[Qgis-user] FOSS4G 2017 - Call for Workshops

2017-01-24 Thread Randal Hale
For those of you who don’t yet know, FOSS4G 2017 will be held in Boston, 
MA on August 14-19. Please visit the website for conference details : 
http://2017.foss4g.org/ . As a member of the workshop committee - I 
encourage you to submit a workshop.


*Workshop info:*

 * Workshops will be held on August 14th and 15th at the Harvard Center
   for Geographic Analysis (CGA) in Cambridge, MA
 * Workshops are scheduled in 4 hour blocks, but a limited number of
   full-day (8 hr.) workshops will be considered
 * Compensation for a 4 hour workshop is $650, which is the cost of an
   Early-Bird registration for FOSS4G
 * Workshops will be BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) for attendees. FOSS4G
   will provide bootable OSGeo Live USB sticks and remote desktop
   access to cloud-hosted machines.
 * In the past, workshops have included topics related to the
   following, but the committee is open to other topics that are
   relevant to the FOSS4G community and will generate interest :
 o QGIS/PyQGIS
 o PostGIS
 o GeoServer
 o MapServer
 o Web Mapping
 o GRASS GIS
 o GDAL/OGR CLI Tools
 o pgRouting
 o Using OSGeoLive
 o GeoPython
 o GvSig
 o Aerial Mapping and Point Clouds/LIDAR/Photogrammetry
 o Using open source GIS in a cloud environment


*Important Dates:
*Call for Workshops Closed: March 13, 2017
Workshop Selections Announced: March 20, 2017
Detailed Workshop Program: April 3, 2017
Workshops Take Place at Harvard: August 14/15, 2017

Here is a link to the workshop page for the submission form and further 
details: http://2017.foss4g.org/workshops/


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[Qgis-user] Old debs

2017-01-24 Thread Campbell, Robert A
Hi, I'm working in Debian 7 ("Wheezy") with software that depends on QGIS 2.10. 
This software was created at a time when qgis.org was hosting 2.10 debs for 
Wheezy. Now, we need to replicate these installations. Does anyone know of any 
way I could get access to those QGIS 2.10 debs for Wheezy? Thank you for any 
help or advice!


Rob Campbell

Research Computing

Purdue University

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Re: [Qgis-user] Old debs

2017-01-24 Thread Samy Mezani

Hi,

Le 24/01/2017 à 22:28, Campbell, Robert A a écrit :

Hi, I'm working in Debian 7 ("Wheezy") with software that depends on
QGIS 2.10. This software was created at a time when qgis.org was hosting
2.10 debs for Wheezy. Now, we need to replicate these installations.
Does anyone know of any way I could get access to those QGIS 2.10 debs
for Wheezy? Thank you for any help or advice!


You should try the debian package 'dpkg-repack' which create a .deb file 
out of a debian package that has already been installed.


http://joeyh.name/code/dpkg-repack/

Samy
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[Qgis-user] Multiple Map Windows

2017-01-24 Thread Grant Boxer
Is it possible to have more than one map window open at the one time? In
MapInfo it is useful having two map windows with different contents being
able to be displayed in the one map composer (layout) window. This is really
handy when producing graphics for reports etc. Can QGIS do this?

 

Grant Boxer

Perth, Western Australia

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Re: [Qgis-user] Multiple Map Windows

2017-01-24 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 25 January 2017 at 08:27, Grant Boxer  wrote:
> Is it possible to have more than one map window open at the one time? In
> MapInfo it is useful having two map windows with different contents being
> able to be displayed in the one map composer (layout) window. This is really
> handy when producing graphics for reports etc. Can QGIS do this?

Not yet, but should be possible in QGIS 3.0

Nyall

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>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Multiple Map Windows

2017-01-24 Thread Nathan Woodrow
To be clear though you can have composer maps with different layers using
the Layer Presets feature.

[image: Inline image 1]

- Nathan

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Nyall Dawson 
wrote:

> On 25 January 2017 at 08:27, Grant Boxer  wrote:
> > Is it possible to have more than one map window open at the one time? In
> > MapInfo it is useful having two map windows with different contents being
> > able to be displayed in the one map composer (layout) window. This is
> really
> > handy when producing graphics for reports etc. Can QGIS do this?
>
> Not yet, but should be possible in QGIS 3.0
>
> Nyall
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Grant Boxer
> >
> > Perth, Western Australia
> >
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Re: [Qgis-user] My first weekend with QGIS (documentation)

2017-01-24 Thread John Hawkinson
(I'm kind of regretting not having numbered my items instead of bulleting
them. There was some rationale, something about not wanting to seem imposing
and also that I wanted to maybe sort them before sending the email...didn't
quite work out that way...)

Thanks, by the way, everyone for being so welcoming. I'll have more to
say on harder stuff later (esp. Nathan's super-detailed reply!), but 
there's some low-hanging fruit here. Replies inline below.


Harrissou DelazJ  wrote on Sat, 21 Jan 2017
at 20:26:09 +0100 in 
:

> Doc writing instructions are available at
> http://docs.qgis.org/2.14/en/docs/documentation_guidelines/ and the
> team is present if needed.

Thanks. Here, have a (super-boring) pull request to correct
minor items in the documentation-writing documentation.
"It's turtles all the way down."

> > * Where the are the QGIS 2.18.3 release notes? They are not easy to
> >   find from the website. It's easy to get to
> >   http://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/visualchangelog218/index.html
> >   but that doesn't cover the "dot" releases. Other links take you to
> >   http://hub.qgis.org/projects/quantum-gis
> >   which is not so helpful, at least not directly.

> Weird, whick links sent you there?

Good question...So, the banner at the bottom of the Recent Projects
sends me to http://download.qgis.org (but it's not a clickable link, boo),
aka http://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/download.html
which doesn't really have much of a reference to changelogs.
The "All Downloads" link does have a link to Visaual Changelogs,
though I think that's not how I got there.

About QGIS > About > QGIS Code Branch
  links to https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/tree/release-2_18 which is not
  helpful for new users...that wasn't it.

About QGIS > About QGIS Home Page
  goes to http://qgis.org/en/site/ which prominently features 2.18 and a link
  to the Visual Changelog. That's definitely one place.

About QGIS > What's New
  doesn't talk about "dot" releases, but does talk about 2.18.

Help > Check QGIS VErsion
  has 
  "Details on changes can be found by examining the Activity in
  Redmine at http://hub.qgis.org/projects/quantum-gis";
  That's probably the path I used.

And the visual changelog link on the main QGIS webpage, either via
the About QGIS link or just by going to the web page.



> * CRS on first reference. On p.32 is the first time it talks about
...
> > Agreed again (should be easily fixed) but keep in mind that documentation
> is an iterative work, not really linear and we unfortunately do not keep
> eyes on first appearance of expressions. Maybe this is technically
> feasible.

Well, periodically somebody should sit down and read the manual
from cover-to-cover to make sure it "works." Definitely not a high-priority.

> > * Section 8.5 Blending modes doesn't put "soft light" in boldface like
> >   the others.
> >
> > Not sure I understand what you mean. Looks the same afaics.

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/master/source/docs/user_manual/introduction/general_tools.rst

* Soft light: This is very similar to overlay, but instead of using
  multiply/screen it uses color burn/dodge. This is supposed to
  emulate shining a soft light on to an image.

* **Hard light**: Hard light is also very similar to the overlay
  mode. It's supposed to emulate projecting a very intense light onto
  an image.

Note the lack of ** around "Soft light."


> > * Through the manual, settings are accessed via "Settings". But under
> >   OS X, you get there with QGIS > Preferences...
> >
> > I think it's also accessible through Settings menu under os x (no mac
> available right now to check).

Yes, you're right. One thing in two places is inherently a little confusing,
so maybe there's not much to do about it.

> > * Ctrl-$foo under Win/Linux is Cmd-$foo under OS X. The manual should
> >   acknowledge this somewhere, though maybe not everytime. (But maybe
> >   it should everytime? Because Macs do have Ctrl keys and they are
> >   available but do something slightly different. So...)
> >
> right! This should become a reflex for writers to not confuse mac users.

Well, it's definitely true that the manual becomes kind of ugly
when if it says "Ctrl/Cmd" everywhere. Another choice is to make
platform-specific builds of the manual. I dunno...

> > * Sec. 4.1, View Data, talks about WMS and WFS without expanding or
> >   explaining them.
> >
> > . Maybe this is an unfair criticism because it does the same for OGR
> >   and ESRI, as well as SDTS and JPEG. But none of those bother me?
> >
> > A glossary?

Well, maybe. But in practice few people are going to read a glossary,
and they can Google if they really want to know. The value of having it
on the first reference is to make it accessible with low-effort.
But it may not be worth the cost, and as I said, I'm not sure why
it botehrs me for WMS and WFS but not OGR and ESRI. Though the obvious
answer is "I know what OGR and ESRI are!"

> > * Figure 12.26: In the 2 ima

Re: [Qgis-user] My first weekend with QGIS (UI)

2017-01-24 Thread John Hawkinson
By the way, can anyone here send me a mantra for osgeo registration?
(No reply following https://www.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/ldap_create_user.py)

Nyall Dawson  wrote on Tue, 24 Jan 2017
at 16:39:49 +1000 in 
:

> First off - thanks for taking the time to do this. This kind of
> feedback is invaluable to us as a project, and infinitely more useful
> than a "QGIS is frustrating!1!!" twitter post.

You're welcome! I definitely want to contribute to the project and make
it better. Only replying to the spots where you had questions.

> >   I guess that means I'd like a tooltip delay preference in QGIS (in
> >   the development branch with Qt 5 support), or I suppose a general
> >   mechanism in Qt for overriding the tooltip delay.
> 
> I'm -1 to adding options in the GUI for settings like this. It just
> makes the options dialog huge and scary. If it's an issue I'd say we
> should pick a good shorter delay value and hardcode it for the OSX
> build.

I'm not an expert on tooltips (maybe I can find some academic papers),
but my sense is that there is a fundamental conflict that is
irreconcilable: the more complicated an application, the more having
a faster tooltip is important for letting new user learn it. But the
more experienced you are in an application, the more annoying tooltips
are, and the slower you want them to be. So I suspect that getting
the tooltips fast enough to be good for new users is going to make
them atoo annoying for experienced users.

But when I get some time to sit down with the QGIS 3 / Qt 5 build (Qt
4 didn't support adjustable tooltips), I'll try to evaluate this. 

I do think worrying about making the Options dialog big and scary is
kind of unfair. QGIS already has a *lot* of options, one more isn't
going to break the bank. And if this was a real concern, you could
throw it under Advanced.

Although that's a little counterproductive since the entire point of
the adjustment would be to cater to new users. Although I suppose
the default could be new-user-speed and only advanced users could
slwo it down.

> > * The "Step up" and "Step down" functions (e.g. up/down arrows for
> >   adjusting the point size of fonts or width of strokes/outlines,
> >   etc.) are sometimes scaled inadequately.
> 
> This annoys me too - can you let me know specifics and I'll address
> them. I try to fix each one as I find it, but often forget...

I think Nathan misunderstood me, since he referenced widget padding.
I didn't mean the visual appearance (scale) of the arrow widgets,
I meant the default quantum of adjustment.

Specifically if I have text in as "10 point" and I switch the
adjustment to map units, "10 map unit" text is unreadably small.
In this particular test, which is the alaska.shp from the sample
dataset, it shows at scale 1:17,433,906 and magnification 100%.
To get the text readable, it has to be 10,000 map units. 

I would have to click the up arrow tens of thousands of time to get to
a point where it is visible. I'm not sure what the right solution here
ismaybe the arrows for map units should go at logarithmic scales?

Also, is something wrong with this shapefile that it shows up at
such a huge scale factor? It's much larger (17 million) than the biggest
scale factor in the scale factor dropdown (1 million).

> > * The default font is Helvetica, which is fine, but for some reason
> >   QGIS won't show me any subfaces of Helvetica by default. If I switch
> >   to another font and then switch back to Helvetica, then I am given
> >   the proper face choices (Light, Regular, Oblique, &c.). Something's
> >   wrong with the font selection defaults (perhaps in Qt?)
> 
> I can't reproduce this - it may be an OSX specific issue. Can you
> outline exact steps to reproduce?

It probably is OSX-specific.
Trivial to reproduce, and seems to happen in ~all cases, but here's one:
New Project; Add Vector Layer: airports.shp; Layer styling: Labelling;
Show labels for this layer; Label with NAME.

The font shown is Helvatica, but the face dropdown is empty.  Switch
to Helvetica Neue, the dropdown is populated.  Switch back to
Helvetica, it's populated (and the defauilt is Light Oblique).

> > . Cmd-shift-V does something very different in the Print Composer --
> >   Paste in Place instead of Add Vector Layer. I can kind of see why
> >   this might be happening, but the idea of having totally different
> >   keybindings in differnt windows of the same application seems pretty
> >   novel. And novelty in UI design results in confusion more often than
> >   not.
> 
> In this case I'd rather leave the composer shortcut and change the
> main app shortcut. Ctrl+Shift+V is a common shortcut used across many
> apps for paste in place.

I agree it's common for Paste-In-Place. But I also suspect more QGIS
users use it for Add Vector Layer. Also this is not a huge deal -- I think
it is an example of novelty and that novelty breeds confusion, but I don't
know that this particular case is actually all that confusing. *shrug

Re: [Qgis-user] My first weekend with QGIS (UI)

2017-01-24 Thread John Hawkinson
Nathan Woodrow  wrote on Sat, 21 Jan 2017
at 20:20:20 +1000 in 
:

> You are right that this is best sent to the dev list as that is where we
> all hang out, the user email is mainly for end users who may or may not be
> involved in the development.  I will forward this to the dev list for more
> feedback for you.

Looks like it never made it there. I asusme it's OK to keep going on 
qgis-user.

> > * There is no no keyboard shortcut to switch between panels, at least
> >   when the panels are docked.
> 
> I have thought about this before.  It's easy to do just need to work
> out a good workflow for the shortcuts that makes sense. I have
> thought about Ctrl+1,2,3,4 etc but unsure

This is somewhat of an architecture-specific issue.  OSX defines a
shortcut for cycling windows within an application.  Cmd-` to cycle
forward through the ring buffer (ordered by most recently used), and
Cmd-~ (aka Cmd-Shift-`) to cycle in the reverse direction.
Windows doesn't have this, so would have to come up with its own
shortcut but the answer is easy for OSX.

http://superuser.com/questions/435602/shortcut-in-windows-7-to-switch-between-same-applications-windows-like-cmd
suggests that maybe Ctrl-TAB is the right choice under Windows.
Not really sure.

And of course, since Cmd-` half-works in OSX, there's clearly some
kind of Qt integration or window parenting issue.

> > * The "Step up" and "Step down" functions (e.g. up/down arrows for
> >   adjusting the point size of fonts or width of strokes/outlines,
> >   etc.) are sometimes scaled inadequately.
> 
> See comment about widget padding on OS X.

See my comment to Nyall -- I didnt' mean the appearance of the widgets,
I meant the magnitude of the default stepsize functionally -- and upon
review, I wonder if it should perahps be a logarithmic rather than
linear, at least for map units.

Although...I probably need a better grounding in what map units actually
are. I assume they are relative to the scale that a map is
rendered at in the composer, although I've seen funny shifts in size
between the composer and the map window which leads to confusion. Not
sure about this...Maybe I should...read the ArcGIS documentation on
map units, since there doesn't seem to be much for QGIS...

> > * View > Toogle Full Screen...does not really do what I want. I would
> >   like a way to make the Map Window consume all of QGIS's screen real
> >   estate, hiding any currently floating panels and taking the space of
> >   any docked panels. In the Adobe Creative Suite programs, TAB does
> >   this. Instead, in QGIS, Toggle FS seems to just allow QGIS to use
> >   the 24px normally occupied by my menu bar. Sure, sometimes that
> >   might be handy to do, but not as much as I'd like to be able to see
> >   the full map without all the panels.
> 
> Shift+Tab in QGIS 3.0 will hide all dock panels and give the map all the
> screen space.

That sounds like it's exactly the funcionality I'm seeking, yes.
I'm curious what Tab is bound to and why Shift-Tab is used (but
I should just try out 3.0 and find out!).

> I quite like the idea that Visual Studio has with Full-Screen and
> Presentation Mode which do different things
> Maybe we can use that style of full screening.

Well, I'm not entirely sure what it would mean for QGIS?
Hiding panels is one thing, Hiding the Menu bar and Dock (OSX)...seems
a lot less useful. I guess it's helpful when presenting on a video
projector where you want everything as big as possible and screen rela estate
is precious...anyhow, not complaining, jsut unsure.

> > * Apparently double-clicking on a layer can be configured to do
> >   different things (Open Layer Properties, Open attribute table; Open
> >   Layer Styling Dock)? This is a bit strange. It seems that it should
> >   do one thing only, and there shouldn't be a preference to change it
> >   so radically.
> 

> They are options mainly because people wanted them to do different
> things,

I think the UI desire here is really strong. People be able to access
these 3 different functinos via clicking, because clicking is the 
primary way to access layer selection.  I really think access via
click-with-modifier is important, because click-then-keypress
is much slower and less convenient than cmd/ctrl-click or
option/alt-click. 

> however part of the move into 3.0 is to remove options like this
> because it confusing for training, and IMO we just need to do one
> thing and not have options for every moving part.

I agree its not great to have options that change UI behavior like this.

> Functions keys are using a far bit in other platforms, I'm
> generaelly not a fan of Apple moving people way from them for this
> reason however it's still a valid point and you should still have
> good shortcuts on each platform.

Fan or not, it's definitely a reality (and then there are laptops with
a touchbar instead of function keys...). And even under Windows,
function keys are hard for good typists to hit without stopping to

Re: [Qgis-user] Multiple Map Windows

2017-01-24 Thread Saber Razmjooei
The way I like to think of Preset is like Virtual Canvas: users can have
multiple combination of layers visibility and styles. Multi-style also
works with Presets (i.e. you can have Style 1 with Layer A in Preset 1 and
Style 2 with Layer A in Preset 2). So, in essence, you can replicate
Mapinfo's multiple window feature using Preset.

On 24 January 2017 at 23:32, Nathan Woodrow  wrote:

> To be clear though you can have composer maps with different layers using
> the Layer Presets feature.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> - Nathan
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Nyall Dawson 
> wrote:
>
>> On 25 January 2017 at 08:27, Grant Boxer  wrote:
>> > Is it possible to have more than one map window open at the one time? In
>> > MapInfo it is useful having two map windows with different contents
>> being
>> > able to be displayed in the one map composer (layout) window. This is
>> really
>> > handy when producing graphics for reports etc. Can QGIS do this?
>>
>> Not yet, but should be possible in QGIS 3.0
>>
>> Nyall
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Grant Boxer
>> >
>> > Perth, Western Australia
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Qgis-user] Multiple Map Windows

2017-01-24 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 25/01/2017 08:40, Saber Razmjooei ha scritto:
> The way I like to think of Preset is like Virtual Canvas: users can have
> multiple combination of layers visibility and styles. Multi-style also
> works with Presets (i.e. you can have Style 1 with Layer A in Preset 1
> and Style 2 with Layer A in Preset 2). So, in essence, you can replicate
> Mapinfo's multiple window feature using Preset.

Have a look also to:
http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/DockableMirrorMap/
All the best.

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