Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-21 Thread David Signer
Hi there I like the idea of having an environmental policy which state that we are considering environmental issues as well. Likewise I support Andreas' original input, that QGIS.ORG should only fund train tickets for short distance travels to QGIS contributor meetings. I think it's

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-20 Thread Falk Huettmann
Dear Colleagues, thanks; three things, if I may add them here. I think they do matter: -train-location events sound great, but have no good global meaning. Most continents cannot be reached by or from trains (think planes, ships or others). One way or another, you need to think global, and wher

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-20 Thread Denis Rouzaud
Hi all, I would just like to say I am totally in favor of having an environmental policy which would just state that we are acting and considering environmental issues in our work. I am totally supporting the idea of promoting the train for reachable places and try to avoid too disconnected place

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, this is turning out a very interesting discussion, that shows the variety and richness of the approaches within our community. Please keep on voicing your opinions, so we can have a broader perspective before reaching a decision, hopefully shared by everyone. I'm sure many others have inter

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Jorge Gustavo Rocha
Hi, 1) I don't think QGIS.ORG was created to educate people. QGIS.ORG is doing the job quite well and doesn't have to follow the latest fashion trends. 2) If QGIS.ORG starts to educate people about environmental issues, the next step will be about ethical, moral, gender, religion, etc, as we saw

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Bo Victor Thomsen
2 cents and 2 minor points: * One country's freedom fighters is another country's terrorists. * The EPSG in the CRS code is an acronym for "European *Petroleum* Survey Group" Don't mix personal moral/ethics with licensing -- Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards Bo Victor Thomsen Den 16-01-20

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, Yes, I'd also like to focus on the original issue: QGIS.ORG should only fund train tickets for short distance travels to QGIS contributor meetings (and come up with a definition what "short distance" means). The other discussions about restricting usage of QGIS is a "can of worms". The

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 16/01/20 19:27, Even Rouault ha scritto: > The world is complex. thanks Even -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu QGIS.ORG Chair: http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/ ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.or

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Even Rouault
Regarding > prohibit the use of QGIS to the fossil-fuels industry. and > ...may I suggest to add GLOBAL PEACE & WAR issues to this QGIS > discussion on environmental questions ? That's not a good idea IHMO. Don't mix licensing & ethics. Free software licenses explicitly don't discriminate agai

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Falk Huettmann
Dear Kind Colleagues, ...may I suggest to add GLOBAL PEACE & WAR issues to this QGIS discussion on environmental questions ? Arguably, ArcGIS was part-created and promoted by the U.S. military, industry etc. and recent drone applications all rely on GIS work either way. Any public development on '

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all. Il 16/01/20 14:39, Andreas Neumann ha scritto: >>    * do we want a cap on cost and time difference between transportation >> method? e.g. train is to be used when cost or duration are no more than >> x times flight cost or duration > We don't want a lot of bureaucracy or a "travel police

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, I am also adding my personal preferences down here, but I fear this whole discussion will be a bit difficult to summarize. Am 16.01.20 um 12:21 schrieb Paolo Cavallini: Hi all, following the interesting proposal by Andreas, I'm here starting a discussion about QGIS.ORG environmental polic

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Werner Macho
Hi all, >From a unfortunately long time not attending to hackfests participant I am also in favour to reduce to once a year - and the idea of combining it with user meetings is nice as well. The Licence "issue" - to be honest they would use it anyway .. but as a message it would be ok (but that wo

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi > On 16 Jan 2020, at 11:52, Alessandro Pasotti wrote: > > > Hi Paolo, > > thank you for bringing this on. > > Here is my very personal opinion: > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:20 PM Paolo Cavallini > wrote: > Hi all, > following the interesting proposal by An

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Alessandro Pasotti
Hi Paolo, thank you for bringing this on. Here is my very personal opinion: On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:20 PM Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Hi all, > following the interesting proposal by Andreas, I'm here starting a > discussion about QGIS.ORG environmental policy: > > * do we need an explicit envi

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi I am glad we have so many bunny huggers in our community. The weird thing about in-person meetings is how it dedicates and focusses people’s time and attention which I could never replicate as a remote participant in these kind of event. Maybe my donkey needs feeding or my wife wants me to s

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Raymond Nijssen
Hi Paolo, Good point! Or many good points actually. For both the environment and inclusiveness we could think about having a more decentralized approach for the contributor meetings. Since most developers are living in Europe, meetings are in Europe, which attracts more European developers et

[QGIS-Developer] Environmental policy

2020-01-16 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, following the interesting proposal by Andreas, I'm here starting a discussion about QGIS.ORG environmental policy: * do we need an explicit environmental policy? * probably our greatest impact is travel for Developers Meetings * do we need in person general meetings, or we can promote mo