Re: [Qgis-developer] INSTALL.txt
Hi Bernd, On Sun, 23. Feb 2014 at 03:32:40 +0100, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: In my struggle to manage to build QGIS from source, I finally found the INSTALL-file on github. (No link to this from the website! At least I couldn't find anything) I also have the impression that the new website is harder to navigate. And the sphinx stuff makes little updates time consuming. There should be a link to http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.github.com/qgis/QGIS/master/doc/INSTALL.html on the documentation page (which reminds me that I still have to add the 2.2 API docs). I just want to remark, that under Optional dependencies: ... - for georeferencer - GSL = 1.8 the version number can't be correct, cause there is no such high version available. But it is. 1.8 is from 2006. Current is 1.16. In general, I would also like to remark, that it would be very nice to have kind of a wiki for build instructions for the different platforms and versions and the different related resources like GDAL, spatialite etc. as well, cause I have to build GDAL myself for MrSID and FGDB-support (and without that, QGIS on Linux is quite useless for me, at least not for productive work). Hm, I'd say building GDAL extensions is out of scope for our build instructions. But you can as a wiki page to hub.qgis.org, if you like. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS PSC member (RM) Germany IRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] INSTALL.txt
Am 23.02.2014, 10:03 Uhr, schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer j...@norbit.de: Hi Bernd, On Sun, 23. Feb 2014 at 03:32:40 +0100, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: In my struggle to manage to build QGIS from source, I finally found the INSTALL-file on github. (No link to this from the website! At least I couldn't find anything) I also have the impression that the new website is harder to navigate. And the sphinx stuff makes little updates time consuming. There should be a link to http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.github.com/qgis/QGIS/master/doc/INSTALL.html on the documentation page The link to the INSTALL build instructions is hidden under Developement headers http://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/development/index.html#development I think almost everything is on the website already but sometimes the structure is not as intuitive as it could be. Best wishes, Anita -- anitagraser.com ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] INSTALL.txt
Am 23.02.2014, 04:12 Uhr, schrieb Robert Szczepanek rob...@szczepanek.pl: Hi Bernd, (...) Finding all these infos (and sometimes not very congruentt ones) in different blogs and forums is ridiculously time-consuming. (...) Several people invested time [1] to create QGIS. You are welcome to be part of the project and improve build description. After that read your e-mail once again... Robert Szczepanek [1] http://www.ohloh.net/p/3663/estimated_cost Hi Robert, sorry for the wrong wording again. Of course I appreciate all your efforts in developing QGIS and I'm a QGIS-evangelist. I donate as often as I can, and that's all i can contribute, cause I am even not able (yet) to build that stuff myself. This message was written to show a really minor mistake in the install text on github, and further on I (humbly) remarked that it would be nice to have a central place for the install instruction for the other parts needed as well. And contributing to that would of course not be the developers job, but maybe thinking about the possibility to offer a wiki for that. QPA-Platforms like stackexchange are not really suitable for that, and searching the mailing lists will not lead anywhere in a lot of cases as well. And it is really time consuming to gather all the tips and tricks from those different resources, and I'm always a friend of streamlining processes, not only for me but also for lots of others who fail in building that stuff, or even finding proper instructions. If I were able to build QGIS and related stuff myself, I would be able to run the stable and the master versions alongside and could work and test. And when I finally successfully built everything, I would be happy to publish my findings .. but where? Just on an other blog or in another blogs comments, which will be outdated soon? But I do not intend to lead a discussion here. Just my 2 cents Bernd W dniu 22.02.2014 21:32, Bernd Vogelgesang napisał(a): HI, In my struggle to manage to build QGIS from source, I finally found the INSTALL-file on github. (No link to this from the website! At least I couldn't find anything) I just want to remark, that under Optional dependencies: ... - for georeferencer - GSL = 1.8 the version number can't be correct, cause there is no such high version available. This might be no big problem for most people, but for a noob like me, this is causing hysteria and increasing blood pressure. I think it came into existence from an old version i found here http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Minimal-requirements-td4157264.html where it sais: - for georeferencer - GSL = ? (works with 1.8) In general, I would also like to remark, that it would be very nice to have kind of a wiki for build instructions for the different platforms and versions and the different related resources like GDAL, spatialite etc. as well, cause I have to build GDAL myself for MrSID and FGDB-support (and without that, QGIS on Linux is quite useless for me, at least not for productive work). Finding all these infos (and sometimes not very congruentt ones) in different blogs and forums is ridiculously time-consuming. And when I already invest so much time in fiddling out this, I would like to have the other parts state of the art as well, but there is unfortunately no common place for instructions on the related items. Cheers Bernd ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Bernd Vogelgesang Siedlerstraße 2 91083 Baiersdorf/Igelsdorf Tel: 09133-825374 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] INSTALL.txt
Hi, On Sun, 23. Feb 2014 at 13:20:15 +0100, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: This message was written to show a really minor mistake in the install text on github, Oh, sorry, I missed that. I was probably too concentrated on trying to explain that version 1.16 is higher than 1.8. ;) And when I finally successfully built everything, I would be happy to publish my findings .. but where? Just on an other blog or in another blogs comments, which will be outdated soon? Here, if it's something that should be integrated in INSTALL and you don't want to jump to the hoops on github to issue a pull request to doc/INSTALL.t2t co. You could also file a ticket on hub.qgis.org. There's although a wiki there - but chances are that blogs and that wiki page share the same fate. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS PSC member (RM) Germany IRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] INSTALL.txt
Hi On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Bernd Vogelgesang bernd.vogelges...@gmx.de wrote: HI, In my struggle to manage to build QGIS from source, I finally found the INSTALL-file on github. (No link to this from the website! At least I couldn't find anything) I just want to remark, that under Optional dependencies: ... - for georeferencer - GSL = 1.8 the version number can't be correct, cause there is no such high version available. This might be no big problem for most people, but for a noob like me, this is causing hysteria and increasing blood pressure. I think it came into existence from an old version i found here http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Minimal-requirements-td4157264.html where it sais: - for georeferencer - GSL = ? (works with 1.8) In general, I would also like to remark, that it would be very nice to have kind of a wiki for build instructions for the different platforms and versions and the different related resources like GDAL, spatialite etc. as well, cause I have to build GDAL myself for MrSID and FGDB-support (and without that, QGIS on Linux is quite useless for me, at least not for productive work). Finding all these infos (and sometimes not very congruentt ones) in different blogs and forums is ridiculously time-consuming. And when I already invest so much time in fiddling out this, I would like to have the other parts state of the art as well, but there is unfortunately no common place for instructions on the related items. Personally I am not a fan of wikis for this kind of info. They tend to be a dumping ground for 'stuff' that gets left unmaintained and takes users down blind alleys. Having the INSTALL file is a 'single point of truth' that we can maintain and that should always relate to the particular version of the code base it ships with. Of course if you find issues with it or can improve it, by all means send us a patch and we will fix and improve it. Regards Tim Cheers Bernd -- Bernd Vogelgesang Siedlerstraße 2 91083 Baiersdorf/Igelsdorf Tel: 09133-825374 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member == Please do not email me off-list with technical support questions. Using the lists will gain more exposure for your issues and the knowledge surrounding your issue will be shared with all. Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] INSTALL.txt
HI, In my struggle to manage to build QGIS from source, I finally found the INSTALL-file on github. (No link to this from the website! At least I couldn't find anything) I just want to remark, that under Optional dependencies: ... - for georeferencer - GSL = 1.8 the version number can't be correct, cause there is no such high version available. This might be no big problem for most people, but for a noob like me, this is causing hysteria and increasing blood pressure. I think it came into existence from an old version i found here http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Minimal-requirements-td4157264.html where it sais: - for georeferencer - GSL = ? (works with 1.8) In general, I would also like to remark, that it would be very nice to have kind of a wiki for build instructions for the different platforms and versions and the different related resources like GDAL, spatialite etc. as well, cause I have to build GDAL myself for MrSID and FGDB-support (and without that, QGIS on Linux is quite useless for me, at least not for productive work). Finding all these infos (and sometimes not very congruentt ones) in different blogs and forums is ridiculously time-consuming. And when I already invest so much time in fiddling out this, I would like to have the other parts state of the art as well, but there is unfortunately no common place for instructions on the related items. Cheers Bernd -- Bernd Vogelgesang Siedlerstraße 2 91083 Baiersdorf/Igelsdorf Tel: 09133-825374 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] INSTALL.txt
Hi Bernd, (...) Finding all these infos (and sometimes not very congruentt ones) in different blogs and forums is ridiculously time-consuming. (...) Several people invested time [1] to create QGIS. You are welcome to be part of the project and improve build description. After that read your e-mail once again... Robert Szczepanek [1] http://www.ohloh.net/p/3663/estimated_cost W dniu 22.02.2014 21:32, Bernd Vogelgesang napisał(a): HI, In my struggle to manage to build QGIS from source, I finally found the INSTALL-file on github. (No link to this from the website! At least I couldn't find anything) I just want to remark, that under Optional dependencies: ... - for georeferencer - GSL = 1.8 the version number can't be correct, cause there is no such high version available. This might be no big problem for most people, but for a noob like me, this is causing hysteria and increasing blood pressure. I think it came into existence from an old version i found here http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Minimal-requirements-td4157264.html where it sais: - for georeferencer - GSL = ? (works with 1.8) In general, I would also like to remark, that it would be very nice to have kind of a wiki for build instructions for the different platforms and versions and the different related resources like GDAL, spatialite etc. as well, cause I have to build GDAL myself for MrSID and FGDB-support (and without that, QGIS on Linux is quite useless for me, at least not for productive work). Finding all these infos (and sometimes not very congruentt ones) in different blogs and forums is ridiculously time-consuming. And when I already invest so much time in fiddling out this, I would like to have the other parts state of the art as well, but there is unfortunately no common place for instructions on the related items. Cheers Bernd ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] INSTALL.txt
The web resources are always in flux to some extent, with 2.0 the data has actually been shifting from the wiki into the main docs and other appropriate places. As Robert points out, more volunteers are always welcome to help clean things up. I think in the move to the new site things got easier for new users but stuff for devs and people compiling got a little lost for those who don't already know where to look. An install.txt in the root of a source tree is actually standard practice in the industry. The download page hints (but agreed should link) if you click on Sources : Refer to the INSTALL guide on how to compile QGIS from source for the different platforms. If you're on Ubuntu or Debian the easiest way to get a build going is to do: sudo apt-get build-dep qgis This automatically pulls in all the required libraries for compiling. As for FGDB, that is absolutely possible on linux but not simple one click install. This thread has good info http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/How-to-open-ESRI-geodatabase-in-QGIS-1-8-and-Gdal-1-9-on-Ubuntu-tp5014447p5015419.html Thanks for reaching out with questions, don't hesitate when you get stuck. We also have an IRC channel if you want to try to get more immediate help especially when dealing with compiling. https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/support.html Note: there's also a #gdal channel for more help on FGDB Enjoy, Alex On 02/22/2014 07:12 PM, Robert Szczepanek wrote: Hi Bernd, (...) Finding all these infos (and sometimes not very congruentt ones) in different blogs and forums is ridiculously time-consuming. (...) Several people invested time [1] to create QGIS. You are welcome to be part of the project and improve build description. After that read your e-mail once again... Robert Szczepanek [1] http://www.ohloh.net/p/3663/estimated_cost W dniu 22.02.2014 21:32, Bernd Vogelgesang napisał(a): HI, In my struggle to manage to build QGIS from source, I finally found the INSTALL-file on github. (No link to this from the website! At least I couldn't find anything) I just want to remark, that under Optional dependencies: ... - for georeferencer - GSL = 1.8 the version number can't be correct, cause there is no such high version available. This might be no big problem for most people, but for a noob like me, this is causing hysteria and increasing blood pressure. I think it came into existence from an old version i found here http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Minimal-requirements-td4157264.html where it sais: - for georeferencer - GSL = ? (works with 1.8) In general, I would also like to remark, that it would be very nice to have kind of a wiki for build instructions for the different platforms and versions and the different related resources like GDAL, spatialite etc. as well, cause I have to build GDAL myself for MrSID and FGDB-support (and without that, QGIS on Linux is quite useless for me, at least not for productive work). Finding all these infos (and sometimes not very congruentt ones) in different blogs and forums is ridiculously time-consuming. And when I already invest so much time in fiddling out this, I would like to have the other parts state of the art as well, but there is unfortunately no common place for instructions on the related items. Cheers Bernd ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
