equired in it.
> >
> > I think, on startup, it loads a empty default project, presumably
> "default_project.maproom"
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> > So I think that's where the app startup code is barfing, not having the
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k --
"just" some new build scripts.
Anyway, if the folks that want this do the work, it looks like it can
happen, and if not, then I guess we won't get it.
Fair enough.
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> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 1:34 AM Ronal
any of you have autoconf expertise and the inclination, I'd
love to see this get done, and would be glad to help as best I can.
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> I *think* there are no real technical show stoppers, but it would take
> some auto-conf magic, which I am fully unqualified to take on.
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> Anyone interested in helping make this happen ?
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with @rpath and @loader_path is lost before the code that
> should use the information is active. I have rewriting that code on my too
> long todo list.
> >
> > Note that this works for me, with the Python.org installation of Python.
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> Many thanks,
> Tim
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should be
built in a way that’s appropriate for those users.
I have been happy use the python.org builds and py2app + PyQt5.
>
Exactly— I’m not suggesting anything change for folks like you.
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onda folks decided not to do that in the first place,
but they didn't, and no one seems to want to do it now.
I suppose I could set it up and submit a PR and see what folks think, but
the big question is: what does a Framework Build by conda? ANd I think the
answer is nothing, except that we al
rpreter, you
are managing all the the dependencies anyway.
Now someone just needs the time to do it :-(
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time and skills to do it -- such is the world of open source.
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suppoted by essentially a standard *nix build, but with the executable
redirecting to inside an app bundle trick.
That would also work fine for the "Unix folks" -- for brew and the like.
The only question I'm not sure on is if it would work for the
p
works for python.org builds,
though I don't know if he decided not to make that change, or simply hasn't
gotten around to it.
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> Jack
>
> On 14-Mar-2020, at 14:54 , Ronald Oussoren
> wr
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building into the GUI toolkits?
Do you have a reference to that API?
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you couldn't
build a app that way.
By the way, it's great to "see" all you from back in the day -- this has
been a very quiet list lately!
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stalled that way. If that can be done by
the app store, great.
>> The problem is that I *really* don't have the autoconf skills to do that!
>
> But I'm hoping with some prodding and show of support, someone with take
> it on :-)
>
>
> I won’t, finding time to work on Py
n that builds Intel, 64bit, fairly recent
SDK, and the pythonw hack, into an otherwise "standard" unix-like build.
Then that could become the default OS-X build in the future, exactly when
TBD.
The problem is that I *really* don't have the autoconf skills to do that!
But I
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> On 15 Dec 2016, at 17:34, Christopher Barker wrote:
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> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:59 AM Ronald Oussoren
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>>
>> > Frameworks have the nice feature that everything related to the
>> framework is stored in a single location
At All.
Anyway, it should be easy to see how well the new wheels work with conda --
and/or make a conda recipe -- maybe I'll get to it soon.
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Personally, I have avoided all this mess the last couple years by using
conda (miniconda install). It does a nice job of keeping entirely separate
from the system ( or any other) python, and it can manage non-python libs
as well, so you don't need Brew. And it has environments that are like
virtual
The configure script should come with the source. It is specific to that
particular package, not a system script.
But brew should do that for you anyway.
I have no idea what Appium is, but it looks like it depends on Python --
you probably neeed to install the brew version of Python first.
I wou
ad.php#unstable
So it's coming soon, and the more people that test it now, the better.
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Russel Owen (on this list) has built PIL binaries and
posted them on a site of his -- it's not a very public site, but some
googling (or searching this and/or the PIL list) should find it.
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Karsten Wolf wrote:
Try this. Assuming your text file was encoded in UTF-8. Read the docs
about unicode and encoding.
exactly. Read this:
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html
and then this:
http://boodebr.org/main/python/all-about-python-and-unicode
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works all, actually! ) The python.org builds are easy to use, install,
and what py2app is mostly targeting and most tested with. I"m not sure
of the state of binaries for pyQT, but they have certainliy existed in
the past, and numpy is no problem.
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hon. I now get import error:
no module named appkit
I think you need to install PyObjC for the python.org python to get
appkit (though I'm no expert there).
Do you really need both appkit and wxPython? You may well, I'm sure I'm
showing my ignorance here.
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I'd install the python from python.org, and try again with that. It's
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trying, and
encouraged others to do the same. That experience may be the result of
bugs that no longer exist.
OTOH, if, indeed, using the system python results in a smaller bundle
that works just fine on all versions of OS-X >= to the one it was built
on -- that could be really nice and us
on (it can't include python itself)
That should be "is really *NOT* expected to work right...". :)
oops, yes, that is what I meant!
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the entirety of the "build" and "dist" directories and re-run
py2app -- sometimes left over cruft gets in the way when you change things.
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use a dialog, but if you have some
common ones you use, a few utility functions are easy to whip up. It's
usually used for full-on event driven GUIs, but I've enclosed a sample
of using dialogs in a procedural, or script-like program.
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.mpg bundle. I don't think I've ever seen one
with a uninstaller, as a matter of fact.
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ironed out, it should take us well into
the future on the Mac.
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option, though. Probably not as good as pyObjC
for Mac-only stuff, but it's great for multi platform development, and
does work quite well on OS-X.
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for application specific resources, rather than package-specific.
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Re-posting -- for some reason this didn't seem to show up in the list.
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Original Message
Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and stripped os.environ
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:09:28 -0400
From: Ronald Oussoren
To: Christopher Barker
CC: pythonmac-sig@python.org
I don't know if that's a robust way to do it or not. If nothing else, it
assumes that the user's default shell is bash, which is common, but not
guaranteed.
so:
1) is there a better way to accomplish this task?
2) if so, does it make sense to built it into py2app as an option
uld he just add the framework flag and be done?
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On 3/1/11 1:58 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
When I look at the one in :
/usr/local/lib/wxPython-unicode-2.8.11.0/lib/
(which I got from a wxPython binary), I get:
$ cat libwx_macud-2.8.0.dylib | strings | grep ABI
2.8 (debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 102,wx containers,compatible
with 2.6
Apple's wx, by accident, or are you
using a newer wxPython than 2.8.11 ?
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es': 'wx'
you don't need to specify the wx package -- if there is an "import wx"
in your code, py2app will find it.
,'site_packages': True
And I don't remember what this does -- try taking it out and see what
you get.
-Chris
-
: 9.1MB
minimal wxPython app: 43MB
But the wxPython one does compress down to 17MB
wxPython is so big because it has all of the wx C++ libs, plus all the
wrapper code to access it. It is unfortunately pretty monolithic, so
it's very hard to bring in just what you need. But disk space is chea
using directions about that on some sites -- so make sure
to use ditutils to build -- i.e. write a "setup.py". That's the best
way to do it on other platfroms anyway.
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://pychecker.sourceforge.net/
It'll likely find other stuff you want to know about as well.
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, and I've
tried all the switches that looked like they might have something.
You'd think it would, though -- maybe I missed something.
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e.
It is probably shortsighted. Given everything, installing a python.org
version of python might make things more consistent and easier.
I think so -- and yes, it's one more install, but it's a pretty darn
easy one.
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that will be best.
-- take a look in the generated app bundle -- it's just a directory --
you can see what's in there, and it will give you a clue.
What about path settings ??
py2app should take care of that, but looking at sys.path will let you
know if it's doing it "
y:
1) adding the extra stuff in as required packages in your setup.py
or
2) writing some post-flight code into your setup.py that copies what you
need into the app bundle --it's just a well-structured directory, after all.
good luck!
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nt to support other platforms, wxPython or
pyQT is the way to go. (pyGTK is so non-native on the Mac I wouldn't
consider it, and I don't think pyGUI is very mature yet)
(the binaries for wxPython work with both the Apple and python.org
builds -- 32 bit only for the moment)
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t;cd the/full/path/to/setup; python setup.py install)
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declare the python.org builds as the "official" ones
and try to get third party projects to build binaries for them
If you need help with macports, ask on a macports list, etc.
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??? are available as
nifty easy to use installers?
There really aren't very many people for whom "build it from source" is
the best option.
Final NOTE: It's great that Bill takes this approach -- he's gotten
things working and helped others a lot -- someone'
are installing into the app bundle (cool idea!), then you'll need
to make sure that USER_BASE and USER_SITE are set correctly at run time
for where the user happens to have put the py2app bundle.
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ication from an installed python.org build.
You sure would if you put it in the same place as Apple's but the
installers don't do that.
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need,
the question is how to get them properly into the py2app bundle.
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k you could specifically
search for the utility in places it might be expected to be found:
/usr/bin
/usr/local/bin
/sw/... (for fink)
/opt/... (for macports)
rather then expect it to be on the PATH.
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On 11/29/10 10:15 AM, s...@pobox.com wrote:
Drop the ".0" and I think you've got it:
http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7/
yup -- thanks Richard and Skip -- thank god for restfull urls!
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2.7.1 builds, or at least a link on
the python.org site somewhere obvious for the 2.7.0 builds!
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6]: subset = ['red','green','blue','purple']
In [17]: [c for c in colors if c in subset]
Out[17]: ['red', 'green', 'blue']
(so much for one obvious way to do it!)
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On 10/15/10 6:49 AM, Daniel O'Donovan wrote:
But Freeze may be of interest to you : http://wiki.python.org/moin/Freeze or
even PyInstaller http://www.pyinstaller.org (though I don't use either)...
or bbFreeze.
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ent on any OS-X specific libs?
BTW. While it is possible to tweak py2app to do its work on a Linux box
I'm not interested in doing the work.
Frankly, I don't see it as worth the effort.
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cked_New in example_wrap.o
_SWIG_Python_newvarlink in example_wrap.o
"_PyExc_NameError", referenced from:
_swig_varlink_getattr in example_wrap.o
_swig_varlink_setattr in example_wrap.o
"_PyInstance_Type", refere
rs.
well -- I don't think it does all that much, and the only tricky part
should be what's also used in py2app, so it may not be that bad.
I suspect the problem is with binary libs, not with bdist_mpkg.
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On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Christopher Barker wrot
that?
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I have disabled the wiki for now, but did enable the issue tracker.
and my symlink isn't helping as much as I thought it was. Using main-fat
as main-i386 will generate a working app, though.
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see
the output when it runs)
Does this work for you?
Note that is puts _sha265.so in:
hashlib_test.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload
Maybe not much help, but you know you aren't alone...
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hat which version of python it used would be set at
build time. Python 2.3 was delivered with OS-X 10.4 -- perhaps your
scribus binary was set up to use that?
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id he couldn't
use py2exe's code for including the icon because of licensing, but it
looked like the license was compatible to me. With a little
encouragement, maybe he'd be glad to share more.
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specified by the caller.
yup. Maybe not worth it.
I haven't looked at the ctypes code yet. I would be worth it if it
can be done with little effort, but not when it requires major
engineering.
If you can find the time, that would be great!
Thanks again for all your work in this.
-Chri
that
ctypes looks in this special location before looking at the full name
specified by the caller.
yup. Maybe not worth it.
Actually finding which libraries are loaded using ctypes will sadly
enough be impossible in general, although recipes could be used for
the popular libaries.
Agree
a I-don't-care-how-big-it-is-I-just-want-it-to-work
version, you could use a superset of runt-time and source-code analysis.
I do want to be clear that py2app has been the best bundle builder I've
used, and I really appreciate Ronald's effort to bring it up to speed again.
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the user could specify which
libs ctypes used, and py2ap would put them in the bundle.
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tting
things done, it shouldn't be too big a deal to do it -- it's easier to
port code to a newer python than an older one.
Thanks so much for working on this.
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In
Christopher Barker wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm trying to test the latest py2app updates. However, easy_install is
failing in a number of places. I'm trying:
easy_install py2app==dev
but get errors in the modulegraph dependency.
It looks like somehow pypi doesn't know about modu
ing away, and maybe do a straight non-setuptools install,
but it would be nice if this could get cleaned up.
I'm a bit lost when it comes to setuptools, so I'm not sure I can work
out a patch.
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He's been pretty
responsive on his list.
By the way -- he did post on this list at one point looking for
volunteers to work on the Mac version of bb-freeze, and I don't think he
got any takers.
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Ronald Oussoren wrote:
modulegraph should be platform independent
indeed -- it's used by bbfreeze:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/bbfreeze/0.96.5
Though I think he's forked it. But it might be good to get in touch and
see if he's got patches to integrate.
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7;s generally the preferred distribution format,
zip or dmg?
I suppose dmg is a little better, but either one is fine.
Thanks for all this work!
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Matthias Baas wrote:
Christopher Barker wrote:
Ha! I haven't had a look at selftest.py before. That script requires an
inplace build which I didn't do. Instead, I was pointing PYTHONPATH
inside the build directory
yup -- that will confuse things.
But when I link
against the stati
Matthias Baas wrote:
Christopher Barker wrote:
great -- are any of them running 10.4?
I have little time, but here is the short version:
The goal is to get a PIL binary that is statically linked to all of its
dependencies, and those dependencies are all universal (32 bit PPC and
Intel) and
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bundle, install the Python2.6 from
Python org, install all the packages you need, get your app running
there, install py2app into that Python, then build away.
That's really the way to do it.
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Yury V. Zaytsev wrote:
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 12:57 -0700, Christopher Barker wrote:
If these work well, I think Fredrik will put them on the PIL site.
If you need a permanent mirror in the States, here you go:
http://packages.zaytsev.net/python/
Thanks, though ideally these would be
better job out of the box.
The other option, of course, is to write multiple GUIs -- my experience
is that it takes a LOT of code to write a GUI -- so that's a lot of work!
-Chris
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Matthias Baas wrote:
Christopher Barker wrote:
Much to my surprise, I had a little time to build some PIL binaries:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/855965/PIL-OSX-Binaries/PIL-1.1.7-py2.5-macosx10.5.mpkg.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/855965/PIL-OSX-Binaries/PIL-1.1.7-py2.6-macosx10.5.mpkg.zip
I built
ely on to get ported.
Oh well. It's a big package!
-Chris
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-Chris
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