Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Anita, Thanks for pointing out QEP#4, I wasn't aware of it. Tim has done an impressive work there. The above-mentioned QEP is a long term thing, what I was suggesting is a very short term (i.e. 2 cycles) proposal to try and satisfy the current needs for stability and devlopment momentum. I also

Re: [Qgis-developer] Python tests and C++ tests for the same functionality

2014-11-10 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Thank you for your comments I did not mean to exclude all C++ tests. If somebody wants or needs to write tests in C++ please continue to do so. I am referring only the ones that duplicate python tests. I don't think they have additional value and make maintainability harder. In general I think

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Luca Manganelli
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Geo DrinX geodr...@gmail.com wrote: Yes yes yes. +1 but also +999 :) And why not + ? ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Martin Dobias
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Luca Manganelli luc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Geo DrinX geodr...@gmail.com wrote: Yes yes yes. +1 but also +999 :) And why not + ? Seeing this I can't resist to quote a bit of PEP-10 [1] +1 I like it +0 I don't care,

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 10/11/2014 09:31, Martin Dobias ha scritto: really valued much beyond the above scores, but it's nice to see people get excited about such geeky stuff. Hi all, I hate cooling down the enthusiasm, but I really see LTS as an empty word. To me,

Re: [Qgis-developer] qgis2threejs issue

2014-11-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 10/11/2014 04:56, Minoru Akagi ha scritto: Please open a ticket if you like. done, thanks. all the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu QGIS PostGIS courses: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

[Qgis-developer] Behaviour when create new features

2014-11-10 Thread CABO
I have an inexperienced QGIS user who needed to draw some simple line strings. She created a new shapefile layer (line type), enabled editing and used the Add Feature button to draw a line string. - She didn't right click to finished the feature when she was done! She saved the

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Luca Manganelli
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: To me, the whole issue boils down to having resources to do serious backporting of fixes. Without that, LTS will have no practical effect, as users will use the latest, more bugfixed version. more bugfixed is not

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:42:42AM +0100, Luca Manganelli wrote: So, I believe that in production environment the most stable (!= latest) version is used. For almost 2 years we used 1.7.4, for me the most stable QGIS version in earth (more than 2.4 and 2.6!). Yep, that little third number in

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Nathan Woodrow
So, I believe that in production environment the most stable (!= latest) version is used. For almost 2 years we used 1.7.4, for me the most stable QGIS version in earth (more than 2.4 and 2.6!). Oh man. I couldn't even use 1.7.4 anymore it's so old ;) Anyway the point is a valid one. Running

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 10/11/2014 10:42, Luca Manganelli ha scritto: So, I believe that in production environment the most stable (!= latest) version is used. For almost 2 years we used 1.7.4, for me the most stable QGIS version in earth (more than 2.4 and 2.6!).

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 10/11/2014 10:56, Nathan Woodrow ha scritto: IMO we don't need resources to do bug fixing. The dev that does the bug fix in master can do it in the 2.x branch for that stable release if Sorry I do not agree here: we had many cases of fixes

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Roy
Hi Paolo and all developers, Il 10/11/2014 09.42, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 10/11/2014 09:31, Martin Dobias ha scritto: really valued much beyond the above scores, but it's nice to see people get excited about such geeky stuff. Hi all, I

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:56:22AM +, Nathan Woodrow wrote: relevant.. This obviously has to be done smart but using the recent crash and project corruption as an example that Martin fixed right away, to me this warrants a new release off that branch, LTS or not, as project corruption is

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi all, QEP #4 allows to do backports for every release. Not only LTR. 2.6.1 will be very welcome. LTR releases will be available for 1 year and will receive bugfixes during that time. That's not going to happen magically. That requires power users and organizations to help the development.

[Qgis-developer] import gdalconst

2014-11-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. I noticed that import gdalconst fails on current win version (2.6, gdal 1.11), whereas it is ok on Debian (2.6, gdal 1.10.1): has something changed, or is this a (packaging?) issue? All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu QGIS

[Qgis-developer] QGIS-Server Coredump printing with lizmap webclient

2014-11-10 Thread Roy
Dear all, i'm testing qgis-server 2.6.0 with lizmap web client on ubuntu 12.04 server and qgis server crashes trying to print a vector layer with advanced symbols ( line pattern fill and marker line); apache log following: # apache2 error.log #mod_fcgid: error reading data, FastCGI

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS-Server Coredump printing with lizmap webclient

2014-11-10 Thread Alessandro Pasotti
2014-11-10 11:40 GMT+01:00 Roy royr...@outlook.com: Dear all, i'm testing qgis-server 2.6.0 with lizmap web client on ubuntu 12.04 server and qgis server crashes trying to print a vector layer with advanced symbols ( line pattern fill and marker line); apache log following: # apache2

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS-Server Coredump printing with lizmap webclient

2014-11-10 Thread Roy
Il 10/11/2014 11.44, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto: 2014-11-10 11:40 GMT+01:00 Roy royr...@outlook.com: Dear all, i'm testing qgis-server 2.6.0 with lizmap web client on ubuntu 12.04 server and qgis server crashes trying to print a vector layer with advanced symbols ( line pattern fill and

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Jonathan Moules
A couple of thoughts from a non-dev looking inwards: Sorry I do not agree here: we had many cases of fixes breaking other stuff Would not something like Unit Tests help ameliorate that? That's what they're designed for isn't it? I realise the state of QGIS' unit test infrastructure isn't

Re: [Qgis-developer] Behaviour when create new features

2014-11-10 Thread Jonathan Moules
Personally I’d think there are two bugs here, at least from a user-interface perspective, even if they’re not from a technical one: a) Edits showing when editing was disabled (I’ve seen this one myself). b)No warning that the edited features hadn’t been “finished” when saving and/or

Re: [Qgis-developer] Behaviour when create new features

2014-11-10 Thread Nathan Woodrow
b)No warning that the edited features hadn’t been “finished” when saving and/or when disabling editing. (2.6 Testing indicates that disabling and then re-enabling editing while editing but not “finishing” a feature shows that you continue editing the same feature; I’m not sure that’s very

Re: [Qgis-developer] Stability (2.8 LTS) vs development (3.0), a proposed way forward

2014-11-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. Il 10/11/2014 13:13, Jonathan Moules ha scritto: Then why not fix the bugs and require them to be backported? I know that seems flippant, but is there a reason that backporting by the submitter/committer can't be required for any bugfix

Re: [Qgis-developer] Behaviour when create new features

2014-11-10 Thread CABO
b)No warning that the edited features hadn’t been “finished” when saving and/or when disabling editing. I have created a ticket for this: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/11607 (2.6 Testing indicates that disabling and then re-enabling editing while editing but not “finishing” a feature

Re: [Qgis-developer] Save selection as

2014-11-10 Thread Jonathan Moules
Hi, Irrespective of which is the way to do it (I lean toward checking it when there's a selection), I'd suggest that the behaviour should be consistent. So either this default be changed, or the field calculator one be, otherwise you end up with confused users. Cheers, Jonathan -Original

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-10 Thread Jonathan Moules
Hi, Is there an ETA on this? We're thinking of moving up to 2.6, but I can see this hitting us if we do. Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini Sent: Saturday, November

Re: [Qgis-developer] Save selection as

2014-11-10 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, I think that functionality that works on selections and not on the whole layer should always be optional, and not the default. And yes - consistency would be nice ;-) Thanks, Andreas On 10.11.2014 15:48, Jonathan Moules wrote: Hi, Irrespective of which is the way to do it (I lean

Re: [Qgis-developer] Field Calculator permanence

2014-11-10 Thread Zoltan Szecsei
Hi Andreas On 2014/11/08 18:34, Andreas Neumann wrote: Hi Zoltan, There are many other file formats besides shapes, including many databases. So people should stop thinking that the universe only circles around shapefiles. Yes. I know. That's exactly what I am banging my head about. Do you

Re: [Qgis-developer] Changes in API documentation?

2014-11-10 Thread Luigi Pirelli
thank you Martin regards, Luigi Pirelli On 7 November 2014 18:55, Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Luigi Pirelli lui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi martin I almost agree, but qgis is not only a lib but kind of framework. It's use is different tespect the use