Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Nightly builds (or weekly snapshots for that matter) are very different from a publicized, pre-release preview build. With a prepared pre-release preview, users are at least expecting that basic functioning will work, that's something the nightly builds simply can't guarantee by the nature of

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
-but you get an higher chance of getting a broader number of people (that interacts with QGIS in different ways) to test out your product before it's released. +but you get an higher chance of getting a broader number of people (that interacts with QGIS in different ways) to test out your product

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Mathieu, On Mon, 24. Feb 2014 at 15:42:19 +0700, Mathieu Pellerin wrote: Nightly builds (or weekly snapshots for that matter) are very different from a publicized, pre-release preview build. With a prepared pre-release preview, users are at least expecting that basic functioning will work,

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Jonathan Moules
Why not? We're talking about a feature freezed period!? The nightly build is a snapshot what what will get release. Where do you see a difference? I think it's a perception thing. Nightly build in my mind always means bleeding edge may or may not work, use at own risk. I'm aware that

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Filipe Dias
How about making a formal announcement (mailing list, website, wiki etc) telling the users that QGIS version 2.X is in feature freeze and therefore is sufficiently stable to be tested by end users? This may increase the number of testers. As an end user that uses QGIS for production, this is the

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Jonathan Moules
Slightly deviating from the topic, but I'm quite fond of the GeoServer release process; they're revamping a little to offer better Long Term Support: http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/GSIP+107+-+Extended+Release+Schedule I feel a similar system would solve most of QGIS' release problems: - Bugfix

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Jonathan, On Mon, 24. Feb 2014 at 14:17:44 +, Jonathan Moules wrote: Why not? We're talking about a feature freezed period!? The nightly build is a snapshot what what will get release. Where do you see a difference? I think it's a perception thing. Nightly build in my mind always

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Ivan Mincik
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, seriously, I should probably emphasize in the freeze announcement, that it's mainly the users that are supposed to test the daily prereleases and weekly release candidates and report problems, while the developers work on reproducing and

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-24 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi, On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Filipe Dias filipesd...@gmail.com wrote: How about making a formal announcement (mailing list, website, wiki etc) telling the users that QGIS version 2.X is in feature freeze and therefore is sufficiently stable to be tested by end users? This may

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-23 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Larry, On Sat, 22. Feb 2014 at 14:33:11 -0700, Larry Shaffer wrote: How about for a set period of time, only commits that devs think can readily be ported to the 2.2.0 branch are 'allowed' on master? With any code changes, which would make porting changes/fixes over to the 2.2.0 branch

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-23 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 08:36:07AM +1100, Nyall Dawson wrote: On 23/02/2014 7:33 am, Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com wrote: How about for a set period of time, only commits that devs think can readily be ported to the 2.2.0 branch are 'allowed' on master? With any code changes, which

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-23 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
That reminds me of someone mentioning in a ticket of a 2.0 issue resolved against qgis 2.1 that he'd wait (angrily?) having fix backported into a (mythical) 2.0.x update rather than him moving to 2.2 and having to deal with possible regressions. I was thinking at the time that this sounds to me

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-23 Thread Denis Rouzaud
On 24. 02. 14 03:17, Mathieu Pellerin wrote: QGIS could adopt: 4, or 2, weeks before the release date, {beta,release candidate,tech preview,etc.} builds (from master, no need to branch out really) are pushed out to osgeo4w linux and quite loudly advertised (blog posts, social media, etc.) to

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-23 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Just to be clear, I don't think QGIS can handle more than one pre release. The list of terminologies was just there as a pick one name you like :) On 24 Feb 2014 13:22, Denis Rouzaud denis.rouz...@gmail.com wrote: On 24. 02. 14 03:17, Mathieu Pellerin wrote: QGIS could adopt: 4, or 2, weeks

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-23 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Mathieu, On Mon, 24. Feb 2014 at 09:17:11 +0700, Mathieu Pellerin wrote: That reminds me of someone mentioning in a ticket of a 2.0 issue resolved against qgis 2.1 that he'd wait (angrily?) having fix backported into a (mythical) 2.0.x update rather than him moving to 2.2 and having to deal

[Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-22 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi, I have a suggestion with regards to addressing bugs and supporting the concept of a 2.2.1 bug-fix release for stability's sake. How about for a set period of time, only commits that devs think can readily be ported to the 2.2.0 branch are 'allowed' on master? With any code changes, which

Re: [Qgis-developer] Post-release period of portable commits only?

2014-02-22 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 23/02/2014 7:33 am, Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com wrote: How about for a set period of time, only commits that devs think can readily be ported to the 2.2.0 branch are 'allowed' on master? With any code changes, which would make porting changes/fixes over to the 2.2.0 branch difficult,