context wouldn't make
much sense on comp.lang.python.
As far as the security issues, I agree, that's a concern. My basic idea
is to expose a selection of commands in my application, either wrapped
in AppleScript commands or simply as Python commands accessed via the
"run scri
On 1/4/10 11:24 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
On 1/4/10 8:18 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
On 1/4/10 6:37 AM, has wrote:
This is very weird, and I have no clue how to untangle it. My app won't
respond to Apple Events at all without a valid sdef file in the bundle's
Resources directory. Howev
On 1/4/10 8:18 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
On 1/4/10 6:37 AM, has wrote:
Sounds like you forgot to add an OSAScriptingDefinition entry
containing the sdef's filename to your info.plist.
Also, bear in mind that sdef-only apps won't work in 10.4 or earlier;
if that's a concern then
well.
That worked, thanks. But now Script Editor complains about a "corrupted
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continuing difficulties with py2app.
Any advice is appreciated...
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, unfortunately.
I've tried the maxheader trick before in the past, and it hasn't worked,
but I don't feel like recompiling Tcl/Tk this time. Too much work when
bundlebuilder is an easier, functioning solution.
In the meantime, you might want to ping Ronald Oussoren with your
pa
uld try to give it a large
-headerpad value at link (look in man ld), that's at least worth a try.
Do you know which library it is? Is it open-sourced? I may give it a shot in
that case.
It's just Tkinter--I have a four-way build (32/64 bit for PPC and Intel)
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I've seen this before, and am not sure how to fix it.
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Carbon made removing those bits from the standard library the only sane
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nching new instances of Python with a generic icon--at least, this
has been reported on their mailing list WRT wxPython apps. So it doesn't
seem ready for prime time yet either.
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On 12/9/09 12:32 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
Kevin Walzer wrote:
Bundlbuilder doesn't really argvemulation anyway, since hooks for this
exist in all the major GUI libraries (Tk, wxPython, and certainly
PyObjC).
I actually use argv emulation more for non-gui apps -- a way for folks
x27;s the best way to keep bundlebuilder available for Python 3.x?
Submit a feature request at the bug tracker? Or separate it out, and
submit a PyPi project?
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e four-way universal builds. So PySide may not be the
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n, and I've seen
other problems on the list with PyObjC. I don't know enough about
macholib to offer a patch, and no one else has had time to delve into
it. If you run across a solution, some of us would be glad to hear it!
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2-bit app (using Tk-Cocoa). I don't think Ronald
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more specific about what you want to do? What's a "droplet"?
And since you reference AppleTalk (do you mean AppleScript), is this
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On 10/7/09 6:12 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
Could you post the 4-way universal build of Tcl/Tk somewhere, that way I
can debug on SL.
Ronald
Done:
http://www.codebykevin.com/64-bit-tcl-tk-aqua.pkg.zip
Thanks,
Kevin
Any update on getting py2app/macholib to work with a four-way universal
911 read to have the Framework copied over correctly
I wonder if the problem is with py2applet and the build script it
generates? Writing your own setup.py script for py2app isn't very hard,
and wxPython is well-supported by py2app. Try writing your own script
and see what happens.
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On 10/11/09 3:36 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
BTW, I see there is now a py2app 0.4.3 available which should have a
proper fix for the "TypeError: int argument required" regression.
Still can't build a four-way 64-bit universal binary of a Tkinter app
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Could you post the 4-way universal build of Tcl/Tk somewhere, that way I
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Ronald
Done:
http://www.codebykevin.com/64-bit-tcl-tk-aqua.pkg.zip
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come up with.
The bundlebuilder approach is actually OK as a short-term solution. I am
planning an app release in the next couple of weeks and don't want to
hold it up for the py2app issues. I'm amazed that bundlebuilder still
works!
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(struct.unpack(endian + cls._format_, s), **kw)
error: unpack requires a string argument of length 8
>
/Users/kevin/Programming/phynchronicity/build/bdist.macosx-10.5-universal/egg/macholib/ptypes.py(48)from_str()
-> return cls.from_tuple(struct.unpack(endian + cls._format_, s), **kw)
Any i
with it as well.
I'm using the current HEAD of the macholib repository.
Ronald
I downloaded and installed svn trunk (revision 31) of macholib from
svn.pythonmac.org--still have the same problem. Is there somewhere else
I should look?
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hink py2app should be able to handle
building a Tkinter application as 64-bit without these errors; Tkinter
isn't some weird edge case. I've installed the latest dev versions of
py2app and macholib. I'm also running 10.5.8.
Thanks,
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hough this particular Apple Event isn't illustrated
in the documentation, nor have I found sample code for this. Any advice
is appreciated, and if I'm successful in implementing something like
this, I'll post the sample code somewhere.
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more to allow Python apps to drive *other* AppleScriptable apps via the
OSA. I'm interested in the opposite. I understand that there used to be
some modules to support this, but they appear to be deprecated.
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iring, they appear to fire as expected (i.e.
"paste" starts out working as normal before hanging).
No Python or Tk error messages are printed to output/console, so I can't
trace the issue that way either.
Any suggestions on other avenues I can look at? I'm a bit
e same as python.org ones.
So it is just advantages in using the macports one I think :)
This is the main reason to use a packaging system like MacPorts or
Fink--if you have a complicated set of libraries to build, they can
streamline things. Otherwise there is no particular advantage to usin
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IDLE play nice regardless of whether Tk is built on Carbon or Cocoa:
http://bugs.python.org/issue6075
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early enough to get this fixed
in Tk itself.
Mailing list traffic has yielded some documented workarounds, which I
will attempt to implement in IDLE. I don't think patching Tk for this is
in the cards.
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wxOSX. I'm not sure it's been integrated into
wxPython yet, and certainly there are no officially supported 64-bit
builds of wxPython, but perhaps soon.
See this blog entry: http://wiki.wxwindows.org/Development:_wxMac
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this would break IDLE on
other platforms.
Simply re-naming the "help" menu to something else is preferable and
simpler to wrapping the menu_specs dict in a lot of platform-specific
logic: I've tried adding some "if macosxSupport.runningAsOSXApp():"
lines to the code
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support Tk 8.6, when Cocoa will move from a fork to trunk in Tk
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ps that look awful on the Mac, and some wxWidgets
wrappings of Mac widgets--such as a combox--don't look correct at all.
On the other hand, a wxPython app like Editra, which really pays
attention to the way it's implemented on the Mac, looks great.
Kevin Walzer wrote:
You've do
versal build of Python and Tk-Cocoa. IDLE looks a bit weird
because of some menu layout issues (there are a few differences between
Tk-Carbon and Tk-Cocoa), but those can be adjusted with some patches--I
may work some up at the appropriate time.
Thanks,
Kevi
de.
Does this sound like a good approach, or am I missing something
glaringly obvious? What do others who are shipping PyObjC apps do?
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some useful hits. I based my code on some snippets used there (the
PythonIDE stuff, in particular).
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os.system('open -a Help Viewer.app /path/to/help.html')
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limited support for displaying HTML, but it will give
you an idea of the issues.
Since you're using wxPython, can't you just call either the wxHelp API
(a bit complicated if I recall correctly) or simply create a simple HTML
viewer? I think something like that is in the wxPython dem
DLE.app; when it's run from the command-line,
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g the undesired "rocket launch"
and fix it, or at least work around it? Woudn't a non-framework,
Unix-style build of Python avoid these issues altogether?
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experiencing is the expected behavior of
Python, albeit not what you want in this instance. Rather than re-doing
the long-standing infractucture of Python on the Mac, wouldn't it be
better to find the code that is causing the undesired "rocket launch"
and fix it, or at least wor
Nicholas Cole wrote:
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
I'm curious who maintains the Mac builds of Python these days. It's not hard
to build from source, of course, and that's what I do...but the binary
installer is convenient for many people.
I want to
ho maintains the Mac builds of Python these days. It's not
hard to build from source, of course, and that's what I do...but the
binary installer is convenient for many people.
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Did you try selecting the "font" tab in the preferences?
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provide with its system Python , i.e. Idle. You
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tosh python authenticate)...
- Benjamin
Take a look at Bob Ippolito's authorization package:
http://www.undefined.org/python/#Authorization
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Paul McNett wrote:
Kevin Walzer wrote:
Paul McNett wrote:
Hi,
I've successfully created my application bundle (a wxPython-based
application) using py2app and now I want to create an installer
inside a compressed dmg.
I'm having trouble finding examples of how to do this.
n't
worry about the installer.
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onventions).
I actually just use plain old IDLE. It's had some basic Mac UI
adaptations, and works nicely for me. But then, I use Tk/Tkinter as my
GUI toolkit, so I actually prefer to use a Tk-based app as a reference
point (for both good and bad aspects).
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Idan Gazit wrote:
On Oct 19, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
Not sure if 2.6 does the same, but I thought it did. It certainly
doesn't touch /etc/paths.d, nor should it. ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist
isn't affected either as far as I know.
A little bit of rooting around
Idan Gazit wrote:
On Oct 19, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
The installer will modify your path settings so that MacPython comes
up before the version shipped by Apple. However, the current Mac build
of Python 2.5 is broken if you need to run Tkinter apps such as IDLE:
Hm,
Dunno why
me instructions on how to work around the difficulties
the current build runs into.)
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ystem/Library/Frameworks for Tcl/Tk, it
won't run Tkinter applications. It makes the build pretty much useless
for anyone needing it to run Tkinter apps, including Idle. I'd say it's
a showstopper issue.
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make: *** [Objects/longobject.o] Error 1
Thanks,
Rajanikanth
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ActiveTcl (http://www.activestate.com). Both Leopard and Tiger come with
Tk 8.4 installed in /System/Library, but that version is now obsolete.
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documentation, test suites and examples, are still getting updated.
(Someone please correct me if I am wrong.)
You can always build your own version of Python as well. I do, because
my Tkinter Python apps need to link to Tk 8.5, and the official
Python.org build (and Apple's version) links to
think the flags are ./configure --enable-framework
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using it was effortless.
It isn't the same as Windows and other Unixes, so it's not surprising
that you're having some difficulty adjusting to the platform-specific
quirks.Once you work through them, things should be smooth.
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DavidW wrote:
Does anyone know whether there's any work being done on a python
interface to the OSX speech synthesiser?
You should be able to access through PyObjC--look up NSSpeechSynthesizer.
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Running a test build of my app with Tk 8.5.3, the issues seem resolved.
Not sure who fixed them or when, but I'm glad that the warnings don't
litter the console anymore.
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On 22/07/2008, at 19:24, Kevin Walzer wrote:
Tk 8.5 was released last December, and is a big improvement over Tk
8.4. However, Python's binary distributions (for Mac and Windows,
anyway) still link against Tk 8.4.x.
There's nothing to prevent you from
ac, perhaps Ronald can chime in here.
Ronald, what's your take on this? Any idea when the binary distro of
MacPython will look for Tk 8.5 by default?
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Michael Crawford wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What version of Tcl/Tk do you have installed?
Actually, I'm not real sure. I assumed that they were bundled with
the MacPython 2.5.2 download, but a long time ago I built Tcl and Tk
re Duo (not Core 2 Duo) MacBook Pro running Mac OS X
10.4.11.
Thanks for your advice.
What version of Tcl/Tk do you have installed?
Can you post some sample code for me to play with?
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ion (8.4.7) installed in /System/Library/Frameworks.
As I said, this version is very old (c. 2005?). 8.4.19 from the link I
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the script, or with the path to the script in another
directory in the same path hierarchy, i.e. "python foo/myscript.py," in
a subdirectory called foo).
All the variables you have set--$PATH, etc.-- help Terminal know where
Python is. They do not help Python know where your script
in Terminal to be the same as the
script.
Try this command:
cd /Users/pascal/Documents/Python/Dev/myapps
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Kevin Walzer wrote:
This application built without problem when I was using Tk 8.5.2; the
only change in my setup is the minor version update of Tk to 8.5.3.
I admit I'm not up-to-date on the whole "code-signing" thing--is this
something that needs to be taken into account wi
hen I was using Tk 8.5.2; the
only change in my setup is the minor version update of Tk to 8.5.3.
I admit I'm not up-to-date on the whole "code-signing" thing--is this
something that needs to be taken into account with py2app?
In any event, I'm stumped, and would be grate
Parser, see http://feedparser.org/). Growl has Python bindings, and
can also be called from the command-line via AppleScript.
Hope this helps,
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ftware and I
appreciated the help getting Tkinter working on 10.2. Unfortunately, other
tools that I was hoping to use on this project (such as Guib, the successor
to SpecTcl) are proving to be much more difficult to install on 10.2 than
Tkinter was.
Again, glad to help.
Best,
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the source code, follow the
instructions, and you should be fine. If the binary I've pointed you to
doesn't work, then building all of Python from source (including
Tkinter) is your only option.
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your system. I think 10.3.9 is the
absolute minimum that is supported by universal versions of Python.
You'd be in far better shape with 10.4, or 10.5.
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Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
El Wednesday, 14 de May de 2008 19:57:29 Kevin Walzer escribió:
Copying repsonse to the list so others can see the follow-up:
sorry...
Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
Wouldn't it be possible to just include a binary Mac Python and then copy
the script t
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El Tuesday, 13 de May de 2008 20:46:46 Kevin Walzer escribió:
If all you are distributing are Python scripts, you can already to this
with distutils or setuptools.
I'd do it, if most Mac Users
ls or setuptools.
If you want to distribute standalone apps with the Python interpreter
embedded, that can't be done in a cross-platform manner. A Python binary
built on Linux won't run on OS X.
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> py2app would have done that, though I'm still confused as to why
> pythonlauncher didn't work for you.
Pythonlauncher is broken on Leopard:
http://bugs.python.org/issue1905
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are using platform-neutral bits (i.e. it's pure Python), you should be
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Kevin Walzer wrote:
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> What does the "de-Macification" in Python 3.0 mean? Will the Carbon
> modules be removed?
>
I've found the answer to my own question:
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3108/
Yuk. Looks like I will have to remove the Carbon bits from my app
quot;de-Macification" in Python 3.0 mean? Will the Carbon
modules be removed?
I'm curious because the Python program I currently develop calls into
Carbon for a few things, and I'm mulling its future direction and design.
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ibute Apple bits.
Besides, there's no way that the Apple-installed Python on 10.5 will run
on an earlier version of the OS.
To get a truly standalone app bundle with py2app, you'll have to use a
separate build of Python, and wrap that. You can get this from
python.org. I think that bui
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib-
> 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 178, in load
> ValueError: Unknown load command: 30
> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib-
> 1.1-py2.4.egg
my own python and
> explicitly add use that flag?
I can't speak for every package, but I am using my own build of Python
that links to Tk 8.5. The stock MacPython links to 8.4 and won't work
with 8.5. I built Python and Tk to support 10.4 and they seem to work fine.
onsiderations?
>
That should do it.
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eed the correct solution--Python will
link to the native frameworks in /System/Library/Frameworks.
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