Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS SWOT at community meeting Madeira

[Vincent Picavet (ml)]

Hi all,

This is the current state of the SWOT :
https://share.oslandia.net/public/679ef4/dl/20180222_123736.jpg

Do not hesitate to send notes to add.

Nyall, too bad you will not be available to share, timezones are hard to
conciliate. We will publish the recording anyway so that you can still
react afterwards.

I do think this is an exercise we could make at every Community meeting.
Seeing how things change over time would be interesting.

Vincent


On 22/02/2018 01:10, Nyall Dawson wrote:
> On 22 February 2018 at 04:27, Vincent Picavet (ml)
> <vincent...@oslandia.com> wrote:
> 
>> We will have a meeting at the community meeting on Friday 16:00 local
>> time, to discuss about the items gathered, try to summarize some ideas
>> and then write a report.
> 
> I'd have loved to take part, but this time is totally incompatible
> with my timezone! (UTC+11).
> 
> Looking forward to the recording!
> 
> Nyall
> 

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[Qgis-user] QGIS SWOT at community meeting Madeira

[Vincent Picavet (ml)]

Hi all,

QGIS community meeting has started in Madeira !
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/wiki/DeveloperMeetingMadeira2018

As part of the event, we have some meetings scheduled (see link above).
I initially wanted to have a meeting on how to improve release
management, the way we deal with user expectations and associated
topics, but I think it is the opportunity to have a more general
brainstorming session.

I propose to do a collaborative SWOT analysis of the project, to see if
we can see some emerging patterns needing actions from the community.

SWOT [1] is simple yet interesting : four areas in a 2x2 matrix, where
you can write the items you think are important in terms of :
- Strengths
- Weaknesses
- Opportunities
- Threats

You have to consider what is helpful to achieve the objective of the
project, what is harmful, if it has an internal origin, or external origin.

We have a big paper hanging in the meeting's room. Everyone is invited
to add post-its to it with their items in the right square. Feel free to
add your own, change or modify them later on, discuss items with
others.. It is a basis for reflection and discussion.

If you are remote, do not hesitate to drop a virtual post-it note and we
will put it on the paper. You can use IRC [2], the gitter channel [3],
or answer to this email.

Be concise, but do not censor yourself ! All voices are good to hear,
raise yours !

We will have a meeting at the community meeting on Friday 16:00 local
time, to discuss about the items gathered, try to summarize some ideas
and then write a report.

Do not hesitate to ask any question regarding this exercise, and let's
get started :-)

Vincent

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWOT_analysis
[2] #qgis on freenode ( http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#qgis )
[3] https://gitter.im/qgis/hackfest
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Re: [Qgis-user] [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Meeting #20 : 21-25 February 2018, Madeira

[Vincent Picavet (ml)]

Hello,

Thanks for organizing this community meeting !

I would like to stress a few points.

First, would it be possible to publish the details of the program as
soon as possible ? 21th to 25th of February means 5 full days. It is not
possible for most developers to attend this whole period. In order to be
able to anticipate for plane tickets and all, having the program would
allow to focus on the most adapted days for each of us.

Second, I think we should be more careful on the dates for the community
meetings. It is the third time in a row that QGIS developer meeting
takes place during school holidays ( in France and other European
countries at least).
I know that finding dates for such a (big) event is very difficult, and
depends on a lot of external parameters. Holidays especially can be
different for different countries. But a quick check may be useful to
allow for more people to come without them having to cancel holidays
with their families.
Note that this was particularly true for the event organized on May 1st,
which is a mandatory day off in most countries in the world.

In the same spirit, please have the codesprint where you want developers
to attend on week days and not during the weekend. QGIS developers are
paid professionals, and working on weekend is an exception which should
be reduced to the minimum.

This points are probably worth discussing, and I hope we will have this
opportunity in Madeira.

Greetings,
Vincent





On 29/10/2017 23:08, Tim Sutton wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> We have a confirmed venue for the next QGIS get together - it is in
> Madeira from the 20-25 February 2018. If you plan on attending please
> head over to the wiki page and register your intention to be there:
> 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/wiki/DeveloperMeetingMadeira2018
> 
> Please also note that this time we are going to try to be a little more
> organised for helping newcomers, so I have added sections to the wiki
> page for ‘Mentor streams’ - I have nominally added 4 streams but if you
> would like to host more please add a new section to the wiki page. If
> you are interested in attending one of the streams, please add your name
> to the appropriate section.
> 
> Lene will no doubt provide you with more details (via the wiki)  as we
> get closer to the event as will Duarte and Sara (our local organisers in
> Madeira).
> 
> Another important thing to note is that the cost of attending will be
> higher than usual given the more removed location and that we do not
> have very cheap accommodation available. If you intend on requesting
> travel assistance for the event, please fill out our new form
>  as soon as possible. Also be
> aware that funds are limited so we may not be able to cover everyone’s
> costs or all costs completely - applications will be taken on merit with
> priority given to active contributors to the QGIS project.
> 
> Looking forward to seeing you all in Madeira!
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] [Qgis-developer] Discussion on the QGIS grant proposals

[Vincent Picavet (ml)]

Hello,

Thanks Andreas for raising this topic and clearing up facts and giving
your position.
I agree 100% with what you stated, and I do think this is something
which should be emphasized much more, if not even constrained.

Some more notes below.

On 22/09/2016 08:14, Neumann, Andreas wrote:
> [..] Now comes my personal position/opinion - note that this is not
> the official opinion of the QGIS.ORG board.
Same here

> I would personally welcome, if this round of the QGIS grants program 
> could focus on the QGIS 3.0 release.

This is indeed the main challenge for QGIS in the coming months.
Focusing on all aspects of making QGIS3 a real thing should be our top
priority when confronted to choices.

> I personally also think that the QGIS grants program, at least at
> the current time, should not pay for development of new features (at
> least not features visible in the GUI for the users). These features
> can be "relatively easy" funded by companies and government
> organizations out there. So our limited QGIS.ORG funds should be
> rather spent a) to community work or b) infrastructure work or c)
> development work in the core of QGIS, such as API modifications, code
> redesign - stuff that isn't really visible to the users, but
> essential for the success of the project.

From a developer's company point of view, I can only applause to this.
We have numerous demands for new features with paid contract, and the
global pace of feature development in QGIS is really fast. The very
large majority of them are funded by clients.
Meanwhile, all tasks like refactoring, code cleaning, bug triaging,
infrastructure and long term core development efforts are really
difficult to get funded. Public sector organization generally can't pay
for this due to public tender bid constraints, and generally end-users
do not realize that this kind of work is at the same time necessary and
time consuming.
In my opinion, the role of QGIS organization, hence the QGIS Grant
program, is to compensate for this disequilibrium.

> Documentation and PyQT documentation work is already budgeted in our 
> annual budget. The money for 2016 hasn't even been spent for both
> items. So I think we should first use the budgeted money for such
> work. I think that user and developer documentation should be an
> ongoing effort and should be supported every year, und budgeted every
> year as such. We can increase the documentation budget positions next
> year, should it be necessary. In reality, it was more a lack of
> people willing to do the work, rather than a lack of funding. So, I
> am happy to see some proposals around documentation and developer
> documentation - so it seems that we have some volunteers. I just
> suggest that we consider documentation work separately and do it
> anyway - regardless of the outcome of the voting on these items.

Documentation is crucial, and I am also fully in favor of having a
dedicated yearly budget to improve it. It should be stated in the QGIS
grant application call too.

> Several proposals have a very limited local focus, only useful to
> one single country, or a very limited subset of our users. I suggest
> that such proposals could best be financed by local user groups or
> interest groups. It can't be the purpose of the QGIS grants program
> to finance such projects.

+1 also

Since I have more or less the same priority list as Andreas, I will also
add a few comments below.

> ---
> 
> Here is my own personal list of priorities:

In my own priority order :

> ​11)​ Introduce everything necessary for QGIS3 to OSGeo4W
> 
> The majority of our users are on Windows (like it or not). This is
> the platform that matters most in our user base. The introduction of
> QGIS 3.0 means porting everything to newer libraries and means a lot
> of work. This should be one of our main priorities. Jürgen does it
> works silently in the background many days of work each year that go
> unnoticed. Jürgen usually only hears complaints if something fails -
> maybe not so much praise. Having Windows nightly builds and releases
> early on in the life cycle of QGIS 3.x means that it can be well
> tested. So - also really important to our project.

This is to me the most important item for QGIS3. Jef does a huge work,
something difficult and not the most passionating thing to work on. We
do need to have the platform stable and ready as soon as possible to
have feedback on QGIS 3 very early in the release process.

> ​18)​ QGIS 3 ticket handling and API refactoring
> 
> This is really time critical, and past discussions around QGIS 3.0
> has shown that there is a lack of project management work and
> coordination. I regard this proposal as very useful for the QGIS 3.0
> release.

Disclaimer : This proposal is by Oslandia
We proposed this item exactly because we observed that we were lacking
project management efforts, and especially regarding the QGIS3 release.
Having time 

Re: [Qgis-user] Profile section digitising

[Vincent Picavet (ml)]

Hi Lester,

On 12/09/2016 15:49, Lester Anderson wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone had advice or ideas about digitising profile
> data (say on a geological cross-section) that is referenced to a
> polyline in the project,

We at Oslandia are currently developping just that.
It will be available later this year or january 2017 at the latest.
Please be a bit patient.
Do not hesitate to ask if you want further information, Vincent Mora
will be able to answer your questions.

Regards,

Vincent
> 
> Thanks
> Lester
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS web client(s) status(es)

[Vincent Picavet (ml)]

Hello,


On 02/06/2016 00:38, Daniel Vicente Lühr Sierra wrote:
[...]
> Now, for the choice of a web-client I have found two alternatives which
> apparently work with QGIS server "in mind" (make use of its extensions,
> like print composer, etc.):
> * QGIS web client.
> * Lizmap web client.

There is also GIS.Lab which is mainly based on Django and Angular :
https://github.com/gislab-npo/gislab-web

Vincent

> 
> First, I would like to know if any or both projects are "officially"
> active (I understand by the timestamps in github that both are, but
> Lizmap looks more "lively"). Also, I read somewhere in the list about a
> QGIS webclient "Mk. II" being worked on.
> 
> Second, I would like to know if QGIS-webclient has support for WFS
> layers, or if it is easy to implement (OpenLayers should be able to
> handle WFS, but I don't know if that functionality has been implemented
> in the webclient).
> 
> Finaly, just by reading the documentation (I haven't tested Lizmap,
> yet), it looks like Lizmap has more features (and more modern) than QGIS
> web client, like a workaround to include the base layer in a printed
> copy of the map, WFS-"ready", links to media files, portable
> devices-friendly, embedded user access control, animation support for
> temporal vector layers, and others, at the expense of a slighltly more
> complex way of generating the up of and FTP server) project output
> (requires the use of a
> plugin and optionally the set).
> I would like to read opinions of anyone who has tried both clients and
> had a chance to compare them.
> 
> Any insight in these matters is highly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 

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Re: [Qgis-user] Project QGIS Web Client II (QWCII)

[Vincent Picavet (ml)]

Hi Ivan,

You rock, that sounds great !

Andreas, Ivan, did you check the initial requirements of QWCII wrt the
tool developped by GISLab to know how much it covers ?

Ivan, any demo somewhere or we'll have to wait until january ?

Vincent

On 08/12/2015 20:12, Ivan Mincik wrote:
> Dear Andreas,
> as you might know, GIS tools of GIS.lab [1][2] are based on QGIS Desktop and
> Server. Until now, we had our web interface [3] also built with GeoExt and 
> ExtJS.
> 
> Few months ago, we have decided to start with development of new generation of
> our web and mobile clients with modern technologies like OpenLayers 3, Django,
> Angular, Cordova ... - license GNU GPL 3 [4]. We have decided to develop it as
> separate project usable with or without GIS.lab.
> In January 2016, we would have some usable versions of web and mobile
> applications + QGIS plugin. Actually, our original plan was to offer it to the
> community as new generation of QGIS Web Client :).
> 
> Our goals are to use GIS.lab for education and we could easily adapt our plans
> according user's needs. It would be excellent if we would be able to join our
> forces. I would be very happy to discuss if with you !
> 
> 
> 1 - http://web.gislab.io/
> 2 - https://github.com/imincik/gis-lab/wiki/Quick-Start
> 3 - https://github.com/imincik/gis-lab/wiki/GIS-Project
> 4 - https://github.com/imincik/gislab-web-mobile/
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGis server project files stored in DB?

[Vincent Picavet (ml)]

Hi,

On 12/08/2015 16:03, Andrea Peri wrote:
 So you assume to have grants to write in the table where is stored the
 published informazioni.

On top of what has already been said, do not forget that the database
you save the project(s) configuration(s) to, can be a local Spatialite
database.
This gives a path towards having a project + data file format.

One of the difficulties I find would be the project format changes, as
well as storing plugin configuration items. We would have to design a
clever model for that, and to use versioning for the DB schema.

Project Schema version would maybe allow to use DB migration tools to
convert projects from one QGIS version to another, which could be
convenient.

Vincent

 This is not always true. The dba amministratore of a published
 environment not like to have some cowboy to write into its DBMS.
 
 Instead in low profile environment where there is 1 user only and it is
 webadmin , qgis user and perhaps also publisher. Not always it ha also 
 the capability to admin a DBMS like postgres.
 
 I feat that this option increasing complexity will reduce the
 installation of qgis-server.
 
 A.
 
 Il 12/ago/2015 03:29 PM, James Keener j...@jimkeener.com
 mailto:j...@jimkeener.com ha scritto:
 
 I was also looking for this a bit back and never found a solution. I
 ended up using other software, unfortunately.
 
 As for being less flexible, it is exactly as flexible as a qgs file
 would be, it's just that they could be manipulated and created more
 easily.  I would love to see the parts of the file broke out in the
 database and not just using a single text blob, though.
 
 Also, setting up identical-enough is fairly trivial, especially if
 most of the layers are already coming from a database, or known
 cache of shapefiles.
 
 Jim
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com
 mailto:aperi2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't guess is more flexible.
 Infact usually the teting environment is never exactly exals to the
 publish environmnet.
 
 A file allw to open and correct the paths from develop and
 publish environment.
 Also the svg symbols could be not exactly with the same path from
 develop and publish environment.
 
 So having a same project in a db is more complex becasue need to
 have
 two environment exactly the same.
 And this is not possible.
 .
 
 I guess the db storing for project could be more flexible only
 if the
 paths to the layers and relative paths of svg was not stored in the
 project file but instead in other files.
 
 My 2ct.
 
 A.
 
 
 2015-08-12 15:06 GMT+02:00 lars lingner gislars+l...@gmail.com
 mailto:gislars%2bl...@gmail.com:
  Hello,
 
  I'm looking for a solution for storing QGis project files
 (qgs) in a
  PostgreSQL database. Storing the files in a table isn't
 actually the
  problem, but getting it out and feeding it to QGis server.
 
  Did anyone had this need already? Would this be a good idea?
 
  In my use case the project files are generated, based on a default
  project file. Having the file in the DB would give more
 flexibility.
 
  Since saving the style in DB is already supported by QGis, I'm
 just
  curious of opinions of other users or developers.
 
  Thanks in advance for any feedback
 
  Lars
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