -- together with a handful of
others -- could make this make-over work.
Incorporating the TigerPython24Fix and TigerPython23Compat patches
would be another small, huge step. Can the 2.4 installer look at the
system and decide which of these is needed?
The
I have an IDLE.app on my 10.4 machine. Since I haven't really used it, I can't remember if it came with Tiger, or showed up when I installed Python 2.4 -- does everyone with OS 10.4 have it? Is it just a shell to call idlelib? If so, is there any way to tell whether it calls with python or with py
Well, so PythonIDE is dead. (It hasn't been well for a long time.)
How ready-for-prime-time is IDLE? What drawbacks are there to
recommending it to beginners? What can't you do? Do I remember that
it uses TKinter? Does it make wx impossible to use? I haven't used
it, so I'm asking out of ig
On Feb 8, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Louis Pecora wrote:
> Charles Hartman wrote:
>> I'm afraid that you're right about this, and I think it's the
>> biggest obstacle to the project of getting (non-Unix) Mac users
>> interested in Python when they go looking for
e. ("I had to learn sudo to do X,
and it's great,
and now I'm going to try . . .")
This is why people are afraid of Terminal, and the fear isn't
*totally* irrational.
Charles
On Feb 8, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Charles Hartman wrote:
>> I
On Feb 8, 2006, at 2:26 PM, Dethe Elza wrote:Hmmm. If they don't know that Python is a programming language, why are they here? Familiarity with the terminal app and knowing how to save python as a text file are certainly prerequisites at this point though. I agree with the first point -- w
Thanks Chris. What's below is not a complete response, just a couple of specific, interim notes while I study up on the rest.Charles On Feb 8, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:also I hope a prominent one slapped onto the top of the MacPythonsite.)Do you mean Jack Jansen's site?Yes. I'm th
006, at 12:00 PM, Louis Pecora wrote:
> Charles Hartman wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Louis Pecora wrote:
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>> I'd like to get some feedback on the organization I proposed
>> before I start trying to flesh anything out. The better the
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On Feb 8, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Louis Pecora wrote:
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> I agree with the 2 teams approach and hope I can add something to the
> non-pro/scientific user end. I would encourage Charles H. to get the
> new web page up sooner than later. That's not demanding he work and I
> watch, but I think that se
I'm watching these responses & collecting views. (Obviously I'm also
watching for comments on my "New Page, first proposal" outlline.)
I'll propose changes to the page organization when things settle out
a little more.
Charles
Charles Hartman
Professor
This is a little separate from my previous message, though it speaks
to question #2 in that message.
Somebody who comes idly to the idea of programming in Python, and
finds the pythonmac page, will be happy if the result is an
afternoon's work that ends in a "hello world," possibly in a wind
OK, here's the first donkey -- please step up to the line & fire when ready.The project is to build a new front page for pythonmac.org that will serve as a welcome and introduction for anyone who wants to write Python programs on the Mac. (An assumption behind this is that the site will come up qui
Me & my big mouth. OK, I will take a serious look at the page, and
see whether I can construct something that at least gets to the point
of having blanks that someone with knowledge can fill in.
Charles
On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Charles, if you want to help, her
I'm speculating that if the (rather small) gaps in the
unpack-it-and-run scenario were filled, there might be a useful
additonal user base for Python on the Mac. That's all.
Charles
On Feb 6, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
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