Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-24 Thread Matthias Baas
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal < chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Matthias Baas > wrote: > > > From a user's point of view, I find that Windows installers as generated > > by bdist_wininst still provide the nicest user experience with

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> I'm using the >> system zlib -- is that a bad idea? Should I build it too, to make sure >> it matches the rest of it? >> >> (I do want the binaries to run anywhere the binary Python I'm using runs) > > It depends on the library. OK -- it

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Matthias Baas wrote: > From a user's point of view, I find that Windows installers as generated > by bdist_wininst still provide the nicest user experience with OSX > packages being a close second. second? Aren't they essentially the same experience? But anyway..

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-23 Thread Matthias Baas
On 22.05.13 18:30, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote: > Users also fall into two categories: > > 1) Folks that do Python development on OS-X much like Linux, etc -- > these folks are likely to use macports or homebrew, or are used to the > .configure, make, make install dance. We don't need to do

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Samuel John wrote: > I am from the homebrew team and passionate python lover. I can almost feel > your pain :-) Thanks for joining the discussion -- really great to have a homebrew-familiar person to discuss with. However, and please to correct me if I'm wrong,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-23 Thread Samuel John
Hi, I am from the homebrew team and passionate python lover. I can almost feel your pain :-) Some things install nice with pip, but others don't. That is why I started to maintain a separate "tap" for additional homebrew python formulae like pillow, numpy, scipy, matplotlib, pygame ... (one can

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 23 May, 2013, at 0:46, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote: > Thanks Ronald, > > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Ronald Oussoren > wrote: > >> To move back onto topic, not relying on unix-level libraries in OSX is in a >> good thing as it makes it easier to support multiple OSX versions

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 23 May, 2013, at 7:38, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote: > I just poked a bit into the Anaconda Python distribution. their > packages are simple tarballs, but I think they have a dependency > management system of some sort. > > They deliver the dependencies as separate packages (tarballs),

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-22 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
I just poked a bit into the Anaconda Python distribution. their packages are simple tarballs, but I think they have a dependency management system of some sort. They deliver the dependencies as separate packages (tarballs), one for each lib. It looksl ike it all gets unpacked inot a sinlgle dir (i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-22 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
Thanks Ronald, On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > To move back onto topic, not relying on unix-level libraries in OSX is in a > good thing as it makes it easier to support multiple OSX versions with a > single set of binaries. hmm -- I figured if it was a system lib, it

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 22 May, 2013, at 19:30, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote: > Hey folks, > > I'm looking for advice, and maybe even some consensus among the > MacPython community, on how to build and distribute packages with > non-python dependencies. > > As we all know, a number of Python packages require

[Pythonmac-SIG] Advice wanted on dependency building...

2013-05-22 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
Hey folks, I'm looking for advice, and maybe even some consensus among the MacPython community, on how to build and distribute packages with non-python dependencies. As we all know, a number of Python packages require libs that are used outside of python itself. These libs fall into (sort of) wha