[Qgis-developer] Extending timeline for 3.0?

[Nyall Dawson]

Hi all,

I'd like to start the discussion around this early so that we can plan
ahead and not have to make a last-minute decision.

What are everyone's thoughts on extending the timeline for 3.0? In my
opinion things are currently going really well, we have Qt5/python3
builds which are stable enough for daily use and there's been a ton of
cleanups to the code.

There's a lot of changes still coming in, and I think there's SO much
room for making things better that I don't like the idea of the early
2017 deadline for the final release. I'd much rather extend this out
by another cycle and really getting the platform ready for the next
series of QGIS releases.

We could always put out a "preview" release in March, without frozen
API, if desired.

So, what's everyone's thoughts? Good idea? Bad idea?

Nyall
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[Qgis-developer] Using Eclipse for QGIS Python development Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit - how ?

[gordon]

Setting up PyQGIS Python interpreter.  Eclipse - Oxygen, how do you add 
hidden folders, when you cannot see them, using the Libraries tab - new 
folder button?


If you understand great - I am on page 94 of Python Programming Cookbook 
(2015) for those that don't follow.


From the QGIS Python Console for QGIS 2.16:
import sys
sys.path
['/usr/share/qgis/python/plugins/processing', 
'/home/gordon/.qgis2/python/plugins/GeoCoding/libs', 
'/usr/share/qgis/python', u'/home/gordon/.qgis2/python', 
u'/home/gordon/.qgis2/python/plugins', '/usr/share/qgis/python/plugins', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7', '/usr/lib/python2.7/plat-x86_64-linux-gnu', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-old', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload', 
'/home/gordon/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages', 
'/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/PILcompat', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gtk-2.0', 
u'/home/gordon/.qgis2//python', 
'/home/gordon/.qgis2/python/plugins/gearthview/ext-libs', 
'/home/gordon/.qgis2/python/plugins/lifemapperTools/LmShared', 
'/home/gordon/.qgis2/python/plugins', '.']

qgis
'/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/qgis/__init__.pyc'>


I was planning to Library - add New Folder  
/home/gordon/.qgis/python/plugins but the tool does not allow selection 
of .qgis


If this isn't the best way, how should it be done?

Thanks for any tips.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] About project.qgs file versions

[Nathan Woodrow]

Are you sure you can't open it in older versions? I mix project versions a
far bit and never seem to have any issues.  Some styling options etc might
not load right but it should still open at least.

On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 11:10 pm Paulo van Breugel 
wrote:

> On 25-10-16 13:56, Matthias Kuhn wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> >> Oh yes, it's true !You are right.   I tested. :(
> >>
> >> So I am asking: what is the reason why we did this  ?
> >>
> >> What you call "feature" is a problem for all those who need to share
> >> data with users who have an older version of QGIS, for one reason or
> >> another.
> >>
> >> I am wrong ?   What do you think ?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Geo
> >>
> > Nothing has been explicitly done to prevent it.
> >
> > The "feature" is a warning which you can interpret as "It might or might
> > not work in your scenario. Before you rely on backporting projects in
> > production scenarios, test it carefully.".
> > Or test one version and stick to that within a project which is the
> > safest choice.
> >
> > Changing this behavior would be a considerable additional amount of work
> > and slow down development of new features (and there would still be no
> > guarantee).
> To state it perhaps more explicitly, this is not a 'feature'. It is a
> 'consequence' of the development or improvements of features in QGIS.
> This is basically a choice that has between made to avoid spending too
> much time on making project (.qgs) files back-ward compatible, as
> explained by Matthias. This may indeed be a problem for users (it has
> been for me in the past). But QGIS does provide a clear warning that
> your project files may not be backward compatible, to help users to run
> into problems later. It would have been nice to have some form of
> backward compatibility, but I understand why this may not be feasible,
> and I am happy I am being warned in advance.
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Matthias
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[Qgis-developer] A bug in Bug Tracker?

[Luca Mandolesi]

Hi,
is there a bug in bugtracker?
I think probably is my mistake.

This is my profile with 3 tickets

https://hub.qgis.org/users/1604

But I don't appear in authors list:

https://hub.qgis.org/projects/quantum-gis/issues/report

Why? I wrong some procedure?

I know others users has the same problem.

Best regards.
Luca
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Visual Changelogs for QGIS v2.18?

[Elstermann, Mike]

THX!
At german side, the link at the banner fails.
In english, it’s OK :-)

BR, mikeE.

> Am 25.10.2016 um 15:00 schrieb DelazJ :
> 
> Hi,
> Note that the link in the banner leads to a valid page only if you are 
> reading the english version of qgis.org. Otherwise it fails.
> 
> Harrissou
> 
> 2016-10-25 14:40 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. Fischer :
> Hi Mike,
> 
> On Tue, 25. Oct 2016 at 12:03:59 +, Elstermann, Mike wrote:
> > where can I find the Visual Changelogs for v2.18?
> > See: http://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/visualchangelogs.html
> 
> When it's ready there will be a link on that page.  In the meantime you can
> click on the link in the 2.18 banner.
> 
> 
> Jürgen
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Re: [Qgis-developer] About project.qgs file versions

[Paulo van Breugel]

On 25-10-16 13:56, Matthias Kuhn wrote:

Hi


Oh yes, it's true !You are right.   I tested. :(

So I am asking: what is the reason why we did this  ?

What you call "feature" is a problem for all those who need to share
data with users who have an older version of QGIS, for one reason or
another.

I am wrong ?   What do you think ?

Regards
Geo


Nothing has been explicitly done to prevent it.

The "feature" is a warning which you can interpret as "It might or might
not work in your scenario. Before you rely on backporting projects in
production scenarios, test it carefully.".
Or test one version and stick to that within a project which is the
safest choice.

Changing this behavior would be a considerable additional amount of work
and slow down development of new features (and there would still be no
guarantee).
To state it perhaps more explicitly, this is not a 'feature'. It is a 
'consequence' of the development or improvements of features in QGIS. 
This is basically a choice that has between made to avoid spending too 
much time on making project (.qgs) files back-ward compatible, as 
explained by Matthias. This may indeed be a problem for users (it has 
been for me in the past). But QGIS does provide a clear warning that 
your project files may not be backward compatible, to help users to run 
into problems later. It would have been nice to have some form of 
backward compatibility, but I understand why this may not be feasible, 
and I am happy I am being warned in advance.




Regards
Matthias
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Visual Changelogs for QGIS v2.18?

[DelazJ]

Hi,
Note that the link in the banner leads to a valid page only if you are
reading the english version of qgis.org. Otherwise it fails.

Harrissou

2016-10-25 14:40 GMT+02:00 Jürgen E. Fischer :

> Hi Mike,
>
> On Tue, 25. Oct 2016 at 12:03:59 +, Elstermann, Mike wrote:
> > where can I find the Visual Changelogs for v2.18?
> > See: http://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/visualchangelogs.html
>
> When it's ready there will be a link on that page.  In the meantime you can
> click on the link in the 2.18 banner.
>
>
> Jürgen
>
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> +49-4931-918175-50
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Visual Changelogs for QGIS v2.18?

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Mike,

On Tue, 25. Oct 2016 at 12:03:59 +, Elstermann, Mike wrote:
> where can I find the Visual Changelogs for v2.18?
> See: http://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/visualchangelogs.html

When it's ready there will be a link on that page.  In the meantime you can
click on the link in the 2.18 banner.


Jürgen

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[Qgis-developer] Visual Changelogs for QGIS v2.18?

[Elstermann, Mike]

Hi all, 

where can I find the Visual Changelogs for v2.18?
See: http://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/visualchangelogs.html

THX, mikeE.



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Re: [Qgis-developer] About project.qgs file versions

[Matthias Kuhn]

Hi

> Oh yes, it's true !You are right.   I tested. :(
> 
> So I am asking: what is the reason why we did this  ?
> 
> What you call "feature" is a problem for all those who need to share
> data with users who have an older version of QGIS, for one reason or
> another.
> 
> I am wrong ?   What do you think ?
> 
> Regards
> Geo
> 

Nothing has been explicitly done to prevent it.

The "feature" is a warning which you can interpret as "It might or might
not work in your scenario. Before you rely on backporting projects in
production scenarios, test it carefully.".
Or test one version and stick to that within a project which is the
safest choice.

Changing this behavior would be a considerable additional amount of work
and slow down development of new features (and there would still be no
guarantee).

Regards
Matthias
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Re: [Qgis-developer] About project.qgs file versions

[Geo DrinX]

2016-10-25 11:49 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :

> Hi,
>
>
> 2016-10-25 11:41 GMT+02:00 Nyall Dawson :
>
>> On 25 Oct 2016 7:37 PM, "Geo DrinX"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Good morning,
>> >
>> >
>> > we have seen that the new QGIS 2.18  reports a warning when opens a
>> .qgs  project file,
>> > reporting that it is an old version, and saving again, it could be
>> incompatible with old versions of QGIS.
>> >
>> > We  are asking what is the reason for this.  Could you explain us ?
>>
>> There's no backward compatibility in qgs files. If you upgrade them then
>> they won't necessarily be the same in earlier versions. Sometimes they
>> won't be openable at all in earlier versions. Hence the warning.
>>
>> This is not a new feature. It has always been the case when you open a
> project with a newer qgis version.
>


Oh yes, it's true !You are right.   I tested. :(

So I am asking: what is the reason why we did this  ?

What you call "feature" is a problem for all those who need to share data
with users who have an older version of QGIS, for one reason or another.

I am wrong ?   What do you think ?

Regards
Geo




> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
>> >
>> > BTW, there is a function for saving the .qgs  file  in a previous
>> version ?
>>
>> No, nothing like that exists.
>>
>> Nyall
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you
>> >
>> > Geo
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Re: [Qgis-developer] About project.qgs file versions

[DelazJ]

Hi,


2016-10-25 11:41 GMT+02:00 Nyall Dawson :

> On 25 Oct 2016 7:37 PM, "Geo DrinX"  wrote:
> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> >
> > we have seen that the new QGIS 2.18  reports a warning when opens a
> .qgs  project file,
> > reporting that it is an old version, and saving again, it could be
> incompatible with old versions of QGIS.
> >
> > We  are asking what is the reason for this.  Could you explain us ?
>
> There's no backward compatibility in qgs files. If you upgrade them then
> they won't necessarily be the same in earlier versions. Sometimes they
> won't be openable at all in earlier versions. Hence the warning.
>
> This is not a new feature. It has always been the case when you open a
project with a newer qgis version.

Regards,
Harrissou

> >
> > BTW, there is a function for saving the .qgs  file  in a previous
> version ?
>
> No, nothing like that exists.
>
> Nyall
>
> >
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Geo
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Re: [Qgis-developer] About project.qgs file versions

[Nyall Dawson]

On 25 Oct 2016 7:37 PM, "Geo DrinX"  wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
>
> we have seen that the new QGIS 2.18  reports a warning when opens a
.qgs  project file,
> reporting that it is an old version, and saving again, it could be
incompatible with old versions of QGIS.
>
> We  are asking what is the reason for this.  Could you explain us ?

There's no backward compatibility in qgs files. If you upgrade them then
they won't necessarily be the same in earlier versions. Sometimes they
won't be openable at all in earlier versions. Hence the warning.

>
> BTW, there is a function for saving the .qgs  file  in a previous version
?

No, nothing like that exists.

Nyall

>
>
> Thank you
>
> Geo
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[Qgis-developer] About project.qgs file versions

[Geo DrinX]

Good morning,


we have seen that the new QGIS 2.18  reports a warning when opens a  .qgs
project file,
reporting that it is an old version, and saving again, it could be
incompatible with old versions of QGIS.

We  are asking what is the reason for this.  Could you explain us ?

BTW, there is a function for saving the .qgs  file  in a previous version ?


Thank you

Geo
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Re: [Qgis-developer] QgsRasterChecker: symbol already defined

[René-Luc Dhont]

Thanks Nyall!


Le 25/10/2016 à 01:22, Nyall Dawson a écrit :

On 25 October 2016 at 02:07, René-Luc Dhont  wrote:

Hi devs,

Here is the error when I build QGIS master:

/tmp/cc5lvdMz.s:985: Error: symbol «
_ZZZN16QgsRasterChecker10compareRowERK7QStringS2_S2_RS0_bS2_S2_Ed_NKUlvE_clEvE15qstring_literal
» is already defined
/tmp/cc5lvdMz.s:1001: Error: symbol «
_ZZN16QgsRasterChecker10compareRowERK7QStringS2_S2_RS0_bS2_S2_Ed_NKUlvE_clEv
» is already defined

I don't know why!

Should be fixed on master now

Nyall


Regards,
René-Luc

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Re: [Qgis-developer] gdal merge (in processing) extent

[Paolo Cavallini]

Il 22/10/2016 13:01, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> currently, gdal merge, as it is used in Processing, converts no data in
> 0. This did not happen before. Has a param changed in GDAL or in Processing?

Ticket opened:
https://hub.qgis.org/issues/15749
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Is there a QGIS 2.99.0 plugin repositoryr for Qt5.7 and Python3 Ubuntu 16.04 xenial 64-bit?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde 
wrote:

> On 25-10-16 08:03, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On the official repository the default version for all plugins is x.99
> > where x is the major version of the qgisMinimumVersion metadata tag.
> >
> > I guess this needs to be changed.
>
> Or we let master request
>
> https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/plugins.xml?qgis=3.0
>
> which gives me currently just two plugins, on of them with wrong
> metadata :-) ?
>


I can only speak for IPyconsole and 3.0 it's on purpose since I've tested
it on master.


>
> so only plugins devs which actually update there plugin to raise there
> maximum version or set the minimum version >=3 will be shown?
>
> is that enough to work for now?
>
>
I fully agree with master requesting 3.0, this is the new API.



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Re: [Qgis-developer] Is there a QGIS 2.99.0 plugin repositoryr for Qt5.7 and Python3 Ubuntu 16.04 xenial 64-bit?

[Denis Rouzaud]

On 10/25/2016 08:31 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
> On 25-10-16 08:03, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On the official repository the default version for all plugins is x.99
>> where x is the major version of the qgisMinimumVersion metadata tag.
>>
>> I guess this needs to be changed.
> Or we let master request
>
> https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/plugins.xml?qgis=3.0
>
> which gives me currently just two plugins, on of them with wrong
> metadata :-) ?
>
> so only plugins devs which actually update there plugin to raise there
> maximum version or set the minimum version >=3 will be shown?
>
> is that enough to work for now?

sounds perfect to me!


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Is there a QGIS 2.99.0 plugin repositoryr for Qt5.7 and Python3 Ubuntu 16.04 xenial 64-bit?

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 25-10-16 08:03, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On the official repository the default version for all plugins is x.99
> where x is the major version of the qgisMinimumVersion metadata tag.
> 
> I guess this needs to be changed.

Or we let master request

https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/plugins.xml?qgis=3.0

which gives me currently just two plugins, on of them with wrong
metadata :-) ?

so only plugins devs which actually update there plugin to raise there
maximum version or set the minimum version >=3 will be shown?

is that enough to work for now?

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Is there a QGIS 2.99.0 plugin repositoryr for Qt5.7 and Python3 Ubuntu 16.04 xenial 64-bit?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

Hi,

On the official repository the default version for all plugins is x.99
where x is the major version of the qgisMinimumVersion metadata tag.

I guess this needs to be changed.



On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Denis Rouzaud 
wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks for raising this. I don't think we need a special URL.
>
>
> 1. First all plugins should have maxVersion set to 2.98 by default.
> 2. Then plugins with metedata having maxVersion >= 3.0 or minVersion >=
> 3.0 would be listed.
>
> Can someone take care of point 1?
>
> Denis
>
>
> On 10/25/2016 03:02 AM, gor...@shieldaig.com wrote:
>
> What is the URL?
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